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861  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What Is A Social Justice Warrior (SJW)? on: June 17, 2015, 08:00:01 PM
Come on Beliathon, don't be like them, I thought you were better than that seriously Sad
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion

Please tell me you're not a self-righteous, self-contradictory, asshole that only speaks in stupid catch phrases designed for stupid people.
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On Privilege

Privilege is the “special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to one person or group of people”. Privilege is constructed and normalized by the established frameworks of society – narratives that have been developed based on the power struggles of history. This means that people are classified by those who encounter them, and since these viewers are so influenced by the constructed norm, the classification may be an unconscious act. In other words, even once you are aware of privilege, it is extremely difficult to eliminate it. Of course, many people are not aware of why they treat certain people certain ways, or may choose to ignore the realities of privilege.

Furthermore, for those receiving the privilege, it is difficult to be aware of this special treatment since in most cases they have been receiving privilege throughout their lives.  For those outside the privileged group(s), the distinction may be more obvious. Or, it may not be noticeable until the facts are presented, since many people don’t stop to analyze and question their treatment. Once you are aware of privilege, however, it is important to learn more, question, seek to erase it, and above all to not use privilege to your advantage. You might start doing this by asking, “are the ways in which I am being treated different from the ways other groups are treated”? Recognizing the ways in which one is privileged gives one the responsibility to lessen the effects of that privilege. You can find more information about ways to do this here. However, it is not enough for one individual to recognize this – systemic change is required in order to dismantle the established norms of oppression that define our lives from birth.

Some types of privilege include, but are not limited to, male privilege, white privilege, racial privilege in general, privilege based on attractiveness, privilege pertaining to physical abilities, privilege relating to mental health, privilege based on sexual orientation,  privilege based on gender, and privilege based on class and/or social status. Almost all people benefit from a privilege of some kind. Privilege is a crucial phenomenon in society, because privileged groups hold power and thus can create society’s framework of laws, values and institutions. These constructions will continue to benefit the group in power, with the needs of other, non-privileged (oppressed) groups seen as secondary. In order to gain rights, power and resources, those who do not identify with privileged groups must adhere to the framework created by the privileged. Some privileges, like knowing that your identity will not count against you in court, should extend to all people. However, some privileges, like the ability to ignore certain people based on their identity, “distort the humanity of the holders as well as the ignored groups” (Peggy McIntosh). Therefore we must differentiate between the privileges that we should work to universalize, and those which we must eliminate from the actions of all in order to dismantle privilege.

White Privilege

I am the bearer of white privilege. I know this, and I do my best to look out for, and avoid, the ways in which it helps me get ahead in life. It’s not easy, because education is what has helped me to come to recognize this privilege, and therefore my understanding hasn’t been with me for my whole life. But I do understand that in order to truly be an activist for equity, I have got to do my part in dismantling the systems that privilege certain people for no better reason than their membership in a social group. If you have no idea what I’m talking about, keep reading (especially the list below).

In her essay, White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack, Peggy McIntosh gives some interesting examples of the treatment that people with white skin can expect and take for granted, due to the privilege that they are granted by those that identify them as white. She states, ‘As a white person, I realized I had been taught about racism as something which puts others at a disadvantage, but had been taught not to see one of its corollary aspects, white privilege, which puts me at an advantage… After I realized the extent to which men work from a base of unacknowledged privilege, I understood that much of their oppressiveness was unconscious. Then I remembered the frequent charges from women of colour that white women whom they encounter are oppressive. I began to understand why we are justly seen as oppressive, even when we don’t see ourselves that way. I began to count the ways in which I enjoy unearned skin privilege and have been conditioned into oblivion about its existence… I was taught to see myself as an individual whose moral state depended on her individual moral will… whites are taught to think of their lives as morally neutral, normative and average, and also ideal, so that when we work to benefit others, this is seen as work which will allow “them” to be more like “us”.’

McIntosh goes on to compile the following list of some of the daily effects of white privilege in her life:

I can, if I wish, arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area that I can afford and in which I would want to live.
I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.
I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.
I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.
When I am told about our national heritage or about “civilization”, I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.
I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.
If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.
I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a supermarket and find the staple foods that fit with my cultural traditions, into a hairdresser’s shop and find someone who can deal with my hair.
Whether I use checks, credit cards, or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.
I can arrange to protect my children most of the time from people who might not like them.
I can swear, or dress in second-hand clothes or not answer letters without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty, or the illiteracy of my race.
I can speak in public to a powerful male group without putting my race on trial.
I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.
I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.
I can remain oblivious of the language and customs of persons of color, who constitute the worlds’ majority, without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.
I can criticize our government and talk about how much I fear its policies and behavior without being seen as a cultural outsider.
I can be sure that if I ask to talk to “the person in charge” I will be facing a person of my race.
If a traffic cop pulls me over, or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven’t been singled out because of my race.
I can easily buy posters, postcards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys, and children’s magazines featuring people of my race.
I can go home from most meetings or organizations I belong to feeling somewhat tied in rather than isolated, out of place, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance, or feared.
I can take a job with an affirmative action employer without having coworkers on the job suspect that I got it because of race.
I can choose public accommodations without fearing that people of my race cannot get in or will be mistreated in the places I have chosen.
I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help my race will not work against me.
If my day, week, or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether it has racial overtones.
I can chose blemish cover or bandages in “flesh” color that more or less matches my skin.
The first time I read this list, I found myself saying, “Oh yeah! That does happen” to every point. These are things which I, as a white person, take for granted — and I am definitely not alone on that.
McIntosh remarks that, white privilege is “an elusive and fugitive subject… some of these [points] are only what one would want for everyone in a just society, and others give license to be ignorant, oblivious, arrogant and destructive… some of the conditions I have described here work to systematically over-empower certain groups. Such privilege simply confers dominance because of one’s race or sex”. She also points out that “being of the main culture, I [can] also criticize it fairly freely”. The Angry Black Woman gives an amazing summary of white privilege, and of some of the most spot-on blog posts about the subject here.

Male Privilege

One reason for male privilege is that the prevailing force in most, if not all societies, is patriarchy, which gives the male figure power over women and children and positions males as the centre of social organization. This is a highly established system that has manifested throughout history. It’s seen in everything from royal succession, to voting rights, to religious and political power, and the list goes on and on.  Due to this patriarchial force, non-male groups are subject to a different set of experiences, although they often may not realize this. Women throughout the world must fight for rights that males receive automatically. These rights vary, from the right to drive to the right to equal pay to the right to walk down the street without being catcalled. The automatic privilege received by males, many of whom are not aware of the treatment they receive, can be known as male privilege. Male privilege also means that males have most of the control over female reproductive rights, whether enforcing this through religion, government policies, or lack of funding.
862  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What Is A Social Justice Warrior (SJW)? on: June 17, 2015, 07:56:05 PM
I don't even know if you are being satirical or not.
Not at all.

The "check your privileged thing" saying is only used by tumblrites and the FAR left liberals.
I'm a social anarchist / anarcho-socialist and anti-capitalist, so basically as far left as the spectrum goes.

No one needs to "check their privilege", we are all humans
Wrong. That argument didn't hold up when they tried to use it to defend slavery, it certainly doesn't hold up now.
863  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What Is A Social Justice Warrior (SJW)? on: June 17, 2015, 07:46:00 PM
Being white, american, male, christian, republican, what does that mean
It means boatloads of cringe-inducing unchecked privilege.
864  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What Is A Social Justice Warrior (SJW)? on: June 17, 2015, 07:42:54 PM
There's no such thing as social justice.
Social justice is the view that everyone deserves equal economic, political and social rights and opportunities. Social workers aim to open the doors of access and opportunity for everyone, particularly those in greatest need.

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Social_justice
865  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A Cop just told me, "Freedom doesn't exist anymore." on: June 17, 2015, 07:34:25 PM
So... you are comparing a sound ordinance enforced by the local authorities with businesses' hours of operation?
I'm not comparing them, I'm only pointing out that the rest of society doesn't alter itself to suit your personal convenience.

Some of you guys have a weird understanding of "rights".
Mine is pretty clear.
866  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What Is A Social Justice Warrior (SJW)? on: June 17, 2015, 07:28:39 PM
Ye olde race card, how original.
This is what not having any valid argument looks like. I didn't play any cards, I merely laid out some demographic facts you didn't like. Or rather, you were upset by the obvious implications of these demographics, such as the fact that libertarians are mostly a bunch of privileged conservative white 'murican dudes on the internet.
867  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What Is A Social Justice Warrior (SJW)? on: June 17, 2015, 06:55:16 PM
I'm a social justice warrior. We are not a monolith, there are many who fight for social justice with different views. Many SJWs do not agree that capitalism is a shit system (they're wrong; it is), but all are more or less "progressive".

I strongly disagree with this:
 
SJW’s do not view all humans as equal

What is a libertarian?

Basically a (94%)white american (68%)male (76%)christian with (80%)republican voting tendencies.


868  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A Cop just told me, "Freedom doesn't exist anymore." on: June 17, 2015, 06:53:50 PM
And others should have the freedom not to be woken up by some annoying ass buzzing first thing in the morning.

What if I work nights and sleep days? Do I get the same rights or am I a second class citizen because I have a different shift?
Also banks, post offices, and most other businesses will be closed when you're not working. You're a second class citizen because you have a nightshift. That's life.
869  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Welcome to the "Bitcoin Standard" on: June 17, 2015, 06:48:17 PM
Exactly! Never in history has it been so easy to send ANY amount of money in a reliable way.
Anyone ever tried to sell (real) gold?? You reckon the verification process is gonna be under 10 minutes?
gold and fiat will still be around for some time, but it is clear that bitcoins will take an ever increasing slice of the market.



It's coming...
870  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A Cop just told me, "Freedom doesn't exist anymore." on: June 17, 2015, 06:35:23 PM
And others should have the freedom not to be woken up by some annoying ass buzzing first thing in the morning.
This!
871  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Welcome to the "Bitcoin Standard" on: June 17, 2015, 06:33:01 PM
i dont think bitcoin can change gold because bitcoin doesnt have physical like gold
Not so long ago men said the same about oil. In the mid to late 1800s, oil was considered an expensive, dirty nuisance when mining for coal, which was valued highly at the time.

Quote from: Brandon Glier
...it’s important to keep in mind that it takes time for the true market use case of a commodity to be developed. Standard Oil was founded in 1870, a full decade after the commercialization of oil extraction in Titusville, PA. At the time, kerosene was the valuable component of refined petroleum as the primary fuel for lanterns and heat. Gasoline was an unwanted byproduct and thought to have such little value it was simply dumped into rivers. The mass market for gasoline-powered cars didn’t really take off until the 1920s. A barrel of oil didn’t cross the $100 threshold until 2008.

Like oil, Bitcoin can be refined and put to use in novel and yet-to-be imagined ways. Bitcoin’s scripting language can be used to create transactions with multiple components (a standard bitcoin transfer needs just two things: (1) proof of bitcoin ownership by the sender and (2) the address of the recipient). Contracts can be designed and enforced that can require additional approvals, reference external facts, or even be timed to complete in the future. Because these conditions can be built directly into the Bitcoin protocol, this provides an interesting alternative to relying on (and paying!) banks, lawyers or other institutions regularly entrusted to help craft, facilitate and enforce transactions between private parties.

(...)

Why does it matter?

Businesses built around supporting transactions are increasingly competing with protocols and algorithms that can do the job more quickly, securely, reliably and without requirement of profit. By commoditizing transactions, Bitcoin offers this previously ‘expensive’ service to entrepreneurs without the risk of building and maintaining this capability themselves. For the first time in Internet history, settling transactions between multiple parties can be dictated and applied directly through open-source software and not through (largely) for-profit 3rd party institutions...

Read more about early oil history and how it relates to bitcoin here.
872  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Imagine in 1990's that all emails should have a paid postage stamp... on: June 17, 2015, 06:24:51 PM
I wonder was satoshi thinks about the impending regulation hell that's coming.
Over the course of the past six years satoshi's net worth in bitcoin went from $0 in value to $300 million+, and he/she/they still haven't dumped a penny of it. So I'd say Satoshi's reaction is probably the same as mine: smug indifference.
873  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Imagine in 1990's that all emails should have a paid postage stamp... on: June 17, 2015, 03:35:22 PM

If BitLicense was around in the 1990's...
Imagine if the government had mandated in the 1990's that all emails must purchase a postage stamp before being sent, and that your real physical address and name had to be used on every email. It could've been claimed to be intended to "prevent crime" and "provide accountability" but in reality it would've severely crippled an amazing new form of communication. That is what BitLicense is doing to Bitcoin in the realm of money.

On reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3a3p80/if_bitlicense_was_around_in_the_1990s/

Retweet: https://twitter.com/bitpump/status/611093727952666624
This is brilliant and dead on. Kudos bitpump. Result would've been people breaking the law until it became a joke and was taken off the books, sort of like what's happening with cannabis now.
874  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, the Religion?! on: June 17, 2015, 03:29:01 PM
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I argue that Cryptocurrencies function as distinct religious beliefs, which affect ego permeability by playing into our natural tendencies to perceive attributes of money and value as inherently magic and spiritual.

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bitcoin-religion-filip-martinka-

Do you think that cryptocurrencies are religions?
There's always a few nutters in every bunch, but in most cases it's just a hobby, also certainly a profession for many on these boards, and nothing more than a useful tool for others (ie those who don't romantize bitcoin, but value its function in their lives only).

Guys we could do this actually, there is guides all over the internet in how to be legally recognized has a religion, http://www.apath.org/creating_religion.html
If you do any such thing I will look forward to buying ads in your area mocking and deriding you as fraudsters.
875  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race on: June 17, 2015, 03:05:45 PM
The problem here is that even pre/non-industrial agriculture isn't remotely harmonious with nature. Every inch of land that is now farm was once full of wild flora and fauna that has been destroyed to make room for that farm. Permaculture may offer a way to live harmoniously with Earth, but not for seven billion humans.

More than 80% of the land area of the earth has been altered, in order to make it more inhabitable for the human population. A large number of plant and animal species has gone extinct as a result of it.
That's quite an understatement friend.

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Stuart Pimm stated "the current rate of species extinction is about 100 times the natural rate" for plants. Mass extinctions are characterized by the loss of at least 75% of species within a geologically short period of time

One scientist estimates the current extinction rate may be as high as 10,000 times the background extinction rate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction

The thing about biodiversity loss is that it's not a problem until it is. It's a tipping point moment, a no turning back moment and we won't know we've hit it until it's too late.

I want to emphasize that it's not improbable we've already hit it, and twenty years from now our children will realize we had started some unstoppable domino effect, ruined Earth and no technology at our disposal can save it.

We are recklessly tampering with extremely delicately balanced systems that we don't fully understand. We're playing a very dangerous game here with fossil fuel industrial civilization, and gambling with the lives of all future Homo Sapiens.



There is no life on Venus. If there were ever oceans there, they boiled away long ago.
876  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you buy a prepaid crypto card? on: June 17, 2015, 01:05:39 PM
What do I need some plastic card for when I have a smartphone? This is 2015, not 1995.
877  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ShapeShift Leaves New York, Choosing Not to Comply with BitLicense on: June 17, 2015, 12:28:47 PM
I thought shapeshift requires no account.  so is it going to do an ip geo lookup and tell New Yorkers to scram?  and then, couldn't they just access it anyway via tor?

Yes, it checks the IP range and redirects to this site - http://pleaseprotectconsumers.org
This is fucking brilliant. Love it.
878  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Welcome to the "Bitcoin Standard" on: June 16, 2015, 07:36:20 PM
Bitcoin Standard.

This is good, strong language is important so fiat-slaves learn their rightful place long before they come grovelling at our mathematically guaranteed feet.
879  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banks are 'very excited' said Bitpay on: June 16, 2015, 07:34:27 PM
Banks are 'very excited' about what one of the world's best funded Bitcoin startups is doing
Lobster is very excited to be your dinner guest tonight, this bath is so warm and relaxing! Lobster is honored.

880  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race on: June 16, 2015, 07:09:41 PM
But for this worst mistake, the overwhelming majority of us wouldn't be here in the first place. As to whether that's a good thing or not...
Perhaps the worst mistake wasn't a choice at all, but the inevitable conclusion of the Homo Sapien brain, natural product of evolution playing itself out over millions of years on this tiny rock. We are the Gorilla in the Glass house, the breakers of the mathematically perfect, ultra-delicately balanced system that was Earth.  Maybe its the only way it ever could have been.

For all we know the development of a brain capable of sentience is the eventual result on every planet where life is possible, but the distances between all these planets in all cases so vast that every species faces eternity alone.
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