Great.  Seems like we are done with battle mode, for now, and willing to hug it out.   

Perhaps you are a bit more optimistic than me?  There continue to be internet informational and disinformation wars, and even governments who try to shut down the internet and even in the USA with stupid ass slow ass internet speeds and legislation that commercializes (throttles or slow down some kinds of content).  I doubt that the power is gone because a lot of people believe bullshit, and accept outright hateful self-centered criminal leaders like trump..    The war of information rages on.. and government players, large companies and rich people continue to have a disproportionate level of power and influence into distracting through quasi-truths and untruths.



Perhaps we agree about the motive to lie.. however, I don't agree with your "wasted taxpayer money" concept.  Publicly beneficial research and development does sometimes come out of government projects that would not have happened nor materialized without such use of community funds, even if there were millions of dollars into researching a space pen or some other seemingly "wasteful" research.

Personally, I am getting the sense that you are a bit off topic jojo, no?  Aren't you referring to booking BTC profits based on trading between BTC and various alts?  You are not talking about being able to get those kinds of profits from the BTC/USD volatility, right?

I will concede that perhaps I am a bit resentful of profits made by others during this kind of seemingly low volatility because it does seem to take me a decent amount of time to book profits (especially since I am not using margin), and the current volatility seems a bit on the lowside, which sometimes causes me to tentatively conclude that I am spinning my wheels because the amount of profits during these kinds of times remains quite low.  In that regard, during these kinds of "slow" times, I consider that I am stacking up and insuring, and maybe a bit of boredom, while considering that this is time to get other things done.. and to enjoy some of the lack of BTC price movement, no?

Of course if there is some kind of political or government proclamation, then those might be worthy of looking into to the extent that any meaningful number of people buy into the proclamations.  I would imagine that currently the number of folks believing in aliens that are capable of visiting earth to be quite small, and even smaller would be the number of people believing that any actual alien, if it were to occupy earth, would be capable of imitating a human..... In other words, that Tesla=alien proclamation is way out there in the low probability to be true category (perhaps less than .1% likelihood of any kind of meaningful truth, even though it could bring up decent talking points about why the point was raised in the first place and what evidence is presented in support of such a low-likelihood claim).

Rosanne Barr, is that you?


Oh sure... Apologizing is the proper thing to do if you conclude that you may have gone too far, or if you are not sure about whether you went too far.... So fair enough... Yet, in the same light, if you are having some of these kinds of issues, then you may want to post less frequently during those kinds of periods, perhaps?  Ultimately, it is up to you to decide how frequently to post and what to post.. I do think that everyone should attempt to be aware of his/her own medication limitations, if they are present, though.

I am not sure if I understand your point, fabiorem.  It seems that the article supports a kind of theory that increasing financialization to an asset such as gold (and subsequently bitcoin) might bring some short term fall in price, yet overall causes the market to multiply stupendously.  Accordingly, the overall theme of the article seems to show that increased financialization of bitcoin is likely to bring a decently-sized upward explosion in the bitcoin market and market cap - even if it could take some time to play out (and perhaps even if some of the fundamentals are different between gold and bitcoin). 

By the way, fundamentally, bitcoin seems to be superior to gold, so perhaps the upward explosion of bitcoin would be greater than gold, but still could take many years to play out... 5-10 years would not be unreasonable.

Oh shit... pee pare ur selfies.   

Nope.  Apparently we have a misunderstanding because I was attempting to say the opposite.  I was attempting to say that the falseness of the moonlandings would be more likely than the falseness of flat earth theories.  Thanks for clarifying and sorry for my ambiguity.


Doesn't matter.   I am not a flat earther, and if you just take one badly worded statement and try to blow it up rather than clarify, then you just seem to be stirring shit.


That is another way of putting it.  Yes.



I don't think so.  It is true that something of the past either happened or it did not happen, but it is not true that a person's belief about something happening is black and white 100%...  There is various levels of convincing evidence to make something true in someone's thinking or not, even though the truthfulness of something happening or not may be a lot more concrete. hello?  What world do you live in?



we disagree.



Nothing wrong with taking that position, and who the fuck cares about my opinion anyhow? It does not matter that much in terms of whether the events happened or the phenomenon is true, except if we are connecting such beliefs with something else.  There are a whole hell-of-a lot more luny beliefs than mine, so I am comfortable with my current belief situation, while being open to learning, too.



Those are decent examples in which there may be truth in some aspects of the stories, but there are also various interpretations too... so yeah, either the snake talked or it did not and either noah's ark happened or it didn't... but the opinions of people are going to vary considerably.... For me, seems like a lot of bullshit in each of those three tales, even though there could be some aspects that are based on some kind of truths of real events (likely stretches of the truth... but whatever).

Sure... it seems as if 6 manned landings does provide for more evidence that manned moon landings actually did take place.  So, yeah, if that stuff was faked, then there would habe been a whole hell-of-a lot of theatrics to pull it off. 

I am not really very attached to the moon landing topic, but I can appreciate ways in which any kinds of conspiracy and theories of truth can be connected with benefits of an immutable blockchain that could help to bring some truth to power - even though the powers that be are not likely to let go of their various propaganda machines at any point in the near future, and accordingly, similar to the internet, but likely more profound, bitcoin is likely to deliver a decently sized check on several mainstream propaganda systems.

Much gracias.   Hello back to you.  I edited my above earlier post based on your edumacation of me.

What are you talking about?

First of all this is a BTC/USD tracking thread, so why are you citing BTC prices in terms of pounds Euros?  [this sentence edited based on a subsequent post of Robin, Hood]

Second, BTC prices remain in a consolidation zone... In recent days they are neither going down or up.. Haven't you noticed?  Of course not, you are too busy wishing and trolling your wishes.  Yes, there may have been some posters and some proclamations asserting predictions that BTC prices going up or down or even granting greater chances to UP rather than DOWN - yet the mere fact that BTC prices are stalling within a not too dramatic consolidation range does not really tell us much of anything.

Regarding the zone of the actual consolidation, perhaps $7k is the low that would need to be broken before you start shooting your FUD spreading load too quickly, and even then, breaking $7k support would not necessarily indicate that BTC prices are going to break below $6,500, or $5k or even go below $3k as you likely would prefer in your preferred wet dream scenario.

I think that part of my point is that moon landing and other topics such as the official story behind the twin tower and DC attacks of 9/11/2001, who was behind the JFK assassination and other topics have decently credible evidence on both sides.. There is almost NO decently credible evidence that the earth is flat.


Maybe such another thread would treat the concepts of conspiracy theories rather than any particular conspiracy theory?

Surely, the concept of conspiracy theories can be related to bitcoin and also to the kinds of skills that any of us needs to attempt to sort through how to invest our own thinking (and simultaneously, money, perhaps?).

I was considering posting this response with a bit more emphasis; however, for now I decided to give some benefit of the doubt regarding your seeming lecture-mode....

In other words, I had no beef with anything that you said or did in your golden arch bun editing, and I was merely commenting here and there, and I had considered your various changes to the image to be quite creative in the communication of a slightly different artistic message.. so the topic seemed to have blown into a bit of a different direction, no?

Kind of like this:

Great.  you present your ideaurers about what is possible or probable so clearly, sir.  And, I would rather not communicate in puzzles, anyhow.





Edit below:  Added another response to sirazimuth.



I am not saying anything that is inconsistent, unless you are merely misunderstanding what I am saying, which could be your seeming purposeful attempt to read me out of context.  A desire to pick a fight, rather than attempt to clarify... correct?  

Great.

Edit number 2... add a response to Ibian the fibian


There is no need to remember anything, dumbass.  I just write stream of consciousness... Get real.


Edit # 3 - second response to ibian the fibian.....


I have nearly no idea what you are talking about.  Sounds like you are just making shit up in order to engage in an ad hominem attack rather than referring to any kind of real-life phenomenon.  Furthermore, earlier today, you had some stupid-ass generalization post.. this one #411306 (also attached below for ease of reference) and I decided to ignore your generalization nonsense, because you seem to be kind of off your rocker, and really motivated to stir up shit rather than to really facilitate any meaningfully related bitcoin discussion.  Anyhow, point is that you are a frequenter of such stupid distractions and bigoted generalizations (and seem to be part of your motivation in your above comment, too).

Exhibit A:

Actually, I appreciate the way this new poll is more specific regarding the "ATH for the 17th"  The only suggestion that I would make deals with clarifying the referenced timezone.  Are we talking about UTC?  0r some other timezone?

Hahahahaha

Yeah... ChartBuddy was used as a propaganda piece, attempting to falsely assert "the real bitcoin."  So far, didn't seem to work.

I doubt that we need any kind of poll for that.  We only need someone who is ready, willing and able to program such bot.

Surely you are baiting me.  O.k.  I am easy.  I will bite.  

A decent number of coins for any particular person is as many coins as they can reasonably accumulate without having to engage in gambling or excessive leveraging behavior.  So such quantity is going to be somewhat dependent upon the person's financial situation (including cashflow and other investments), view of bitcoin, risk tolerance, timeline, ability to research, strategize and adjust and rebalance his/her position from time to time.



I see if I scan to the end of your post, you already answered the "how many bitcoins is decent" for yourself; however, your range does seem to be a bit on the wide side (meaning that with further study of yourself and your views about bitcoin you should be able to hone in on a more narrowed target range for yourself).  

Edited to add the below response to mad bob:  hahahahhahaha


Before I saw your post, I already made my response.. seems like less than 5 paragraphs, yet as you imply that is an abbreviated response.  

I cannot help but to recognize that you are on a kind of BTC "information providing" roll...   sheeeit... 

Don't take my comment personally, but that is dumb as shit.  You are subscribing to the "you cannot handle the truth" theory, in regards to whatever had come back with the actual pictures (assuming that some peeps actually went to the real moon.. hahahahhaha).

What the fuck?  Put out fake pictures because the real ones are not very clear about what it is?  Makes very little sense, except for the explanation that the whole fucking things was a big ass snow job publicity stunt.