Morning all (and nice to see Risto back with a post) Sipping my morning coffee and I see we are over $17 again, in spite of BTC resilience post ETF. Volume on Polo buy side back at healthy levels, too. All rather good.... EDIT: And back to no. 4 market cap - comfortably above Ripple. Cream in my coffee today  |
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Ha! Pun-tastic stuff...
At least Moneroans have a sense of fun.
And on the speculation front, concerning the 'Amanda-less' coin we follow - more price action. Rising again - having anther go at 0.014x levels, with buy side up above 2K BTC on Polo...
The spike is not over just yet.
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Thanks for the responses. Very useful in my quest to determine which anoni-coin to support.
But, too bad you can't rein in the relentless trollers in the Dash thread. They are delusional to think their tactics will convert anyone on the fence (in a Dash thread, lol), and in fact, initially turned me against Monero.
I really don't know if Monero can succeed against the advantages that Dash is using so well, the marketing and user friendliness. Because a coin without a user base, a robust network, seems rather pointless. Nevertheless, it's a good fight, very entertaining. But it's not enough to have more ability. You still have to win in the ring.
It's not encouraged by anyone and personally I will spar in the trollbox on Polo with any coin, but I never go into the Dash thread to troll. I think most of us would not bother (irrespective of our feelings on a coin) as it seems a bit like playground stuff. Dash has leaped ahead, yes - but how sustainable pure marketing is without the tech to back it up, remains to be seen. Dash has little real use (no coin has really got traditional retail traction) and the security of network is not a point I would concede given the centralised nature of Dash and it's old-tech based upon BTC code. Anonymity is a seriously valuable battle ground, the prize is worth fighting for but it's a little early to bet on a winner in crypto. Price is no indicator of success; BTC is at all time highs, yet even the most important crypto it is riven with infighting and may even have a contentious hard fork split, plus the transactions back up and cost of transactions shows it is not working nearly as well as it should. Everyone agrees a 'privacy coin' has a place, but it's a way to go. ETH had a fork, ZEC, a disastrous launch. I would at least hedge my bets if I were you. Monero's tech is superior, even if Dash is stealing the limelight for now. Good luck with whatever you do. |
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BTC spoiled the party somewhat and I confess I was totally wrong-footed by it.
I was not expecting a post 'ETF declined' BTC price to be anywhere near this level.
I hold both but the XMR run is overdue and looked so strong.
Crypto, eh!
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The "Dash is a scam" argument doesn't work. Open your eyes. Look at the price.
Fiat money is a scam too. No one cares.
Got it in one. As a "clueless noobie", to quote a relentless troller on the Dash thread, I see that those in the Monero camp have a massive blindspot, about how, despite being less than a pristine and pure coin, Dash is succeeding. On Planet Monero, marketing seems to be a bad word, and user friendliness? Pshaw, too smart to need that! Come on! If that is what it takes to elevate a "flawed" coin like Dash to greatness, then how amazing could a "superior" crypto like Monero be, if that strategy were adopted? Please be dispassionate, and look at it without bias. If Monero is technically better than Dash, and yet Dash outperforms Monero, then what could the difference be? From this clueless noobie's viewpoint, the keys to domination in the Anonymous Coin Game appear to be marketing and user friendliness. And having trollers in the penalty box could be considered a negative factor as well. Despite having better players, Monero is massively behind on points, as Dash is working better as a team, and its strategy is superior. Is it too late for Monero to learn this? The Anonymous Coin Game will only have one winner. Can M come from behind? Will D hang on for the win? Stay tuned! The thing is, Monero doesn't work like that, it has no central funds and consequent marketing budget. Also It cannot restrict supply, it's all open to the market. Evan, his whales and the nodes can act in concert to make moves, to create expensive marketing in a way Monero cannot. However, that is also its appeal - it is not centralised, there is no controlling central force and the price IS the price, it cannot be artificial. So, while we are perhaps jealous of Dash's marketing (and price) we know Monero is fundamentally honest and open, there is no cabal of self-interested parties controlling it and ramping up the price. Dash may win for now, yes - it has had a stunning run and made a leap in profile, brand recognition... But you know what, I will keep my Monero, thanks - and I know why. |
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I think you are excused a little head of steam now and again esp. when dealing with fuckwits. I'll be honest, I have no idea wtf Dash is doing -- I posted a tweet by Charlie Lee a few weeks back in which he basically said "shit tech, no real privacy and lots of hot air marketing - not for me" and I think that sums up my attitude too. One can only apportion so much energy to this crypto-shit, its pointless obsessing over a coin that you are not invested in either intellectually or financially. Just block it out. But I agree with you re BTC - the cultists have had their thumb in their arses about this EFT for so long I don't think they know what to think now. I skimmed the SEC document and i can't say there's much I would disagree with. It may have first mover advantage but it (BTC) has taken so many wrong turns over the years (and lost sight of any guiding principals, if any really existed) that its difficult to see where it is headed. An interesting figure you quote there of 80% - one thing the EFT might have done is get some new money into crypto. That would have been good for everyone. But I'd agree with you, BTC is probably going to go down before it goes up again, perhaps a slow bleed and a further influx of 'crypto is dead' trolls. #ennui Yeah - I can't believe Dash other than a pretty smart campaign of shiny stuff and restricting supply plus walls and pumping by whales in conjunction with the central cabal, clever but it will end in tears. The D-heads are such 'true believers' someone sent me a map of 'where to spend dash worldwide' via Polo trollbox and I checked it. In UK, all I could see was a company called 'party cakes for U' and a locksmiths in the north of England. OK no one has real retail adoption in crypto, not even BTC to a decent extent. But really, the D-heads think it's already here. I agree in SEC, was never convinced - I sold a lot of BTC to catch the drop and no bids were filled, which surprised me. So - with all the potential stumbles ahead - a slide is looking likely. And this is why alts are flourishing now - no way you will get 20% in a day on BTC anytime soon, other than maybe in losses... But at $16.80 as I type, XMR is making my day rather special - been awfully quiet and having predicted a February breakout since last autumn, I was pretty down on the price. Now I see Monero was just getting out of bed a bit late and waiting for dash and BTC look rather toppy. Pushing $17 now... Hoo-bloody-ray! |
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BTW, why they pump Dark coin?  Stop asking that question here... move over the the Darkcoin Threads snip Nice one, nano. Succinct as always. You been ok? Not seen you post lately. Hi Mr K, Been on a bit of a crypto sabbatical with a touch of lurking (been enjoying your analyses however). I can't believe how many folks are still engaging with TC - the ignore button is your friend people. Anyway, great to be north of 16USD again and hopefully ready to retest the ATH.  Enjoy your Sunday !! Hi Nano! Those of us who are up are indeed enjoying this Sunday morning. Yeah - I lost it with TC, should have left it with something more succinct It was just frustration. As for ATH - we need to bust a few shorts who don't want us above 0.014 - ish and I hope the rise will continue. Perfect timing for us if D*** does (finally) fall back. I will settle for a $15 - $16 level while we refuel. It's way better than we've been at lately. I also think BTC may not hold up now, I was thinking the post-ETF dip was so shallow, it was 2013 Silk Road all over again. I know reckon it could slide down and alts may benefit. BTC is struggling to hold 80% of all crypto market, interestingly.... And BTC Wall Observer is full of people talking of 'stability'. Makes me feel the opposite... |
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I had enough monero waiting for the price to be rise i always fair enough when buying monero i don't want to loose big profit when it comes in crisis my friend who actually buy lots of monero he sold half and now he didn't get back his ROI
He sold a little soon. $15 and rising - what a nice chart to wake up to on a Sunday morning Yep, its been a great weekend for alt coins. The price is looking great right now - the price is $21.86 per XMR if my automated spreadsheet is updating itself correctly. Happy Days =) I think you'd better check that spreadsheet - it's more like $15.60 $15.66 $15.72... You get the idea. Haha, you are right - I was looking at the wrong column, I have 1.4XMR in a small wallet and was checking the balance - DOH Pushing towards $17 now- you can wait a while and you might be right... It's looking rather good. Hopefully we toast a few shorts soon and it could get really exciting |
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I had enough monero waiting for the price to be rise i always fair enough when buying monero i don't want to loose big profit when it comes in crisis my friend who actually buy lots of monero he sold half and now he didn't get back his ROI
He sold a little soon. $15 and rising - what a nice chart to wake up to on a Sunday morning Yep, its been a great weekend for alt coins. The price is looking great right now - the price is $21.86 per XMR if my automated spreadsheet is updating itself correctly. Happy Days =) I think you'd better check that spreadsheet - it's more like $15.60 $15.66 $15.72... You get the idea. Fits well enough in Canadian $  Ah - that $ sign always gets me confused.... Meanwhile, buy side on Polo up 1000 BTC in that last few minutes Breakout confirmed I hope. About bloody time. |
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I had enough monero waiting for the price to be rise i always fair enough when buying monero i don't want to loose big profit when it comes in crisis my friend who actually buy lots of monero he sold half and now he didn't get back his ROI
He sold a little soon. $15 and rising - what a nice chart to wake up to on a Sunday morning Yep, its been a great weekend for alt coins. The price is looking great right now - the price is $21.86 per XMR if my automated spreadsheet is updating itself correctly. Happy Days =) I think you'd better check that spreadsheet - it's more like $15.60 $15.66 $15.72... You get the idea. |
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And.... Back over LTC in the number 5 market cap position. Over ripple soon at this rate. Creeping up behind..... Da da daaaa! |
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I had enough monero waiting for the price to be rise i always fair enough when buying monero i don't want to loose big profit when it comes in crisis my friend who actually buy lots of monero he sold half and now he didn't get back his ROI
He sold a little soon. $15 and rising - what a nice chart to wake up to on a Sunday morning |
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The assumption that a new paradigm of 'stability' has arrived in Bitcoin is often found to be false before very long.
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C'mon people... calm the F down. I mean I understand some of the frustration towards certain people, but damn, some of you all need to get out more.
All this in house bickering, blatant disregard to how much potential Monero has and uncertainty of what's to come reminds me of when I found out about Monero back in mid-2015 and xmr was around $0.50... the time when Monero was fighting to stay above 0.001... just saying.
Fair enough. I did not intend to lower the tone. And I do remember, yes. Wish I had bought even more. Seeing us back at 0.012 and in the green on Polo is rather good. |
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Let's hope Monero will be pumped 2500 % a year - I will be very happy if they can pump it high but I doubt it will. Perhaps you can go to your local banker and speak about Monero if you know how to do it better. I have nothing against it by all means do it. My posts are very truthful and if it hurts someone it means the person it hurts is a crook as he cannot stand the truth that the majority of the use cases of Monero is illegal stuff and currently Monero is for the pumpers and dumpers (go and watch the charts so you will figure out what I've meant). You can say what you like, but if you really want to see Monero do well, it will be the community and fresh members of it that will make it happen. A few things you continually say do not help. Using the word pump as a positive term, as though there is a cartel of whales manipulating the price; this 'they' you mention, is just annoying and does no service to the spirit of a coin which is nothing like other coins, in terms of its ethos and the people that support it. Saying the majority of use cases are for illegal activity (over and over) is pointless. Yes there is traction in the dark net markets, but that is because privacy is important there. In the end it is something that matters to everyone to some extent, it just happens that the DNMs spotted it and are ahead of everyone else. Monero traders and holders do not buy Monero because they are criminals and very few coins can boast any use case at all. Saying anyone who is offended by your posts is 'a crook' goes too far. I am not a crook, but I sure as hell am losing my patience with you. Kindly think before you type because you routinely speak recklessly, look ignorant and do no good for a coin I know you hold and have done well from. If you don't I will not ask nicely again and you will have made someone who tolerated you here into an enemy. Well you can make an outreach and make new people buying into Monero. This is free world - anyone can do it. You might even with good planning to make some extra income in doing so. I am supporting everybody who are outreaching there. The energy you are wasting on trolling me can be better employed in preaching Monero to newbies. Simply do it. All you are doing is just a waste of energy and time. I will not quit speaking about the pumps and dumps because the price pumps and after that dumps. Please bear in mind, you begun the attack to me. I did not start it. I am losing my patience to you so please do not make someone who tolerated you here into enemy. You did - you were a dickhead. You aren't supporting anyone or anything but yourself. And you're doing that really (let me say this in a way you will actually take in) B...A...D...L...Y. You make more of a fool of yourself with every post. Carry on, by all means - but you are proving how much of a fool and a loser you are. Go ahead, but I will put you on ignore (first time on this thread). I might just dip in to give you a little kicking if I get bored, but you are not a friend to Monero, nor do you talk an ounce of sense. Possibly the biggest imbecile I have ever seen on BTCT in what, four years? Congratulations. OK, I have lost my temper - now I will ignore this moron and resume my composure - apologies to all. |
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Let's hope Monero will be pumped 2500 % a year - I will be very happy if they can pump it high but I doubt it will. Perhaps you can go to your local banker and speak about Monero if you know how to do it better. I have nothing against it by all means do it. My posts are very truthful and if it hurts someone it means the person it hurts is a crook as he cannot stand the truth that the majority of the use cases of Monero is illegal stuff and currently Monero is for the pumpers and dumpers (go and watch the charts so you will figure out what I've meant). You can say what you like, but if you really want to see Monero do well, it will be the community and fresh members of it that will make it happen. A few things you continually say do not help. Using the word pump as a positive term, as though there is a cartel of whales manipulating the price; this 'they' you mention, is just annoying and does no service to the spirit of a coin which is nothing like other coins, in terms of its ethos and the people that support it. Saying the majority of use cases are for illegal activity (over and over) is pointless. Yes there is traction in the dark net markets, but that is because privacy is important there. In the end it is something that matters to everyone to some extent, it just happens that the DNMs spotted it and are ahead of everyone else. Monero traders and holders do not buy Monero because they are criminals and very few coins can boast any use case at all. Saying anyone who is offended by your posts is 'a crook' goes too far. I am not a crook, but I sure as hell am losing my patience with you. Kindly think before you type because you routinely speak recklessly, look ignorant and do no good for a coin I know you hold and have done well from. If you don't I will not ask nicely again and you will have made someone who tolerated you here into an enemy. |
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Hey everyone. Well the good news is my wife is very happy! She is back from her mothers and believes I am not a complete fool once more. Sold at $1196 on stamp so everyone is happy. I didnt lose anything. In face made a tiny bit. She isn't leaving me anymore. Now all that is left to do is cry into a pillow because I have no position. She says if I do this again she will kill me, but on the crash we must have this weekend as we shake out weak hands Ill be back  No one tell me wife My 2c: Maybe think twice about putting the lot in next time? Especially if it's a shared pot. She would have a point if you'd wiped out a chunk of it. Get her to agree an amount of BTC you can buy (and trade some of) trade and stick to it. |
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Too early to say, perhaps - but When Silk Road happened in 2013 there was a fairly big crash.
However, the totally unexpected recovery was damn quick and took everyone by surprise.
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A little after 4.00pm US EST time.
My bet, no info to support it whatsoever - apart from I used to live in Manhattan. I just think they will want to release it after trading hours at NYSE / NASDAQ.
35 minutes... ish.
Battle positions, Gentlemen.
Fine wine at the ready or a nice cup of horlicks and a box of tissue to mop up the tears? I am cheating with a Crozes Hermitage, but THEN it's a Chateau Lafite or the bloody cooking wine EDIT: The Lafite will have to wait..... |
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A little after 4.00pm US EST time.
My bet, no info to support it whatsoever - apart from I used to live in Manhattan. I just think they will want to release it after trading hours at NYSE / NASDAQ.
35 minutes... ish.
Battle positions, Gentlemen.
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