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1861  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Disaat Crypto Winter begini, Apa yang kalian lakukan? on: February 02, 2023, 10:40:36 AM
Main koin/token micin memang ada sensasi tersendiri  Grin. Intinya sih selain melakukan analisa dan riset, harus siap dan ikhlas jika spkeluasinya tidak membuahkan hasil (atau malah lenyap) karena potensi resikonya memang tinggi. Jadi sebisa mungkin gunakan dana nganggur yang memang tidak dialokasikan buat apapun.

Ya begitulah mas, ini jelas bukan main-main. Saya pernah profit dari modal $80 ke $1500 dari koin micin. Lumayan memang, cuma sepertinya masa bullish saat ini sedang fase tidak baik untuk saya, karena belum ada dana nganggur buat beginian. Lagi pula hype koin micin juga sudah habis, masih liat-liat apa yang akan hype pada masa bullish mendatang ini. Jika NFT dan meme sudah lewat eranya, apakah mungkin AI & Big Data token akan mengalami hype bullish mendatang?
1862  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will Shiba inu get to $1 on: February 01, 2023, 12:36:15 PM
However, there are still quite a number of people investing in this coin. mostly they do the supply and then forget about it. it might be better when it see in the next few years. It is still an investment that many people choose. however, the risk is still high.

However, supply is sometimes not a concern. If in the past we wanted to focus on buying coins on how much supply, now this is not so applicable. Most new trdaers choose to look for instant profits, not from supplies. Indeed, with the current supply of SHIB, it is almost impossible for SHIB to reach $1, but if burning is done consistently to reduce supply, this supply problem may be resolved in the future and bring SHIB prices to be better. Or redenomination by reducing the amount of supply, for example 1000:1, this will also have an effect on the price later. We never know what this supply will be like. To be sure, the development of SHIB is still ongoing, this can be a consideration for people who want to invest in tokens at low prices.

NFA/DYOR/DWYOR
1863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 01, 2023, 12:07:45 PM
It will feel even more special if when they confirm themselves as champions it doesn't only happen at home but also when they can beat their current rival team, Inter Milan.
Long wait for a club like Napoli because they last won in the 1989-1990 season and it took 33 years to be able to win again

Napoli must able to keep their good performance at least, till week 30, after that, we can see Napoli can seal their chance to get Scudetto. And, Not only Napoli must be able to beat Inter to maintain their chances of becoming champions. However, Napoli can be helped by other teams. The next match, Inter will again meet with AC Milan. If in this match AC Milan can hold Inter to a draw or with better results, win the match, then in my opinion Napoli can already take one advantage. Then, in March, Inter will meet Juventus, maybe Juventus give a surprise to win this game. except Napoli, other teams are showed inconsistency, this is a real advantages for Napoli.
1864  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Disaat Crypto Winter begini, Apa yang kalian lakukan? on: February 01, 2023, 11:58:00 AM
waktunya sekarang mulai perlahan cari koin potensi yg masih low marketcap.. untuk longterm, selamat berburu  Grin

Pada masa-masa bullish lalu, saya senang mencari token "micin", karena doge yang pumping token micin banyak bermunculan, lumayan sih kalau masuk ke token yang benar. Bukan untuk hold sih, tapi untuk hit & run. Sepertinya pada masa-masa bullish yang akan datang ini, akan ada banyak token baru yang akan kembali muncul. Sudah hal yang lumrah ketika bullish banyak proyek baru bermunculan dengan berbagai konsep. Tapi ingat, harus dibarengi dengan riset yang baik. Karena, dengan riset pun banyak yang loss, apalagi yang asal ikut  Grin

Kalau yang long term, mungkin bisa melakukan penyaringan pada proyek yang lahir pada masa bullish atau sebelum bullish 2020, namun masih eksis saat ini, jika dev tetap aktif, ada kemungkinan untuk bisa melihat pump koin tersebut lagi. (bukan jaminan, NFA/DYOR/DWYOR)
1865  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Mungkinkah untuk menambah Sub board lokal? on: February 01, 2023, 11:44:31 AM
Kemudian sebenarnya kalau saya pikir penambahan sub board lain cukup bagus, tapi nanti juga bisa jadi bomerang kalau partisipasinya hanya orang itu-itu saja. Walapun bisa juga nanti sub baru bisa menambah diskusi lokal menjadi semakin ramai. Karena kalau dilihat dari grafik yang ditampilkan Om @Mameso Indonesia memang termasuk kategori cukup banyak terjadi diskusi di Sub Forum Lokal meski kita kalah auh dari Rusia.


tepat, dalam sudut pandang saya, untuk saat ini kita memang tidak begitu membutuhkan sub baru. Di sub yang sudah ada saja banyak sekali thread yang tidak mendapatkan respon diskusi berkelanjutan. Pada akhirnya, member akan kembali pada thread-thread yang sifatnya lebih mudah untuk direspon. Jika misal nanti ditambah dengan sub baru, ada banyak thread baru, sedangkan member yang aktif di lokal board tetap sama, jadi kemungkinan tidak akan mendukung kuantitas post yang signifikan. Kecuali, jika penambahan sub ini bisa menarik member yang jarang aktif di lokal menjadi lebih aktif. Namun, potensinya pun sangat kecil, saya lebih yakin kalau yang aktif saat ini, akan tetap menjadi pemain utama untuk mendukung sub baru tersebut.
1866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: February 01, 2023, 11:32:40 AM
Tottenham and AC Milan are both 5th in the standings in their respective leagues, and I think Tottenham is much better if you look at their last 5 matches.
however the Champions League is a very important competition and even though they are not doing well in their respective leagues there is a possibility in the UCL they will do very well because UCL is a very prestigious competition from other leagues. so of course all players and coaches will try their best to play very well in order to win the match, and it will be a very interesting match.

Yup, I'm not saying AC Milan will easily win this match. Because, so far AC Milan performance is not good. Tottenham will adopt playing fast, same as in the EPL, while AC Milan is playing with more slower. With a different tempo, a different physique, AC Milan will likely prioritize defensive play and counterattack. If they keep up with fast games like EPL teams, it seems Milan is still can't keep up with Tottenham. Milan must be take advantage as a host. If Milan can scored 2 goals and keep cleansheet, maybe Milan have a chance to going to the next round.
1867  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: LegoCoin, Koin Meme Yang Kelihatan Seperti Menjanjikan on: January 31, 2023, 03:55:43 PM
-snip-

Menurutt kaliann apa akan terus kayak dongkrak?, kalau iya, ini kesempatan bagus buat beli, sapa tahu minggu depan naik ke harga 1000 lagi.

Sepertinya harganya memang sering loncat-loncat mas. Saya cek gap harga antara buy & sellnya memiliki jarak yang cukup jauh.



dari pancakeswap juga ada perubahan harga yang cepat pula,



Ya, kalau saya sih ga begitu yakin untuk entry, cuma kalau mas mau ngambil risiko sih itu terserah mas saja jika mau entry. Jujur saja, bagi saya sulit untuk mengatakan bagus atau tidak untuk beli koin beginian  Grin

1868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: January 31, 2023, 03:40:00 PM
valencia's management is really funny, they blame Gattuso because currently valencia is still in an unsafe zone but they don't want to add a number of potential players for valencia. Gattuso has moved clubs several times, hopefully, he will soon find a suitable team and want to stay with him for a long time.

It is normal for Board management to blame the coach for the team's results. Because for them, the coach is a leader who must be able to provide a good strategy with any quality of players, must be able to achieve the target desired by the board. I agree with @bering, being a good player is not guarantee he will become a good coach too. Gattuso should try to follow Maldini decision to become as a director or he can choose to become other than a coach. Perhaps his best career right now is not as a coach. See what happens with Seedorf, he also can't give any good result for his club. And now, no club hire him.
1869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: January 31, 2023, 04:03:23 AM
The match between Milan and Tottenham will be one of the most exciting.  Both teams are getting surprising results in their respective leagues.  Both of the two matches they will play together may result in surprise results.  Since the first match will be in Italy, I think Milan is closer to victory.  The second game is in England and anything can happen.  I think Milan could be the team that will pass the tour.  It's going to be a nice matchup, with two teams of equal strength after all.

From the standings position in their respective leagues, Tottenham & Milan maybe equal from the strength. However, if we look at it from the coach's, Conte seems to be able to understand the character of AC Milan. This is an advantage for Tottenham to be able to beat AC Milan. From AC Milan side, the UCL is an important competition, but a loss to Sassuolo in the domestic league will make Milan players getting bad mentality. Before the game against Tottenham, Milan will meet the two teams that have beaten them, Inter Milan in the Supercoppa and Torino in the Coppa Italia. Obviously, the results of this match will further affect the mentality of AC Milan players. IMO, draw is best results for Milan, and if Milan can win the match, I will be surprise.
1870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: January 31, 2023, 02:37:01 AM
Unfortunately, Gattuso failed to become Valencia coach. He was reportedly fired by Valencia as of January 30, 2023. It was very hard for a Gattuso to become a coach, he didn't shine so much, since 2013, he could only give 1 Coppa Italia trophy to Napoli. Meanwhile, when he coached other clubs, including Valencia, he experienced difficulties. Valencia in bad position, they are only 1 point different from the team in the relegation zone. Despite being in 14th position at the moment, it looks like the Valencia board does not want this negative result to continue, and has decided to sign mutual agreement to terminate the contract with Gattuso.
1871  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 31, 2023, 02:21:57 AM
There is only 2 points Gap between inter and milan, it's really not The right time to determine whatever milan will qualify to the champoins league or not but yesterday defeat was catastrophic for milan, encasing 5 goals in san siro from a team who didn't win for almost 10 rounds is really not expected and they should find the reason and solve it

Yes, I understand, but let's see AC Milan performance in the last few matches. Milan, IMO, has experienced a decline in performance in Serie-A. Actually, Milan is now able to focus for Serie-A, after failing in the Coppa Italia. UCL might be the last round for Milan if they are still in their current form (i think hard for Milan to win from Tottenham). Then, in Serie-A, last 4 matches, 2x drew, 2x lost, while at the beginning of the season, Milan was consistent with wins, meaning that, in the second half of this season, Milan started with a decline in performance. Meanwhile, Inter, Lazio and Atalanta are in improved form. That's why, I feel that Milan potential for UCL next season is very difficult, seeing Milan is in a decline phase.
1872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: January 30, 2023, 09:06:40 PM
That game is going to be a very interesting match to watch , Barcelona are  topping the Spanish league right now, and they are playing  very well at the moment, they are always good in possession and they have the most prolific number 9 at the moment which is Robert Lewandowski, while Manchester United at the moment and still developing they are like under dog to Barcelona at the moment but football anything is possible, now that one of their key player is now injured, the likes of Christian Erikson, is going to be another set back for them. But lets watch and see. Like i said before the game is going be a very interesting game to look out for.

The match between Barcelona v MU is the only match most eagerly awaited by football lovers. The reason is, of the many matches, only this match has the title of being the big match of the UCL rulers who have fallen to the 2nd caste Cheesy, Barcelona is the favorite in this match, but surprises are sure to come and the results of this first game will build the mentality for the players to be ready for the second round.
1873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 30, 2023, 08:51:08 PM
Neither Milan nor Juventus are credible at the moment. Both of them are having serious problems with defending. Their latest games ended up with terrible results. Milan's chance of qualifying for the Champions League can also be under danger as long as they don't make an improvement in their defense line. They were a team that were in the title race before but now they are even worse than a couple of big teams in the league now.

AC Milan can't seem to qualify for the UCL this season if all of last  match they ger another lost. Their performance is much lower than last season. With a player formation that hasn't changed much, Milan failed to play as epic as last season. Lazio and Atalanta who have the potential to qualify will pursue positions 3-4.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
1874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 29, 2023, 12:29:20 PM
Sassuolo are leading currently, the game started with Giroud scoring within the first ten minutes but had their goal cancelled for Offside. Sassuolo were quick to then score and double their lead. Thanks to Giroud again, AC Milan were able to reduce Sassuolo's lead to 1-2.

A few minutes later, from a corner kick, Sassuolo have been able to increase their lead back to 1-3, putting back the pressure on AC Milan who need to win this game importantly.  

Just within thirty minutes, there have been many goals, It is an indication that this is a game with plenty goals and It is still even possible that AC Milan win this game at the end.

Sassuolo is a "killer" for AC Milan. This is the designation I give. Every time AC Milan meets Sassuolo I'm always worried. Because Sassuolo often give a great pressure for AC Milan. I know, Milan did not always lose against Sassuolo, but they often broke AC Milan's good performance. Those who bet on Sassuolo's victory will get a very satisfying profit.  Grin

Market _______OddsStats
AC Milan Win _______1.4978%
Sassuolo Win _______5.9210%
Draw _______4.6521%
https://footystats.org/italy/ac-milan-vs-us-sassuolo-calcio-h2h-stats

The match not over yet, but i think will be hard for Milan if their performance showed as first half.
1875  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Apakah Bappebti Benar Benar Melindungi Investor Indonesia? on: January 29, 2023, 12:07:42 PM
Jika kejadian seperti itu, dari yang saya ketahui, tugas Bappebti lebih ke memfasilitasi mediasi antara exchange dengan user. Kemudian, sebagaimana namanya yakni Badan Pengawas, diantara tugasnya yakni jika ada exchange yang terindikasi mangkir dari laporan transaki keuangan, dll.

Betul, kadang ada yang berpikir kalau misalkan Bappbeti memberi izin listing terhadap suatu koin, itu adalah tanggung jawab sepenuhnya dari Bappebti jika suatu saat koin tersebut berakhir scam. Padahal kehadiran bappebti bukan layaknya asuransi yang bisa menanggung kerugian dari premi yang dibayarkan. Melainkan hanya mengawasi, menyaring dan berusaha agar exchange di Indonesia tidak asal listing. Kita bisa lihat exchange global seperti Probit, XT, Bitmart dan sebagainya, mereka mudah melisting koin yang pada akhirnya koin-koin tersebut mati. Disinilah peran Bappebti benar-benar membantu trader Indonesia, terlebih yang baru mau mulai masuk ke dunia kripto.
1876  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Edukasi] Dari Private Key Sampai Ke Bitcoin Address (Untuk Pemula) on: January 29, 2023, 12:00:20 PM
Kalo ga percaya coba aja shuffle 20x dan masukin ke appsnya iancoleman. Kalo masih penasaran shuffle lagi 100x... feeling ane ga ada yang valid checksum.
Saya terlalu malas untuk melakukan shuffle sebanyak itu mas. hahaha.. udah capek di shuffle starlight beberapa bulan lalu  Tongue

Program itu ada mas, malah open source, sampeyan nyari google juga bakal nemu. seedrecover.py > https://github.com/3rdIteration/btcrecover
jalaninnya di terminal, akan tetapi itu butuh juga sumber daya yang bagus, computing PC sampeyan juga harus mumpuni dan pastinya juga sama kayak PC mining BTC, karena untuk nebak 1 kata saja butuh 20 tahun dengan pakai PC kayak sekarang. [1].
Tentu jika PC kuantum sudah ada, hitungan jadi singkat [2]

Terima kasih mas infonya, cuma yang ditanyakan oleh teman saya seperti web based bukan dari terminal. Pada web tersebut ada informasi yang menyatakan kalau sekian wallet itu valid. gitu. Cuma saya ga tau apakah itu cuma iming-iming atau real, karena kalau web based kan kita bisa membuat validitas palsu.

Dari kesimpulan yang didapat dari post mas @abhiseshakana mas @mu_enrico dan mas ini sudah memberikan jawaban dari kejanggalan saya. Terima kasih atas penjelasannya  Wink
1877  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Edukasi] Dari Private Key Sampai Ke Bitcoin Address (Untuk Pemula) on: January 28, 2023, 03:32:15 AM
Sebetulnya ini ga bisa asal shuffle soalnya ada 4bit checksum, jadi kalau asal shuffle nanti yang mnemonic yang didapat tidak valid checksum.
Cuma ane belum nyoba masukin mnemonic yang tidak valid checksum ke wallet, apakah nanti tetap bisa dipaksa menghasilkan address atau hanya bisa error.
Kalau pakai iancoleman sih invalid mnemonic.
Bener mas, ini memang tidak asal, dan tujuannya untuk mencari valid seed.

Btw software untuk validasi seed itu buat apa? Malah nanti mnemonic bisa dicatet dan kemudian diakses orang lain...
Ini yang saya khawatirkan mas, ketika ada yang bisa mengacak dan memiliki program/software yang menginformasikan valid atau tidaknya address, nanti ia mencoba untuk mengimport dan melihat isinya. Kalau diakses orang lain saya pikir tidak akan, tapi ya yang punya program tersebut yang akan akses.

Tinggal pakai database/dictionary kata mnemonic + checksum aja toh?
- cek dulu kata-katanya ada semua ga di database/dictionary, kalau ada kata yang ga terdaftar == error
- cek apakah checksum valid, kalau invalid == error

Ini sebaiknya tidak dibuat software 3rd party hanya untuk ginian, rentan buat curi-curi data.
Ini sebenarnya ga perlu semuanya, misal dari seed yang mas pake sebagai contoh di atas, itu kan udah bisa di shuffle menjadi banyak, semisal pada shuffle ke 3x seperti yang saya contohkan adalah milik saya, dan terdeteksi checksum valid, artinyakan itu bisa diimport, hasilnya kan jadi bisa diakses tuh addressnya. Bener kan?
1878  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Edukasi] Dari Private Key Sampai Ke Bitcoin Address (Untuk Pemula) on: January 27, 2023, 01:22:14 PM
Bump untuk pertanyaan yang mengganjal;D


Jadi begini, ada teman yang bertanya mengenai program untuk memvalidasi kalau seed tersebut valid atau tidak. Anggap saja begini, dari contoh seed yang mas @mu_enrico berikan

Code:
symptom display melt eight where universe prison vacuum convince garbage glance fork

setelah saya shuffle 3x, dengan generator online, hasilnya ini:

Code:
melt display prison symptom fork vacuum where universe convince garbage glance eight

symptom melt glance convince where garbage display universe prison eight vacuum fork

fork eight where glance symptom display garbage melt universe convince prison vacuum

Nah, dari hasil tersebut kemudian jika valid, bukankah ada kemungkinan kalau seed tersebut memiliki address yang eksis. Jadi akun kita menjadi seperti tidak aman jika memiliki seed jika validasi seed acak ini benar-benar ada programnya. Memang, dari 12 kata akan menghasilkan banyak sekali kata yang berbeda. Takutnya jika valid memiliki address dan bisa diimport, bukan tidak mungkin jika itu milik kita, dan kebetulan ada asetnya kemungkinan dikuras.

nah, pertanyaan saya adalah, apakah mungkin seseorang membuat program yang menginformasi validitas seed dari beberapa kata yang kita acak tersebut? Karena saya pikir, kalau untuk shuffle kata tidak membutuhkan resource computing besar, cuma kalau deteksi valid ini benar adanya, tetap saja akan menjadi ancaman pencurian yang serius.
1879  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Akankah Altcoin kategori AI & Big data populer kembali di 2023? on: January 27, 2023, 12:41:58 PM
Ternyata banyak juga. Berarti intinya harus terus memantau berita atau kabar-kabar terbaru terkait crypto dan segala hal yang sekiranya mempunyai dampak terhadap crypto itu sendiri. Berarti selama ini ketika saya mencari-cari berita tentang suatu altcoin berarti secara tidak langsung saya sedang melakukan analisa fundamental begtukah?
Betul mas. Apa yang mas baca itu bagian dari analisa fundamental. Tapi, mas harus mencari rujukan yang valid. Jangan mencari rujukan dari media yang sering posting FUD dan FOMO. Karena ini akan membuat analisa mas kacau. Karena media sering kali memposting sebuah isu yang tidak valid. Akan berbeda jika yang diambil merupakan informasi dari halaman resmi, ini akan membantu memvalidasi analisa mas. Misal, Token A, posting di twitter, Pengembangan Layanan A sudah 90%, ini valid bisa menjadi fundamental. Sedangkan di media menyebutkan "Token A: Layanan A batal launch sesuai jadwal", sebuah permainan kata saja. Nah, ini akan membuat mas menjadi ragu. Jadi, validasi dilaman resmi akan membantu menentukan lebih baik daripada sebatas baca di media.
1880  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Apakah Bappebti Benar Benar Melindungi Investor Indonesia? on: January 27, 2023, 12:32:43 PM
Apapun bisa terjadi crypto, lihat saja peringkat sebelum crypto Luna Tera terkena scam. Bappebti tidak bisa menjadi dukun menebak masa depan. Selain itu Luna Tera mereka salah satu koin terbaik yang saya pikir memang proyeknya terlihat menarik. Jadi wajar mereka berani mengelist menyetujui listing diindonesia.

Saya rasa bukan karena menarik atau tidak hingga Bappebti memberikan izin listing di Indonesia. Namun, jika kita melakukan penilaian sederhana
1. Perusahan jelas memiliki kantor
2. CEO juga jelas
3. Pengguna layanan banyak
4. Exchange FTX menjadi top exchange global
Dari 4 alasan tersebut bisa dikatakan kalau proyek ini valid legit. Jadi dari 4 faktor ini saja sudah cukup untuk menjadi acuan FTX layak mendapatkan izin. Bukan dari menariknya FTX  Smiley (Ini jika saya yang menilai, Bappebti pasti memiliki penilaian yang berbeda, namun saya meyakini kemungkinan ada bagian yang saya sebutkan menjadi acuan Bappebti) 

Bappebti belum bekerja optimal karena saya juga merasa token token yang list dimarket indonesia kadang token yang belum teruji ketahanannya.
Sembari berjalan, Bappebti akan memperbaiki, saat ini belum optimal karena memang resource mungkin masih terbatas dan pengalaman nantinya akan membantu memperbaiki aturan izin listing token/koin di Indonesia. Urusan scam atau tidak saya sepakat sama mas, Bappebti bukan dukun.
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