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1881  Economy / Economics / Re: Today & Tonight, Gold is Getting KILLED on: February 20, 2016, 03:02:44 PM
gold has pulled back the losses, does this chart look like gold is getting killed?


1882  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: February 20, 2016, 02:20:39 PM

no one knows about the future, no one guarantees, bitcoin prices will be higher in the future, and we do not know bitcoin will live for a long time or not. in contrast to gold. we already know the history of gold, already many centuries ago of gold was worth, the better gold

If you are going to live 5000 years - yes, you will benefit from gold

If you want to see gain (or dramatic loss) - BTCs are your choice



Gold is up 17% this year already.  I think the 5000 years is not needed.

1883  Economy / Economics / Re: US Debt Has Exploded on: February 20, 2016, 01:41:26 PM
I don't agree that the taxes are not enough to pay the debit as US is always known for their financial status. Even increasing taxes is not a long term solution as it will indirectly affect people financially.
I guess they will not bother this. If USA really in a debt, there can not be issues for the citizens as the Government know how to settle their dues by increasing the taxes of the companies rather than the citizens. They never care about future consequences and about people too.

You increase the taxes on companies and a lot of people end up losing their jobs.
1884  Economy / Collectibles / Re: SUPER DELUX Lucky coin sale- SOLD OUT on: February 19, 2016, 02:50:35 PM
What coin numbers did you both receive??
I see that markj113 got coin #5?? yet he was #1 on list

Please let me know so I can update list/chart.

Thanks Smiley

I got #1, your mistaking the "S" for a 5

Sticker says "#1 S Delux"
1885  Economy / Collectibles / Re: SUPER DELUX Lucky coin sale- SOLD OUT on: February 19, 2016, 02:46:42 PM
I have recycled my peeled lucky coin using the hologram that came with lucky delux too Smiley

Cool ! great idea to recycle the coin this way. I assume you put a privatekey behind the holo

Yes stuck a new private key behind the hologram
1886  Economy / Collectibles / Re: SUPER DELUX Lucky coin sale- SOLD OUT on: February 19, 2016, 02:41:26 PM
I have recycled my peeled lucky coin using the hologram that came with lucky delux too Smiley



1887  Economy / Collectibles / Re: SUPER DELUX Lucky coin sale- SOLD OUT on: February 19, 2016, 02:33:23 PM
Received my super delux today too Smiley
1888  Economy / Economics / Re: Economically speaking does anyone actually not want economic equality? on: February 18, 2016, 04:43:50 PM
There should not be economic equality.

A doctor deserves more financial reward than a burger flipper

yeah but there must be a limit, above which you don't get anything anymore no matter who you are, otherwise the inequality will be too prominent

let's say $5k as a good limit

So a doctor that spent 8 years + in higher eduction with no earnings for that period and leaving with a huge debt should only get $5k

While a burger flipper that left school with no debt, earned a wage during thos 8 years should get more.

I say you are worth what someone is willing to pay, its a free market.
1889  Economy / Economics / Re: Economically speaking does anyone actually not want economic equality? on: February 18, 2016, 04:08:25 PM
There should not be economic equality.

A doctor deserves more financial reward than a burger flipper
1890  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: February 18, 2016, 09:37:52 AM
Dont forget we dont all live in the "land of the free" lol.

Pretty sure Gold wont be banned in my country.
1891  Economy / Economics / Re: US Debt Has Exploded on: February 17, 2016, 05:48:49 PM
Ok but can someone explain to me how will bitcoin be used for store value in days after big crash?
Maybe bitcoin also will go down especially those mining farms.
  Without great secure network bitcoin will also be in crisis?
The great thing is that they can't seize your money to pay your banks debts like they did in Malta. A few months ago, I saw the topic of a man who lost 300'000$ because of this.
The big corporations and states didn't want to lose money so they just took the deposits in the bank.
Absolutely outrageous, but there is nothing the individual  can do about it. Just don't repeat the same mistake...

Why do you think there is a global push to move to a cashless society?

The bank bail in laws are already in place, doesnt take a genius to put it all together.

Either a haircut of your cash or a slow erosion through negative interest rates will achieve the same the goal.


There is no global push, nobody can tell people what to do with their money.
Every currency is based on trust. Bitcoin has to win that trust.

What I mean is that people hopefully will understand that the actual economic system is rotten and that if they want to store value they will have to diversify their assets (and that includes bitcoin).

So when the governments ban cash what are you going to do with your notes?

They are already looking to ban high value USD, GPB and euro notes and that is just the start.

I think you need to do a bit more reading -

https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=ssl&ei=IrLEVvTXB9TAaO_LmJAM#q=cashless+society
1892  Economy / Economics / Re: US Debt Has Exploded on: February 17, 2016, 02:46:08 PM
Ok but can someone explain to me how will bitcoin be used for store value in days after big crash?
Maybe bitcoin also will go down especially those mining farms.
  Without great secure network bitcoin will also be in crisis?
The great thing is that they can't seize your money to pay your banks debts like they did in Malta. A few months ago, I saw the topic of a man who lost 300'000$ because of this.
The big corporations and states didn't want to lose money so they just took the deposits in the bank.
Absolutely outrageous, but there is nothing the individual  can do about it. Just don't repeat the same mistake...

Why do you think there is a global push to move to a cashless society?

The bank bail in laws are already in place, doesnt take a genius to put it all together.

Either a haircut of your cash or a slow erosion through negative interest rates will achieve the same the goal.

1893  Economy / Lending / Re: i actually have 2 btc i want to invest on: February 17, 2016, 12:53:35 PM
Always amazes me how these people that can make you up to 40% a month profit never have any cash themselves and go begging around the loan sections.

If I could make 40% a month on my investments I would be a very rich man!
1894  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: February 15, 2016, 06:59:40 PM
Gold price reached its highest price after a long time but now it dropped by 50 dollars while bitcoin breached the 400$ mark once more.
These are difficult days for any market so use your own diligence while, buying/selling/trading

Nothing goes up in a straight line.

Gold is is now £136oz up on the start of the year, a pull back of £30oz from £866oz is normal and to be expected.
1895  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Lucky coin redemption thread - all versions on: February 15, 2016, 01:51:28 PM
I caved in and redeemed the key - 0.01 bitcoin here.

Remaining coins now have a 1:7 chance, good luck Smiley
1896  Economy / Economics / Re: Why doesn't everyone match the US debt level? on: February 15, 2016, 12:38:57 PM
the US is not in too good shape -


1897  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Lucky coin redemption thread - all versions on: February 15, 2016, 09:43:58 AM

Updated info, thanks Smiley
1898  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Lucky coin redemtion thread on: February 14, 2016, 09:59:42 PM
Sorry guys only just seen this thread.

I've peeled mine from rounds 1 + 2 and they both had 0.01BTC.

So you all have a 1 in 9 chance of having the 1BTC for the first 2 rounds.

Good luck all Smiley.

P.S. My first coin was the peeled one gravitate mentioned.

Thanks for the update and bad luck.  So the odds have now reduced to a 1:9

Peeled my round 2 coin. It was the one with 1 BTC Grin

Joke... I'm not gonna peel any of my coins. Write that down please Wink

info added thanks
1899  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Buying and selling on: February 14, 2016, 08:56:52 PM
Scammer deleteing posts from this self moderated thread.

Sucks to be him   Roll Eyes

asking for $12k unsecured loans one minute then offering to sell 160 bitcoin the next - you send first obviously (with no Escrow)
1900  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Lucky coin redemtion thread on: February 14, 2016, 08:55:18 PM
I dont have mine by now but i dont plan to redeem it xD

added, thanks.
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