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1901  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: COVID-19: Avoid casino, play online on: March 13, 2020, 11:36:41 AM
This is indeed more preferable than playing on actual casino. Interaction with regards to physical contact is what we are trying to avoid here and online gambling would be the solution to this conflict. The health related issue is now causing havoc to various countries which limits the hobbies and other activities of an individual including gambling. Online gambling is the new way of gambling and obviously, it would be safer these days to do so compared on going to actual casinos.
Indeed, it is always a wise choice to play gambling online since the virus can be transmitted person-to-person and even touching surfaces that been touched by the host. I am just hoping the vaccines will be available as soon as possible but as it will take a long way it's better to stick with the precautions of the government. Staying at home is just one way to stop the transmission of the virus but as always reminded by health authorities it is "proper hygiene".
I have read an article about a vaccine being discovered that would treat and aid this issue. But I forgot that particular article and also, I haven't heard of such thing from the news so maybe, that is still a hoax or just a rumor. But I do also hope that it would be created soon as possible because we are now seeing the inconvenience the virus is giving to us.
Hmm, we got different point of view regarding this matter. You are right, only 2% (or below as far as I know) is the mortality rate of Covid 19 so panicking is unnecessary at all.
Yes, but you forgot one important part.
The mortality rate is low and it mostly affects the elderly. Chances are if you get infected that you will recover. But what if you infect your dad, grandmother or the old neighbor next door. Will he recover considering that most of the dead are aged 70+? That is a gamble I am not willing to take.
Many people do panic a lot because they have experienced different viruses before which might become a stimuli for them to panic, because they are anticipating worse possibilities to happen. But as far as I have read, those who have weak immune system such as the elders and the childrens are most prone to the said disease.
1902  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play dice: Strategy with BTC on: March 10, 2020, 04:42:14 PM
Dice games are one of popular gambling game which has so many people like to play. People tend to stay at the gambling site to play dice for a long time because some of them use many strategies to try to win the games. But only a few people who can win and get much money from the dice, and that is because of luck that they get inside the games.

I didn't use strategy when I played dice games because I only want to enjoy my time while I don't have anything else to do. I don't use too big money, and I don't play for a long time because that can lead me to use more money.

Perhaps, you can make a video about how to playing dice with many strategies so people, especially new people, know how to play dice games.
Dice I think, is a pure luck-based gambling game and no strategy would work in order to come up with the win. One thing I have realized in most of the gambling games is that, there are days which would be in favor to you but there are days that won't be yours. In short, luck plays a huge role in gambling. There are just people who are lucky enough to win big time, and often , but I do believe that strategy still, have only played a small role in the game. Because no matter how good you are to a game, if misfortune would be acquired, nothing good would happen.
Most newbies don't know that kind of strategy even though for us long time gambler it is the most basic strategy that we can execute on playing dice and other games. There are many gambling strategies all over the internet and most of it has common content. This is why making new strategies out of yourself or using different techniques or combining it may be effective in the dice game. I personally shuffling up the techniques I learn all over the dice experience I have. I proved that sticking up in one strategy can make you lose in the end, Gambling sites are sure aware of this techniques by the way.
Yes it is true sticking to one strategy would burn you out for the long run.
This is why I don't recommend any strategy to be used for a long period of time because it wouldn't always be effective.
The more strategy you know the better just like what you've said because we could always shuffle it.
The only game in which I would believe there are strategies working, are card games in which a gambler would be able to think in order to make out the most on his cards but still, luck is the bottomline. If you won't have the good cards, then losing is certain. So just enjoy the game, as is. And just practice self control because most of the time, losing is more certain in gambling.
1903  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Resist all temptation to fomo on: March 10, 2020, 03:56:20 PM
Every investor has their own way to earn peofit. Aome are just going with the 'flow', but for sure, they are aware of what they are doing. Investing into crypto would give you freedom to do so but be sure it won't lead to regret. If an investor would be carried away by the hype, then it is his choice and we should not blame them if they would invest on some alts in which in the eyes of the majority won't be profitable.

The market value of Bitcoin is anticipated to increase but that does not mean that there is certainty for the market value of altcoins to also increase or show parallelism. Although such thing happened before, we cannot be sure that that is what exactly would happen this 'time'. So if you are an investor do not be afraid and make your own decisions. Fomo is somewhat normal because you are conscious with what could happen to your money from investing. But you should deal with the risk, because it is investment you engaged yourself with in the first place.
1904  Economy / Speculation / Re: HODL HODL HODL...AND BUY MORE on: March 10, 2020, 03:15:58 PM
This is really a good opportunity to invest and earn profit eventually but not all people do get such logic in cryptoindustry not only in Bitcoin. Everytime there is a downfall, many people are panic selling, because they thought in such way they would get away from profit loss but the fact is, they got away from the opportunity to earn profit someday, once recovery start. An investor's responsibility is to just wait patiently because no one knows when will the uptrend occur, but one thing is for sure,  after a downfall in the price of Bitcoin, there is a huge possibility that its price will again increase, the only perk is to wait without certainty, but for me, that is not a big thing, because it would be worthy.
Yes, I have made my mind to buy some coins at this point of time. Crypto is giving again an opportunity to buy the dip and make some money when the price increases.

This is something an investor could be easier said than done. "buy low, sell high" right? I was wondering why there are still some investors complaining about their massive losses lol.
Anyway, we are all aware of this basic strategy, but it's just inevitable not to think and worry about when the price starts to decline continuously, like how the market is currently reacting today. This is where the weak hands losses their patience as well as their invested money.
Its never been an easy thing to be done, it might be so basic as it sounds but actually doing it is the hardest part as a trader.
We wont able to know on when is the right spot to accumulate and when is the right time to sell off. Profitability will somewhat vary
or depend on how people or investors do react into their current position. Buy and hodl doesnt work from time to time and even
bitcoin wont really give out such guarantee.
We just cannot blame those people who are selling early, and we should never do so. But we should otherwise remind them to HOLD and to wait patiently. Seeing market prices fall, is indeed stressful, so in some way, we should understand such instances.
Yes, I have made my mind to buy some coins at this point of time. Crypto is giving again an opportunity to buy the dip and make some money when the price increases, big whales have already started to buy coins from the panic sellers and they will make some big profits if the market go high. So guys keep in mind and plan accordingly.
Choose only those coins in which you have a feeling of a price increase in the future and avoid investing to any crypto that you would see. More likely, quality over quantity - kind of mindset.
1905  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to do due to the huge market collapse of the Bitcoin? on: March 10, 2020, 02:36:58 PM
This thread has no strong basis. The market price of Bitcoin have indeed reached $10000 but since then its market value did not fall as low as $6000. If I am not wrong it did not get pass $9000, open for correction. But to still answer the question, if ever the price will again crash, I would definitely invest half of my bank savings into it. I have regretted it before, not investing while the price is still low, I have missed the huge opportunity before to invest and earn huge profit. Also, I am aware that its price will fall often, due to its nature of volatility, therefore I do not panic in such times. There's really nothing to worry about because its market value will again increase the only downside is lack of assurance on how long will it take before recovery take place. So basically, it is a matter of waiting game.
1906  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I have some funds to invest-- How do I make a good decision? on: March 10, 2020, 12:45:32 PM
If you are planning to invest and yet, you are not that much familiar in crypto, it would be better to have your research first in order for you to have an initial idea of what you are engaging yourself with. To have a bigger chance of earning profit, invest only to those cryptos having 'huge names' in this industry such as Bitcoin, Ethereum, Ripple, and the likes. These coins are having bigger chances of recovery during downtrends due to the demand that these coins are getting.
You probably know what investment in cryptocurrency is all about,first you should know it's not a get rich quick scheme,now I think it will be best for you to invest in bitcoin and Ethereum. Then you take time to study some few altcoins to invest later,also you should have patience to hold whatever coin you are investing.
The idea of earning huge profit easily is the misconception in cryptocurrency. Risk should still be regarded because it is investment in the first place. Its market value moves more often compared to stocks, or real estate investments, which obviously gives more risk to an investor. Know also what are the things to mind. Many investors have gave up with the market volatility due to panic everytime the market prices are falling.
1907  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: March 9 2020, Start of Bearish Season on: March 10, 2020, 11:22:40 AM
Not as this early. People should stop fooling themselves, really. Many people are just making huge expectations , away from the reality. The market value is obviously falling at this moment. Slight recovery is not enough to say that bull run has already started. More likely, dumps should be more expected as the date of halving is getting near. And we should hope that after the halving, prices will start to increase. With that being said, investing as the market price is falling would be a good idea. No doubt that the bullish trend is just on its way, and is not happening at this very moment.
It is hard to say such information you provided up there might not help crypto. There is not the first time the crypto time will befall. It has not even reached the all-time low rate. The issue is that ones the price of bitcoin increases, most people will always think that is how it will continue to grow, not factor in some specific drawbacks such as the effect of Ponzi scheme and the highly proclaimed coronavirus. Crypto will certainly recover. It is high time to buy more.
Actually, on the graph provided by OP, it is obvious that there was just a slight upward movement. And if you would depply analyze the market behavior based on the information provided, it was dominated by decrease in its price. But that should not make us worried. It is more likely a part of the natural market volatility, and we should take advantage of what is currently happening, in particular with investing, since the price is still low, and could be lower.
1908  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will Ethereum be taking 1st place in 2020? on: March 10, 2020, 10:11:16 AM
Hard to believe that Ethereum would take the place of Bitcoin for being the top crypto knowing how huge the gap is between their market prices. Also, if we would observe at this moment, the market value of ethereum is falling more than Bitcoin's market value. Not to mention that there is an anticipated halving for this year which is expected to boost the market price of Bitcoin, its advantagr in this case. I believe that there is a chance for other cryptos to overtake Bitcoin but I doubt that it would be this year.
Ethereum has been steadily on the rise for a good while now, and this first half of Q1 2020 has proven that they have brought that same energy into the new decade. They have started 2020 with a bang, more than doubling in value in just 2 months.

There are quite a few factors that have come into play to make this a winning year for Ethereum and here are just a few: https://thecoinshark.net/en/5-reasons-why-ethereum-is-winning-in-2020/amp/

What do you think we can expect to see for the rest of the year?


In my opinion, too much time is needed for ethereum to be number 1 in terms of market cap value. Investors still trust Bitcoin as a long-term investment and the value of Bitcoin daily transactions is still far compared to ethereum
there is some reason why ethereum could not be number 1 in crypto market. simple example was ethereum supply that bigger than bitcoin and also ethereum has no scheme like bitcoin halving.  ethereum will stay on top 3 in market in my opinion  for long time or even another coin will replace ethereum place.
There was an increase in its market price before, same with Bitcoin but it was not able to do the 'overtake' because most of the cryptos' market value is parallel to the market price of Bitcoin. And with that being said, huge change is needed in order for a crypto to be able to take the spot of Bitcoin in this industry.
1909  Economy / Speculation / Re: Convert or HODL? on: March 10, 2020, 09:19:47 AM
If selling or converting would satisfy you as an investor, feel free to do so. But if you would seek for a better thing to do, it would be holding at this moment. There is an anticipated Bitcoin halving, which is believed to trigger an uptrend eventually. So if you do not want to miss the opportunity of earning huge profit by just being patient right now, you should not consider giving up as this early. The market drawback right now is just caused by the natural market volatility and there is totally nothing to be scared off.
Don't hesitate to hold bitcoin, because if you panic and convert to USDT and have bought when the price is below certain when the price of bitcoin rises you will regret, bitcoin has gone through a long bear market phase and I think holding is the right choice. Keep track of bitcoin price movements.
That is the problem to those people who are just into easily earned profit. There's no such thing in any investment. There will always be risk and your responsibility as an investor is to simply be patient and avoid actions that would harm your investment. Also, downfalls are not a new thing in this industry.
1910  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the terms you decide on which casino to play? on: March 10, 2020, 07:14:50 AM
Nothing that much because I do not usually move from one casino website to another. But my criteria to where would I play is popularity and promotions but promotions do play a bigger role. There are many gambling sites existing in online gambling industry, and choosing would be a bit hard for the new ones. I based on gambling sites that would give me the privilege to make the most out of my money. There are discounts being offered such as free spins and less cost to 'combos' a gambler could avail.
like what you said there are now over 1000k online casino online  therfor it isnt an easy task to choose from because there are also many good casinos old and new    .

 old casinos are known for their robust security while new casinos are known for thier new features  but of course this can changed too overtime  . the more the better like what they said ,  that is why i like if a casino is full pack with everything including on the factors that you listed above  . i still choose the older one still if ever sites are closer/simillar to earch other  .
But we cannot really get everything we would want to within a single gambling website because a gambling site could not give it all because the house would lose in such way. The competition is for gambling sites are selecting of things that they could offer that won't give them profit loss, and at the same time, would get the interest of the players.
Having positive reviews are my main criteria but what about if the site is new? Aside from if they were able to prove that they are licensed and can be trustworthy, there are the specific feature that I want to see that I honestly don't know what exactly is that. It means if I found something catchy on that site, I will definitely try and test it.

For example,

Crazy fast deposit and withdraw as claimed by other users.
I saw a wagering requirement that somehow easy to achieve, I will test it.
I saw a gambling game that has interesting gameplay, I will test it.
I know the overall gameplay of a certain game so I will test and see if my knowledge will be my advantage.

and many more.
Positive review would really be a huge help given that there are gambling sites reported to be a fraud and scam. One player basically won't be aware of the scheme unless he have experienced it.
1911  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is this Right Time to buy Some ALT coins? on: March 09, 2020, 06:57:47 PM
It depends on the altcoins that you are engaging yourself with. Not all cryptos would be profitable to invest at this 'crucial' moment. There is an anticipated halving, which is also believed to increase the price of Bitcoin and as well as other cryptos due to the parallelism on their market prices. But due to lack of assuranc eof the market price increase in the first place, as well as to its influence to the altcoin market value, waiting for the right time would be a better thing to do. Investing while the price is still low, would be a good idea but since no one knows which altcoin would be most profitable to invest, waiting a little longer until signs of recovery exist, would be a better idea.

Whether this is the right time to invest or not, it does depend on the investor. If he could afford investing at this point, then it is a good idea, but if he is afraid to risk, waiting would be better. It is too early still to make decisions. Adjustments still are being observed and there's nothing wrong on making the most out of your money to invest. But if you are ready for the risks, investing at this moment would be an advantage. The prices are still low, and once recovery occur, you know what is about to be earned.
1912  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you stop gambling in a time of crisis? on: March 09, 2020, 06:15:23 PM
Well, I would probably stop playing because I would mind things that would matter more. A crisis is a time wherein an individual would choose to do the most in particular with survival. So maybe, gambling won't be prioritized by gamblers and what would matter the most are things that would practically help one person to survive such crisis. At times of difficulties, I believe that things related to money won't be given importance by people more , on  things that would help them to live, literally. Money could be invaluable if a crisis is that bad. Just think of those instances wherein wars are occuring. Money won't save you at such times, as well as activities related to it.
1913  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is Ethereum going back to under 200$? on: March 09, 2020, 05:45:36 PM
A market value of $200 won't be a problem if and only if there will be an uptrend. The market price at this moment is not as promising as before but who knows, if there will be an uptend to happen evenutally, such market value could be reached. But for now, waiting is all we can do. Investing would also be a good idea since it is ethereum that we are talking about, which is a promising altcoin. The market price of ethereum at this moment is not that far from such value and we may hope that once uptrend occur, ethereum could be again a profitable investment.
(-11.47%) Down. Let it goes down to $120-150 in couple of days. Then the buy time will come, buy at $150 and wait till July or august for ethereum 2.0 launch. The price will increase after July and August. Keep patience as ethereum price grows slowly and decreases fastly.

ethereum is indeed currently experiencing a decline, but if we compare at the same date and month last year, actually ethereum is not bad. actually there is a significant increase. because last year it was under $ 150 but now it still survives and doesn't drop below $ 200. if you want to see bitcoin and other altacoin also in red.

It is not only ethereum which is experiencing a market price decline but also other cryptos such as Bitcoin. We may assume that it is because of the anticipated halving which affects not only the price of Bitcoin but also, other cryptos. If ever the expectations will be met, an uptrend could occur possibly after the halving. But since we are lacking hundred percent assurance, investing at this point to ethereum is a more advisable thing to do, given how promising ethereum is.
(-11.47%) Down. Let it goes down to $120-150 in couple of days. Then the buy time will come, buy at $150 and wait till July or august for ethereum 2.0 launch. The price will increase after July and August. Keep patience as ethereum price grows slowly and decreases fastly.
This should not be a disadvantage. If you are not new in this industry, you should take the decrease on cryptos price as an opportunity to invest. Ethereum have proved itself from many drawbacks in its price, and chances are high that it will again increase once the market situation be in favor to us.
1914  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Can Bitcoin and Altcoins bullish together on: March 09, 2020, 03:53:55 PM
Based on what we have witneesed on the previous bullruns(paritucularly last two years), they did show parallelism. The moment wherein the market price of Bitcoin reached its ATH, the market price of most altcoins have also increased, same thing happened after the correction to both parties. But I am not sure if same thing would happen on the next bull run because the market prices of cryptos seemed to be having mo relationships after the corrections. Things could be different if ever there will be again an uprise.
I think ALTS heavily depends on the BTC market. From past history, we have seen that when bitcoin crash alts crash too and it happens often in the market. BTC has dominance over the crypto world and it's still holding its 1st place. So if someone manages to find a way to predict btc movements he could gain the knowledge of other market movements also.
This is what more likely to be observed especially if we would base on the previous situations on this industry. But I am depending on the fact that cryptocurrencies are independent with each other. The direct proportional movement of the market prices of cryptos were possibly brought by coincidence or the market behavior itself, and there are no concrete basis with regards to what hapoened before. So maybe, we could see a different outcome for the next uptrend.
1915  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin is supposed to go up of this corona! people are doing it wrong on: March 09, 2020, 03:25:11 PM
The health related 'crisis' has nothing to do with the market price of Bitcoin, let that sink in. But it wouls have a possibility to void the usage of Bitcoin once the situation get worse. How? If the crisis would be more intensified it would cause havoc. Familiar with what happens to movies? People would tend to no longer give importance to money if ever such thing would happen. It will be a matter of survival, but let us hope we won't get to such scenario. When it comes to the market price, we have observed at the moment when NCoV arose, no changes were made in the prices of cryptos including Bitcoin. This shimply shows lack of relationship between these two variables. People should really cut these assumptions.
1916  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we going to see another PANIC on: March 09, 2020, 02:02:49 PM
People should stop manking it a habit to oanic everytime the market price is falling. For this year, there are only two possibilities, feel free to correct me, why the market price of Bitcoin is falling at this moment. Itcould be because of the natural market vokatility or the preparation for the bitcoin halving. Based from what I have read before, the price would fall as the day of halving is getting near. Also, we should look at the decrease in its price as an opportunity to invest because once the uprise occur, profit will surely be earned by those who are patient.
Panic or not, am not going against my wishes because, the halving is almost here and the whales are taking this opportunity to accumulate to themselves more coins before the halve. Sellers who are inpatients are those who derives pleasure in selling against their wishes  because its not everyone wishes to sell when the market is down. This is a well known tactics from the whales whenever they need to take profit from the weak hands holding Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency, for me am not panic at this junction close to halving
This is the right thing to do which is to be optimistic because it would save you from hasty decisions. Also, this is not the right time we are seeing market price downfall, actually, it happens often in this industry an not only to Bitcoin but to all cryptos. It should not be something new. Those who are selling are those who are more likely just after easy profit. Just be patient for now and wait for the right time to invest and sell because we are talking about investment here, wherein actions should be done with care.
1917  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will 2020 be the year of Litecoin? on: March 09, 2020, 12:28:13 PM
Making an assumption as this early, I think, won't be valid. The price of Litecoin at this very moment is not showing signs unlike in Bitcoin wherein it was able to reach half of its ATH before. Maybe it is too early. Litecoin is indeed one of the promising altcoins out there but maybe, it is just the market situation still, which makes it hard for cryptos to recover from the drawbacks and corrections happened on the previous years. This year is more likely to be in favor for Bitcoin due to the anticipated Bitcoin halving that is believed to boost its market price, reaching new all time high. But even if it is more expected to be Bitcoin's year, we still has no assurance of such things unless it actually happen.
1918  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's End Game on: March 09, 2020, 12:05:16 PM
There is a possibility for auch thing but as we can see, Bitcoin have grown way too much to just vanish because of a new crypto. It have established wide range of users and they might refrain from engaging to a 'new' one especially those who are seeking profit, if Bitcoin would appear to be more profitable. Crypto has left an image not being a digital currency but as a mode of investment. If it is convenience brought by digital currencies, people may more likely just engage into existing online banking which is currently being used in online services.

Bitcoin won't die, and I see positive signs proving this point of view. Indian court case was a big event for crypto industry. Moreover, some governments own a huge amounts of Bitcoin. + One more argument, technologies are developing much faster than regulations. If Bitcoin was banned one day, we would easily switch to privacy coins.
If this industry, not only Bitcoin, would seek for further improvements, it won't come to its end. There are just minor issues existing in this industry which make those countries who are not adapting blockchain technology, to do so. And if progress will be continuous, such 'issues' could be aided which will prolong the life of Bitcoin and could possibly result to wider adaptation in the future.
1919  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction threads on: March 09, 2020, 11:19:28 AM
If they are engaging into different topics here in this forum, for sure they will be affected with those topics because they may somewhat reflect on the subject matter being talked about. It will not only affect those who are akready addicted but those who are showing symptoms of addictions. They might be able to cut the stigma if ever they would be able to read such topics, because reflection to oneself is an important thing not only in gambling but to most of the things that you engage yourself with.
lol what i thought is that your against with those threads and your now sick of seeing them but i was wrong because after opening your thread i see that your giving credits to those gambling addiction thread . good for you  .

 with so many related threads about them who will not possibly learn from it ? as long as your sincere reading every important details on those thread  , the words will stick up on your head and you will prolly apply it so that you wont repeat the same mistake again  .
I actually assumed that this is a rant such as to those threads correlating corona virus and movent of the price of Bitcoin. Actually, it is still depening to those people tehmselves, whether they would allow themselves to be affected and would insist for a change in their gambling routine in order to not be classified to "addiction".
I find strategy of others on how they managed to control themselves, how they overcome addiction from those threads that I've read really helpful. I'm not a heavy gambler but it's all about the emotion when I'm near to what I know where I'm heading.

I'm realizing that if I will not be careful with myself, I might end up worse just like what has been shared from those threads. So, I also take it as a motivation and a reminder to make myself calm.
To put it simply, those threads are not only limited to those who are already labeled as a 'gambling addict' but also to those who are also prone of being 'one' with the said group of people, because of potentialities due to their exposure with such activity. Reflection is really something, because sometimes, professional advice won't work if you won't allow yourself to be consumed by those advice. Simplu putting that it will be yourself at the end of the day, who would make a change for yourself.
1920  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to survive if you lose more than 80% of your Capital? on: March 09, 2020, 10:43:53 AM
Holding would be the only way in order to survive from the losses. Choosing to sell at this moment will permanently cut down the loss as well as the opportunity to again earn profit. To lessen your worry, be practical, observe that the amount of Bitcoin is still the same and it is just the market price which is low at this moment. Once the uptrend occur, same thing could happen to your holdings. You may also consider investing at this moment because the price is still low, which is a good opportunity to invest, given that there is an anticipated occurence of halving, believed to again trigger a bullish run.
I only regret it a little because I believe too much in predictions when 2018 bullrun will still occur, and finally at the end of the year ATL occurs in crypto. And from now on I start to believe in the tokens that I hold because someday it will definitely touch ATH again or at least provide enough ROI for me.
Many people felt the same way. Such happening simply proved that expecting too much is not a good thing especially int this industry. Many people expected that the increase will be continuous and that the price will just keep on increasing, at that moment. But when correction occured, many are filled with regrets, some even quit because the market price was 'down' for more than a year, and it was just this year that it again showed signs of recovery.
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