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19181  Economy / Gambling / Re: Proving that my gambling script works. on: March 02, 2018, 08:05:40 PM
personally I sent alia 0.01 btc two times and she was able to profit for me , but I can't believe the script thing
The only thing that made me send money is that I will either win a little more btc or I will get a cam show , but I'm 100% sure that the script won't work in the long run
I mean personally if I know such thing I wouldn't sell it , why to sell a gold mine especially if it's an exploit !!

Did you see him gambling with your coins? Because I can promise you better ROI if you send me some coins too. I will return 200% to some people, get some big investments going and then off I go with the funds. It's called a ponzi.
I am going to refer to the OP as a 'he' because it's obvious by the used gamer's lingo that he is probably a male in his teenage years.

op is a she , she had a service where you send your money and she gambles
if she won she takes a portion and send you your capital + a profit , and if she lost you can get a cam show with her and she gets naked
so it was a good idea but she decided to close it and to sell the script instead which I don't like

Even before alia closing the previous "deal" it sounds like a kind of ponzi scheme that involved paying off of older subscribers with new ones - and perhaps once in a while doing a supposedly debt paying (or "free") cam show to have all her bases covered for hard dicks that might appreciate losing the bets just to get the "free" cam show... hahahahaha..

What a great scheming idea from alia the boy or girl (or man or woman) that gets BTC_Talk forum guys to think with their little heads rather than their big ones.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  Gotta see some humor in some of this, no?
19182  Economy / Gambling / Re: Proving that my gambling script works. on: March 02, 2018, 07:58:14 PM
I've maintained throughout that the script has a 90% chance of winning and 10% chance of failure... I don't want to risk 1 BTC on a 10% chance of failure, simple as that. The ROI is currently being proved daily anyway

Back atcha:  If the script wins 90% of the time and has positive ROI over time, then you shouldn稚 worry about risking 1 BTC.  ROI, yes?  You値l make it back, then make more.  Just like your investors.

You really can't read, can you? It is EV-. EV-. That is the opposite of what you said. It brings profit 9/10 times, but even if that one time is a loss, it's a big loss. Over an infinite amount of time the script will make losses, like ALL gambling methods.

So what the hell did you prove then? That it works by not working? '' I have this strategy that works for gambling '' It works by losing in the long term?

Guess, this proves nothing.

"infinite amount of time the script will make losses, like ALL gambling methods" which includes whatever OP is offering. That also results to the fact that they have admitted the script will not work 100% of the time and will likely result to losses in the end. Guess this debunks the proof OP is offering.

I am really skeptical of any online gambling against a gambling website algorithm except perhaps if they are almost 100% transparent with their algorithm, then perhaps mathematically you could figure out a loophole way of beating it, but I find it implausible that the algorithm would be 100% transparent (maybe someone could point out examples of gambling sites with 100% transparent algorithms to show that i am wrong with my assertion).

So let's assume that the gambling site is amongst the most generous, and they only give 2% to the house - which would then create a 4% spread  - accordingly the house has a 52% of winning and the player has a 48% chance.

Any script should then narrow that gap to make the odds greater for the player, perhaps even shifting the odds in favor of the player.  Somehow it should be provable that the script accomplishes what it claims, and if the seller of the script cannot at least describe how the script improves odds for the player, then the seller of the script is selling snake oil, no?  

I understand that the methodology of a script and mathematics can become quite complicated, so sometimes, the explanation for how the script shifts odds in more favorable for the player might not be understandable by everyone, and therefore it could require a certain high level of mathematical knowledge to understand how the script is increasing odds in favor of the play (presumably the on buying the script).

It seems that in this case, alia is all over the place asserting the conclusion that the script works, but not really ready, willing or able to explain with any kind of specifics how the script supposedly accomplishes what she proclaims it to accomplish.  


Edit:

I do appreciate the mathematical discussion in o_e_l_e_o's above post that also refers back to RGBKey's discussion of the odds of 20% win with a house that supposedly has only 1% odds in it's favor.  No matter what, there would need to be some demonstration from alia regarding either how her script narrows the odds to be more in favor of the player to actually show that in a decently long and statistically significant test... so yeah, I agree running the script for a short period does not prove anything, and even alia's currently poor credibility status would cause some skepticism whether she is actually employing neutral testing grounds... it is almost like a neutral 3rd party would have to run the script for a statistically significant period of time to show how it performs compared with no script, and even that?Huh who has fucking time for attempting to empirically proving something one direction or another, merely for the sake of possibly redeeming some of alia's seemingly shot reputation.
19183  Economy / Reputation / Re: alia merited permabanned ban evader & sockpuppeteer amine14madrid (*suspicious*) on: March 02, 2018, 04:24:25 AM
So. If a user Skypes me and verifies my identity, I can magically steal theirs! Because fuck logic

I didn't say anything about stealing identity, you're twisting it again. Learning someone's identity and stealing it (i.e. impersonating) is not the same.

And yes, if e.g. I would skype you, you could learn my identity. I think you even admitted yourself somewhere in this whole shitshow that Skype is not good for anonymity, I just can't be arsed to find it now. So no reasonable person would do it and you know that. You're just looking for idiots now or playing some game where you'll claim a win because no one else wanted to participate.

Jesus... I meant a one-way Skype call, retard.

A one-way call might be one in which you and your brother would be on camera, and the forum member calling you would not be on camera, right?  

The only verification of identity (or attempt to accomplish such) would be for you to answer various questions (and show various things, perhaps?) in a live kind of format.  

At this point, do you really believe that any attempt at video verification process would even be useful to clarify anything in your favor, because there seems to be so much damning information out there about you that pretty much establishes that you could not be who you claim to be (innocent 19 year old college girl with a 15 year old brother living under the same roof).  You just seem to come off as way too sophisticated and worldly experienced to be able to also fit the innocent girl status.

If I'm sophisticated and have lots of worldly experience, that makes me 15 y/o boy and not a 19 y/o girl. Best. Logic.

Yes, that is EXACTLY the kind of Skype call I want.

Well, at least that clarifies what you had meant by "one-way", but I question whether you have not dug yourself in so deeply into a large number of seemingly contradictory assertions and even outrageous slandering of other forum members that such an identity verification process, if it were to occur, or if any trusted forum member would be willing to agree to such, would help you in any way.  

Currently you have 11 negative trusts from trusted members, and some of those negatives would likely not even resolve if you were able to pull off a successful identity verification video interview, if one were to occur.   I mean the trusted members seem to be very very very (and maybe even more veries) repelled by your contradictory and aggressive conduct.  Surely, each of those trusted members would need to be satisfied that your reputation could be redeemed (somewhat) through such an identity verification video move...   Seems like half or nearly half  of those negative taggers have asserted that a video verification with you would be a BIG ASS waste of time.  Right?   Seems like spinning wheels, no?  

Sophisticated comes from age, experience and education and is not really an age or gender matter, but whatever your combination does not add up and seems to be unduly contradictory, whether that is 15 year old boy or 19 year old girl or some other demographic category.
19184  Economy / Reputation / Re: alia merited permabanned ban evader & sockpuppeteer amine14madrid (*suspicious*) on: March 02, 2018, 04:01:25 AM
So. If a user Skypes me and verifies my identity, I can magically steal theirs! Because fuck logic

I didn't say anything about stealing identity, you're twisting it again. Learning someone's identity and stealing it (i.e. impersonating) is not the same.

And yes, if e.g. I would skype you, you could learn my identity. I think you even admitted yourself somewhere in this whole shitshow that Skype is not good for anonymity, I just can't be arsed to find it now. So no reasonable person would do it and you know that. You're just looking for idiots now or playing some game where you'll claim a win because no one else wanted to participate.

Jesus... I meant a one-way Skype call, retard.

A one-way call might be one in which you and your brother would be on camera, and the forum member calling you would not be on camera, right? 

The only verification of identity (or attempt to accomplish such) would be for you to answer various questions (and show various things, perhaps?) in a live kind of format. 

At this point, do you really believe that any attempt at video verification process would even be useful to clarify anything in your favor, because there seems to be so much damning information out there about you that pretty much establishes that you could not be who you claim to be (innocent 19 year old college girl with a 15 year old brother living under the same roof).  You just seem to come off as way too sophisticated and worldly experienced to be able to also fit the innocent girl status.
19185  Economy / Reputation / Re: alia merited permabanned ban evader & sockpuppeteer amine14madrid (*suspicious*) on: March 02, 2018, 03:29:42 AM
Jeez. I noticed that account in theymos's red trust, thought it was funny, gave it merit. Don't read into it too much. I'm sure theymos can IP check.

Also, if you guys still believe I am a scammer, even after I repaid aTriz $2,000 even after he broke the contract then you are all braindead. RIP

Ms. Zombie Horse,

as it has been explained in my PM to you, and also much more eloquently by ibminer two posts above, you're a scammer for reasons that have nothing to do with aTriz.

A bank robber who donates to a charity is still a bank robber.

Please use fewer fallacies and less whining in your next bank robbery scam attempt.

Thanks.
--sm.

You should have a slogan for ur selfie, Sm.... that is: "I am helping scammers to scam moar gooder.. one scammer at a time."   Wink  Cheesy
19186  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 02, 2018, 03:07:32 AM

I am expecting for more than that, i want to recover my loses because i start investing in bitcoin when the value is $12100. But i have small investment when the value of bitcoin is @$8700. That is why almost my loses was recovered but still i want more to gain much huge profit.


Patience you must have, grasshopper.


19187  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 02, 2018, 01:57:31 AM
I知 not a believer until $11,200



You gotta think BIGGER than that.  $11,200 is cake... or easie peasie.

Let me see breaking above $12k before I begin to believe - It may take a day or two to get to $12k-ish, if we are going there, and then breaking above would be a decent sign of UP.



C'mon guys... do u rally believe the bear market is over? Just because we're on the edge of our channel?

Dreamers  Tongue (or even believers)

I don't think that we are saying anything beyond  BTC prices moving beyond short term resistance points, and usually when we get breaks past resistance points, then we get additional UP from there without as much resistance, but I think that a lot of folks (at least the more bullish posters) in this thread have been inclined to believe that we are more likely in an early 2013 scenario rather than an early 2014 situation.  So what are you proposing or predicting, besides trying to make it appear that we are saying more than we are and twisting around the concept of dream/believe?
19188  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2018, 10:11:02 PM
I知 not a believer until $11,200


You gotta think BIGGER than that.  $11,200 is cake... or easie peasie.

Let me see breaking above $12k before I begin to believe - It may take a day or two to get to $12k-ish, if we are going there, and then breaking above would be a decent sign of UP.


Since when have you been a bear?

$11,200 to me means the downtrend has been convincingly broken.  I have not even begun to think about $12k.  That is a problem for another day.   

The kettle is starting to warm up though.   I am beginning to see that we might get there. But not yet.

I did not realize what I was saying was bearish..  but I can see your point.

 I thought that I was being more bullish than you to assert $11,200 as a given, but really I don't know.  The longer that we bounce around between $8,500 and $12k then the price could go either way.. so maybe I am thinking that we need to break above $12,000, so yeah in that regard, I am more bearish than you because I don't think that breaking above $11,200 really provides any kind of certainty that we have sufficiently broken up to feel comfortable in having MOAR UP.. I think that we need a higher break up in order to feel relieved of such bearishness. 

By the way, a couple of weeks ago, when we first broke back above $10k, I thought that was a decently bullish sign that there remains considerable difficulties in asserting that we are in an early 2014 scenario rather than the more likely early 2013 scenario... which still seems to be my thinking about what we currently have (i mean more likely that we are in an early 2013 like scenario currently rather than an early 2014 like scenario).
19189  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2018, 10:00:43 PM
If we can get to ~$11,600, the inverse H&S will be complete. That should get us at least to the major resistance at ~$12,800.


Is there a difference between an inverse head and shoulders and a cup and handle in terms of what it expects to come next?  Are they both short term bullish?  Anyone?
19190  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2018, 09:05:19 PM
I知 not a believer until $11,200


You gotta think BIGGER than that.  $11,200 is cake... or easie peasie.

Let me see breaking above $12k before I begin to believe - It may take a day or two to get to $12k-ish, if we are going there, and then breaking above would be a decent sign of UP.
19191  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2018, 08:13:46 PM
wordy man can do the lyrics...

Best. Idea. Ever.



Helrow.

Does my avatar look lyricistical?   Roll Eyes
19192  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2018, 10:30:40 AM
Another break out.  I知 not convinced - am calling bull trap. 

https://preview.ibb.co/h3K7kx/C182_D1_DF_31_E2_401_A_821_C_B2423_F4_ABCB7.png[/img]

Party poop!
19193  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: March 01, 2018, 09:50:37 AM
I have no merit click Sad what will i do ?? there's no merit

You could cry, and write short shitty posts about not having merit?

You could also engage in a lot of bounty seeking activities, and maybe attend religious ceremonies to pray for merit?

If I were you, I would not attempt to create good and engaging posts or otherwise participate in substantive threads to help other members because that may end up earning merit.  Just keep doing what you have been doing and that way you don't have to be worried about receiving any merit to weigh you down.   Wink Cheesy

It's not that easy to get merit when he obviously lacks English proficiency.

People who write substantive, important posts are usually proficient in english. And the ones who aren't usually try, but probably don't get merit because of the bias between their language barrier and native speakers.

I feel as though that's a problem on bitcointalk, tbh. It's like an invisible ceiling that, no matter how active a foreign speaker gets, they'll not be able to advance because it's harder for them to get merits.

Before I posted, I did a quick review of his posts, and there are a lot of shitty ones, and yeah some in other languages, and bounty seeking and other one-liners in English.  If he wants to rank up then he needs to participate in English and to improve his English skills. 

Sure, it is possible that he could receive some merits on the local boards, too, but the way the system is now, seems to be biased in favor of making good English posts, as you recognize.  I doubt that is going to change any time soon, but hey, it is possible that Theymos will attempt to ensure that there are some merit sources who are participating in some of the local boards - to the extent that Theymos may be able recognize members who may be good in that regard or highly recommended by a trusted member to be good to become a merit source.
19194  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why I think User "alia" is a (potential) scammer? User "aTriz" maybe involved! on: March 01, 2018, 09:21:42 AM
This is why I'm still a virgin, looking for some orphan runaway girl to slap her and then take her home. (I'm actually telling the truth here, we have these cases, where people would intimidate a runaway girl to do their dirty works, I'm in law enforcements. busting beggars and street girls and prostitutes, yet I'm still a virgin).

Do you have any hobby in which you can meet regular girls? 

Or if you go to church, but I don't really agree with going to church, even though it could be a decent place to meet girls, but maybe not DTF girls..? hahahahaha.  Although, frequently even seemingly shy girls will be willing to do a lot as long as you push it and you have something to offer, such as an interesting personality or some kind of mutual hobby.

For example, if you take up dancing as a hobby (partner dancing), then maybe you can meet girls through that - or some other ways, besides on the job.  Sometimes too, your hobby may partly depend on whether you are in a big city or not or the geographical area where you are concerning how easy it is to meet girls and preferably DTF girls.
tinder?

I edited my above response, and I don't really endorse meeting girls like that, but I suppose it could be done.. My edits were meant to attempt to make my response a bit closer related to the topic of the thread.. I mean does anyone really want to meet an interweb girl and then attempt to reform her and then just have a kind of business relationship and then in the end you question whether she really is a she and what other baggage that she might have in the interpersonal skills arena?
19195  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why I think User "alia" is a (potential) scammer? User "aTriz" maybe involved! on: March 01, 2018, 09:04:08 AM
This is why I'm still a virgin, looking for some orphan runaway girl to slap her and then take her home. (I'm actually telling the truth here, we have these cases, where people would intimidate a runaway girl to do their dirty works, I'm in law enforcements. busting beggars and street girls and prostitutes, yet I'm still a virgin).

Well, yeah, we don't really want to be meeting girls online, even though a lot of girls, these days spend time online.

Also, meeting any girl in a business like relationship is probably not good either for resolving your virginity issue.

 Do you have any hobby in which you can meet regular and local girls besides the internet?   Yeah, meeting over the webs does not necessarily make for easy logistics, geographically speaking.

Or if you go to church then you can see some live girls, but I don't really agree with going to church, even though it could be a decent place to meet actual real girls, but maybe not DTF girls..? hahahahaha.  Although, frequently even seemingly shy girls will be willing to do a lot of passionate and intimate things as long as you push your own agenda in a way that is acceptable and you have something to offer, such as an interesting personality or some kind of mutual hobby.

For example, if you take up dancing as a hobby (partner dancing), then maybe you can meet girls through that - or some other ways, besides on the job meeting of "working girls" is not a seemingly good way to meet DTF girls.  Sometimes too, your hobby may partly depend on whether you are in a big city or not or the geographical area where you are concerning how easy it is to meet girls and preferably DTF girls... if you have prostitutes in your city than I suppose that it is BIG enough to have other activities, too, correct?

I am having my doubts whether alia is even a girl, so she might not be very helpful in this regard... she just seems to be decent at business items, and probably it is not good to find a girl like that, even assuming she is a girl.
19196  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why I think User "alia" is a (potential) scammer? User "aTriz" maybe involved! on: March 01, 2018, 07:13:20 AM
Ok, I only read the first page of this so far, but what OP has is a suspicion that alia is scamming because her items keep getting "sold" once she's asked for a picture.  aTriz is being linked to this because of this odd 3 year contract for signature advertising.   Is that it in a nutshell?  

I do find this contract strange, since it wasn't too long ago thar aTriz was looking for very high ranked, trusted members for an exclusive campaign of his--and then he does a deal with this relative unknown.   But aTriz has always been honest and very polite and kind in his dealings with me.  True, you never know what lies beneath, but I still trust him.  I've been in his campaigns before, and he's been entrusted with large amounts of bitcoin--and he always paid on-time and accurately.  

Plus I don't see a full scam on alia's part, though her behavior is somewhat suspicious.   I'll keep reading this thread, but my positive trust for aTriz will stand.

And there is this one to add more drama:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032057.msg31202695#msg31202695

....and even not only scamming:



The contract is not void, and there is no chance of it becoming void for a long, long time. It will likely become void if/when I am not Legendary after 3 years, but that remains to be seen. I would advise aTriz not to try and "wriggle out" of the contract, because it puts me in a position where I will be forced to reveal certain things that he has done. If he sticks to the terms of the contract, as stipulated, he is my friend, and he will not be my enemy. Being my enemy is not a very favourable position for anyone to be in. Roll Eyes
That's an extortion attempt...

No extortion attempts, actually. Just a statement that I do not take contract-breaking lightly

It seems that your various attempts to explain your position and to justify your stick-to-it'ness whether the contract terms with aTriz or your ongoing truth defying representations could assist you to break the BCT_talk forum negative trust record, perhaps?  Your on a kind of roll, no?
19197  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: March 01, 2018, 04:24:42 AM
I have no merit click Sad what will i do ?? there's no merit

You could cry, and write short shitty posts about not having merit?

You could also engage in a lot of bounty seeking activities, and maybe attend religious ceremonies to pray for merit?

If I were you, I would not attempt to create good and engaging posts or otherwise participate in substantive threads to help other members because that may end up earning merit.  Just keep doing what you have been doing and that way you don't have to be worried about receiving any merit to weigh you down.   Wink Cheesy
19198  Economy / Reputation / Re: Can you still believe aTriz words? on: March 01, 2018, 03:47:52 AM
[edited out]

Your best bet (pun intended) now would be to shut your trap and try to salvage your deal with aTriz instead of trying to prove you're not a scammer. That train has sailed.

Hahahahahaha

Better said than me.
19199  Economy / Reputation / Re: Can you still believe aTriz words? on: March 01, 2018, 03:43:47 AM
Nice try alia.

At first I did not think you were 19, but I am leaning that way now.

In the US the highway speed limits are 45mph to 70mph.  45-70 means just that, you can't go 100mph, you violate the rule.

Technically, if you post more than 100 times in a month you have breached the terms. Your contract specifically states it, it does not state at least 30, it states 30-100, a clear, specific range outside of which you violate terms.

Pay him back.




Thanks for proving my point!

In your scenario, speeding is the danger. In my scenario, underposting is the danger. Roll Eyes

There do seem to be several reasonable justifications for aTriz to currently get out of the signature contract, and one of them is the post quantity question.  Another is the degree of red trust that you have received.  Another is the covenant of good faith and fair dealings and possible fraud in terms of whether there is any way that he could get what he thought he was getting out of the contract when there is a decent chance that you are misrepresenting on your end to such a high level that aTriz was mislead in terms of your ability to contract or to carry out the terms of the contract on your end so that he could get the benefits of the bargain.

So one thing is aTriz getting out of making further payments to you, and another thing is if he currently is entitled to a refund for the amount that he had already paid. 

Even in a scenario favorable to you if aTriz were to conclude that you were not clearly enough in breach on your end or that the contract is not otherwise invalid, in good faith, aTriz could decide to make any future payments into an escrow, because, in spite of your oral assertions, the odds of you reaching Legendary status within three years seem like a stretch into the implausible.  Furthermore, there could be some chance that your account becomes banned or suspended for extended periods of time, too, which seems to be an administrative discretionary matter, too under circumstances like this.

So perhaps a decent compromise would be for you to enter into some kind of voluntary bilateral dissolution of the contract with aTriz, in case aTriz would be interested in such a dissolution, and perhaps there would be some friendly terms that could involve your ability to keep some or all of the payment that aTriz already made to you?  Some kind of agreement or arrangement by you might at least save you from receiving some additional not yet administered red trust.
19200  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2018, 01:08:11 AM
You better get woke that retirement does not relieve you of all responsibilities.

Yeah yeah, wordy-man. I set my alarm for 4:45pm and got him to his appt @ 5:30pm.

He's recovering very well, thanks ! We caught the pneumonia so quickly, they were not able to definitively diagnose if it was bacterial or aspirate induced (as a result of giving him oral meds).

A set of shots tomorrow, another set of shots on Friday, along with an x-ray, and he should be fully recovered.

ARE YOU FUCKING HAPPY NOW ?!

Let me see if I can put this response from me to you as tersely as humanly doable under these very circumstances for uie, uie, uie (and ur cat and ur partner), which is not an easy endeavor for some kind of peeps who shall remain without labels (at least from my perspective)...

I can read between your lines of your above response and from my vast experiences, I can see what is going on.. which is that I do recognize that you are NOT treating kitty dee caty, very responsibly, prudently nor within kitty caty standards of due care, diligence nor lovingly, and for your own attention span and seeming online interests, it may be MOAR gooder to LET KITTYcaty THE FUCK GO, and invest ur gay selfie into some kryptokitties, which seem to be more in line with your recently developing new interwebbie and cybernettie focuses.

Furthermore, based on my further readings of the situation (and my intuition, too) you seem to be WAY TOO MUCHIe Overstressed, and you need to:

CALM


THE


FUCK


DOWN

!!!!!!!!!!  
 

Angry Angry Angry Angry


Disclaimer, in the event of a proper titling of this section of my response to you.  Please NOTE:  I already know and recognize base on my fairly decently long life experiences and viewing of the situations of others on the interwebs and in real life that affirmatively asserting that some peep, such as ur selfie to, "calm the fuck down" is very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very therapeutic in the stress-relieving direction, so you can thank me later for that, and maybe even send me the bitcoin difference between your old psychiatric bill and the new reduced one..    We could call that a tip, a gift or something else, and I am not completely sure about how to treat such transfer of value from you to me for purposes of tax purposes, so try to keep your value trajectory into my direction under $10k (like $9,999.50 may be reasonably reduced, and I will figure out how to handle the situay during 2019 tax season.    And, by the way, don't try to send me any kind of crypto other than bitcoin.. because my signature and little blurb below my avatar speaks volumes of dee truthie about what really matters in this crypto world and these crypto tymes and that beeeee  deee bitcoins. Wink Wink    Tongue Tongue
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