Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam!

[magneto]

I notice this thread last night and while I did find it this thread to be very interesting, I want to ask clarification about alia "brother".

Why did your "brother" offer a "hot girl vid/pic service" claiming to be a 18 year old girl if hes not a girl, and not 18? (http://archive.is/tt836#selection-6289.0-6321.15) I honestly do not really buy the whole "brother" thing but if it is proven to be true that you have a brother and you two arent actors on skype (assuming someone would go that length to validate anything, which I doubt), then would that also prove that your "brother" is a scammer? I just find it a bit odd that
favours would claim to be a girl but youre stating hes your brother.

Lol. So Alia’s brother was lying about his identity also, and alia says that there has been no wrongdoings.

I doubt a Skype call would work at all. If there were people that actually watched your cam model on video then it means that you’re going to continue to hire the same model in an attempt of “verifying yourself”.

Just refund atriz, if you ask anyone, you will not be legendary by the end of the term. Atriz probably doesn’t care about that sort of money but your attitude when you’re clearly exposed and there is tons of evidence somehow is that we have no proof? Wtf.

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[OgNasty]

Atriz probably doesn’t care about that sort of money

Well, he was shilling for a gambling script until the scammer behind it was exposed and taking out loans as small as 0.1 BTC.  If that doesn't scream warning signals, I don't know what would.

[nullius]

[This was written earlier, in a text editor as usual, just as the thread was being locked.  Now, I can post it..]
The reason for which I needed to check Alia’s trust page:

I have handled >10 BTC without my iTcHy sCaMmEr hAnDs making a grab for them.

Says who?

Can you get even one credible person to attest that you handled >10BTC for them?  I don’t see it on your trust page.

Since your wording was vague as to whether you say you handled >10 BTC in one transanction, or >10 BTC altogether over time, I also don’t see feedback in amounts high enough to add up to “>10 BTC” except over a very long period if time.  I see 0.01 BTC here, 0.05 BTC there...

...and then there’s a 0.31 BTC feedback from #1472267 “Bigraz”, a Newbie-ranked account (29 activity) created 2017-12-19, whose entire post history (save two altcoin posts) is a litany of posting in loan threads—many (more than half?) in Alia loan threads.

So... who says you have handled >10 BTC?  You?  It is not a rhetorical question.  I am asking you, Alia.

[suchmoon]

So what's the verdict? Forum's favorite camgirl turned scamgirl?

One thing that I want to point out - and it's obviously quite redundant after 16 pages but anyway - the gambling script thing is where this fairy tale should have ended. There is no such thing as a winning script, and even if there is some sort of a hack/cheat - you're basically robbing a gambling site just by testing the script. It takes a staggering amount of naiveté (I'm gonna be generous here and assume that's what it is) to stake one's reputation on vouching for something like this.

[nullius]

So what's the verdict? Forum's favorite camgirl turned scamgirl?

For me, what really nailed down the matter was when Dave from Wallet Recovery Services said he didn’t know her.  Yes, Dave posted in this thread.  Oh yes, I remembered that she had said she knew Dave from “the best wallet recovery service” IRL; so I pinged Dave, in case he could corroborate about her and her brother.  After he posted here, her best response was something along the lines of, “other Dave”.

Way upthread.  You missed much.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032057.msg31227646#msg31227646

That’s after she challenged theymos’ IP evidence on alleged grounds of sharing Internet (and accounts, and e-mails...) with her alleged brother.

One thing that I want to point out - and it's obviously quite redundant after 16 pages but anyway - the gambling script thing is where this fairy tale should have ended. There is no such thing as a winning script, and even if there is some sort of a hack/cheat - you're basically robbing a gambling site just by testing the script. It takes a staggering amount of naiveté (I'm gonna be generous here and assume that's what it is) to stake one's reputation on vouching for something like this.

That’s now offtopic here.  Thread split by OP.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3038096.0
Issues got mixed up from the beginning; I urged to refocus:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3038096.msg31276141#msg31276141

P.S., suchmoon—sorry about that merit you gave to adjust to 69, plus some wastes of fine wit.

[suchmoon]

P.S., suchmoon—sorry about that merit you gave to adjust to 69, plus some wastes of fine wit.

Nah, it was worth that one sMerit.

You gotta admit, this thing was done in style until it got derailed by the perp getting way too greedy. And way-too-greedy perps are good for the rest of the humanity otherwise we'd get scammed way too often.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Ok, I only read the first page of this so far, but what OP has is a suspicion that alia is scamming because her items keep getting "sold" once she's asked for a picture.  aTriz is being linked to this because of this odd 3 year contract for signature advertising.   Is that it in a nutshell?   

I do find this contract strange, since it wasn't too long ago thar aTriz was looking for very high ranked, trusted members for an exclusive campaign of his--and then he does a deal with this relative unknown.   But aTriz has always been honest and very polite and kind in his dealings with me.  True, you never know what lies beneath, but I still trust him.  I've been in his campaigns before, and he's been entrusted with large amounts of bitcoin--and he always paid on-time and accurately.   

Plus I don't see a full scam on alia's part, though her behavior is somewhat suspicious.   I'll keep reading this thread, but my positive trust for aTriz will stand.

[DarkStar_]

I do find this contract strange, since it wasn't too long ago thar aTriz was looking for very high ranked, trusted members for an exclusive campaign of his--and then he does a deal with this relative unknown.

Different campaigns
She had offered in public
Potential, he saw

DarkStar_ and actmyname are both writing haiku!!!!!!11one111 alts confirmed

[MadZ]

Ok, I only read the first page of this so far, but what OP has is a suspicion that alia is scamming because her items keep getting "sold" once she's asked for a picture.  aTriz is being linked to this because of this odd 3 year contract for signature advertising.   Is that it in a nutshell?  

I do find this contract strange, since it wasn't too long ago thar aTriz was looking for very high ranked, trusted members for an exclusive campaign of his--and then he does a deal with this relative unknown.   But aTriz has always been honest and very polite and kind in his dealings with me.  True, you never know what lies beneath, but I still trust him.  I've been in his campaigns before, and he's been entrusted with large amounts of bitcoin--and he always paid on-time and accurately.  

Plus I don't see a full scam on alia's part, though her behavior is somewhat suspicious.   I'll keep reading this thread, but my positive trust for aTriz will stand.

I'll save you some time then. Theymos revealed that IP evidence linked her to an account that was previously red-tagged for trying to take out loans and double people's money through gambling: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032057.msg31217052#msg31217052

Pretty much exactly what alia has been trying to do, except for some reason people were okay with it until now.

[alia]

Ok, I only read the first page of this so far, but what OP has is a suspicion that alia is scamming because her items keep getting "sold" once she's asked for a picture.  aTriz is being linked to this because of this odd 3 year contract for signature advertising.   Is that it in a nutshell?  

I do find this contract strange, since it wasn't too long ago thar aTriz was looking for very high ranked, trusted members for an exclusive campaign of his--and then he does a deal with this relative unknown.   But aTriz has always been honest and very polite and kind in his dealings with me.  True, you never know what lies beneath, but I still trust him.  I've been in his campaigns before, and he's been entrusted with large amounts of bitcoin--and he always paid on-time and accurately.  

Plus I don't see a full scam on alia's part, though her behavior is somewhat suspicious.   I'll keep reading this thread, but my positive trust for aTriz will stand.

I'll save you some time then. Theymos revealed that IP evidence linked her to an account that was previously red-tagged for trying to take out loans and double people's money through gambling: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032057.msg31217052#msg31217052

Pretty much exactly what alia has been trying to do, except for some reason people were okay with it until now.

The other account was red-tagged for a potential suspected scam. This account is linked to the other one. No scam has happened.

[timerland]

Ok, I only read the first page of this so far, but what OP has is a suspicion that alia is scamming because her items keep getting "sold" once she's asked for a picture.  aTriz is being linked to this because of this odd 3 year contract for signature advertising.   Is that it in a nutshell?  

I do find this contract strange, since it wasn't too long ago thar aTriz was looking for very high ranked, trusted members for an exclusive campaign of his--and then he does a deal with this relative unknown.   But aTriz has always been honest and very polite and kind in his dealings with me.  True, you never know what lies beneath, but I still trust him.  I've been in his campaigns before, and he's been entrusted with large amounts of bitcoin--and he always paid on-time and accurately.  

Plus I don't see a full scam on alia's part, though her behavior is somewhat suspicious.   I'll keep reading this thread, but my positive trust for aTriz will stand.

I'll save you some time then. Theymos revealed that IP evidence linked her to an account that was previously red-tagged for trying to take out loans and double people's money through gambling: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032057.msg31217052#msg31217052

Pretty much exactly what alia has been trying to do, except for some reason people were okay with it until now.

I'm guessing that people think that just because someone is verified, they are legit. And with how alia has been online on the forums for such a long time every single day, people feel inclined to think that she/he is somehow legit and able to break a provably fair system.

I don't buy any of that. Otherwise she could do this over and over with her own money, instead of taking investor funds.

I think the reasons why atriz is linked to this is pretty much the advertisement deal that you mentioned, as well as the review he gave for the gambling service.

[RGBKey]

Although a little bit superficial, as someone that actually attends a university, I find it hilarious that alia would call it "college". I don't think I've ever heard anybody here refer to it as "college" instead of "school". Could easily be a regional difference or something but it immediately stood out to me, like someone trying to lie about something they're not familiar with.

Maybe you could start with addressing the original concerns in the OP, which could be primarily done by:

It is weird that someone would enter into a three year signature campaign. Who is to say that aTriz will have something to advertise sex months from now, let alone three years from now.

When physical items are being sold, it is customary around here to post a picture of said item with a piece of paper that has the date written on it, along with the username of the person selling the item. This will prove the seller at the very least has possession of said item.

Thanks for the information, I was not aware of this. I'm happy that at least one good thing came out of this thread.

I'm 100% down for that. I would prefer nullius, condoras, aTriz, RHavar, theymos, Lauda - any of them. Let's put an end to the speculation, let me prove it to you.

Thanks, but no. I do not do video calls for several reasons. I'm really not sure who is *trustworthy* enough and is willing to do this. I've crossed out the people who should not do this or do not want to (me).

I agree, you probably would be unable to get a good handle of if they are telling the truth in two minutes.

I sent a picture of me typing out the literal post I sent minutes after. If that is not good enough proof, then I will send a "timestamped" image once I am back from college.

[alia]

Although a little bit superficial, as someone that actually attends a university, I find it hilarious that alia would call it "college". I don't think I've ever heard anybody here refer to it as "college" instead of "school". Could easily be a regional difference or something but it immediately stood out to me, like someone trying to lie about something they're not familiar with.

Maybe you could start with addressing the original concerns in the OP, which could be primarily done by:

It is weird that someone would enter into a three year signature campaign. Who is to say that aTriz will have something to advertise sex months from now, let alone three years from now.

When physical items are being sold, it is customary around here to post a picture of said item with a piece of paper that has the date written on it, along with the username of the person selling the item. This will prove the seller at the very least has possession of said item.

Thanks for the information, I was not aware of this. I'm happy that at least one good thing came out of this thread.

I'm 100% down for that. I would prefer nullius, condoras, aTriz, RHavar, theymos, Lauda - any of them. Let's put an end to the speculation, let me prove it to you.

Thanks, but no. I do not do video calls for several reasons. I'm really not sure who is *trustworthy* enough and is willing to do this. I've crossed out the people who should not do this or do not want to (me).

I agree, you probably would be unable to get a good handle of if they are telling the truth in two minutes.

I sent a picture of me typing out the literal post I sent minutes after. If that is not good enough proof, then I will send a "timestamped" image once I am back from college.

Are you telling me that colleges do not exist? And the only place for higher study is a "university"? Please. You're grasping for straws here

[UpsilonTrooper]

Although a little bit superficial, as someone that actually attends a university, I find it hilarious that alia would call it "college". I don't think I've ever heard anybody here refer to it as "college" instead of "school". Could easily be a regional difference or something but it immediately stood out to me, like someone trying to lie about something they're not familiar with.

Maybe you could start with addressing the original concerns in the OP, which could be primarily done by:

It is weird that someone would enter into a three year signature campaign. Who is to say that aTriz will have something to advertise sex months from now, let alone three years from now.

When physical items are being sold, it is customary around here to post a picture of said item with a piece of paper that has the date written on it, along with the username of the person selling the item. This will prove the seller at the very least has possession of said item.

Thanks for the information, I was not aware of this. I'm happy that at least one good thing came out of this thread.

I'm 100% down for that. I would prefer nullius, condoras, aTriz, RHavar, theymos, Lauda - any of them. Let's put an end to the speculation, let me prove it to you.

Thanks, but no. I do not do video calls for several reasons. I'm really not sure who is *trustworthy* enough and is willing to do this. I've crossed out the people who should not do this or do not want to (me).

I agree, you probably would be unable to get a good handle of if they are telling the truth in two minutes.

I sent a picture of me typing out the literal post I sent minutes after. If that is not good enough proof, then I will send a "timestamped" image once I am back from college.

College is a term used in quite a few countries. I'm not sure whether it's used in Singapore or nah but being 19 and going to "college" does add up and that point atleast doesnt look odd to me

[alia]

Although a little bit superficial, as someone that actually attends a university, I find it hilarious that alia would call it "college". I don't think I've ever heard anybody here refer to it as "college" instead of "school". Could easily be a regional difference or something but it immediately stood out to me, like someone trying to lie about something they're not familiar with.

Maybe you could start with addressing the original concerns in the OP, which could be primarily done by:

It is weird that someone would enter into a three year signature campaign. Who is to say that aTriz will have something to advertise sex months from now, let alone three years from now.

When physical items are being sold, it is customary around here to post a picture of said item with a piece of paper that has the date written on it, along with the username of the person selling the item. This will prove the seller at the very least has possession of said item.

Thanks for the information, I was not aware of this. I'm happy that at least one good thing came out of this thread.

I'm 100% down for that. I would prefer nullius, condoras, aTriz, RHavar, theymos, Lauda - any of them. Let's put an end to the speculation, let me prove it to you.

Thanks, but no. I do not do video calls for several reasons. I'm really not sure who is *trustworthy* enough and is willing to do this. I've crossed out the people who should not do this or do not want to (me).

I agree, you probably would be unable to get a good handle of if they are telling the truth in two minutes.

I sent a picture of me typing out the literal post I sent minutes after. If that is not good enough proof, then I will send a "timestamped" image once I am back from college.

College is a term used in quite a few countries. I'm not sure whether it's used in Singapore or nah but being 19 and going to "college" does add up and that point atleast doesnt look odd to me

People are just desperately looking for more random shit to call me out on. Ohhhh! Scammer!!!!! She said "college" instead of "university"!!!!!!! I have never travelled out of my own state before!!!!!!1!

[TheBeardedBaby]

Ok, I only read the first page of this so far, but what OP has is a suspicion that alia is scamming because her items keep getting "sold" once she's asked for a picture.  aTriz is being linked to this because of this odd 3 year contract for signature advertising.   Is that it in a nutshell?   

I do find this contract strange, since it wasn't too long ago thar aTriz was looking for very high ranked, trusted members for an exclusive campaign of his--and then he does a deal with this relative unknown.   But aTriz has always been honest and very polite and kind in his dealings with me.  True, you never know what lies beneath, but I still trust him.  I've been in his campaigns before, and he's been entrusted with large amounts of bitcoin--and he always paid on-time and accurately.   

Plus I don't see a full scam on alia's part, though her behavior is somewhat suspicious.   I'll keep reading this thread, but my positive trust for aTriz will stand.

And there is this one to add more drama:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032057.msg31202695#msg31202695

[Maum]

Ok, I only read the first page of this so far, but what OP has is a suspicion that alia is scamming because her items keep getting "sold" once she's asked for a picture.  aTriz is being linked to this because of this odd 3 year contract for signature advertising.   Is that it in a nutshell?   

I do find this contract strange, since it wasn't too long ago thar aTriz was looking for very high ranked, trusted members for an exclusive campaign of his--and then he does a deal with this relative unknown.   But aTriz has always been honest and very polite and kind in his dealings with me.  True, you never know what lies beneath, but I still trust him.  I've been in his campaigns before, and he's been entrusted with large amounts of bitcoin--and he always paid on-time and accurately.   

Plus I don't see a full scam on alia's part, though her behavior is somewhat suspicious.   I'll keep reading this thread, but my positive trust for aTriz will stand.

And there is this one to add more drama:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032057.msg31202695#msg31202695

....and even not only scamming:

The contract is not void, and there is no chance of it becoming void for a long, long time. It will likely become void if/when I am not Legendary after 3 years, but that remains to be seen. I would advise aTriz not to try and "wriggle out" of the contract, because it puts me in a position where I will be forced to reveal certain things that he has done. If he sticks to the terms of the contract, as stipulated, he is my friend, and he will not be my enemy. Being my enemy is not a very favourable position for anyone to be in.

That's an extortion attempt...

[alia]

Ok, I only read the first page of this so far, but what OP has is a suspicion that alia is scamming because her items keep getting "sold" once she's asked for a picture.  aTriz is being linked to this because of this odd 3 year contract for signature advertising.   Is that it in a nutshell?   

I do find this contract strange, since it wasn't too long ago thar aTriz was looking for very high ranked, trusted members for an exclusive campaign of his--and then he does a deal with this relative unknown.   But aTriz has always been honest and very polite and kind in his dealings with me.  True, you never know what lies beneath, but I still trust him.  I've been in his campaigns before, and he's been entrusted with large amounts of bitcoin--and he always paid on-time and accurately.   

Plus I don't see a full scam on alia's part, though her behavior is somewhat suspicious.   I'll keep reading this thread, but my positive trust for aTriz will stand.

And there is this one to add more drama:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032057.msg31202695#msg31202695

....and even not only scamming:

The contract is not void, and there is no chance of it becoming void for a long, long time. It will likely become void if/when I am not Legendary after 3 years, but that remains to be seen. I would advise aTriz not to try and "wriggle out" of the contract, because it puts me in a position where I will be forced to reveal certain things that he has done. If he sticks to the terms of the contract, as stipulated, he is my friend, and he will not be my enemy. Being my enemy is not a very favourable position for anyone to be in.

That's an extortion attempt...

No extortion attempts, actually. Just a statement that I do not take contract-breaking lightly

[maeusi]

It is a criminal behavior and 1) alia should be banned with all his alts from the forum and 2) aTriz should be out of the contract as it was treated with criminal act.

[alia]

It is a criminal behavior and 1) alia should be banned with all his alts from the forum and 2) aTriz should be out of the contract as it was treated with criminal act.

Which criminal act did I do?