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1921  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: July 21, 2019, 05:08:15 AM
Is monero worth a buy now? 
1922  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Bitcoin Ledger and other hardware related questions. on: July 21, 2019, 05:07:50 AM
When you say keyboard, you mean wired or wireless or both?  So basically if someone know you have crypto in your computer and had access to your keyboard, they can basically put something there and when its connected to your laptop, you are screwed?
1923  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Did i make or lose money on this trade? on: July 21, 2019, 05:05:43 AM
Well are there more traders wanting to accumulate btc... or trading alts to get more usd or usdt?
1924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [ SHIFT ] Price Speculation on: July 21, 2019, 05:04:22 AM
Does anyone think of anything good for shift? 
1925  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHIFT] The New Web | IPFS/Phantom | ShiftNrg.org Hosted Decentralized! on: July 21, 2019, 05:03:53 AM
Why has this coin dropped so much?  I heard phantom product yet price still this low?
1926  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Should I invest in these altcoins? on: July 21, 2019, 05:02:45 AM
Does anyone here think the coins like funfair and edgeless is pretty much done?  These coins prices has dropped a ton.
1927  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many people or percentage has held at least 50 or 100 btc at one point? on: July 21, 2019, 05:01:52 AM
But there were lot of ppl that treated bitcoin like it was nothing right?  Like they would send 100 or 1000 bitcoins to others without thinking much of it?
1928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Claiming Bitcoin Gold and Bitcoin SV? on: July 21, 2019, 05:00:50 AM
Has anyone here claimed their bitcoin gold from coinomi did it with their iphone?  Is it exactly same way as with android phone?  I have iphone only.



1929  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Need help updating old Ledger Nano S firmware 1.2 on: July 21, 2019, 04:59:55 AM
OP did you solve your issue?


Also what version of firmware is now at the moment with the ledger nano s?  I still am using the older version 1.4 as i haven't updated the last update. 


I did log into ledger live frequently and see there is an update.  What version of ledger live is it at the moment?  How do i check what version of ledger live im using?


In terms of updates, isn't updating the firmware of your nano ledger much more important than the ledger live?


So basically the best advice is to at least once every week or 2 weeks or 1 month, plug your ledger nano so to see if there is a firmware update needed and do the same with the ledger live right?  Minimum once every how long? 


If someone hasn't updated their ledger live and ledger nano firmware in few months, which one do you suggest updating first?  I assume just do the ledger live first install now and then do the firmware for the nano ledger s afterwards right?


You would also say its rare for a situation where you cannot update the firmware and have to get a replacement nano ledger s right like the OP right?  I assume unless you don't check the updates for at least 6 months, only then you might have a problem?  That to me is a concern because imagine someone has their nano ledger s and just store put it somewhere and never touch it for years.  Then they cannot update it due to old firmware.  That is not good to hear.


Also, since im using version 1.4 firmware on the nano ledger s, can someone tell me how many total firmware updates i have done total?  I got the nano ledger around early 2018 or so.  I remember doing 1 firmware update where the nano ledger s froze and it took a while to fix this issue but HCP helped me with that issue.  Im pretty sure i did either 1 update or 2 updates.  But i assume its 2 total updates?  I think last time i did a 2nd update and that was fine.


But does anyone here get nervous and anxious when they do a firmware update on their nano ledger s?  The first time i did it, i had issues where it froze etc. 





1930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Top Altcoins that Has Increased In Total Price Since 2017? on: July 21, 2019, 04:42:08 AM
Hi.  I have waves but i didn't get it at the low price when it first came out.  I got it at a pretty higher price.  Also whoever bought waves coin most likely is done money because its only 1.50 now.  Most people did not buy waves below 1.50.  Also if you bought waves when it first came out, you would not be up much.  It came out costing over 1 dollar.


Yes waves did hit a high mark but every coin hit that high mark.  You are barely up if you got waves at 1 dollar so i don't think waves is a good example.


I mean if you look at nano... that is the type of coin im talking about... 1 cent when it was out... 37 dollars at highest... right now over 1 dollar.
1931  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / What is the purpose of investing in alts? Make Fiat Money Or Make More BTC? on: July 21, 2019, 01:30:58 AM
A while back when i asked this question about trading such as buying altcoins... such as buy an altcoin for $1 and buy say $1000 of it.  Let say btc was around $1000.  So it cost 1 btc to buy 1000 of that altcoin.  Let say price of altcoin went to $2.  You double your money.  Now if you were to sell the altcoin, you can't go directly to usd or usdt.  You need to sell for btc first.  Then people mentioned, you want to have more btc than you originally started with when you trade for altcoin.  At first that didn't make sense to me because I thought... well if altcoin goes up in price and you sell, you make profit.  Then people say well if btc went from $1000 to $3000 during the time your altcoin went from $1 to $2, you actually lose because when you sell your altcoin for btc, you are getting less btc than you put in... which would be less than 1 btc.  Such as you would only get 0.667 btc etc.  But I said well btc is worth more now.  But the point i made was well you now have $2000 fiat as oppose to $1000 fiat earlier.  Then people say well had you just kept the 1 btc, its now $3000 usd.  I said i get that... but you still make money here because you traded.



Now I said well what if the altcoin actually dropped in price from $1 to $0.50.  Then you sell it.  Well here you lost because you bought at 1 dollar, sold at 50 cent so you lose 1/2 your investment.  But say btc dropped 90% during this time from $1000 to $100.  Here... you started with 1btc... but now have 5 btc.  Obviously this is an extreme example but you understand my point.  Here, you lose usd value because 5 btc is worth only $500 if btc is 100 dollars.  But people say here this is good because you now have more btc than you started with.  Several people mention the goal of trading altcoin is to accumulate btc.  Is that true or false?



I mean i thought trading was always to get more fiat than you started with.  I completely understand the you want to have more btc than you put in part.  That makes sense.  But if you had a choice, aren't you suppose to choose you want fiat profit as oppose to btc accumulation?  Because its like some people seem to suggest, they rather lose money on an altcoin trade when they sell it back to btc... if they finish with more btc than they started with before the altcoin trade.  Thoughts on this?



But in general when you are investing in altcoins and trying to find that 5x, 10x, 50x etc... is your goal suppose to be accumulate more btc?  Or to get profit in terms of usd value?



Obviously you prefer both and you prefer investing in alt coins if both btc and alts do well but alts do much better than btc.  But if you only invest in alts, do you want altcoins to skyrocket and btc plummet?  That way you get back much more btc than you started with?  I always thought goal is to get more fiat when trading altcoins because you think it will do good.
1932  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Top Altcoins that Has Increased In Total Price Since 2017? on: July 21, 2019, 01:20:17 AM
By this, I meant altcoins that came out around 2017... and still exist now.


The one altcoin that I find amazing is nano... it was called raiblocks back then.  The coin was basically around 1 cent.  It went up to 10 cents... then 1 dollar.  Yes thats right 100x the amount.  Then it went to 10 dollars, 20 dollars and all time high of 37 dollars before dropping back all the way down to 10 dollars... and now basically just over 1 dollar.


I cannot believe this because had someone invested say $1,000 in raiblocks... that means 100,000 nano.  It going up to 10 cents from 1 cent means $1,000 into $10,000.  Then it went to 1 dollar... which means $1000 is now $100000.  Then it went to $10, which is 1 million dollars.  Then it went to $20 and up to over $30 and was between the $20 to $30 mark for a short time.  This mean had you invested in raiblocks at 1 cent... you had between 2 and 3 million dollars at the moment.  To me that is just shocking and I didn't know about this coin until people say it went from 3 cent to 3 dollars and now its over 20 dollars.  I thought... if someone had invested $1000 in railblocks at 1 cent when it came out, had they cashed out at the absolute high, that would been $3.7 million dollars.  Of course that never happens.  But say they decided to sell it all at $10.  That is 1 million dollars.  Had they kept nano and never sold, well their $1000 investment would still be over $100,000 right now because nano is over $1. 


What other coins has increased this much since 2017?  Obviously i would like to know of coins that came out around that time. 


This is the one coin that just stood out to me like... this coin was 1 cent... now its still over 1 dollar.  Of course you could say that about btc, litecoin etc when it first came out.  But i mean when people were starting to know a bit of crypto like when bitcoin was hitting $1000 etc.


Is there a list where i can find something like this out? 
1933  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin takes aim at $100,000 target on: July 20, 2019, 10:18:33 PM
Well experts to say the true value is over 300k or around there.  So those experts are wrong then?
1934  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to safely store big amounts of BTC? on: July 20, 2019, 10:15:52 PM
How much btc would you say is a big amount?  Even 1 btc now is a big amount to most people right?  I mean 0.5 btc is still over 5k usd.


I'm curious but are there many ppl that kept btc in wallets like electrum and jaxxx and those other wallets when btc got really high and say they had like 5 btc there or more?  I assume there had to been quite a lot of those ppl right?  Since when btc was around the 250 mark, i mean everyone kept btc in electrum or paper wallet or exchange right?
1935  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nano is better than Bitcoin! Do you hold any? on: July 20, 2019, 09:57:39 PM
Did anyone buy nano when it came out and it was 0.01?  How would anyone even know about new coins that just came out?


I took a look and at the highest point, it hit 37 dollars.  So let someone spent $1000 and bought 100000 nano.  By the time nano hit 1 dollar, which is 100x... that $1000 is now $1,000,000.  Then it hit 20 dollars and was around those prices for a short while.  So basically when it was 20 dollars, 100000 nano is worth over 2 million dollars.


Has there been any coins recently that ever went this high?  I mean even right now nano is over 1 dollar.  Anyone that bought it at 1 cent and never sold it... its still over 100x when it came out.  That mean 1000 dollars worth of 100000 nano is still worth 100,000 usd.  That is amazing.
1936  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much Bitcoin to accumulate now to be financially set after the next boom? on: July 20, 2019, 09:43:25 PM
Wouldn't 5 be probably the absolute minimum for someone with north american standards?  But this the number probably is at least 10?  Reason is because experts seem to say 300k is where bitcoin will end up so that would be 3 million dollars.  After taxes, well you still have at least 1.8 million right?  I mean could you imagine selling everything and then having 1.8 million usd?
1937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Questions to BTC Holders 2011 And Before on: July 14, 2019, 04:48:55 AM
Well I mentioned i heard about btc in 2011.  It was probably mid 2011.  The price was around 10-30 dollars at the max around that time right?  Now i mentioned i looked at it and thought that is stupid.  To me it just felt like buying worthless coins or cards except it just doesn't make sense since i thought it was useless.


But im curious if i had bought it, how much i would have bought.  I mean say it was $10 a coin.  I mean i probably couldn't imagine myself buying 1k usd worth which would be 100 btc.  I can't see myself spending more than 100 dollars on it.  Now if it was 1 dollar each, yea im probably going to buy 100 of it at least. 


But here are other issues.  Say i bought it... where would be the most likely place i keep my btc at?  I know mount gox was the most popular exchange around then.  But when it got hacked, where did ppl then buy btc after that time?  I believe prehack, almost everyone bought btc there?  So after the hack, where did they buy it at such as what exchange?  Now the other thing im curious would be is where did ppl keep their btc then?  Were paper wallets a thing back in 2011?  Did most ppl keep it in bitcoin core which i heard is the oldest btc wallet there is?  I read that you need to download the entire block.  So that is what ppl did?  Also it had a 12 word phrase like electrum right where you could restore the btc in case something happen to your wallet or computer?  I ask this because back then, i did not have any internet security at all on my laptop etc. 


So i thought let say i did bought btc back then.  Would it be good chance i sold it when it hit over 1k a few years later?  I mean if i had say 100 btc, and its over 1k a btc... thats 1 million dollars.  I would have a tough time thinking of not selling any. 


The other thing is how would i know my btc would been safe the entire time?  Did those who held btc in their bitcoin core wallets did lot of security for their wallets?  So if you visited bad sites or downloaded trojan/malware, good chance your bitcoin core wallet could get hacked back then?


So i'm curious because had i bought btc back then, well couldn't many things have happened?  Like those ppl who have btc in a hard drive and either threw it away or don't remember their password etc.  I mean surely tons of ppl did that right since well it was not worth much?


Im curious if btc was getting tossed around like it was nothing.  Like did ppl treat 100 btc like nothing back then when buying/selling things?
1938  Economy / Trading Discussion / Did i make or lose money on this trade? on: July 12, 2019, 01:34:42 AM
I bought an altcoin a long time ago.  I spent around $850 to buy it.  Example say i bought it at $0.01.  So i bought 85000 of it roughly.  I sold it when it was a bit over 2 cents... but sold exactly half.  Let say i originally spent 0.045 btc to all that altcoin.  When i sold the altcoin... i got back about 0.05 btc.  And of course i still had about 42500 of the altcoin.  But that altcoin has dropped over 90% and i still have it now.



Does that mean even if that altcoin i have go to 0... i still profit because i spent 0.045btc originally for the 85000 altcoins and got back 0.05btc for selling 42500 altcoins?




The thing is the btc that i received back when i sold the altcoin... i still have it.  But the btc price that i received the btc for the altcoin sale was higher than the current btc price now.  So in the end no matter what, i profited because i received more USD worth back then for the sale of altcoin? Or because i received more btc than i started with?



In terms of income, its the USD.  But in terms of btc accumulation, its the 2nd part but still its a yes because i received more btc than i put in it for altcoin right?



Now the thing is do ppl consider altcoin gain or loss... when you sell an altcoin for btc... do you look at the current usd value of total btc received?  Or you look at how much btc you received back?  Because you can easily receive less btc than you originally spent on the altcoin... but the usd value of the btc is worth more.  You could also have a usd loss but receive more btc than you put in... assuming that altcoin does better than bitcoin itself..
1939  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much Bitcoin to accumulate now to be financially set after the next boom? on: July 12, 2019, 01:28:08 AM
Well if you are talking about north american standard... say bitcoin is worth 100k a coin... wouldn't the number be more like 25 at least? 


2.5 million dollars after taxes... let say you have 1.5 to 1.8 million after that.



1940  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Stay away from online mobile wallets with no backup phrase on: July 12, 2019, 01:00:22 AM
What wallets would that be?



Don't most wallets have a backup phrase?  I do know one that does not but how many are there?
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