If you are eyeballing the cupboards again, then there is not a lot that any of us insensitive interweb dweebs can do / say to save you from ur own selfie . 

Let's look on the bright side of things:   You are chatting, and you are social.

You are no longer hiding underneath the cupboards.


That b called:


Progress.



Don't give me Malcom X, here.   

Get real.. it is the subject matter and the trading pair of this thread.

We are not getting rid of the USD any time soon... and even though we know that it is inevitably going to decrease in value, it is what a lot of folks (including why this thread is world famous) are interested in the USD/BTC trading pair

Well, all the more power to you, if you are able to trade alts and to gain BTC through such trades; however, such a trading alts to increase your BTC is far from a given, even if it has worked in the past.  It remains difficult to recognize a pattern, and is likely a more risky and complicated a practice that is not even very relevant to this thread unless there were some obvious BTC/Alt/USD connection, which there is not.

Get the fuck out of here with your alt coin pumping and your baloney about the supposed benefits of alts versus the supposed "professional" trading on BTC.

Yeah, you may be able to increase your BTC through alts; however, you might also decrease your BTC through alts- so you are suggesting some whimsical and non-specified advice for gambling with alts... and you have not even described how the technique is supposed to work exactly to both 1) identify the alt that you want to trade, 2) time the trading, 3) make sure that you do not get scammed because there are a lot of alt coin scams out there, 4) make sure that you do not get locked into the alt.. sometimes it can be easier to get into alts, but getting out might be more challenging and 5) any other alt coin trick that may be helpful in figuring out what to do and when to do it.

O.k.  Maybe I misunderstood your first response in this string?  I thought that you were suggesting that you had a better strategy of increasing your bitcoin, but instead you seem to have been rolling your eyes at yourself, and agreeing that you may have been better off if you had just kept your money in bitcoin.

I did look at your steemit article, too, and I don't necessarily agree with your thesis that you might be the "unluckiest" guys in bitcoin because there are a lot of peeps who make similar mistakes as you - to sell their bitcoins too early and to attempt to trade in alt coins and to cause a situation that is worse than if they had just kept their value in bitcoin.

I don't know what you mean by "trivial amount."  I used to keep a bit more than 50% of my BTC portfolio value on exchanges, and I really was not putting that value on the exchanges to use.  A lot of the value was just sitting there on the exchanges, just-in-case.   

After BTC prices went above $1k, and then prices kept going up from there, I began to realize that I likely don't really need to keep that much money on exchanges in order to accomplish my goals, and really the risk of keeping the value seemed to be going up a lot causing the worth of even previously considered "dust" to begin to seem like a lot of money (value).

In recent times, I am keeping around 20% of the total value on exchanges, and it is just the amount of money that I would need for the prices to go DOWN a lot (such as 80% from the top) or UP a lot (3x from our current price point), and likely I could keep lower value on the exchanges, but I think that I am more covered for very extreme prices changes, and I would not have to move the money at the last moment.  I did put enough BTC on exchanges to be prepared up to $35k BTC prices because we were moving UP so fast in December 2017 - but probably now, I could remove some of that BTC, perhaps and only prepare for $25k (but I do feel o.k. preparing for $35k, just in case).

So, you could have 10% to 20% of your BTC portfolio value on exchanges in order to prepare for UP and DOWN without having to put all of your value on exchanges.  Further, currently, I have my exchange value distributed across 4 exchanges.  Currently, I am having some ongoing issues with my coinbase account, so I still have 3 exchanges that I can work with until my coinbase matter is hopefully resolved (been a little over 2 weeks so far with those coinbase fucks).

Now, you are trying to act as if you are smart, or something. 

You should be smart enough to realize that past performance does not indicate future results; however, if you have a system that is working for you, and it seems to work under a variety of market conditions, then you have something that you might want to share with others.

I do personally, try to share my strategies, to the extent that others are interested in discussing - however, sometimes, it takes a bit of time to describes what seems to work and what does not work.

Do you have anything in particular that you want to share that you believe might be good or repeatable, or you just want to keep your supposedly superb strategies private?

I think that you are saying the right thing... hopefully it will help you from panicking too much, especially if you are reluctant to meditate.... I would mostly suggest that you attempt to keep the sizes of your orders relatively small.. so the whole practice accomplishes relieving you of some stress, even if it does not make a lot of money.

In the last two weeks, I cut my order increments down from $1,000 to about $700 because the $1,000 increments were not filling enough to my liking, and I changed a couple other details in my system that I don't want to disclose here because it would likely overly complicate matters and cause too much confusion if I were to try to describe too many of my personal specifics.

Brats that are living in a fantasy world.... hahahahhaaha   

Ok.  The goal of accumulating bitcoin still likely subliminally accounts for dollar value, and assumes that dollar value will be increasing with time.

Sure, there may be some point in time that either we measure bitcoin's in bitcoin's... so I don't necessarily disagree with your mental framework to attempt to accumulate as many bitcoin as you can..,. even though subliminally, you are still recognizing bitcoins to be valuable because they continue to go up in value, whether measuring in terms of dollars, some other fiat, some other asset or measuring in terms of most things (partly because we expect that we are on an exponential s-curve that will make it difficult for any other asset to keep up with bitcoin in the longer term, unless it is also on some kind of exponential s-curve, as well - and almost all other assets are not on such exponential s-curve, even if they can fake it for the short term.



That is fair enough.. and they might also be like wak-a-mole and keep popping up in a different form after being wacked down.


I still think that status quo institutions are going to keep battling the various trends, including the bitcoin trend.. though you are correct that some BIG thing(s) could happen too, without exactly knowing what that is (those are) going to be.


I personally believe that it is not worth it to play around with alts with an intent of increasing bitcoin holdings.  But, if some folks are able to find decent systems to play with alts and increase their bitcoins, then the more power to them.. just careful not to be risking too much bitcoin in those kinds of endeavors.

I agree with you that the higher the BTC price, the more difficult in absolute terms to acquire larger quantities of bitcoin, so yeah, it was much easier to acquire decent quantities of BTC a bit over a year ago (and more solidly two years ago) when BTC prices were in the below $500 price range.  So, we cannot really get around valuing some of these bitcoin matters in terms of dollars, so I think that unless you already have a decent amount of bitcoin, it is much more difficult for "regular" folks to accumulate even 10 bitcoins, as compared with 1-2 years ago... so I am not sure where you are getting ideas that it would be easy to increase you bitcoin holdings even by adding some double digit values unless you already have acquired a decent amount of money, but I agree with your point that it is likely going to continue to be easier to accumulate BTC in absolute terms if you get started earlier, rather than waiting to see what it does and waiting to act later... The time remains now.

Regarding trading, you can really fuck your BTC accumulation strategy up if you are gambling too much with either alts or BTC with some formula that expects large returns.

I continue to think that I am doing really good with my BTC accumulation strategy, even though I am not really accumulating a whole hell of a lot.... Take this most recent dip from $19,666 to $5,920 and the BTC price ongoingly bouncing around at various price points in between.  At $19,666, I had a certain assessment of the BTC value and the dollar value of my total BTC holdings (and funds that are dedicated to my BTC portfolio), and yeah the drop and the bouncing around causes a lot of profits and accumulation of BTC, and I am able approximately project how much more valuable my total BTC portfolio is going to be when (or if) it returns to $19,666, and currently, I am roughly anticipating the value of my total BTC holdings (and related funds) will be between 5% and 10% more valuable than it was the first time around, and I feel really good about that.  I also am nearly certain that the allocation of the value, when (and assuming if) it reaches $19,666 the next time around will be weighted a bit more lopsided towards BTC, and that is what the UPs and DOWNs had caused to happen in my holdings as a kind of purposeful design of my system.

In other words, I don't think that I am making any kind of killing with my strategy, but it feels like a fairly rock-solid way to continue to relatively modestly rebalance my portfolio in the direction that I want and in a way that I consider to be on the lower end of the risk scale.




Certainly, we agree with this overall assessment regarding what has a decent likelihood of playing out in the longer term.



Aren't we going to be prepared for an explosion upwards no matter what?  I mean if we already accumulated a lot, then we are already ready for upwards explosion, but at the same time, like you seem to be asserting, we can take advantage of the downside to accumulate more at "bargain prices"  hahahahahahaha.. .  I don't really mind either way and personally, I feel like I have accumulated enough, even though I don't mind going through some further trading to continue to accumulate BTC from my BTC holdings.  It's just that we don't really have any kind of choice anyhow because the price just might not be ready to go up.. and we just gotta wait it out, so may as well just continue to accumulate more BTC and take advantage of the ongoing information disparity.. because we know information that is not known by the general public about the value of bitcoin.. so in that regard, we are likely going to profit handsomely from our knowledge... and I am not trying to brag or to have high hopes or engage in wishful thinking because the fact of the matter is that there are so many fucking people out there, and even once in a while we see them participating in this thread, that do not have any fucking clue about what brings value to bitcoin and what differentiates bitcoin from other cryptos.-- even though on the surface, they are not dumb people, and they may even be way smarter than a lot of bitcoin HODLers in several ways while still not being able to recognize bitcoin's value.

That's why you gotta grow some balls (figuratively), and stop being so sensitive to reasonable real world discussions.    


Me too.    

I'm not sure whether we are on a similar page here, but I personally think that altcoins and ICOs could be pumped and dumped for several more years - maybe even 5 years or more, so bitcoin may or may not prevail in those kinds of short to medium term pricing battles - even though in the longer term, bitcoin's fundamentals remain the strongest and are likely going to continue to be the strongest because the building upon the  BTC fundamentals are not deviating, and in that regard, bitcoin remains the best investment when considering both upside and downside risk - especially as compared to any alts and any of the various ongoing attempts at snake-oil salesmanship - even though I would not be surprised if some other coins may outperform Bitcoin in a variety of pricing ways in the short or medium term - even while relatively lacking in various BTC POW and decentralized immutability fundamentals.

I don't see how that is a doll.  Sure, she might have pale skin, and sure she might have a really great figure (maybe a bit much on the tits), but doesn't look like no doll to me.

I agree.  You said it much more forcefully than me (and still accurately) regarding BTC fundamentals being strong, including the fact that there had been decently sized attacks throughout 2017 - while the price kept rising, and even the beginning of the August 2017 forking attacks and the possible confusion from that including the decently funded campaigns to mislead newbies concerning the real bitcoin... and even if there remain newbies to mislead, there is a sufficient amount of smart money and even newbies who are not getting tricked by the misleading information - causing ongoing upwards price pressure strength in BTC - even if the short term does not prove to be BTC price bullish.

Of course there are burdens of proof if you are going to allege something then you need to provide a clear description of what you are alleging, and you have to provide at least some facts and logic to support what it is that you are alleging to be some kind of problem, whether that is breach of rules or morality or law.

You want people to believe you, but then we are supposed to do the work?  In any kind of case that you are alleging wrong doing, you should at least, for starters, make sure that the allegation is clear, thereafter you would at least outline the facts and the logic that supports the allegation(s), no?  Those burdens are on you.  It should not be our obligation to go research the seeming vagueness that you are asserting, right?



At minimum particularize the allegation for us with sufficient facts and logic, in order that we could look to verify what is being alleged.

QS:  Do you believe that you are acting in good faith when you continue to change the title of this thread?   The thread has become a rolling stream of consciousness of allegations, no?  Where does it stop?  

Maybe you want the title of this thread to say, "I hate Lauda for a variety of changing reason"

Your latest change (I believe today) to the title of the thread was to add the language "6 socks added Lauda to their list."  

Are you going to list out those "6 socks" and then state reasons why you believe them to be socks of Lauda.. that would be evidence and logic?  Seems like a lot of moving goal posts and revolving drama here, no?  

Can you explain why you believe such an approach towards the supposed behavior of Lauda is justified?

I suppose the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and if you can get better results by pairing with alts rather than pairing with the dollar, then no reason to fix what is not broken.

In essence, I am NOT against employing something that works for you, but I certainly am not interested in pairing alts because I barely even invest in alts, so I don't want to be stuck holding any alts, even though historically they may have done fine.. I just have little to no ambition to involve myself in some crypto asset that I do not have long term confidence - and my only one, at this time, is bitcoin.

Me too.

I don't get this stupid-ass racist allegation regarding having an expectation that understandable English is typed.

Sure, there are levels of English, and I doubt that anyone expects the English to be perfect or proper grammar in all instances.. and sometimes bad grammar and typos are purposefully used for effect.. but in the end, there is nothing racist about having an expectation that people deserve more merit (or credit) when they communicated more skillfully to get their ideas across, and the language of the forum is English, unless posting in the local sections.

In the end, the accusation would not be racist, but there could be a valid accusation of "elitism" or "prudism" if someone is expecting English skills that are perfect or near perfect when we are posting on the interwebs....... however, I don't think that anyone is expecting that kind of high level.  Surely you are judged more favorably if you can communicate your ideas clearly and concisely.