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19321  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2018, 01:23:29 AM
[19:12:24] · <ben_vulpes> https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.06038 << "on a subset of 3,759 contracts which we sampled for concrete validation and manual analysis, we reproduce real exploits at a true positive rate of 89%, yielding exploits for 3,686 contracts"
[19:20:00] · <shinohai> I'm sure with time they can get that number closer to 100% (http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1785157)

If When later this year, someday Bitcoin does another 10x I will "retire" and devote all my time to exploit research on blockchain/smart contracts field. That's when I will start to have real fun.
Looking forward to your research in 2019.

haha, I wish. I know it is perfectly possible that we do have another 10x in 2018 but.... something makes me hard to believe I will be so lucky. Wouldnt even care to wait a few more years for that. Not even if that means 10 years.

ANyway, whenever that happens you have my word you will see some exploits on my name (responsible disclosure ofc).


Some specifics might be helpful here:

1) what do you consider 10x?  $200k BTC or $100k or some number in between?

2) what do you mean by retire, exactly?  Are you cashing out some of your coins in order to invest them into some kin of funded research project?

3) Are you targeting 10x because that provides you with some cushion in the event that BTC prices experience a 90% correction and remain stagnated for a significant period of time, reminiscent of 2014-2016?

4) I do think that any investment plan that relies upon an upsurge of BTC prices does also require planning for a prolonged downturn in prices, too... and probably a 90% correction and somewhat prolonged would be the extreme of such, but really you never know for sure... but seems prudent to have plans and preparations for such within the realm of foreseeable (based on history) possibilities.
19322  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2018, 01:00:25 AM
You know something is up when I agree with Ibian. 

Yeah.. he's been kind of on a roll, and I had to sink so far as to send him a merit....

We are going to be in more of an alice in wonderland situation if Roach starts making any sense.
19323  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2018, 12:28:06 AM
Please everybody, can we just stop responding to and quoting the annoying one!


Hahahahahaha..

You must feel good   because for once that is not you.

 Tongue Tongue
19324  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2018, 12:17:41 AM
JJG:  we can talk about it later after the kids have gone to bed.


At the time of my post, I was having a brain fart (regarding EDA), and largely it was due to my not giving much of a ratt's ass about Bcash - but I figured it out after I saw it used in another post by another member who shall not be named.

Just for others EDA = Emergency Difficulty Adjustment  - which was not just a one time thing in Bcash, and it ended up in some kind of stupid-ass hardfork in Bcash in November 2017 to make further adjustments.. some of which was described in this October 31, 2017 article.

More importantly it allowed the Bcash team to premine Bcash under everyone’s noses.  The Bcash team likes to pretend this was an accident but they modeled it very carefully and the algorithm worked exactly as intended.  

Well we also know that the whole fucking Bcash thingie-ma-jiggie was a scam on several levels and a continued attack vector on bitcoin and provided an opportunity to perpetuate ASIC's boost based on insider access to the ASIC's boost technology, and remains somewhat questionable why anyone would go along with their being used to support bcash in any kind of way - but surely there could have been some neutral miners that were able to time some in and out profitable plays... but yeah, ultimately scamming on a variety of levels that also likely includes misleading newbies into NOT being able to differentiate snake oil from the real deal.
19325  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 11:59:35 PM
JJG:  we can talk about it later after the kids have gone to bed.


At the time of my earlier post, I was having a brain fart (regarding whatever the fuck EDA was referring to), and largely it was due to my not having had given much of a ratt's ass about Bcash (and maybe trying to put some of the history of it behind my thinking) - but I figured out what was EDA after I saw it used in another context in another post by a member who shall remain unnamed (Edit: and later in the thread such other not to be named member specifically answered dee question - a shill but ended up being a helpful one - not that I am going to agree now).

Just for others EDA = Emergency Difficulty Adjustment  - which was not just a one time thing in Bcash, and it ended up in some kind of stupid-ass hardfork in Bcash in November 2017 to make further adjustments.. some of which was described in this October 31, 2017 article.
19326  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 11:43:55 PM
Many many words...
+10 WOsMerits   Kiss

Somewhere back we where having a delightful conversation...its buried and half forgotten.  
*Hugs*   ....moving forward.

Ditto...

It's like nothing happened, until we get into another BIG HUGE fight, and then at that time, any kind of historical (or hysterical) remnant, whether true or not, will become fair ammunition.  

Projecting our future:
19327  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 11:31:00 PM
He is not here to learn, he is only here to troll.

Neither. I am here to illuminate my point of view.


If you could at least stay somewhat on topic, instead of pumping hostile and misinformed nonsense about an altcoin, then at least some of your views might be somewhat tolerable and even helpful to others rather than just a means to deceive with spin bullshit nonsense that has already been gone over a zillion times (maybe I am exaggerating a bit?) and no one except for noobs or the gullible seems to be persuaded by your phoney baloney except perhaps you, PeterR,  Roger Ver, Jihan Wu, and a small number of irrelevant others - and even though you put on some good spin, probably you are not even dumb enough to believe that Bcrap.  Roger dat?
19328  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 19, 2018, 10:40:13 PM
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Thanks. I honestly didn't think anyone with Merit would care to encourage my posts. Another aspect of the problem. Merit's control is deeply centralized. But I would be ok with that if they amount of Merit required was not so incredibly high.

You may be correct that the merit required is a bit too high, but if it ends up being overkill then there may be a way that Theymos can fairly tweak it - but it is certainly not a given that he will tweak it in the near future because perhaps some of the problems had gotten so far out of hand with spammers and bounty seekers that a period of overkill might be considered a better short-term path forward - because even tweaking back down would have some potential costs, too.


But I don't think I'm on here enough to earn enough to rank up and I do think the data would support my conclusion that the Merit system was too much of a swing in the other direction.

Well, you are correct that you have to be on the system and using it in order to earn merit, and you could be correct that you are not going to be on enough to earn merit to rank up in any kind of timely manner - but I think that was part of what was being attempted to rank  up and differentiate the more active users - even though you might be a good person and even a more rounded person by not being on the forum so much.. but what is rewarded is being active on the forum, so in that sense there could be some disproportionate rewarding of internet nerds and socially awkward people rather than "normies" hahahahhaha

I'm actually concerned this change could cripple what is a very important part of the crypto ecosystem.

Could be, but it NOT like the system is locked in or that the changed has created an inevitable spiral downward into DOOM, and if it ends up being too much then there may be ways to tweak it, like already mentioned.

I've been in and out of crypto for years.

Well , this is a place to witness a variety of those stories.. and disgruntled rage quits, distractions through alts, ICOs and bounty hunts, battles with bitcoin maximalists and many variations.  Sometimes you can add to the story and understanding of others and other times through participation you can learn the extent to which or in what ways your story differs or potentially adds value - and it can be quite interesting to get into some kind of online battle with another user, and then later realize that you have way more in common with your online battle opponent than you initially thought.

Lost access to my original profile because, like I said, I'm not on here much.

In my 4 years on here, I did lose access to my account twice, so that taught me 1) a bit better safe keeping of my account, 2) the value of my account and 3) it can be a bit of a bitch to get back access to your account.

Coming back in I've found this place has changed. It used to be my go-to to ask for and get great answers. I think it's still the best source for interactive answers.

We know that change is inevitable, and look at bitcoin and the crypto space..   HOLY FUCKING SHIT...   You cannot kept the same atmosphere when you have that much change and money coming into the crypto space - a combination of smart money and dumb money.

I also like this is THE place to launch an ICO bounty. And odd development to me, but I like it. That will forever codify its place in the system.

So far, I have not gotten involved in that aspect of the space - but I understand those kinds of things remain options for me, especially with a high ranking account... .. but personally, I find enough value posting in the space and other things that I have going on in my life (sometimes peeps on the forum assert that I do not have a life outside of the forum, but I surely do, even though I will admit that there are periods of time that I spend more time on the forum that what would be better for me personally).

There certainly are way too many new spammer accounts that don't do much for the discussions. But I don't have access to enough data to know if they are really spammers or just newbies. I'm guessing a mix.

I get confused by the whole thing too, and there are some members who spend a lot of time RED Tagging these kinds of accounts, and I am glad that there are some members willing to engage in that kind of controversial work that also causes them to get sucked into the fray of forum politics, which once your "in" that kind of mess, it may become difficult to figure out a balance.  Here's a good recent and seemingly ongoing example of that kind of messy forum politics.

Realize that newbies should be welcomed here. If you want crypt to grow, and we all do, we need to make it so new people feel comfortable, not excluded.

I don't think that crypto's growth is necessarily dependent on newbies being able to easily rank up in this forum under something like the old forum rules.  It may well come to be that rank becomes more appreciated when it is earned, but also no one is really being stopped from posting in this forum based on rank, but if they are spamming, shit posting then they are going to have difficulties,... and yeah, the same is true that if you are just using the forum to read posts, but you are not really actively engaging, then you are not going to rank up very easily, either.


And thanks again for the Merit, especially since you disagree   Smiley
You have a lot of decent ideas and you might find that your ability to get 85 more merits may end up coming easier than you thought.. or that some tweaks could happen in the new merit system to make the seemingly formidable become more attainable.

Think of it like FB. They probably want to censor posts because they have their own worldview. But it's counter to their mission and would cripple users activity and then what happens? FB stops being useful to very many people (cough 'MySpace').


Even though I get the point that you are making here, it seems way too early to suggest that either FB is going down the myspace path or that this forum has any kind of similar downward spiraling fate.
19329  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 19, 2018, 09:58:17 PM
I think that I am already noticing a difference on the forum....And, I can see some use cases for how merits could be used to solicit contributions for quality research.  For example, if an sMerit contributor were to set up a thread offering merit for original content on a particular subject, then it would help focus the energy of the merit hunters in a constructive manner ---> I think we're really on to something brilliant with this merit system ---> of course, it will take some time to find it's equilibrium.  I have noticed, however, that some of the long time trust abusers are already trying to game the merit system and that sucks.


There are already a lot of threads that attempt variations on smerit give aways, and maybe more will spring up, because it is appears that members receive some merits just for creating an organized thread in that direction, especially if they might have some interesting or innovative approach or way to target their merit spending.

Here's  a list of some of the merit give away threads, and I think that there are other merit give away threads that are not listed in that thread.
19330  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 07:24:58 PM
scammers of cypherdoc/jbreher class

Exactly what do you assert I have done to scam anyone?

Pretend Bcash was a helpful and useful upgrade to Bitcoin instead of admitting it is a pre-mined (EDA) scam of the first order.  We don’t readily forget your fraud nor Peter R nor any other of your pals.

Let's unpack this. In what way is Bitcoin Cash a scam?

Hahahahaha go fuck yourself.  Bitcoin.com, EDA, Coinbase withholding, spam attacks, sock puppets,  massive paid social media campaigns, “Bcash is the real Bitcoin”.   I’m not going to spend all day spelling out the many and varied ways Bcash is a steaming fraud.  Now stop playing dumb and asking “innocent” questions and go back to r/BTC

What is "EDA"?  My brain is not converting this.
19331  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 07:11:15 PM
That's racist.

"ga" or "gah" are, for the most part, considered friendly, colloquial terms. "ger" is where things start turning ugly.

Racist is if I posted something like "My cracker".

"Cracka", or "Crackah" are acceptable colloquialisms, IMO, in an established relationship, to add further perspective.


That's what I like so much about this place...

Always learning helpful new information, and I am gonna have to try some of these variations in the real world and see how far they take me... .... I can hear myself already... "Are you fucking retarded Nigga, I am NOT using "er", can't you hear it in my enunciation? , plus I said it in a nice tone, especially the first time when I passed by you in the liquor store, and further I should not have to 'splain this kind of basic common sense to you."

Wish me luck with this...

Makes me also considered whether my bitcoin's have good and clear destination paths for some day after I am gone?
19332  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 07:02:42 PM
Big walls against LN spotted

https://youtu.be/DFZOrtlQXWc

God.  I watched about 5 minutes of that until I threw up in my mouth.


I like how he pretends to start off by objectively explaining what the LN is, but immediately jumps to biased negatives against it... talk about an agenda  Roll Eyes

I would have expected better from the BCash CEO  Grin

It is about a 20 minute video, and I made it about 2.5 minutes into it before I had to shut it off.

When the guy labels bitcoin (core) as the bitcoin fork of bitcoin and kind of rolled his eyes, and said something like the aspirations of segwit and lightning network failed to be realized.. blah blah blah.. ..   There is not enough time in the world to be wasting on that kind of distractive fantastical bullshit...
19333  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 06:38:34 PM
There are less than 100 Bcash nodes operational.  Looks like someone threw the switch on 500 AWS instances.



How exceptionally sad.  Embarrassed


Given the low levels of traffic, you really only need one node......

I think that they aspire towards "decentralization," which I seem to recall that in their "original vision white paper" they define decentralization as having a minimum of two nodes, perhaps Roger and Jihan were specifically mentioned in the "original vision white paper", though in practice, rather than theorizing, those two ratts will probably NOT be the bcash node last bag holders...  and will likely abandon the bcash node ship much earlier than two.  Sad but 110% completely true...  Cry
19334  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 19, 2018, 06:16:20 PM
sorry if this is already answered but you know we have 157 pages here, there is a way to know the overall unspent Merit here on forum? (maybe only for active member to get a more realisic number)


You can get your own unspent merit by attempting to spend a merit, but I believe that if the merit button is not available, then you have no available merit to spend.  

I believe that there is NOT a way, so far to see the unspent merit of other users; however, I believe that there had been some posts speculating on how many were available in total, and I believe Theymos did provide an overall number in one of his posts.

There are some other merit stats available, here which is also at the bottom of the merits page that is accessible on your personal profile page.

Edit: Whoops: I see that TryNinja beat me to it, and had largely already made a response with additional details, above.
19335  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 19, 2018, 06:07:33 PM
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And yet it's you two pathetic dipshits in this thread trolling all dissenting opinion. You contribute nothing of value, so it's best just to ignore you.

Ignoring might have served you well and saved you in the first place from getting your nosey little selfie involved in your made-up drama bullshit.  Roll Eyes   Tongue

Nothing wrong with providing contrarian views if you can attempt to stay on topic, make some kind of point and attempt to back up what you are saying.
19336  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 19, 2018, 11:47:02 AM
My merit(s) are finished, i gave them all

Is my account going to get more, let's say in a month, like an upgrade or it's one life things?
No more at all ?


Currently Theymos has designated 57 members as merit sources that receive a replenishing (on a monthly basis) supply of smerits that they can send to other members.

Every  other member is stuck with their initial distribution smerits (and sounds like you spent yours, which would have only been 1 or 2 smerits at your rank - or at least less than 5 smerits best case scenario), and can only obtain more smerits if 1) they receive merits from other members (which would earn them .5 smerits for every merit received), 2) they become designated as a merit source by Theymos or 3) if Theymos were to do some kind of smerit airdrop on some categories of members (which seems somewhat unlikely, but probably within his abilities to design and carry out some kind of an smerit airdrop).
19337  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 08:10:24 AM
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Dude, i'm not a shill, just a noob miner. Just recently started mining in 2013 and still keep half the coins I mine in cold storage. My dumba$$ lifestyle does require fiat on a regular basis.

Where would bitcorn be without us dumbass miners to secure and process ?

Maybe the dumbass part is that you subsequently explain a context that makes more sense?  Initially, you made a description that suggested that there is some kind of decent and widely applicable practice that is good to be taking 50% of your profits in fiatNever said that. I said "I sell 50% of my earnings daily"... when the more accurate description seems to be that supposedly, if you are to be believed with your shifting storyline, you are earning income in bitcoin and thereafter you are attempting to invest (or HODL) 50% of the coins...

In other words, your initial post were misleading, if you are attempting to be descriptive about what you are doing... so maybe the dumb-ass part is that you seem to be engaging in purposeful shifting of your story and attempting to mislead?  Hopefully you can work on that.   Tongue Tongue

No shifting storyline, re-read the thread "I sell 50% of my earnings daily". Actually its more of a hobby, not my main source of income

EDIT: I'd rather be a dumbass like me than smart like you

Well hopefully each of us appreciate ourselves for what we are, without necessarily devolving into unnecessary defensiveness, and in the end, we can learn and gain value for ourselves by interacting in this forum (whether this thread or otherwise).. hopefully... and decide on our own whether we need to tweak anything in our approach. 

I look forward to hearing more about your bitcoin experiences and opinions.... and hopefully we can get some mutual benefits from sharing such..  I already said what I feel that I needed to say.
19338  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 04:54:25 AM
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Dude, i'm not a shill, just a noob miner. Just recently started mining in 2013 and still keep half the coins I mine in cold storage. My dumba$$ lifestyle does require fiat on a regular basis.

Where would bitcorn be without us dumbass miners to secure and process ?

Maybe the dumbass part is that you subsequently explain a context that makes more sense?  Initially, you made a description that suggested that there is some kind of decent and widely applicable practice that is good to be taking 50% of your profits in fiat... when the more accurate description seems to be that supposedly, if you are to be believed with your shifting storyline, you are earning income in bitcoin and thereafter you are attempting to invest (or HODL) 50% of the coins...

In other words, your initial post were misleading, if you are attempting to be descriptive about what you are doing... so maybe the dumb-ass part is that you seem to be engaging in purposeful shifting of your story and attempting to mislead?  Hopefully you can work on that.   Tongue Tongue
19339  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 03:08:09 AM
It is a little mind boggling that anyone would sell during the weekend knowing they could sell for 10-20% more on Monday. Can a bear explain the mentality?

I'm not a bear but I will try to explain following a simple strategy that helps me sleep at night:
I sell 50% of my earnings daily, regardless of price.

 Invest -> Profit -> Protect



My strategy that helps me sleep at night is to convert all my daily earnings to bitcoin, regardless of price.


becoin = smart


grn = dumbass

 Wink

JayJuanGee = ultracrepidarian

I am actually a happy, financially diversified dumba$$


Seems like I be learning new words from the WO BIG hitters, yet I am not too sure if I am going to be able to use it any time soon... perhaps?  perhaps?  Usually, need to hear an idea several times before it sinks in.

Regarding your being happy, I am very glad for you to be in such a status.  

Regarding your supposed diversification status, I imagine that should be a good thing, and it seems to be the case that if some folks have already gotten rich through traditional investments, they may get a quite a bit more nervous to sleep in what they would consider to be very high levels of bitcoin... however, if bitcoin ends up being in the s-curve adoption and exponential growth that a lot of knowledgeable bitcoin investors believe, then your asserted practice of continuously skimming off profits seems quite likely to leave you way too fucking underinvested in bitcoin when the rocket leaves the launch pad.. and you might not be able to catch up.. unless you are able to team up with Elon Musk and get your own rocket to meet us already in bitcoiners some where in the outer regions.. .

But, whatever floats your boat.. if you want to constantly skim profits into dollars and that makes you happy, great for you, but it would have caused you to have a pretty fucking poor performance to HODLers if you had been employing that kind of strategy for bitcoin through its so far nine years of life, and you may well know you seemingly bank shill that there remains a decent possibility that bitcoin is still in its very early stages of growth and adoption.
19340  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 19, 2018, 02:40:40 AM
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We should have a list of merit sources, instead of theymos to be the one checking their sent merits, everybody should have access to their stats, only their stats matters.
Some people are deleting their posts with received merits, if I had a list of merit sources, I could check and see if any of them has ever merited a deleted post.

Actually, I had never really considered that particular problem of the deleted posts, and you may be correct that there should be ways to access information about deleted posts that had been merited - I am not sure whether the only means would be to list the merit sources; however, it could be one possible way. 

I am not really opposed to Theymos's initial decision to NOT reveal the merit sources - and it is likely that in the future that he will disclose that information - because, as you may recall, he also stated that he suspected that through time, members were going to be able to figure out who are the merit sources - which may be just a matter of one or two months seeing that some members are giving merits beyond what would have been their maximum possible level of initial distribution plus 1/2 of the merits that they subsequently received... Although there could also be some quirks in that hypothesized information in the likely event that Theymos also does have the power to selectively award sendable merits to members - and so there may be some mystery about whether he would actually employ such a sendable merit distribution to selected non-source members.
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