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1961  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Frycoin][FRY] - Shut up and take my money! Coin halving coming up! on: May 28, 2014, 12:16:13 PM
Issue solved, reports right now. Was a base problem hehe
Ok I will switch a couple of miners over at lunch time today. The issues was also affecting overall network reported hashrate though as it was telling the network  your pool was only doing 25-30K/s. But now I see your pool is reporting the correct hashrate to the network as the network has jumped to reflect your change.

This earlier effect was having a snowball effect, as it was falsely reporting hashrate to the network so pools were inaccurately reporting potential earning. Now Bitember is reporting accurate earnings for me, as before it was estimating I would get almost 250k per day now it is estimating 85K. And poor JonesD before your pool was estimating him at 6k Frycoin a day now it is reporting him at a more accurate 33k per day. It was also throwing off est network difficulty for the pools as well. But all is fixed now.

Poor me:-)
1962  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][QB] Quarkbar ★ Community Takeover ★ First coin with DarkgravityWave v3! on: May 28, 2014, 12:13:30 PM
Also I'd be for adding GPU-resistant algorithms (I know, this is just a race condition where we as dev have to keep changing the algorithms as soon as somebody managed to code a GPU-miner for it...) because it will increase the investment made into the coin and thus raise it's value on the longterm.
+1

+1 as well:-)
1963  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][QB] Quarkbar ★ Community Takeover ★ First coin with DarkgravityWave v3! on: May 28, 2014, 12:12:30 PM
Regarding PoS...I'm not a fan of it
Jonesd said something similar...

Just out of interest Jonesd and Obfuscode, in your professional opinions Wink what feature would you suggest for the coin at this stage?

We're basically looking for a way to have the network continue to support transactions once all coins are mined. POS is a way to do this, but it stimulates people to not spend their coins.

Proof of Take (POT)
I personally was thinking of doing the opposite of POS, where coins deteriorate over time if they are stored and not used. Part of the stored unused coins will be redistributed over the miners in this case. When a wallet has been offline for a long time and comes online again it can be punished with a certain deterioration of funds (1% / week up to maximum of 10% or something). In this scenario, people can also prevent deterioration by synching the wallet at least once a week.

This has the following benefits:
- Transactions can be free: This would make it possible to replace the fee on transactions with a fee on keeping the coins offline.
- Decrease only for not-contributing part: Active people are in the clear, but stored funds will decrease over time.
- No inflation: The coins get redistributed, but the total amount does not have to increase.

I would be more motivated to be part of the network in such a case!

Probably a lot of things to say against it, but idea is still in early stage. Smiley
I personally don't agree with this. Why? First you need to be able to spend your coins on something and If you don't have that will crash the price down. Who really wants to put money in something and 5 days later to be loosing already. We need to think about something else even If its not POS. But destroy coin because I don't have what to buy with, waiting for price to rise or not wanting to spending them is not a good idea. I hope we could find some ways to invent something else.

I did vote for Something Experimental just to be noted!

I have no intend to destroy coins, but partly redistribute them if the wallet rarely gets synched. This enables us to have the benefit that POS offers without creating new coins.

We're into this as a community so I believe this will spur the need for innovation, because it's in all our benefit to use the coins as money.

I believe the value lies in the practical use. Not in just storing it somewhere.
1964  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][66] ★Coin 66★ - Hard Fork - Mandatory Update - 2014/04/04 on: May 28, 2014, 11:58:43 AM
IRC meeting sounds good.

Give us a PM of when & where, I'll be glad to join and give some advise.

- f0o

Thanks, guys. You give me hope that not everyone is that selfish around here. I do believe one day we all going to have enough of everything and money want be need it anymore. Today's financial world is corrupt and unjust for most people. Cryptoz give some hope that we can build new world. I do dream of those days.




Smiley

Maybe you can already specify some of your questions and we can plan an open4all IRC meeting this Friday?
1965  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Frycoin][FRY] - Shut up and take my money! Coin halving coming up! on: May 28, 2014, 10:25:15 AM
Issue solved, reports right now. Was a base problem hehe

So much hashes! SUCH WOW!
1966  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Frycoin][FRY] - Shut up and take my money! Coin halving coming up! on: May 28, 2014, 10:15:38 AM
@Obfuscode

I am going to transfer one of my workers to your pool when I get home from work to help balance out the two pools. I do not think your pool is reporting hashrate correctly however. The other day when I was mining there I was doing 1.1Mh/s on my end but the pool never listed me as above 250Kh/s
I will check into this further this evening, I will transfer one card over to your pool and monitor the hashrate both on the pool end and my end. I know fluctuations happen but the gap I experienced yesterday was ginormous to what I usually experience.

Edit: I am using one of my miners which is doing 250-270Kh/s and my dashboard is reporting 25-27Kh/s - this is also only being reported to the network at 25-27kh/s

Hi,

I just had a look.. the Network is being reported with 2 Mh/s at the moment and I can't see your miner..
The reported hashrates are strongly influenced by the aggressive vardiff we're running.
So your miner will always report a higher hashrate than the MPOS frontend.
But for each submitted hash you can get up to 8192 shares on a beefy rig.

I will keep an eye on your miner and see if there are any high discrepancies Smiley

- f0o
I removed the miner after 3 hours of hashing last night when I noticed the site only reporting it doing 10% of what it was doing on my end. Of that 2Mh/s i am doing 1.85 of it. which is what Bitember reports my miners as doing which is roughly inline with what I am doing. Sometimes more sometimes less but never off by a great degree.


@JonesD - what are your miners doing on your end for hashrate, the pool reports you at 25Kh/s which is what it is telling the network.

Those stats are a bit off, but my 25k/s is actually 400 kh/s. I do get the coin rewards I was expecting, so it is just a reporting issue. I mine at obfuscode to support their earlier effort to help the coin. Maybe it is best to spread your hashes if possible Smiley
1967  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][66] ★Coin 66★ - Hard Fork - Mandatory Update - 2014/04/04 on: May 28, 2014, 10:09:54 AM
Dear all,
after having verified the feasability of your initiative, I'm now more than doubtful. In essence, without having the developer's full credentials (i.e. without a complete handover by pikimunga / menzo) you can't take over the development and support of the coin, so you cannot update the wallet as you want and assume that your 66 coins are recognised by the network. On the contrary, you'll create a new coin, or an unrecognised clone of it, and of course the distribution of those coins will start from scratch. As already shared with all of you, a fork of 66 coin - a project dying because of the disappearance of the developer - is not a good idea, first of all for marketing reasons.

Consequently, I won't join in, but of course I respect your legitimate point of view. In parallel,  I and my team will go on with the development of the new coin, providing you with all info and news and asking for your opinion as so far happened. And once more I can confirm that the possibility to exchange 66 coins with the new coin will be offered to the whole 66 coin community.



You're wrong. Coins are just like open source where you can take the code and make changes. If everybody accepts this new version, it's not a copy, but simply the new direction of the existing coin (old blockchain in there). We did this with quarkbar and it worked out great!:-)

Come on Jonesd find us some programmers so we can change the Algo and open our own pools.  Who's the person I can speak with? We will collect some funds.

I will talk with the team today and maybe we can arrange an IRC meeting. We might be able to offer some assistance.

We will greatly appreciate your help. Thanks, Jonesd

You're welcome Smiley Team members are pretty busy, so could also take till Friday, but I'll let you know.
1968  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][QB] Quarkbar ★ Community Takeover ★ First coin with DarkgravityWave v3! on: May 28, 2014, 08:58:18 AM
Regarding PoS...I'm not a fan of it
Jonesd said something similar...

Just out of interest Jonesd and Obfuscode, in your professional opinions Wink what feature would you suggest for the coin at this stage?

We're basically looking for a way to have the network continue to support transactions once all coins are mined. POS is a way to do this, but it stimulates people to not spend their coins.

Proof of Take (POT)
I personally was thinking of doing the opposite of POS, where coins deteriorate over time if they are stored and not used. Part of the stored unused coins will be redistributed over the miners in this case. When a wallet has been offline for a long time and comes online again it can be punished with a certain deterioration of funds (1% / week up to maximum of 10% or something). In this scenario, people can also prevent deterioration by synching the wallet at least once a week.

This has the following benefits:
- Transactions can be free: This would make it possible to replace the fee on transactions with a fee on keeping the coins offline.
- Decrease only for not-contributing part: Active people are in the clear, but stored funds will decrease over time.
- No inflation: The coins get redistributed, but the total amount does not have to increase.

I would be more motivated to be part of the network in such a case!

Probably a lot of things to say against it, but idea is still in early stage. Smiley
1969  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][66] ★Coin 66★ - Hard Fork - Mandatory Update - 2014/04/04 on: May 28, 2014, 08:29:02 AM
Dear all,
after having verified the feasability of your initiative, I'm now more than doubtful. In essence, without having the developer's full credentials (i.e. without a complete handover by pikimunga / menzo) you can't take over the development and support of the coin, so you cannot update the wallet as you want and assume that your 66 coins are recognised by the network. On the contrary, you'll create a new coin, or an unrecognised clone of it, and of course the distribution of those coins will start from scratch. As already shared with all of you, a fork of 66 coin - a project dying because of the disappearance of the developer - is not a good idea, first of all for marketing reasons.

Consequently, I won't join in, but of course I respect your legitimate point of view. In parallel,  I and my team will go on with the development of the new coin, providing you with all info and news and asking for your opinion as so far happened. And once more I can confirm that the possibility to exchange 66 coins with the new coin will be offered to the whole 66 coin community.

You're wrong. Coins are just like open source where you can take the code and make changes. If everybody accepts this new version, it's not a copy, but simply the new direction of the existing coin (old blockchain in there). We did this with quarkbar and it worked out great!:-)

Come on Jonesd find us some programmers so we can change the Algo and open our own pools.  Who's the person I can speak with? We will collect some funds.

I will talk with the team today and maybe we can arrange an IRC meeting. We might be able to offer some assistance.
1970  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][QB] Quarkbar ★ Community Takeover ★ First coin with DarkgravityWave v3! on: May 28, 2014, 08:24:09 AM
INTERESTING FACT

Did you know it's really easy to mine some Quarkbar with your own laptop directly via your wallet?

HOW?
1. Open Quarkbar Wallet
2. Go to help>debug window
3. type:
Code:
setgenerate true
and press enter
4. Mining starts and right now it takes about 60 minutes to mine one block by yourself. (depending on your laptop)
5. Block will show up as immature and it will take a while before it is minted and added to your balance.

If you want to stop mining again (computer getting hot) you can go to the console and type:
Code:
setgenerate false
and press enter

Here a screenshot so you know what it looks like:)
1971  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][66] ★Coin 66★ - Hard Fork - Mandatory Update - 2014/04/04 on: May 28, 2014, 07:13:47 AM
Dear all,
after having verified the feasability of your initiative, I'm now more than doubtful. In essence, without having the developer's full credentials (i.e. without a complete handover by pikimunga / menzo) you can't take over the development and support of the coin, so you cannot update the wallet as you want and assume that your 66 coins are recognised by the network. On the contrary, you'll create a new coin, or an unrecognised clone of it, and of course the distribution of those coins will start from scratch. As already shared with all of you, a fork of 66 coin - a project dying because of the disappearance of the developer - is not a good idea, first of all for marketing reasons.

Consequently, I won't join in, but of course I respect your legitimate point of view. In parallel,  I and my team will go on with the development of the new coin, providing you with all info and news and asking for your opinion as so far happened. And once more I can confirm that the possibility to exchange 66 coins with the new coin will be offered to the whole 66 coin community.

You're wrong. Coins are just like open source where you can take the code and make changes. If everybody accepts this new version, it's not a copy, but simply the new direction of the existing coin (old blockchain in there). We did this with quarkbar and it worked out great!:-)
1972  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][QB] Quarkbar ★ Community Takeover ★ First coin with DarkgravityWave v3! on: May 28, 2014, 07:08:30 AM
Looking at the current poll results (and previous poll results) is it really a good idea to let a random group of users with wildly varying degrees of knowledge regarding crypto decide the future of this coin? (or any coin)
I will cite the fact that there are votes for 'keep it as it is' as evidence. I mean c'mon really?

I elect that we trust decisions such as these to the CRF since they will be a consistent pool of voters and have proven more than once that they are up to the task.

This is of course dependent upon POS being the chosen direction of the coin Wink

Also the fact that people choose Matt Damon. This should be a serious poll. There have been great things happening for this coins. But in reality we are still a very small coin and need to bring a lot of new people into this coin.

This poll is to find out what people like. The first option is saying you want something totally new and the other options give you the chance to be specific. The Matt Damon option is a joke, but basically the same as "I don't know".

In this case the poll is a good way to get everybody to voice their wishes. We will use this to select less options and give that up for a final vote.

I believe this is the best way because we need community support to make this coin big! We're in this together:-)
1973  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][66] ★Coin 66★ - Hard Fork - Mandatory Update - 2014/04/04 on: May 27, 2014, 09:41:40 PM
im in 66 revive coin - marketing, could help with advices!


Brilliant. That makes us 2 then. Anyone else want to join in?

I am in.

Strength is in the community:-)
1974  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][66] ★Coin 66★ - Hard Fork - Mandatory Update - 2014/04/04 on: May 27, 2014, 02:51:33 PM
I see you guys are considering starting a new coin, but I don't really see how this relates to 66coin itself. Wouldn't it be better to get the supporters of this coin together and take over the source, the communication and the coin itself? Piku did this before, but he bailed. Maybe someone else is up for the challenge?

At the Cryptocoin Revival Foundation we did this for Quarkbar and is has proven to be extremely effective!
I don't really mind reviving this coin as I said before. Community is important. Jonesd, Do you know how can you take the code without the old developer?

Basically we're talking about open source code here. You can just take the original code (https://github.com/66maintainer/66coin) and start a new account on github and publish it there. Then you can give people access and let them add features to the code. From this you can update the wallets and also start new pools (no pool possible right now, right?). Also starting a new bitcointalk topic where you manage the first post makes it easier for people to find out what's going on.

This however is a large responsibility and a big hassle (you have to stay on top of it). Managing this well makes it much more likely to be taken on by our foundation as a focus coin, since you have got the communication already in hand.

Who's up for the challenge? Smiley
Jonesd can you vouch for us in front of the Cryptocoin Revival Foundation? We need someone with programing skills and someone who can set up a pool. We need someone to change the Algo and analyze the code to see how much premine is there, and so on. We can make a team from the current owners of 66 coin who will manage its revival.  

Sure I can vouch, but the community has to decide it wants to adopt your coin. In the short run you need to take over the code and bitcointalk thread to get the community up and running again. This is vital for the revival of 66coin. At the moment the foundation is not going to take on a project of this kind, but will focus on Quarkbar. For the successful revival of coins we need at least one person of the community to step up and do the first revival steps. Patch it up before it dies.

Another option is to create a new coin like you were discussing, but it does not seem a logical solution to me.

1975  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHA]SHACoin - UPDATED - READ NOW - POS/POW SHA256 on: May 27, 2014, 01:15:12 PM
NEWSFLASH!
We managed to find back many of the premine coins in Quarkbar and also traced this back to the trading account of the scammer. It turns out he was also connected to the scam of Beecoin and Shacoin. Allcoin has decided to divide the 0.45BTC in frozen assets among the Beecoin, Shacoin and Quarkbar community

Read it all here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=621906.msg6948724#msg6948724

this is really good news for SHACoin... my wallet has been staking like a witch in vatican city... can we be sure that the entire premine is gone?
will we be back on exchanges soon do you think?

I have no clue what the state is at SHAcoin itself now. Who is in control of your coin now?

hello.

It is good the whole community to have a Cryptocoin Revival Foundation.

The current state is I have collected the Donations from the community.
There was two dev contact me, but I am unable to contact them these days.
They seem not to have time or have some special reason or need a lot of time to be
able to repair our wallet.

so the true is I do not know when it will be able to have a new wallet.

If your CRF can take it over, we are quite welcome.

We are currently focusing on reviving quarkbar, but welcome you to build the community and take on the management of this coin. That way it will be much more likely to take on the coin in the future. I just explained the same to the people at 66coin, so you can check out that post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=493987.msg6969178#msg6969178
1976  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][QB] Quarkbar ★ Community Takeover ★ First coin with DarkgravityWave v3! on: May 27, 2014, 12:51:43 PM
Quarkbar added to voting on usecryptos!
Non-paid votes ONLY!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=487854.0


Nice! I will tweet about it Smiley
1977  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][66] ★Coin 66★ - Hard Fork - Mandatory Update - 2014/04/04 on: May 27, 2014, 12:50:24 PM
I see you guys are considering starting a new coin, but I don't really see how this relates to 66coin itself. Wouldn't it be better to get the supporters of this coin together and take over the source, the communication and the coin itself? Piku did this before, but he bailed. Maybe someone else is up for the challenge?

At the Cryptocoin Revival Foundation we did this for Quarkbar and is has proven to be extremely effective!
I don't really mind reviving this coin as I said before. Community is important. Jonesd, Do you know how can you take the code without the old developer?

Basically we're talking about open source code here. You can just take the original code (https://github.com/66maintainer/66coin) and start a new account on github and publish it there. Then you can give people access and let them add features to the code. From this you can update the wallets and also start new pools (no pool possible right now, right?). Also starting a new bitcointalk topic where you manage the first post makes it easier for people to find out what's going on.

This however is a large responsibility and a big hassle (you have to stay on top of it). Managing this well makes it much more likely to be taken on by our foundation as a focus coin, since you have got the communication already in hand.

Who's up for the challenge? Smiley
1978  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][66] ★Coin 66★ - Hard Fork - Mandatory Update - 2014/04/04 on: May 27, 2014, 11:08:15 AM
I see you guys are considering starting a new coin, but I don't really see how this relates to 66coin itself. Wouldn't it be better to get the supporters of this coin together and take over the source, the communication and the coin itself? Piku did this before, but he bailed. Maybe someone else is up for the challenge?

At the Cryptocoin Revival Foundation we did this for Quarkbar and is has proven to be extremely effective!
1979  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Frycoin][FRY] - Shut up and take my money! Coin halving coming up! on: May 27, 2014, 10:55:51 AM
Hi,

we were able to find the issue.

Minebig are still running a node with a very high uptime so it was used as the preferred node for syncs.
However Minebig's node is advertising a malicious chain and is spamming the entire network with rejects.
Ironically even blocks from our own node were rejected by the pool-wallet.

After blacklisting Minebig's node on our router we were able to sync up to the correct chain.

We apologize for the issues.

Nicely fixed!
1980  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][QB] Quarkbar ★ Community Takeover ★ First coin with DarkgravityWave v3! on: May 27, 2014, 10:54:25 AM
tweeted

Thanks Smiley

I will put it in the op as well Smiley
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