so now that the discussion on leaving bittrex is closed and settled, who can we blame for the price that keeps dropping?
You will have to wait until biomike is done selling.  I don't blame him but the court case against him must be "fake" as it was claimed to be coming from a community member. @Biomike can you clarify if this was a "fake news" threat? It was a dead rabbit pulled out of Rijks hat.  |
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I promise Rijk and his father this that if they go throught with a courtcase against anybody (Rich P. , Biomike) then i am going to ask people to donate money for a courtcase vs Rijk to look if it has all been gone right with his pre-mine of 60 Million Gulden which he now says he owns.......
Yes, if it comes to this let's raise funds...in NLG's  that would be great for the newspapers  Then we have to raise more then 60M Gulden otherwise we lose from Rijk. I think his father also owns some Gulden. He can buy a lot of Gulden with his hourly wage Who says I'm not helping the rates go up here? |
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Meanwhile, at the risk of getting jailed for it, here is the latest rate of Gulden:  Just like the approval rates of the MSM |
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It's funny how different people here compare the Trump/MSM/Left/Right in different ways to Gulden.
Me, I compare myself more to Alex Jones and InfoWars. Trying to set blatant lies straight that the main stream Gulden media tries to spread. Looks like Rijk and his dad try to compare themselves to the deep state, trying to bully everyone that is not in line with their desired narrative.
We are the resistance!
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In the previous thread, you had an evasive attitude, Rich Pismann, with just a remark about sleeping.
So here is the question again:
Rich Pismann, would you like to start a conversation with the real Rijk Plasman? I can arrange that for you.
Well, I have had numerous conversations with him already in the past and followed some recent ones as well. I can honestly tell you, the last thing I would like is to be involved in another conversation where no actual answers are given and only rhetorical questions are returned. To avoid further risk of evasiveness: NO, not interested! Can you provide evidence of those conversations? Because I do see answers to all sorts of probing questions about premine and shares and so on from Rijk in Slack and other social media, but these are answers that you apparently don't want to hear. But I've never seen a dialogue about your allegations, and because you have an anonymous account, it can't have come to a dialogue at all. So come up with proof and otherwise my offer remains valid that I am going to arrange a conversation between you two. Perhaps I can save us all some trouble. I don't have to provide anything to you and have nothing to prove, especially not to a dead rabbit. I try to support my "allegations" all the time as much as I can with facts, so that is what you have to deal with. I owe you nothing and expect nothing back in return. Since this one of the few places where everyone gets to speak freely, perhaps Rijk can join us here and I'm than happy to engage in any discussion he likes. I've had enough of back channels and closed groups. And if Rijk has given all the answers on premine and shares elsewhere I haven't noticed. Please point me where he has provided the address of them or a ledger with spendings. So far, all I've read were evasive "answers" disguised as questions. All the time it comes down to, the premine is mine and mine alone, not your business, it's personal. |
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In the previous thread, you had an evasive attitude, Rich Pismann, with just a remark about sleeping.
So here is the question again:
Rich Pismann, would you like to start a conversation with the real Rijk Plasman? I can arrange that for you.
Well, I have had numerous conversations with him already in the past and followed some recent ones as well. I can honestly tell you, the last thing I would like is to be involved in another conversation where no actual answers are given and only rhetorical questions are returned. To avoid further risk of evasiveness: NO, not interested! |
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I'm more than happy to disclose my true identity to any official bailiff with a warrant! Would be fun!
no you not willing to do that, otherwise disclose it now use real nickname for your next round of lies , we all know you carry on behind pissman name because you too coward I'm fine as it is thanks. But since you are to coward to even try and prepare a case, I guess I'll cary on. It's up to you. Surely if you can get a couple of thousand Euro's to fund a foothold tournament that had zero exposure. Exposing the evil Pissman must be funded in no-time. It would be the great defeat of the enemy! Go for it, please do!!! |
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To bad we had to close the previous thread. It shows that some people use legal threats to force their will. Although I have my doubts these threats are real, I'd rather not risk them. All I wanted was some decent discussion, but it seems some people can't handle that.
that you close it show that you know you and your pissman friend crosed legal boundary otherwise you would not close, be man and admit No, it shows he is smart enough to distance himself from the childish anonymous Gulden trolls and be the wiser. But please go fundraise the legal fees and produce a solid case against me. I'm more than happy to disclose my true identity to any official bailiff with a warrant! Would be fun! I do wonder on what grounds they would want to prosecute you It was a shallow threat. Biomike sent me a copy in PM. They were rambling he was complicit to me in slandering Rijk and Gulden. He enabled people like me to do these illegal things (in the Gulden ward, proving negative facts is against the gulden law you know) by keeping his thread open. So he was given the choice to close the thread or prepare for legal action. Sad bunch of wankers they are indeed! |
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To bad we had to close the previous thread. It shows that some people use legal threats to force their will. Although I have my doubts these threats are real, I'd rather not risk them. All I wanted was some decent discussion, but it seems some people can't handle that.
that you close it show that you know you and your pissman friend crosed legal boundary otherwise you would not close, be man and admit No, it shows he is smart enough to distance himself from the childish anonymous Gulden trolls and be the wiser. But please go fundraise the legal fees and produce a solid case against me. I'm more than happy to disclose my true identity to any official bailiff with a warrant! Would be fun! |
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This thread is now open to discuss Gulden in any way, without any other restrictions, besides unlawful things that are already effective by the rules of this forum. Let this be a place where everyone can say what they want, without any suppression. Freedom of speech and Gulden, they truly can co-exist! This is a followup from this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3116357.0 |
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Rich Pismann, would you like to start a conversation with the real Rijk Plasman? I can arrange that for you.
Not even a reaction? Some people do sleep you know |
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I do like your creativity btw Johnny!  What was that saying again? Something with split tongues? |
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looks like a great deal. Nice cartoon btw, not too creative on the account name though, but that is an issue you have more often.
Losing track of your suck-puppet accounts as well? |
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somehow you get the feeling that RichPissman thinks (part of) the premine is public property. Like Rijk owe's him part of it. Which of course is not the case. I don't care what Rijk does with the money. So far all i can say is that great development has been made by the devs. So what if they lend 4 million NLG to Nocks. The Nocks teams is great. How they create an easy to use layer between Gulden and fiat money is amazing. I think they deserve to keep the 4m NLG for all their hard work ;-).
I don't need any part of the premine. I do think however the premine was falsely turned from being community funds to Rijks private asset. In the beginning (even during the selloff where community members bought premine for BTC (shares)) Rijk was very aware of the fact that selling premine for personal gain would have meant the end of his reign (or even Gulden as a whole). He therefor sneakily created the plan together with Roel from Nocks to "help out" their shop (remember, they had no exchange back then!). with 4.5mm G from the premine. After they sold that for prices from 7K sat all the way up to 13K sat in Euro's, they didn't buy it back from the market as they should have, no they just kept the proceeds and shared it with Rijk. Back then we called that stealing from the community. They lied intensively about it ever since and even erased it from all the sites and timelines and banned everyone that raised questions about it. Hell, they even lied about having been contacted by Slack to setup a new account with heavy redactions due to scammers (never happened to any other slack channel!) This obviously was done to control the masses, by making them identify themselves with Linked in or... Nocks accounts! Development (tech wise) and Nocks (tech wise) are indeed very promising. But who are responsible for that? Gulden=Malcolm, Nocks=Patrick. Not Rijk and Roel, yet they are the ones that cashed out millions by fooling the community! Oogjes dicht, snaveltjes toe! |
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Meanwhile Nocks is outselling Bittrex again. Sub 500 incoming folks. But, of course, this is all the fault of BTC and the evil crypto people! Sweet dreams Gulden sheep! Eyes shut and "snaveltjes toe"   |
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A lot of big tech companies censor people if they feel those people are doing a lot of harm to their brand and image. Google has banned Alex Jones recently.
And you think that's a good thing? If so, please join the official Gulden slack! Be sure to behave though. Like, don't ask any critical questions about transparency. Do you hold a lot of Gulden, I don't hold enough to get that involved , it will change if the price drops below 400 sat. I own enough, but Gulden is only a small part of my portfolio, so I could care less atm. I don't believe for 1 second that people are censored from slack without good reason.
Well, lets do this fun experiment then! You register on the official slack and ask any one of these legit questions: - "Can we get insight into the remaining part of the premine, an address perhaps?" - "Can you tell us what is left of the 650 BTC the community paid in return for "shares" that you later described as just BTC traded for Gulden from that premine?" - "Are there any records of funds spend this far on development, including salaries of the team?" - "In October 2016 Rijk lend over 4 million Gulden out to Nocks due to their "low supply" in the big rally. How was that paid back and to whom?" I know the outcome already, but I think it would be a good learning curve for you! |
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A lot of big tech companies censor people if they feel those people are doing a lot of harm to their brand and image. Google has banned Alex Jones recently.
And you think that's a good thing? If so, please join the official Gulden slack! Be sure to behave though. Like, don't ask any critical questions about transparency. |
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yeah on this open and free channel you are getting a lot of acclaim on this statement :-)
like i said: nobody in my closed ward cares
Does Rijk even know you are on the forbidden forum? Hasn't he already made you all put it in your blacklist? why you not paste as your real latex nickname? are you too coward? is it hard being a washed up old loser who nobody follow, is that why you dedicate your life to hating on rijk because you secretly wish you were him? better looking than you more success more liked it must be hard for you latex so hard Well, that's an old one, almost forgot the obsession you guys had with latex. I'm even honored you would make that assumption! But I have to disappoint you. I do come from that generation though, so you are getting warm But since we are all opening up here, whats your real name mr. Dorca / JimJimJim / Richman / WetNappyMan? |
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yeah on this open and free channel you are getting a lot of acclaim on this statement :-)
like i said: nobody in my closed ward cares
Does Rijk even know you are on the forbidden forum? Hasn't he already made you all put it in your blacklist? |
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do you have that story on your notepad or have you typed that freshly every 121 times you put that on this forum?
I will type it 121 hundred thousand times more again if needed. It's the truth, so why wouldn't I? Fun part is, HERE I can! On all Gulden controlled channels I could only type it once (maybe two) times. Then... BAN and REMOVE. Fun part is: Here nobody cares. On the Gulden controlled channels nobody cares. Nobody cares. Yes, that also is perfectly clear to me already. Nobody on the Gulden controlled channels care about the truth. They just blindly follow Rijk and hope every day they get to stay in the circle. Heaven forbid to challenge the great leader, you might be the next to get banned. |
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