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201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 11, 2016, 05:03:30 PM
Hi.  Does the thin wallet still generate 5% interest  ?
Thanks

No there is no staking possible on app wallets or hd lite wallets
202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 10, 2016, 11:42:14 AM
Devs can i add to wallet of NAVcoin... my game ?Cheesy


What do you mean? Over all we are happy for everyone who is putting effort to bring us forward.

Perhaps you make a small writeup and send it to navcoindev@gmail.com

Best regards
Shahim
203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 09, 2016, 02:54:22 PM
Quote from: shahim But like i said i will wait for your new whitepaper.
Please surprise me.


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We will give all our best to do so! So let's finish here and we work on!

Have a good weekend
Regards
Shahim
204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 09, 2016, 01:09:18 PM
hehe you are typicall aussie ;-) crazy bs 

205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 09, 2016, 12:40:27 PM
We are using a different system, using a Subchain to transport sending information from one node to a random other node. Using this we break the information on the nav blockchain. There is no transaction between you amd receiver, which can be traced, since the recipient do not get the coins you did send.
The working principles of these anon coins are really confusing. Sometimes I wonder whether these principles actually really work. For example, when you just do a mixing like Dash ... then you mix 3 transactions. But if I send 9.34313 Dash via a Masternode to B, then B will receive exactly 9.34313 Dash. How big are the odds that around that time someone else also sends this exact amount of Dash ? So it makes the mixing a useless operation. Or did I misunderstand something ?

Monero has a more complex scheme. I don't know the details for sure, but I remember it had something to do with a bunch of addresses that are generated and your money will be send in pieces over all those addresses and then from those addresses it will be send to the receiver. Take the encryption away, and then I still think you can find out who send the coins. If B receives 2.7 XMR from a 10 addresses ... then you know that this sum probably comes from the same source addresses. So if you trace back, you can easily find who sent the coins. Fortunately for XMR it uses encryption. And that's where its value can be found. Again ... did I misunderstand something ?

NAV uses a subchain. But if you take away the encryption then it is again possible to trace back who sent the coins. The decoupling via the subchain doesn't help much. You know that at 16.00 h 9.35 NAV has been sent to the subchain and that at 16.01 h someone received 9.35 NAV. So not difficult to trace back. But the strength lies in the encryption. So nobody can see how much you sent, which makes it impossible to trace back who sent the coins.

I openly admit I know nothing about these cryptostuff ... but following my logic I don't see why there is this mixing and subchain. At this moment with my limited knowledge, these things look rather useless. The strength comes only from the encryption schemes. Please, if I am not right, correct me. I am always happy to learn something. These anon coins are interesting  Smiley



Dear Diago,

Thank you very much for your kind questions, let me answer them one by one.

NAV ANON is in no way associated with DASH technology or masternode systems. It currently uses a Gateway to channel through particular transaction , this transaction information is encrypted and channeled through a subchain , where the transaction is then processed and directed to the destination address where the transaction arrives at the destination address in clusters. And there is in no way mixing used in the process where transactions are mixed to obtain an untraceable advantage. For the fact that our model itself is untraceable.

Double encryption is used in the channeling and throughout the entire process.

1. No-mixing - Due to the fact that the model of channeling doesn't require such process.

2. Untraceable - Due to the fact that there won't ever be 1 transaction of the same kind anywhere on the network.

Please do let me know , if you need further clarifications.

Warm Regards,
~SoopY~


Hello soopy,

I really tried in good faith. But it seems you people try to avoid a clear explanations how your system will work.
I read your "whitepaper" which is a graphical illustration at best (it looked like someone watched to much stargate the series). We neither see code, maths or talking about possible attack vectors etc. Pp.

I will just wait for your new "whitepaper" or a clear explaination until then i would say be careful to not be a future bagholder.


Also what is this claim about a fast/instamine?

Hello criptix,

in all respect, but what do you expect to get? As already anounced by pakage we are going to bring all this open source soon. He is bringing weekly updates about his progress and also giving more and more technical details on his posts.
The "old" whitepaper is quite detailed about the processing of the anon transaction in comparision to a normal transaction. As you perhaps understand we won't give code or something to public until it is under open source license. As you said, you have to wait to the new whitepaper.

regards
shahim
206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 09, 2016, 07:51:48 AM
I noticed that there is no wallet app for MAC OS X. Are there any plans for such?

We are compinling at least lite mac right now!
207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 09, 2016, 06:24:05 AM
Many p&d coins today  Undecided .Here is real coin.  Kiss

1000% + FLDC, that is just crazy!

It's sad for the noobs that got stuck with it at the top. I hate P&Ds.... They take advantage of new traders.

I'm one of these newb traders. New to the whole digital currency thing really. Started out just buying a bitcoin to hold in a wallet for the future. Then I discovered Poloniex. I should have spent a lot more time researching and watching the exchange scene before playing in it. I saw that one could make some extra coins here and there and got excited. Just recently figured out what FOMO meant lol. So I bought some ethers on Coinbase and sent them to Polo. Made every newb mistake there is. Traded in and out ETC/BTC, ETH/BTC, and XMR/BTC pairs and lost 1.5 BTC in panic selling. At one point, I had 231 XMRs bought at around .00734. If I had only held on to them and not sold them in a panic, I would have been doing pretty good. Desperate to make up the difference (my kids kept asking me how I was doing, they had me buy them a couple of ethers), I tried to ride the NAV pump at 12200 but got in too late and stayed in too long trying to cover. I don't want to make the same mistake I did with XMR so I guess I will be holding my NAVs until better times. I refuse to make the same mistake a 5th time. Smiley

After realizing I would be holding onto these NAV coins for awhile, I then looked more into this coin. Yes, I know I should have looked into it before trading in. From the sounds of all the info, it has a lot of promise, even more so than XMR. Hopefully development continues to move along and progress soon.

Mate,

I can tell you, you are not alone, we all made these mistakes in the beginning and lost a lot of theoretical profit! Me also lost like at least 10 btc on "panic tradings" and scams back in 2014 and 2015. I stoped and only trust myself now.  
Never buy what the trolls on polo tell you! Always investigate time reading into a coin history or plans before buying, otherwise you will loose with scam coins etc. It is the same like on real trademarket. No trader will invest before he knows what he is investing into!

regards
shahim
208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 08, 2016, 08:26:32 PM

Mate,

NAVcoin evolved from NAVAJOCOIN and that evolved from Summercoin.

NONE of those coins were pre-mined. I have the privilege of having mined Summercoin back in 2014.

NAVcoin is in POS stage since Summercoin.

The list on the rich list are real investors that put money and mining power when this project was in diapers. And if you look constantly you will find that that list doesn't change much.

NAV is a genuine coin with a very supportive community and dedicated DEV team.

Salud!

Aguante Boca!

Ok, awesome. I never said the NAV dev team are scammers nor NAV. I never got that feeling which is why I invested in NAV in July. I actually wanted to invest in it already in March but back then I didn't know how to buy cryptocurrencies. Actually I managed to get in this world thanks to Steemit. Without Steemit I would still not be able to buy NAV  Grin Steemit forced me to learn it because else I wouldn't be able to get my Steem Dollars.

But shouldn't this be corrected in coinmarketcap than ? Adam Meister sent me a link to Tone Vays in which he says that 90 % of premined coins are pump and dump scams. An error like this in coinmarketcap could make people hesitate to invest in NAV.



Hi mate,

Thnx for clearing this. But where does you see any information about mining on coinmarketcap?  Do you mean the max supply information?  But you know that we are a POS coin and not a POW coin like bitcoin. There are many pos coins on the market, which can not be mined like bitcoin. It is another way of keeping the network alive which is not using massive power consumption like bitcoin.  

May you be so kind and link me to that comment where this adam meister says we are premine scam? I really would love to clear that up with him. I have searched fir that name and only found YouTube videos. When i check the name on here, i find a nick called bitcoinmeister. But he is a quite new account from 2015 and only few posts,  which even do not have interesting content.

We are here since beginning of 2014 and have proved not to be a scam coin nor team!

If you don't want to post that link here, please send me a pm.

Thank you very much.
Shahim
209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 08, 2016, 07:57:27 PM
Does the mobile wallet stake?

No, staking is only available for full node wallets. With the mobile or hd wallet there is no staking possible!

Regards
210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 08, 2016, 04:57:15 PM
Obviously all these guys do know nothing about our history and perhaps the small difference between proof of work and proof of stake.

Gott lass Hirn regnen...
211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 08, 2016, 02:18:43 PM
dranster just won a place on the delete bot list!

edit: sorry mate, but you are creating new threads with false fake information, just to insecure users and you are calling us a scamcoin!

danster, the price is at 9500 and climbing  Grin Grin buy back while you still can LOL, what a dick you are hahhaa

I like your avatar text Smiley *smile*
212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 08, 2016, 02:10:32 PM
dranster just won a place on the delete bot list!

edit: sorry mate, but you are creating new threads with false fake information, just to insecure users and you are calling us a scamcoin!
213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 08, 2016, 01:51:02 PM
hehe nice that people get interested into how anon works.

Just beside:

"If I send 9.345 NAV to the subchain in a nonencrypted way"  

There is no way sending it nonencrypted. Every subchain node receiving a non encrypted or wrong encrypted data, will directly cancell the process and return the coins to the senders address.  Smiley No encryption is like a invalid tx for the node!
214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 08, 2016, 04:39:51 AM
That is what i tried to say...  Lol there is mo mixing or masternodes.  There is just no proofable link between sender and recipient
Anyone could have send the coins.
215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 07, 2016, 08:59:34 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoinJoin

Can you please tell me main differences?
For me it seems you guys are doing exactly this. (Bolded in your text)

Also can you please explain the last Bolded part in more detail please? I'm not quite sure what you mean with it.

Thank you for your time.

-snip-


Hello package,


Thanks for your answer even though I don't really think you understood me.

So as far as I understand you use two block chains and the second blockchain obfuscate the address of the receiver via encryption.

The second blockchain has nodes that has a certain amount of Nav pooled.

The second blockchain does a mixing like coinjoin/dash mixing etc pp.

I see no difference except it seems the mixing works on the blockchain instead on a single server (coinjoin) but very similar to master nodes (dash).

Correct?




Hey package,

That was my reply you didnt see.

Hi,

No, not correct like you said. Dash masternode is building a chain of sendings where in the end the tx got send in small chunks to the recipient. But all happens on the same chain and is "traceable". With much affort, of course.

Coinjoin is on a server where you want to send like 2 bitcoin to a person. You send like 3btc and get back 1 while the server sends 2 to the person. I hope i understand that correct. But at the end i think so...

We are using a different system, using a Subchain to transport sending information from one node to a random other node. Using this we break the information on the nav blockchain. There is no transaction between you amd receiver, which can be traced, since the recipient do not get the coins you did send.

So it is not a mixing service. Have you read the original whitepaper?  It is quite good explanation in there.

Google navajocoin whitepaper and the decentralization whitepaper.

Regards
Shahim

Edit: reading your last posts make me think you are German. Ich denke auf deutsch kann ich eine bessere Erklärung geben, wenn du magst per pm.

216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 06, 2016, 02:51:27 PM
i suck cock for living

Good Luck

You are the worst cock sucker LOL

lol I guess he is. that's why he needs to fud ... lol
217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 06, 2016, 12:30:30 PM
Is there are NAV coin Slack?

Yes please hit Strugg with a pm!

regards
shahim
218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 05, 2016, 06:40:54 PM
i said before we wont be seeing 2k-3k prices anymore. i guess i was off by few days.. look at that buy demand. we could be officially done with 4-5k satoshi range.


20million marketcap feels like can be reached before the annon is released!


ps: almost 600 btc buy wall support on polo.. new high over 7000's. good day so far



wow very nice, never seen anything close to that for nav. but be carefull as such huge numbers mostly means pump and dump..as some major players seem to be in and probably have been accumulating since 300 sat.

but very nice to see nav doing great again. i have been a big supporter for a long time. unfortunately i needed to cash out last year due to some private problems.... my 4 million nav would have been worth a nice amount of money with these prices hehe, but ok thats life.

good luck guys, hope you will finally reach the 10k level, seems doable in a few days now...and hope it stays stable

thanks mate! I hope you still have a bit left! otherwise buy back Smiley
219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 03, 2016, 08:13:05 AM
Devs NAV can i use your logo i my app ?


What kind of app? If no illegal whatever.  Wink
220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. ● ANDROID WALLET LIVE ● NAV 2.1 SOON on: September 02, 2016, 06:28:55 AM
And not to forget. We are nearly instant! fu****ing fast Smiley
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