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201  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Uber’s New CEO Is a Bitcoin Fan on: September 02, 2017, 01:26:54 AM
This is good news but i still think paying uber with BTC is still a waste of investment since you have to pay transaction fee each time you pay UBER.

But Uber comes out with their internal wallet and you need to deposit some bitcoins in their wallet and use them whenever you want it without any charges. That means you need to pay transaction fee only one time when you load your account after that no fee. This method needs you to deposit your Bitcoin to their site first and some people may not like this method.
202  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin soon 5000$ !!! on: September 02, 2017, 01:22:28 AM
Another $75 to reach $5000 mark and it will happen very soon. But I feel these prices should consolidate for some time before it goes to next higher levels. For the last couple of months, it has grown a lot so I expect some correction soon or later. $10K will surely reach but it takes a time so just buy and store your coins safely to see that price range.
203  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: September 02, 2017, 01:17:39 AM
We understand it might be a hassle for many of you to go through the T&C long page, but marlboroza is totally correct in this case.
If one accepts our terms, they are agreeing to play by the rules.
As we have already mentioned, we are aware of the problem connected to gambling addiction and we are very cautios, but this was not the case to consoder as reasonable.
It does not matter where or to whom he reports, we have proof and explanation, which MrMisley did not provide.

Can I ask you one question, did any members of this forum request you guys to provide a free transaction? If I'm not wrong, you guys are doing it to attract more people to your site but the withdrawal limitation rule is not highlighted before depositing money into the site. I feel you should pop up this important message to all depositors when they click button deposit. Because many players will not go through all the rules which site has set up.

I find this rule cheating people if you don't pop up this important message. Because of this, you may lose a lot of potential players.

If you can't do that then take out this rule and ask players to pay the fee. They will be happy to play on your site without any withdrawal limitations.
204  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Xapo on: September 02, 2017, 01:06:41 AM
I tried it and the experience was good. Looks like safe but hardware wallets like Ledger nano s are safest.

I'm using XAPO wallet for more than two years for converting my bitcoins to cash using their card but never really stored any coins in their Xapo cold storage and multisig wallet. Because I like to store my long term coins on my desktop instead any other service provider. I'm not sure whether they provide any option to recover your multisig coins in case their service close down.
205  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: "withdrawing" as a payment on: September 02, 2017, 01:00:54 AM
I wouldn't recommend it at all. First, Bittrex and mining pools have usually higher fees than Coinbase and Blockchain, paying 0.001 BTC fee is a waste. Second, these what you've listed is also not very secure and may get hacked or south anytime (see BTC-E, Bitfinex, Mt.Gox etc.). Third, you need to wait some minutes or hours until a transaction gets thru.

What you said is correct. Some people want to reduce the transaction fees for sending to their wallet and again sending exchanges for cashing them or for some other reason. That's why they want to send directly to these exchanges, but that is not a good idea as you mentioned. I'm ready to waste some fee instead losing all my funds so never store my coin in any exchanges.
206  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Any Good Bitcoin to Paypal/Other Online Payment System? on: September 02, 2017, 12:55:13 AM
www.changer.com/?ref=Lovdeep here you go and exchange.....

from paypal you will not get easily....

Posting referral links are not allowed in this forum. If you to post your referral links you should at least provide one direct link to the site and another referral link which you need to mention clearly it is referral link.

Direct link to the site - http://www.changer.com/  - I'm not sure whether this site is legit or not.

I never exchange Bitcoin to PayPal or any other currency in any other site except on this forum with few trusted members.
207  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How To make Money From Freelancing on: September 02, 2017, 12:41:41 AM
There are so many freelancer websites but i can share what i have used for myself.Upwork.com is widely used for freelancers to find tens of jobs quickly.
Since i use it myself,i get hired for different jobs daily. Upwork has a user friendly chat platform to discuss projects.

Hey I have checked the site you mentioned I am really eager to start freelance career profile content writing and tech support. Will I able to get the more than 100$ per day for the profile I am looking for? If you know or recently came across please share to me to check that. Else PM me if you are fine do.

You can write a really good content then you can also try blackhatworld forum market place because their lot of marketers are visiting that forum and you can get easy sales. But you need to pay a fee for listing your service in that forum. If your content quality is good and a price is decent then you can get back that money easily.
208  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I do not have the guts to buy bitcoins now. on: September 01, 2017, 04:57:11 AM
Lol, any time in the past you probably don't have guts either. 2 years later when you look back, you would scratch your head why the bitcoin price is so low now  Grin

Yes, it is impossible to target any particular price to buy any investments. If one wants to invest in Bitcoin then don't look at its current price and stop it by thinking it may come down instead start buying immediately with a smaller quantity on a regular basis then you will get a good average price over the time. If you wait for prices to correct then one may not get a chance to buy at all.
209  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do you even gamble? on: September 01, 2017, 04:34:56 AM
Because gambling promises a profit, and in that case, gambling promising us profits in a fun way, yes, we are Promised profit by playing the game. But it depends on your luck, if you're lucky you'll get both.


Where you read or saw gambling promising a profit for players? But it will always give a good profit to site owners for sure.

It will only give you fun if you play this game without expecting any profit from it because if you're expecting a profit and if you lose your money then you will not get any fun instead you will be worrying about your losses.
210  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The gambler destroyed on: September 01, 2017, 04:32:00 AM
We are leaving the idea that this strategy is based solely on luck. Do you say how many hands to play to see that it is really a profitable strategy? Every time I simulated the bets, I won. If it were luck, I should have lost during these bets.

If you're making a profit from your method then no need to prove anything to the public instead you can continue making a profit from your method and enjoy your money. But if you want to sell your method to someone then people will ask you to prove many things and I don't believe that you can win always from these random number games.
211  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: September 01, 2017, 04:19:57 AM
yep, just played my 4,354th time there in last 3 years.


still can't get higher then 400 sats
I don’t really know if that was paid or not. I never won anything from freebitco.in, though I never invested anything apart from time. But it’s quite good to know that they’re really paying and giving $200 bonus, from what others have said. Lastly, it feels good to see people coming up with something new.

This site is one of the best faucet site and the only site that give the great payout for everyone, I remember that many people already won from their hi-lo games and they get the payout without any problems. Most people tend to play on their lottery games, that is why most of them never want to take their profit from here. More over with provably fair system for their lottery, I believe most of them will keep continue for their lottery game

I'm not sure whether anyone won any big amount from the hi-low game from this site because the house is such high 5% and it makes almost impossible to win from the hi-low game. This game is just to spend your time and waste your money. But I accept that this site is paying to all members for a long time without any issues.
212  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: September 01, 2017, 04:15:32 AM
Hello!

I've got a few coins on the side and I'd like to make them work.
Which gambling site do you advise me to invest in the bankroll?
personally,i think investing btc in casino have a high risk,better mining or trading,just save your money

Mining got even higher risk because it may take many months to recover back your investments and it is not suitable for many developed countries to reason their electricity charges are higher than what they can earn from mining. Investing in casino bankrolls are high risk but if you do a proper diversification then you can make a good profit in the longer run.

That is correct. Mining nowadays is not so worth at least in my country because as you said electrical charges very high so it is not economical to try mining. But both trading and investing in casinos are good to explore. I don't suggest you go for day trading because you may lose your investments faster than expected so always just buy good coins and hold to sell at higher prices.
213  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 LOTTERY 🎁14 BILLIONTH BET🎁 on: September 01, 2017, 02:59:32 AM
a while ago I made 50$ out of a faucet, and I withdrew but after that I deposited again and withdrew again without any problems, my two accounts never interacted with each other because I created another one with the sole purpose of gambling since I forgot the password to the first one, an admin can prove this by checking the logs, I might have created a third account for just one day cuz I forgot the password to the first account, but I'm repeat, I didn't tip my accounts or faucet farm or any of that stuff, I just created the account gambled and withdrew, and when I lost I used the faucet a few times just to make me feel better and once I got 50$ out of it, I don't know if any of this is against the rules but I never faucet farmed/transfered money between accounts or posted phishing links of any type, please I need help getting out my 10 ltc, its 700$+ and its a shit ton for me please forgive me if I broke any rules I have for sure read all of them today and I ask for an admin or Mr Bayrom to review my case. Today before I got muted until 2018 Mr Bayrom said that my case was a long one, Huh I don't understand, I took some screenshots of it, can anyone tell me what did he meant to say?


https://ibb.co/fQyN45
https://ibb.co/bQ0DBk

If the admin is saying that he got some logs to prove then members can't help you out in this case. I suggest the best option for you is to follow up with Baryom because if you can convince him then you can able to get back your money. None of us can help you except feeling sorry for your losses.
214  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: September 01, 2017, 02:51:27 AM
I made a deposit at Fortune Jack and decided not to play there and decided to cashout. I did not make a single bet. MY withdrawal continue to be reversed. CS agent Robert insist that I must wager 5x in order to withdrawal. I explained to Robert that I have a gambling problem and do not wish to play any and proceeded to withdraw again. CS Robert again reversed my withdrawal and said I must wager 5x.

MrMisley
 
i have a gambling addiction problem



i need help



Robert
 
Do you want us to close your account with funds on it?


MrMisley
 
i requested a cashout



Robert
 
Yes and I have provided you rules for withdrawal.

 
Cashout you have requested will be cancelled.


MrMisley
9:13 pm
so you are forcing someone with a gambling problem to gamble anyways? Are you promoting that?


After no choice but to play I lost 75% of my deposit and proceeded to cashout in which i didn't wager 5 times. This time when I went to CS Roberts. He went ahead and processed it. Even though I didn't wager 5 times my deposit.

obert
 
Your withdrawal was confirmed.


MrMisley
 
no i lost money when i should have not been allowed to gamble

 
i told you i had a problem and you did not help me. I have the chat log to show you do nothing to help me. When i cashout you kept reversing it

In order to support your claim, you need to post proof means those discussions screen shots instead of writing because that will give solid evidence to what you're saying.

Whatever you said is true then that is quite bad and fortunejack should fix it before its reputation goes down. They shouldn't force someone to gamble but if they want they can deduct the transaction fee.
215  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: August 31, 2017, 01:46:37 AM
Hmm, seems it's true

https://fortunejack.com/help/terms


Quote
Wagering requirements apply before any deposit made on Member Account can be withdrawn. The deposit amount must be turned over 5 times before your withdrawal request will be approved. Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slots, casino games and games.

I believe the rule is here to combat suspicious activity
I've never had any issues withdrawing my money, and I never turned it over 5 times, not even 2 times  Cheesy

May be you always played with your signature campaign money to play and that's why those rules may not be applicable to you. It is just my thinking but did you anytime tried to deposit money and withdraw without wagering 5X times?

Since this has created confusion to many people so fortunejack support team should clarify this part. We no need to do a guessing game.
216  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 LOTTERY 🎁14 BILLIONTH BET🎁 on: August 30, 2017, 03:03:59 AM

Lastly, we have an instant deposit feature which doesn't help us when the blockchain is slow. We are working on some improvements about the withdrawals but remember, we are the side that suffers the most concerning the blockchain withdrawal issues. We are already paying an increased fee for thousands of withdrawals in 95% of the cases every single day which is very costly.Make a quick calculation and you will understand that blockchain issue costs us more than $100K a month.

Did anyone force you to pay the fee $100K?

No, you're making more that much profit so to keep players continue to play on your site doing this small benefit. If you wish you can remove that and we will pay our fee and no need of your charity work.

No one is forcing him to do that but he is trying to help people who want to withdraw their money faster. But sometimes these delays will happen due to a lot of pending transactions in the blockchain. In other thread, you mentioned that your withdrawal already confirmed so it is done for now.
217  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: August 30, 2017, 03:00:01 AM
Now it seems FJ users have to wager x5 to make withdraw but why? I especially liked playing slots on fj but this news did bad for me. When player deposits and you request x5 wager, this means depositer will loose money in most cases. This isn't good idea, fj seems great without that. Just wanted to write my opinion here despite the fact that it won't change anything but hope you will care on it.

Wait.....where did you read wager x5 to withdraw???

He probably deposited 0.002BTC  Cheesy
Withdrawal fees are high, and FJ pays the fee for you, so the minimum withdrawal is 0.01BTC.
Which some say is high, but considering the fee is free which is never under 1mbtc, that's a good deal man.
You don't wanna deposit 0.002, win 0.003 and withdraw 0.002 lol
No one wins, neither the casino, nor you, not even the network  xD

Oh haha, that makes sense. However, for other currencies, there should be lower minimum withdrawal. Doge fee isn't much, haha.

I've just checked the terms and condition page to make sure about it and seems he is right, there is a terms that players need to wager 5x of the deposit before withdrawal is approved. A bit surprised to read that but I think it wont be apllied to all players, maybe it is only for accounts with suspicious activity because few hours ago I made a deposit of 4800 doge and wager a bit (maybe less than my deposit) and won 24k doge then withdraw it without any issues.

How do you know that this rule is applicable only for those suspicious activities? Did they mention in those terms?

It looks like this rule is applicable for everyone and if that is true then Fortunejack is not good to play perticularly if someone playing only for fun for a limited time and want to withdraw their money before reaching 5X wagering requirement. Better admin needs to confirm on this part.
218  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: August 29, 2017, 01:58:09 AM
I have to share this crazy run i had:


Who said you can't win 400$ with only 4$?  Grin

You try to repeat it again then you will come to know why it is not possible? You may win one or two times because you may be lucky on those days but you can't win every time you gamble. Gambling gives you only excitement when you play for fun and if you're lucky then you will get money also but don't gamble only to get money.
219  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 LOTTERY 🎁14 BILLIONTH BET🎁 on: August 29, 2017, 01:48:35 AM
Those are just a guide lines what is happening in blockchain and while choosing fee you also should look at how many unconfirmed transactions in the blockchain. If you see a lot of unconfirmed transaction means you shouldn't follow what they suggested instead pay a slightly higher fee than what they suggested to get your transaction confirmation faster.

I do agree that there will be some delays but 24 to 48 hours is too much that shows the fee paid for those transactions was way below than the expected fee.
I'm sure that you didn't actually take a look at the 21.co site because its recommended fee is always the lowest one marked in green (the 0-1 estimated block fees).
Let's also note that for casinos to deal with multiple inputs, it jacks up the size of the transaction to ridiculously high levels if a user is withdrawing.
Here's an example of a withdrawal that I requested from Stake: 2f1459fcc40cb6af51a5382a1f4847a1bbf7d8390dd4ffd3ef82b0ab1379ec2d
This transaction has a size of 1847 bytes which is ridiculously high. Even with the 2.781 mBTC fee that they used it's still 150 sat/byte which is a low fee. If you wanted to get the transaction as quickly as possible (according to bitcoinfees) it would require a fee of 0.00777587 which I don't think anyone is comfortable with unless the withdrawal is >8 BTC.
Agreed, transaction confirmation is very low even with high priority fee (high priority = high fee = quick confirmation time). Bitsler pays normal fee, for me that's good but there are many people who don't likes it. I think withdraw fee system needs to be changed, transactions are really huge bytes as actmyname mentioned. I think bitsler has to give users ability to choose satoshi/byte fee. After that there won't be dissatisfied players.

That is correct. Now some people are blaming bitsler because they don't get an option to choose what fee they want it. If bitsler provide that option then no one can blame. Once people choose the fee then they will be fully responsible for fast and slow transactions and if transactions get stuck then they should blame themselves.
220  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: bitsler.com cheated me, they declin my withdraw on: August 28, 2017, 08:14:14 AM

Once the OP was able to wager that they blocked him from withdrawing with the excuse that he shouldn't be withdrawing faucet funds.

You need to read this post posted by Baryom (Bitsler admin) in first page of this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2099812.msg20988316#msg20988316

OP got more than two accounts and he tried to cheat the system or abusing the faucet money and that's why his withdrawals are blocked.
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