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2001  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: bagaimana nasib nft untuk jangka panjang sebagai tempat berinvestasi? on: December 29, 2022, 11:23:31 AM
Kalo yang bener-bener memahami fungsi dan potensi yang ada pada sebuah NFT, maka keberadaan NFT bisa dijadikan wadah (inovasi) buat membungkus sebuah karya seni kedalam bentuk yang lebih modern dan bisa melindungi hak (kepemilikian) dari karya seni tersebut. Sementara market pada NFT (object dan para pelaku pasarnya) tidaklah semuanya berkaitan dengan karya seni, sehingga buat orang-orang yang hanya mementingkan potensi income dan profit instan, yang mereka bidik adalah jenis NFT yang sedang hype, memiliki likuiditas tinggi dan biasanya bukanlah NFT dengan nilai seni tinggi.
Benar mas, kalau kita ingat saat NFT Ghozali booming, banyak orang Indonesia mendadak membeli NFT Ghozali, hasilnya sekarang ga tau seperti apa nasibnya. Kemudian, menjadikan identitas orang lain sebagai NFT adalah bentuk dari banyaknya yang kurang paham dengan NFT. tentunya ini bukan hanya terjadi di Indonesia, secara global pun sama, mereka mengedepankan hype daripada mencari tahu utlitas jangka panjang. Kemudian, ketika GMT pump ke $3, secara global berbondong2 membeli NFT untuk mining GMT, tetapi pada akhirnya banyak dari mereka yang tidak bisa balik modal karena harga NFTnya yang mahal. Hype seperti menjadi tolok ukur investor baru dalam mengambil keputusan. Karena mereka berharap 1 NFT yang mereka miliki bisa bernilai ratusan ribu dollar.
2002  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 29, 2022, 11:07:58 AM
And I think I know what you mean Lol. Milan isn't over mate, you should know that, and I don't think Napoli will be that easy leading the table without a bit of competition. I agree that the domination of Serie A by Juventus and Inter before was something very boring, but Milan and Napoli really have to fight to squeeze between the strengths of these two dominant teams.

Milan made history last season, but this season has been very difficult, and I agree Napoli have a chance to win this season. Inter cannot be underestimated, their passion to win is definitely better than Napoli's motivation to maintain the record. The spirit of the World Cup will certainly make top teams like Inter play better, but Napoli also have a chance to win. Unbeaten record is something, and Napoli will be thinking about how to maintain it.

I don't say Milan is over, but if I have to choose the match between Napoli and Inter, so I choose Napoli for sure. Not because I underestimate them, just want to see Napoli beat them, so Milan can maintain the gap with them. Even Milan still have a chance but, sometimes Milan show us bad performance. I'm afraid if Milan getting more worst after this break. If it happens, the chance to replaced by Juventus and Inter for top 3 position will be open. That why I wish Napoli can win, and if Milan can't be champions again this season, better to see Napoli.  Grin

Yes, I'm bored to see Juventus become Serie-A champions, need something new, not just Juventus, Inter and AC Milan. since after more than 8 seasons, we are only seeing them become Serie-A Champions.  But, if Milan have a chance to defend their title, so I will be happy to made a party for their win once again Roll Eyes Grin
2003  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: December 28, 2022, 06:01:12 PM
The match between Barcelona and Espanol is going to be an easy one for them. This is because they seem to be in control of the game under Xavi's leadership, and I believe they could win easily. In spite of the fact that they are first in the league table at the moment, we need to take into account the fact that Real Madrid have played one less game than them. If Real Madrid win their next game, then they will be on top of the table. They will be one point ahead of Barcelona at the end of the current round. There is no doubt that we will be able to witness some fierce competition between these two league giants for the league title.

The matches has been predicted if Barcelona should be win this matches. We are seeing Espanol under pressure now. They are one of the best in La-Liga history, but can't maintain their performance. And now, they are going out from top 10 of standing, meeting with Barcelona will making them hard to get a point, even just 1 point. Five matches with 3 draw and 2 matches win. they are need to change their strategy so they can get better matches results.
2004  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: bagaimana nasib nft untuk jangka panjang sebagai tempat berinvestasi? on: December 28, 2022, 05:06:56 PM
Bukan kecepatan meluncurnya, namun Hype yang muncul saat itu terlalu tinggi sehingga saat ekspetasi yang diharapkan hasilnya tidak bisa optimal, akhirnya banyak juga yang merasa bosan dan beberapa diantaranya juga mulai menyadari betapa tingginya resiko yang mungkin bakal mereka hadapi karena pada dasarnya investasi pada NFT adalah sebuah spekulasi.
Selama ini yang menjadi buruan adalah NFT Meme dan game yang mana dalam pandangan saya, meme dan game ini tidak memiliki seni yang benar-benar bisa dijual untuk di jangka waktu yang lama. Berbeda dengan digital image yang memiliki unsur keunikan dan seni yang bagus yang sekiranya akan mampu disimpan untuk waktu yang lama dan memiliki nilai lebih baik di masa depan. NFT P2E seperti Axie, terlalu mudah untuk dihasilkan sehingga suplai tumbuh dari waktu ke waktu sedangkan pemain menurun karena merasa tidak sesuai ekspektasi hasil membuat sepi peminat yang pada akhirnya memaksa holder untuk menjual lebih murah. Meskipun demikian, NFT bisa dimanfaatkan untuk bisnis fotografi di masa depan. seperti penjualan foto untuk kebutuhan editorial, komersial dan sebagainya sekarang sudah mulai ditemukan di opensea, ini adalah hal yang bagus yang saya rasa dapat berkembang nantinya.
2005  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Belajar] Strategi Pemula Biar Tetap Eksis di Sini on: December 28, 2022, 11:19:49 AM
Kadang postingan yang dianggap kurang berkualitas dari satu manajer belum tentu hal yang sama terjadi dengan manajer lainnya, namun tetap menjadi intropeksi dalam membuat postingan lebih bagus dan bisa bertahan selama mungkin di signature service.
Mengenai postingan, memang penilaian adalah bergantung pada keputusan dari manager, jika manager tidak terlalu ketat dalam menilai suatu postingan. Akan tetapi, terkadang bukan hanya manager yang menilai, melainkan komunitas. Saya ingat ada banyak sekali peserta kampanye saya yang kehilangan lebih dari 40 post dalam 5 pekan, artinya ada komunitas yang melaporkan member tersebut, walaupun dari manager tidak begitu ketat. beruntungnya, saya menerapkan sistem post count, jadi mereka yang kehilangan banyak post tidak akan mendapatkan bayaran dari bounty yang saya handle. Ini bisa jadi pelajaran bagi semua member baru jika suatu saat ikut kampanye, karena aturan dan penilaian bisa dri manager & member forum yang aktif menyaring post.
2006  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 28, 2022, 10:59:42 AM
Argentinian young talent, Enzo Fernandez in Chelsea's sights, according to rumors, currently Chelsea are ready to offer Fernandez for € 127m (source) to Benfica. A very fantastic price for this player. Because previously not many paid attention to him, the World Cup skyrocketed his name by becoming the best young player at the World Cup 2022. Even though he is being linked with Chelsea, Fernandez admits that he doesn't know anything (source).
2007  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 28, 2022, 09:46:15 AM
Against Inter in January will be a big test for all the Napoli squad, surely they are aiming for victory because this is important to keep the point difference from other teams large to keep their position safe at the top of the standings, but Inter is not an easy opponent, Inter current position in rank 5 will motivate them to put up a tough fight and gain points to improve their position, the strategy used by the Napoli coach will determine whether they win or only a draw can be obtained and the worst is defeat

This is not the time to be afraid to face Inter. Napoli players need to strengthen their mentality in this match. Because Inter Milan is not a team that can be underestimated. Apart from that, Inter are still not in their top form, so there is still a chance to win for Napoli. Hopefully Napoli will not experience a significant impact from the world cup break and still manage to maintain their position at the top of the standings in this match. Not because i hate Inter Milan, just if AC Milan can't be the champions, just wishing the new champions will be born, that is Napoli and making the history repeated, 1986 Argentine become World Cup champion, and 1987 Napoli win Serie-A.
2008  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling? on: December 28, 2022, 09:39:31 AM
There's no tutorial or tricks to win in gambling I can agree that any post or discussion about How to win in gambling should end in a question mark because all tricks are exposed not to work.


Yes, there is no special trick, I just explained about the term "How to". We all agree that in gambling analysis on sports betting requires a strategy so that you can find the strongest point to take before betting, even though you have to lose in the end, this is part of the strategy. but not losing here is also limited because it still requires the end result in the match. In Slots, there is a simple strategy, lower the bet when you get freespins for example, but this is also not to win, just to reduce the potential of lose large amounts.

But to be honest, most agree that the content and title of this thread are a bit contradictory, from how to win to how to manage your money. Some users agree that winning means saving money from many losses, but from the other perspective of most members, winning = getting more money from gambling, win = not lose anything even just $1  Grin.
2009  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling? on: December 27, 2022, 03:35:23 PM
The points you mentioned are not about how to win at gambling. But to keep gamblers' finances from getting out of control which makes their condition more difficult. If you say "how to win", then you should give your tutorials/tricks to win, while the chances of winning slots with that strategy are difficult, I believe that the winning results from slots will be obtained if you are lucky.
2010  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: December 27, 2022, 03:29:30 PM

Nottingham forest was only doing a good job once it was able to won against liverpool. I see no chance for nottingham forest to get full points against united. Moreover, Rashford is slowly going even better than before. MU may be coming back again to destroy nottingham like burnley but who knows if nottingham could give us a surprise against MU by beating it and yeah, that's how EPL must work. The small team should able to prevent the big team to get points easily.  Cheesy

Liverpool are in a bad phase this season, Nottingham's victory was the result of the inconsistency that happened to them at that time. If Liverpool's performance is the same as last season or when they won the title, it's unlikely Nottingham will win. MU is also in a similar condition, with Liverpool, so there is still a possibility that this match will end in a draw or MU defeat. Because after all, the carelessness of the MU players against a weak team will be a blunder that leads them to defeat.
2011  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 27, 2022, 03:21:15 PM
Are you coming from the future?Italian team have been managing to enter in final of UCL so many times since 2000 until now. I think that you shall not even underestimate italian team just becuase it has less resource compared with another team from other league. italian team has the same chance like any other team. Saying italian team will not win anything until 20 - 30 years later was a joke. I think that you shall take a look at the data before try to say something about that. Ac milan has won UCL in 2003 and 2007. Intermilan in 2010. Juventus was almost making it a few years ago.

No Offense, but I agree that Serie-A teams may find it difficult to get the title of UCL with the current players composition. However, I don't agree if it's 20-30 years. Because there will be many quality players who are promoted or brought in to Serie-A. If within 20 years since Inter won, the possibility of not seeing a champion from Serie A still makes sense. Because in the next 5 years, if Serie-A players quality are still under players from the Spanish league quality, of course it won't be possible. Maybe if Ancelotti coached the right club like Milan 10+ years ago, the UCL title could be won again by a Serie-A team, because I think Ancelotti has UCL DNA Cheesy
2012  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 26, 2022, 03:47:44 PM
The last 3 matches of Salernitana before the world cup break didn't go well, but seeing Milan's condition in attack, this is a bit of a consideration.
In plain view, this is an easy match, it should be just that with some of Milan's current conditions that are not very good, of course this is a bit of a real problem for them. As I said in a number of previous posts, even if Milan wins, it will only be a narrow win.

Bottom teams can be a problem for AC Milan. I often see blunders made by Milan when dealing with lower teams. I don't know what caused this. If Milan repeated the mistake, while Napoli could win the mtch, then the gap in points would widen and this would not be good for Milan. After that, maybe Milan will compete for the second positions with Juventus not for title again, because it will be more hard for Milan.
2013  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Free crypto possible ? Or impossible? on: December 26, 2022, 01:43:05 PM
Not impossible, but very hard to find though lol, that's almost close to impossible. Just face the reality, there is no easy nor free money in this world, you have to work your A** off to make money. Airdrops and faucets are some ways you can earn crypto with a little effort, that's almost for free, however it's not gonna pay you like how you want it to be.


Faucets can be used as an option, Freebitco.in has remained consistent with faucets to date. However, to be able to withdraw the BTC you get takes a very long time, except for being able to get the jackpot when claiming the faucet. Airdrop, now I hear that there is an AWT airdrop, but please note, someone is claiming AWT in an abnormal way, including with multiple accounts. Maybe this AWT will have no value if those following this airdrop don't save for the long term.

Free crypto or money on Twitter for RT or something like this, this is can be a fool. To join any giveaway like this, we need to make sure creator or poster from official account, so we can get the real money if we are lucky enough.
2014  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: December 26, 2022, 12:10:14 PM
Am I seeing a Mobile legend character series of slots from Pragmatic Play?
From the design, yes it very similar with Gatot Kaca on Mobile legends, but there is some different accessories between PP & ML characters. Here is original design from MLBB.


Source: https://www.wattpad.com/672605580-mobile-legends-characters-skins-gatotkaca

the hands on the PP don't have accessories like iron fists, in terms of design we can say "similar" when it comes to copyright, I don't really understand, but if there are differences some of "local" designer can say "get inspired" which can't be called a copycat. LOL
2015  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: December 26, 2022, 11:59:49 AM
Sepertinya mendekati angka yang mas prediksikan, jika dihitung dari tanggal postingan ini dikirim dan hari ini bitcoin berada di sekitaran harga 16K, akurasi prediksi memang terlihat akurat dan saya fikir kasus yang menimpa FTX juga mempengaruhi terjadinya Fud dan membuat kekacauan di pasar, sehingga bitcoin masih begitu stagnan di harga yang sedang kita diskusikan.

Belum ada tanda pemulihan hingga akhir tahun untuk bitcoin dan saya fikir dapat mempertahankan harga seperti saat ini adalah reaksi yang cukup, hingga pemulihan tiba di tahun depan secara bertahap.
Kalau dari RSI kita bisa lihat BTC berada di posisi sideway, dan saya lihat di TF 1 pekan, BTC masih cukup stabil berada di atas zona overbought dan stabil, hanya saja masih belum jauh-jauh dari poin range 30-40 RSI,umumnya, kalau sudah berada di atas poin rsi 50, itu dianggap sedang dalam fase bullish yang terkonfirmasi, namun saya belum paham betul mengenai ini. Setidaknya, selama btc masih kuat berada di area 15K-16K, saya rasa reversal akan segera dimulai dengan mengikuti histori korelasi keputusan The FED dan harga BTC di atas. Dan kalau sejarah kembali terulang memang 2023 ini akan menjadi awal reversal, tapi ingat, isu resesi 2023 mungkin mengubah segalanya.
2016  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Socios.com Fan Token Klub Indonesia - Prediksi & Spekulasi on: December 23, 2022, 04:41:42 PM
Kalau berkaca pada klub-klub luar yang sudah bombastis, menurut ane fan token lokal ini akan mengalami kendala seperti penjualan, apa lagi tidak ada nama token di kaos depan mereka karena saat ini diharuskan sponsor utama. Kalau ane sih, mending ke saham klub, kalau mereka mau berimprovisasi dengan menggabungkan saham dan token bersamaan, ane mau sih beli, soalnya sekaligus belin token dan profit atau keuntungan saham klub alias kepemilikan klub kayak rans united.

Kalau membeli token = saham, artinya harus ada korelasi antara harga token dan saham tersebut mas. Ibaratnya stable tapi di peg dengan saham klub. jika 1 token = 1 saham, artinya harga keduanya harus sama. Karena kalau berbeda, tentu akan dipertanyakan posisi tokennya. Apalagi token lebih mudah pump & dump, sedangkan saham lebih cenderung mengalami fluktuasi lebih rendah daripada kripto. Kalau sudah demikian, tentunya yang beli saham akan merasa dirugikan. Berbondong-bondong ke kripto, ujung-ujungnya kriptonya kena dump, sahamnya naik, jadi ribet kalau misalkan tidak memiliki korelasi harga yang sama antara token dan sahamnya.

Mengenai penjualan, itu yang saya pikirkan, karena fans Indonesia itu tidak loyal untuk mendukung dari segi merchandise atau pendukung financial selain nonton ke stadion. Ibaratnya, beli tiket 30K per pertandingan lebih penting daripada beli token 30K yang dapat 2 biji, tapi tidak bisa nonton di stadion. Saya bisa bicara demikian, karena saya dan teman-teman saya 90% memilih beli produk KW yang ada dipasaran. Enggan ngeluarin duit untuk hal lain yang berhubungan langsung dengan klub, misal jersey original atau kaos (t-shirt komunitas/fans) resmi yang dikeluarkan oleh klub.
2017  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Apakah Bappebti Benar Benar Melindungi Investor Indonesia? on: December 23, 2022, 04:30:53 PM
Misalnya Tokocrypto mengalami kebangkrutan atau pihak mereka mencoba menipu dan membawa kabur aset pengguna, Bappebti juga tidak mampu melakukan apapun untuk menutupi kerugian yang di alami oleh pengguna bursa tersebut. Ranah mereka hanya pada pemberian kepastian terhadap perjalanan bursa dengan adanya regulasi.

Langkah pencegahan sudah dipirkan oleh Bappebti mengenai hal ini, di mana Exchange wajib melaporkan modal setidaknya Rp800 miliar.

Exchanger atau Pedagang Fisik Aset Kripto wajib menyetor modal Rp 1 triliun dan saldo modal akhir Rp 800 miliar. Ketentuan ini harus dipenuhi dalam setahun.
Nah dari sini, sudah bisa dilihat, modal sebanyak ini bertujuan untuk menjaga dan memastikan bahwa exchange dapat beroperasi untuk waktu yang panjang. Kemudian, syarat yang penting pula adalah jajaran direksi juga harus diisi oleh WNI, hal ini juga sebagai tindakan pencegahan, ketika ada suatu terjadi misal seperti kasus FTX, pemerintah Indonesia masih bisa melacak, memantau dan mencari pihak-pihak berwenang yang ada di jajaran tertinggi perusahaan. Tapi kalau urusan penggantian jika bangkrut, sudah pasti Bappebti tidak akan sampai kesitu. Namun, yang harus mengembalikan tentunya adalah pihak exchange. Bagaimana pun, aset yang ditrading adalah aset pengguna, jadi wajib bagi exchange untuk menjaga aset pengguna tersebut dengan baik.
2018  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 23, 2022, 04:15:57 PM


I have not seen any news that Zidane will coach Juventus. There is no doubt that Zidane is an experienced coach. He is an excellent coach. But he is interested in being the coach of a team like Juventus? Earlier I heard rumors that Zidane was offered by PSG to become coach, but Zidane withdrew PSG's offer. I don't think Zidane would be interested in taking charge of a team as unstable as Juventus right now.

Asriloni is right, the article that i found is that, there not mentioned will joined Juventus, only making juventus as options. However, some of local media here already mentioned if Zidane close to Juventus* (article in Indonesian). Thats why, i asked community here, maybe I missed something about this news, since the rumors not become a trend so far. We never know, he need a job, if in the past he was refused offer from PSG, maybe he can accept Juventus offer at this time, since with Juventus, he can manage team from bad positions to be a champion again.
2019  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 23, 2022, 04:07:47 PM
It's a pity that Cristiano Ronaldo's ultimate fate, he had to be willing to go to a Middle Eastern club when he was old. But if the news is true, it's actually quite good, considering that he has struggled to play at a European level club and his desire to play in the Champions League seems to have disappeared. I hope CR7 can continue to motivate the young players at the Al-Nassr club so that his enthusiasm will spread to the various young people there.

His performance maybe down, but he still have strong physical. He was difficult to get new clubs in europe because his salary. If he can decrease his salary i believe it will be easy for him to find new european clubs. But, money still everything for human, he have a chance to get multi million euros, with Al-Nassr. The rare chance for star players have this opportunity. This can be new record for football history, while football players break £1bn deal. He can build stadium and have own clubs in the future with this money  Grin
2020  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 23, 2022, 08:40:27 AM
Juventus have hot rumor today, from local media in my country, some of them reported if Zidane will become Juventus coach. As we know, Allegri success bring Juventus to the top 3 after bad performance at the beginning. And now, if this rumor is true, its mean Allegri is not safe, he need to bring Juventus to get another scudetto for Juve, if he failed, maybe next season we will see he will getting sacked.

I don't find any news about possibility of Zidane to Juventus, anyone have more article about this? The only article I found is Footbal-Italia.net, but there just mentioned if Juventus one of Zidane options.
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