So... Let me get this straight... A solution for you is to keep a ledger of all the addresses that the money goes by... till the world becomes a police state and you can get your money back. Hmmm??
someone will try, and it will be an interesting test on the effectiveness of mixers vs. blockchain analysis. Governments will actually try... because if you can have unlimited transaction codes.... the transaction codes are used by people. And the problem is you don't have infinite people. And if they attach a name to each transaction in some weird secret data base... they will know who gave who what.. So basically we can just say we are in some information war that hasn't started on full scale in bitcoin land just yet. *Edit: A solution would be to create for now like 100 wallets for each BTCitcoin available. In this way they will not have any idea who owns what when they start the information war. *Edit2: Example... A merchant has a security camera and the government knows of the bitcoin accepting store because they have a big sing outside "We accept bitcoin!" ... And they will say... we want you to show us your transaction number... and then they can track and have surveillance on that merchant of all the transactions that he accepts.. then the government authorities will come and take footage from the surveillance cctv ... And they will start identifying users that used those transactions on the respective time stamp. And that's how they start creating them databases. *Edit3: And then the next step will be imposing taxes on those people.
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...ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is a vacuous platitude. Vacuous platitudes are from the planet Kashyyyk. But this vacuous platitude lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14Them wookies... keep interfering with politics in bitcoin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkN55Y_xNTQ
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Oh boy... I had such a laugh... ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .... He seems like one of the people from here, from this thread/topic... *Edit: People are so envious of other people and always trying to be scared of other people... a world where panic & fear are kings and queens!
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That's why I wish I could buy right now. 195k bitcoins are now gone from the exchange. They will likely not be spent or cashed out for years due to so many eyes on those coins. I can see the address where my bitcoins are sitting.
So...all of those bitcoin traders from BitFinex will need to get more bitcoins with smaller supply.
As far as BitGo...from what I could tell on reddit, there were two setups. People who verified their identities and had a BitGo setup. And the rest who did not go through verification and had some other setup. I did not do any of that verification.
I thought that the number missing was 120k btc? Ahh yes. No idea where I got 195k. So... Let me get this straight... A solution for you is to keep a ledger of all the addresses that the money goes by... till the world becomes a police state and you can get your money back. Hmmm?? I mean... there could be created a fast black list by the international community and the coins that where stolen to be flagged and the person that would have accepted them for a transaction, they would decline payment from that compromised wallet... hmmm???
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Keep dreaming... We are going straight to 700$ ... then slowly to £1000-1300£ ... $1000-1300$.
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Price goes up and no one I know says a word.
~cough. COUGH!~ It's okay though, price seems to be recovering. Went up $6 as I was typing this. On stamp (secondary target).
Neah... its just 10-15 bucks... don't bother with that nonsense! ... When we are gonna see at least 50$ till 250$ jumps.. then it will be a party! ... We just had a party last night of 150$+ ... People increased their coin capital now they wait and maybe spend a bit of their profits that they just made last night/afternoon... ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ... I'm going to bed... its late! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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I came here to read all those "haha, you all are stupid and shouldn't use exchanges anyway!" posts and wasn't disappointed. Anyway, good luck with raising a multi billion dollar market cap with localbitcoins and alleyway dealers, selling bitcoins from the trunk of their car ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Hahaha .... "trunk of their car" part was excelent!!! ... ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) But you should know that more and more people are starting to be educated on things and issues as programming software and closed system technologies. Thinking of cavemen using BTCitcoin is a weird picture to imagine and to aspire too!![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fht4uhlh.png&t=663&c=Tr3iWHOEAnc0xA)
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Something tells me that behind this hack could be bankers , it just doesn't make sense to steal a measly $65 mil when you can steal a lot more from banks
Adjustment to inflation maybe taken in consideration by the thieves? ... Or maybe they are thieves that will use it for pumping since they are tired of waiting for the big bubble?
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I had 31 BTC on Bitfinex. It was likely one of the hacked addresses. I hope they compensate all of the stolen coins. Though to do that they probably lose more money than they have which requires that they go fractional reserve which also means they eventually become Mt Gox 2.0. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) They probably need to act fast on buying back the coins then... Since the price seems to be heading towards a new pump and a new bubble. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) My condolences! ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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Is there a bitfinex replacement out there that offers leveraged trading to North American customers?
Dunno... But I recommend exchanges that require you a ton of personal information and that don't keep the coins or fiat on the exchange... and need like 10 security verification protocols. At least those are safe if you are not afraid of the government, and if those countries have permissive laws towards bitcoin... Try to find a country that actually plans to encourage BTCitcoin. (*Edit: This if you want to be a trader... if you want to just buy for your personal stash&hold, you can just buy from one of the mainstream exchanges I guess.)
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Holy crap what a drop! What the hell happened to Bitfinex? Really tired of all these exchanges imploding every now and then. Lost my chance to exit at 600$. Ok, I mean... we start again. As usual Back to CPU/GPU for a better decentralization ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Pfff ... Condolence, if you had coins there. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) No man don't worry. I'd have to rephrase. I did not have any coins there. I left finex a month ago (lucky one apparently) I did not expect such a huge drop but I simply wanted to sell some at 600$ which is probably not going to happen now. Your good fortune pleases me! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ... Maybe we will drink some day to it when we are billionairs and trillionairs.. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Hahahaha... this is just atrocious!!! ... Pop that bubble asap!!! ... Don't let it breath! ... Kill it quick with fire!!! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Holy crap what a drop! What the hell happened to Bitfinex? Really tired of all these exchanges imploding every now and then. Lost my chance to exit at 600$. Ok, I mean... we start again. As usual Back to CPU/GPU for a better decentralization ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Pfff ... Condolence, if you had coins there. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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All the Chinese mining kings come to USA, Bitfinex gets hacked.
Documentary? Or drama?
Karma... and Moon!!!
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JJG, tell me you weren't hodling on an exchange?! ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) I'd suspect that BitFinex is insolvent, though I definitely don't know for sure. Still, I recommend withdrawing everything as soon as possible. Wow... here starts the patronizing bullshit.. or just a continuation... BMB gonna say.. "oh, I am only saying this because I care." ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) What bullshit patronizing. JJ Abracadabrus... We do know that some of us wish your soul to burn in the fires of Hell for writing those atrocious walls of text... But till then... you are still one of us, from the club... So if you lost stuff and... If you need a shoulder to cry on or moral support on the long term... you do know we are here for you... Aight? *Edit: ... Solution!: If you are a citizen of that country that the exchange was/is in... and if its a wealthy country... You can make a petition for the government to bail-out the exchange... With also the future involvement of the law enforcement institutions to track down all the transactions and confiscate or ban all users that are tied to those transactions, till they find the real perpetrators. And recover the full amount in exchange for the bailout sum.
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs32.postimg.org%2Fsh38tfcyt%2Fwombat1.jpg&t=663&c=u7R2UmZVoBH5JQ) One of us got ripped off... Dude... that reptilian rat creature has like 5 million years of evolution behind us... what are you implying?? ... Nudist badger?? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ... Also the coins are recoverable!!! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ... They just need to follow the transactions... even if there are split in millions of wallets... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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How much did u lose? ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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I know... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ... I dumped too... But I count what I own in coins not fiat... (*Edit: Meaning I sit 90% of the time in coins.. and 10% in fiat .(*Edit2: And I never go to sleep holding fiat!))
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LoL ... this guy could write prophecies... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxkKkN0hlukHe actually said it will go under 660$ .. till somewhere 615$ ... then go up in stairs... is the 2nd time I listen to the madness of the guy... (first time was in September/October last year when I listened what he had to say) He proves to be a good source... maybe even more luck in the future! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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seriously i dont even blame bitfinex, i blame everyone who is such a moron to keep his coins on exchanges. even after we had so many hacks meanwhile...
agreed, and think about why those people are storing coins on an exchange ... to earn interest from others who are shorting the bitcoin price zero shits given for anyone that loses their coins on bitfinex ... fuck off and never come back to bitcoin The thing is that people are a bit dumb... Especially if they don't have a legally binding contract with the exchange so they can sue.
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