Yep its been around for a while, however someone has to have 1337 posts to see it, which isn't a very common occurance, and normally goes unnoticed

Does not care. If they are distributing malware on Twitter, report it to the proper authority on twitter, the forums staff cannot enforce anything done off this site. If they aren't paying out the coins, you can open up a scam accusation thread in this section if you wish: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

A few people on that list I know are alts of other people, and to me the posts just look like they are frustrated with who I will explain a bit further down in my post. There are two sides in the activemining thread. The naysayers and the supporters. The naysayers have two sects, the reasonable ones that aire their concerns, and the ones that just want to be annoying. The supporters have two sects as well. The ones that reply to the reasonable naysayer's concerns, and the annoying ones that just call everyone that has a question or concern crumbs. When the annoying naysayers and the annoying supporters converse, it ends up in pages of spam which results in all parties involved getting punished. (Crumbs, StuartUK, etc)

Now there are also the other combinations that are bad, which involves any reasonable side and an annoying opposition which results in slightly fewer pages of spam, but its still bad. In those cases, the offenders alone are punish, and the reasonable and now frustrated party is left alone. As of late, it is getting worse to the point where it is either leave the thread to its own devices, or get rid of everyone involved. To get rid of everyone involved would be unfair, as many people in that thread only post poorly there and no where else, triggered by the annoying ones of either side. To get rid of no one means nothing changes, and to only target the "trolls" means to get rid of the "trolls" and those calling them "trolls" is essentially the first senario of getting rid of everyone.

They used Paypal, so completely reversable should something not work out.

I'm interested to see how this all turns out, let us know when it arrives Andrew.

This. The most collectable things, are the things that were not meant to be collectable. The early Casascius coins weren't silver or anything else of value, and they weren't advertised as collectable. They were essentially just cheap car wash tokens that were made to represent the idea of Bitcoins as a tangible asset. If you think about numismatics, the things that are the most collectable, are things that aren't supposed to be, and the things that are least collectable, are the things that were made to be.

Ex. Old Baseball cards: Collectable because kids had them and didn't take care of them. No one thought they would be worth big money, so now they are rare the same with other old toys. They were made in huge numbers, people used them, their numbers depreciated, and now people want them.

Ex. Beanie Babies: Designed to be collectable, people hoarded them for collectors value, worthless.

There are a multitude of different parties that have been banned in the ActM thread, Crumbs is not the only one. It could be any of them, or it could be a totally unrelated person. Crumbs to my knowledge does not speak the languages that some of those people you listed did, and why would he make 15 new accounts? A few of those people on your list I have known for a while, so I'm also reasonably sure they are not crumbs as well. There are a few people on your list that I have no idea about, however this isn't a wild goose chase. If it is crumbs, he will make a mistake and will be banned then. I'm not going to spend hours per day running around in a circle investigating every person that posts in that thread. If I see similar trends between an account and crumbs, I investigate further.

I have seen the posts that those people are making, and that people are reporting. More than a handful are well thought out and reasonable, and then people start calling them "crumbs" to discredit their ideas. I'm not going to play into the debate about Activemining because I have no stake in it, nor any opinion on the matter. I'm not going to humor the opposition nor the pro Activemining people by taking out those that are against it. I honestly don't care if people want to insult Activemining, call it a scam, or whatever. As long as they can post in a way that can be responded to (IE used as conversation) I don't care. People can defend their own stances. I'm not here to ban the "trolls" in the activemining thread, because those that are being called that and the ones calling them that in the first place are pretty much a wash on that account. If special exceptions weren't made for that thread, nearly every single person there would be sacked by now, because its abhorrent how people act there. But, it is a self moderated thread, so Ken is free to do what he wishes, and people have serious financial stakes in the matter, so it is going to inspire more emotional posting than other topics.

That is already in progress, however after the new forum is done, it will most likely be months before it goes public. Then we have to find all of the flaws in the new version, that we may have already found in the older version.

No, I can safely say 80% of those accounts are not crumbs, and the other 20% could be safely hidden behind a VPN/Proxy. I'm not actually as stupid as I look, its not often that people change what languages they speak fluently, nor their speech patterns in english.

I'm interested in the remaining two. Just asked for some additional details 

See the problem is, in the active mining thread, people use the term "crumbs" as an insult in an attempt to discredit what someone is saying. I can safely say that 80% of those names you listed are not him.

I'll bump this up today and once more on sunday or maybe monday as I have to go to the post office anyway. If no one is interested, I'll just hold onto it a bit longer.

Heh, don't worry about it, I'm pretty lenient about what goes on there anyway. If people want to get into fights and harass each other, I don't care as long as they aren't disrupting others, I just ask that they do it in their own thread. There is no specific Alt Currencies Off Topic section, so it is kind of blended all together. If people want to have dedicated arguement threads, thats perfectly alright with me, it keeps them from arguing in threads that people are actually reading for information.

I reported it for Child Abuse, and I urge you all to do so as well!

Just kidding (kind of) but if you don't vote for it, you shall be beaten severely.

Thanks for the offers, but like I said, I don't think I'd consider anything under 2 BTC for it.

I'm going to set my buy it now price at 2.25 BTC including shipping. I'd also take 2.25 BTC worth of Gold, Silver, or cash in the mail for it, if you don't want to spend your hard earned BTC.

Heh, as before thank you for the offers, however I don't think I'd sell it for anything under 2 BTC. If you guys want to keep putting in higher and higher offers, you are welcomed to until you reach a point I like, however I don't know of any senario in which case I'd take less than 2 BTC.

I have no idea where I put my camera USB cable which is slowing things down a bit, however I'll post the additional pictures when I stumble across it. Those ones aren't great either, but they show different angles and such.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, accidentally removed the entire thread, rather than the requested post.

And then those accounts that are doing zero good get banned, which proves my point.

Well, quite honestly, the mods aren't trying to gain the approval of the users, I'd say the fact that out of 200,000 accounts, there are only a handful of, "OMG MY ACCOUNT WAS BANNED WRONGFULLY" threads is actually rather impressive. As far as reasons for bans, more often than not, a user knows what they are getting banned for. We might not take the time to explain it to a 8 hour old account that has spammed up 50 posts, or to someone who is posting malware, but besides that, there is very infrequently a case where people are just banned.

I say it whenever it comes up, getting banned here is actually quite an acomplishment. You can insult the forum owner and not get banned, you can use whatever language you want (within reason). How many other forums can say the same? Really, the only ways you can get banned are, 1) Malware, self explanatory. 2) Excessive spamming, if you are a new account that has done nothing but spammed, you are at higher risk, however if you have been around and you post off topic, or go on a bender, you will be warned, those posts removed, and you are free to go on your way. 3) "Trolling" again, thats another one with a really high threshold. Like crumbs for example, he was warned multiple times and given temporary bans, because he did have good information throughout his posts so he was cut some slack.

Besides very very serious behavior that is undeniably stupid, and if you don't understand why you are getting banned for it, you have no reason having access to plastic bags let alone the internet; the forums are pretty tolerant of reasonable behavior or mistakes that will eventually get your account banned if you ignore a handful of warnings.

We do discuss it, however in private, as it is a confidential process. We don't just spin a wheel, and whoever an arrow on it points to is who we ban. Moderators from different boards put together evidence supporting their reasoning for bans. Those include threads/comments the accused have made, as well as private reports from individuals. I don't think there is a single benefit to having that information public. The person who reports the accused in the first place wouldn't be safe, evidence gathered could be tampered with as soon as the person finds out what evidence is being used against them, and most of all, why does the public need to know? Having transparency in the forum's funds is one thing, so people know that money they have donated hasn't been spent on hookers and blow by Theymos. The entire business is between who is being banned, and those making the decision. That comes in the form of private warnings and ban appeals.


Baaadbearrrr, we agreed to keep that a secret  

*Edit* However I think it would be neat if it said, "Banned" on someone's account profile if they were banned.

Solicited Referal links are fine, people posting just to post their referal links however are not. For example, if I make a thread asking about how cex.io works, and someone is answering questions about it, and then offers me their referal link, thats fine.