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2081  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What services you wanna see with Bitcoin ? on: August 22, 2017, 10:42:31 PM
Movies ? gambling sites ? exchanges ? what kind of service you want to see involved with Bitcoin more ? 
I think what most of us want is to be able to use bitcoin in the real world, bitcoin can be used online almost seamlessly and you can buy anything that you can imagine with it while you are online, but to this day I have yet to buy something in a real store with bitcoin, I’m sure that if I saw a store accepting bitcoin as payment I will buy anything just to be able to say that I bought something in a store with bitcoin.
2082  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are the forkers purposely trying to kill BTC? on: August 22, 2017, 10:36:18 PM
The forks are shaking the very foundation of BTC's attraction ... that is away from the whims and motive of a controlling cabal. One could have been dismissed, but now a 2nd one starts establishing a pattern.


That is exactly what they are trying to achieve, they cannot become bitcoin if they do not kill the current bitcoin, this is a battle about power and the miners are trying to have an even greater influence in the network and the devs of core are doing their best to try to keep that influence at bay, I think at the end bitcoin is going to win but difficult times are ahead of us.
2083  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 1 Million satoshis per day on: August 22, 2017, 10:33:20 PM
I think it easy do 0.01 btc with 1 bitcoin,if trade not aggresive in yobit may do also more.
Why would entrust yobit? For me i wont use that site anymore. Better to look up on more reputable exchanges like Bittrex. Previously i do choose poloniex but now they do have some issues thats why i decide to go on another. 1 million satoshis is really an easy target specially if you have 1 BTC bankroll its really achievable but depending on how good you are on trading and possibly you can get more amount than that if prices would go together with you.
The most important thing to remember is that trading is not going to give you those results in a regular manner, you may lose 0.07 BTC one week and get profits of 0.21BTC the next week if you average your earnings per day you got a profit of 0.01BTC per day which was your goal but it was not a regular income, you are going to have good weeks and you are going to have bad weeks.
Yes it is possible in trading but don't forget the gambling site, if you are lucky there's a possibility also to earn 1 million Satoshi in gambling.
Forget about gambling, gambling is not going to bring you anything good to you, the chances of making money are against you and there is nothing you can do to change that, and not only that you could become addicted to gambling and overcoming an addiction is one of the hardest things you can do in the world, so it is better to not go that path.
2084  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do I hold? on: August 22, 2017, 10:30:08 PM
They say hodl is the way to go. I am sceptic about this. Sometimes it is just better for your nerves to decrease exposure. On the other hand, if I hodled all the coins I ever bought I would be stinking rich.

Long term speaking, hodling is indeed the way to go. If that hasn't been clear yet to the people by now, I seriously don't know when they will ever realize that. Short term speaking, cashing out profits isn't all that bad. In cases where the price has peaked at such a level, where you expect a correction to be due, it only makes sense to cash out some of your profits. It will allow you to buy back and increase the number of coins that you have -- who doesn't want that?
What it happens is that holding is not sexy enough, holding seems boring for a lot of people and they prefer to try their luck in trading without having any idea of how things really work, many people have the idea that the more they do the more productive they are but sometimes the most productive thing you can do is to wait.
waiting Is productive thing but one thing make it more productive with wait, if you work while waiting then you will get more then you imagine because just waiting gives you good amount but wait + work can give you even better, and the thing you said become boring while holding can also be remove by work while holding.
Well, there is something called active waiting, we can wait but that does not mean we do not have to do anything while you are waiting for your bitcoin to go up in value, you can try to earn more bitcoin, maybe you can try offering your services in the forum or maybe you could sell some digital products or even some physical goods in exchange of bitcoin.
2085  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin is a rat poison? on: August 21, 2017, 08:30:46 PM
****5*****

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6iubil/warren_buffet_said_bitcoin_is_rat_poison/

This post in reddit is very controversial as different groups are arguing as to who is the person responsible for calling bitcoin as a rat poison. The debate is still going on as one side says that  Charlie Munger and the other parties said that it was Warren Buffet. I dont know what or whom to believe. So anyone among you who knows the real story and is willing to share who is the real culprit.
Who cares? If they do not want to join the party and enjoy free money then that is their problem, some may argue that they are rich enough and they do not care but believe me rich people like them only care about producing even more money and they are going to regret not getting into bitcoin when they could single handedly buy an enormous portion of the bitcoin supply.
2086  Economy / Economics / Re: How to double your money using BTC? on: August 21, 2017, 08:23:01 PM
If this question has been asked much earlier,then i would had suggested to invest in good altcoins and do trading or to invest in a good ICO so that huge returns could be got.But in today's situation,there is no need to even invest in altcoins and take risks.Since bitcoin price is rapidly increasing,it would be better to just buy some bitcoins and store in a wallet for even just three months.By this way,you could even triple your money or even more than that.This method is followed by most of bitcoin investors today and bitcoin has not failed to deliver the desired results.
Bitcoin is hot at the moment but that does not mean that investing in altcoins is not a good option in fact if you think the price of bitcoin could go down soon then this is the time to buy altcoins since many altcoins lost some value and you can get them for cheap at this time and then you can wait for the next big pump.
2087  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the moon!!! on: August 21, 2017, 08:07:39 PM
People need to learn the lesson when bitcoin price goes down that is not the moment to sell that is the moment to buy, if people instead of selling their bitcoin bought at that price then they could have doubled their investment in less than a month, where you can get the double of what you invested in such a short time frame? Nowhere.
I guess already lot of people are buying bitcoin when they are getting cheaper prices comparatively. That is the reason we are seeing bitcoin prices are quickly bouncing back to new high now a days easily. The awareness about bitcoin investment benefits must be the reason behind this.

We can expect more intensive investments from new people incoming days so that we are not going to see any downfall for bitcoin prices. That is reason people are predicting bitcoin growth will be following exponential here after.
Exponential growth requires an exponential amount of money, besides I would not like to happen so soon, I do not have much bitcoin I would like to have at least 10 bitcoin before bitcoin truly skyrockets, so to me is preferable that bitcoin keeps a steady amount of growth in the next years since that will give me time to reach my goal.
The fact always doing the opposite your wish, because with the momentum growth of Bitcoin in recenlty, I believe 2018 is the year of era cryptocurrency and have many change about our system money is possible.
Well, I do not expect bitcoin to follow my wishes that is just the overall direction that I would like, according to my expectations it will take me a few years to reach that amount and I know that bitcoin is not going to stay still waiting for me and I know that as the price get higher it is going to become harder to get my target amount of bitcoin but at the same time I’m doing my best to get as much bitcoin as I can and as fast as possible.
2088  Economy / Economics / Re: Which country would be the first to eliminate fiat and convert to crypto fully? on: August 21, 2017, 07:57:47 PM
North Korea because their fiat is already worthless and cryptocurrencies are only used by criminals like Kim Hong Un. Nah but seriously, probably a smaller country. Wasn't there a tiny island that's currency is bitcoins but it means nothing because the island's only inhabited by one family?
There are many islands that have good standards of living and that have very low populations, however many of those islands use the dollar as their currency so maybe when the dollar begins to get more unstable as the economy of the United States worsen then that could be the time that some of those small countries decide to accept bitcoin as their official currency.
2089  Economy / Economics / Re: How long could bitcoin last? on: August 21, 2017, 07:53:35 PM
With the recent pump bitcoin has a good future. Who said that bitcoin will never be at 3k, 4k ??

I don't know what was the reason behind this but I think that bitcoin price will reach at least 5k until New Year.
i think that after crossing 4000$, it is now look like that bitcoin price will cross 6000$ before ending 2017. i think bitcoin will even then continue increasing.

To good to be true but i hope it too. By looking at the price of bitcoin right now, bitcoin life can be long, maybe 10-50 next years bitcoin still being used. Actually it's depend on the bitcoin user itself, if all bitcoin users are no more using bitcoin, bitcoin will be dead and this coin will be useless.
I doubt that is going to happen, what I mean is that maybe in the future bitcoin is not going to be the top coin any longer but to think it is going to disappear is not realistic, bitcoin is going to last more than all of us, I think there is a big chance bitcoin becomes the currency of the future, it is not going to be easy and I do not expect that to happen in my lifetime but I have hopes that is going to happen at some point.
2090  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How do i get free coins? on: August 21, 2017, 07:44:52 PM
define free?.
Free is just by clicking links you get coins  without using Efforts and money?
.
I define free
by Joining Signature campaign with the Use of Efforts without using any money.

There is not such a thing as free bitcoins, unless a relative or a stranger gave you coins out of nowhere you will have to work for them, if you are using faucets you are exchanging your time for money if you trade, you are exchanging your time and money for the chance to make even more money in the future, so as you can see it is almost impossible to get free bitcoins.
2091  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best books about blockchain technology? on: August 20, 2017, 09:54:24 PM
I know that books most of the time are the best source of knowledge but when it comes to something that changes as fast as cryptocurrencies then I think it is better to avoid books, books cannot be updated as fast as any blog or forum can, so while books are a great tool to learn, in this particular case books seems to not be the best option.
2092  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Being Unemployed Drives People to go to Bitcoin on: August 20, 2017, 09:48:11 PM
I guess unemployment does not necessarily drive people to bitcoin. What drives them is their need for money. I' m not judging anyone here, because even people with regular paying jobs still do bitcoin. What I mean is that when a person is in need, he or she will do something to earn a living. We are all searching for a cashflow, to sustain or to increase whatever we have at present. I think that's what happened to your sister and brother-in-law. Good thing they tried bitcoin instead of other things.

Yes, there are many people that have their jobs, but they still come to Bitcoin, because they are in financial needs. Especially people who have too many bills to pay, many expenses every month for different reasons, so it's very possible their wage isn't enough to pay everything they need. Bitcoin helps them this way, it's an extra source of money every month to cover expenses and maybe make them able to save some money to have fun somehow.
You are right but I’m someone that has always thought that is a better idea to cut expenses first, you will be surprised at how much money people waste in little things, I have seen people complaining about not earning enough money when they are drinking an expensive starbucks coffee while texting in the latest iphone, when I see that I cannot help but to laugh in my mind.
2093  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Becoming a Global Currency on: August 20, 2017, 09:44:08 PM
Bitcoin is already a global currency since its creation. Its available worldwide for everyone having access to the internet connection. In addition it is decentralized, so you don't need to create accounts and verify your identity. So it is obviously a global currency
Bitcoin has been a global currency from the beginning but at those stages bitcoin was not really useful since you could not do much with it, but now things have changed dramatically since you can buy all kind of stuff and pay for services all over the world, and as adoption grows then it will come to the point where you will not have to convert your bitcoin to fiat anymore and you could travel to any country and expect that someone there accepts bitcoin as a payment option.
2094  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: August 20, 2017, 09:37:02 PM
On my view you have to start immediately without waiting do not a fried form any loss if you waiting for long time many thing can pass through this is market, loss/winning  almost together
Yep! Waiting without any specific logic often leads to losses. The way crypto market is becoming popular, it is good to step into this world as soon as possible. But for that you need some capital, in order to start earning with little money you need to do mining, participation in signature campaigns etc.

To get started into the trading market should be as soon as possible, but you should first read the articles of those who have started first in the world of trading.
Because without you learning and following the existing forums, you will only experience losses in every trade
Learning knowledge, experience and skill trading is good, but don't let following some groups or thread talking about your coin trading or the issue you interested make you change your opinion soon.
There is nothing wrong with looking for information about your favorite coins, but I will keep my search exclusively for real news about it, most of the time the speculations that you can find about the price of a coin are unfounded, so it is better to ignore it, you are better of making your analysis yourself and arrive at your own conclusions that way if you make a mistake you can correct it the next time you do a trade.
2095  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Release the hounds : 45.8 BTC stolen - electrum-wallet.com CRIMINAL sticky pls on: August 18, 2017, 08:02:54 PM
executable from electrum-wallet.com.

I don't want to hear opinions on my stupidity.

Fucking idiots can't be fixed.  You are going to hear about your stupidity whether you like it or not.  Idiot.
Way too much to fucking get phished on, when dealing with money people need to take precautions and not just fucking click random links or Google.
The problem is that people need to change their behavior when dealing with money and they do not, for example if you are going to use your computer to store money, in this case bitcoin, then avoid installing anything other than the necessary tools and avoid downloading pirate software and do not click in every link you see, since it is possible that you lose your money if a virus gets in your computer.
With any higher amount that petty cash buy a damn Chromebook and use a trezor or keepkey. Don't fuck around with random .exe
why not use linux+electrum instead of trusting trezor hardware wallet when you can't be sure that's it's not tempered in transit Tongue
It depends on the amount of money you have, Linux and electrum is a very good combination if you are low in budget since Linux is free and the same is true for electrum. About the Chromebook I do not really like anything produced by Google since to me those are nothing but spy machines and the trezor is probably the best hardware wallet in the world.
2096  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Outlawed: Get Away from Bitcoin or Be Imprisoned! on: August 18, 2017, 07:56:37 PM
Okay, I know that the headline of this post seems to be too much but I am sure it has generated some eyeballs. Now, this is just another hypothetical situation: What if your government will decide one day that the use of and holding Bitcoin is illegal and anybody found to be contradicting this position can be thrown to jail with at least 5 years as the sentence without the possibility of using any internet-connected gadget?

I am assuming that the government would be using the latest technology and techniques  for surveillance and detection against people who are fond of Bitcoin.

Would you still be involved with Bitcoin or just be a sheep and follow along so you can't be a victim of the government overreach?
Assuming the government of my country start up with such….wait…have you heard of underground? Good. Everybody will just go underground, lol. Oh…you even added they will have a tech to track my activities. Okay, I will simply change my VPN address and they will hardly find out. Lol.
If you are being targeted by a strong opponent, like a government, there is nothing you can do to hide, except living in a cave and never using any electronic device for the rest of your life, people underestimate the capabilities of the governments to find particular individuals, you need to be very careful if you expect at some point to become a target.
2097  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do I hold? on: August 18, 2017, 07:53:38 PM
They say hodl is the way to go. I am sceptic about this. Sometimes it is just better for your nerves to decrease exposure. On the other hand, if I hodled all the coins I ever bought I would be stinking rich.

Long term speaking, hodling is indeed the way to go. If that hasn't been clear yet to the people by now, I seriously don't know when they will ever realize that. Short term speaking, cashing out profits isn't all that bad. In cases where the price has peaked at such a level, where you expect a correction to be due, it only makes sense to cash out some of your profits. It will allow you to buy back and increase the number of coins that you have -- who doesn't want that?
What it happens is that holding is not sexy enough, holding seems boring for a lot of people and they prefer to try their luck in trading without having any idea of how things really work, many people have the idea that the more they do the more productive they are but sometimes the most productive thing you can do is to wait.
2098  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 1 Million satoshis per day on: August 17, 2017, 05:48:30 PM
I think it easy do 0.01 btc with 1 bitcoin,if trade not aggresive in yobit may do also more.
Why would entrust yobit? For me i wont use that site anymore. Better to look up on more reputable exchanges like Bittrex. Previously i do choose poloniex but now they do have some issues thats why i decide to go on another. 1 million satoshis is really an easy target specially if you have 1 BTC bankroll its really achievable but depending on how good you are on trading and possibly you can get more amount than that if prices would go together with you.
The most important thing to remember is that trading is not going to give you those results in a regular manner, you may lose 0.07 BTC one week and get profits of 0.21BTC the next week if you average your earnings per day you got a profit of 0.01BTC per day which was your goal but it was not a regular income, you are going to have good weeks and you are going to have bad weeks.
2099  Economy / Economics / Re: How to double your money using BTC? on: August 17, 2017, 04:30:25 PM
Theres a cool and safe way to double your bitcoin, guess what? From trading Smiley , today is the right time to invest from soon to pump coins. You have so many choices, WAVES, ETC, ETH , STEEM and many more. If you buy any from these coins, your bitcoin will get multiply while the coin pumps itself.
This is the profit x2, profit earning from altcoin increasing => earning extra Bitcoin + profit earning from the price of Bitcoin increasing (dollar) => Sell BTC with high price and take good profit from both.

In my opinion, just buying bitcoins and waiting by the end of the year can yield you at least twice the investment that you made. If you are going to look at the charts, last January 2017 the prices of bitcoins were around $1000. In a matter of 6-7 months, the price of bitcoins has already skyrocketed to $2800 due to its increase in reputation. You can double your fiat by just investing and nothing else. But if you are in a rush, then I suggest trading as what you said since this is one of the most efficient way (other than joining signature campaigns) of doubling your money.
This is not always the case, bitcoin is having a tremendous year but we cannot expect every year to be like this, in the year bitcoin has gained more than 300% in value, even the most positive and bullish member of the forum was not expecting this, so trading should be part of our strategy to earn more bitcoin on the long term.
Yes, buy and wait will waste a lot of time, time is money, we should not waste. We should use bitcoin for altcoin trading, that would be a lot better buying and waiting, important is that we need experience and good skills in trading if we want to earn more Bitcoin. In addition, as you say now, the price of bitcoin is too high, it is difficult to continue to rise in the next year, so buying and waiting will not give us too much profit, trading is still a wise choice
With the price of bitcoin in an all time high this seems like the perfect opportunity to use that bitcoin to buy alts, alts at the moment are very cheap if you buy with bitcoin at the moment you can buy 14 ETH with a single bitcoin it was not long ago when you could only buy 8 ETH with your bitcoin this is a perfect opportunity that is not going to last long.
2100  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the moon!!! on: August 17, 2017, 04:26:52 PM
People need to learn the lesson when bitcoin price goes down that is not the moment to sell that is the moment to buy, if people instead of selling their bitcoin bought at that price then they could have doubled their investment in less than a month, where you can get the double of what you invested in such a short time frame? Nowhere.
I guess already lot of people are buying bitcoin when they are getting cheaper prices comparatively. That is the reason we are seeing bitcoin prices are quickly bouncing back to new high now a days easily. The awareness about bitcoin investment benefits must be the reason behind this.

We can expect more intensive investments from new people incoming days so that we are not going to see any downfall for bitcoin prices. That is reason people are predicting bitcoin growth will be following exponential here after.
Exponential growth requires an exponential amount of money, besides I would not like to happen so soon, I do not have much bitcoin I would like to have at least 10 bitcoin before bitcoin truly skyrockets, so to me is preferable that bitcoin keeps a steady amount of growth in the next years since that will give me time to reach my goal.
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