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2161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (September 17) on: May 28, 2022, 02:21:14 PM
That's why I don't understand why Canelo is so heavily favored considering he is coming from a big loss. I mean, GGG is not a left over fighter, he is a great fighter who can give a good fight with Canelo, and actually he is a big threat for Canelo since this man (GGG) will try again to convince people that he is the better fighhter.
Since GGG had won the match in the first fight then the man was a big threat to Canelo, Canelo had to train hard for the last fight to decide who could prove superior between the two boxers, the trilogy fight would decide who would be the victor for the ring lord title boxing, after the two previous boxing fights ended in a draw.
2162  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apa Yang Terjadi Pada Terra (LUNA)? on: May 27, 2022, 08:11:11 PM
Om bisa kasih sumbernya? Kalau saya membaca dari tweetnya Watcher. Guru sepertinya hanya exchange berikut yang suport $LUNA 2.0
Binance, KuCoin, LBank, Cryptocom, FTX, Bitfinex, Kraken, Huobi Global, Bitrue, Gateio, Bitget, MECX Global, Bybit, HitBTC, Okcoin, OKX.
CMIIW

Sumber: https://twitter.com/WatcherGuru/status/1529934210676539400?t=HhamKQ1q71JFEYAkKlxWLg&s=19
Mungkin hanya sebuah opini saja jika beragumentasi berdasarkan support dari Binance, secara umum exchange yang sudah support Luna 2.0 sudah sangat banyak dan terus akan semakin bertambah karena list suportnya sudah mendominasi top exchange. Terlepas dari pemasalahan diatas, maka akankah Luna baru akan potensial untuk mencapai peningkatan signifikan setelah menurunnya respon dari komunitas Luna yang sudah mengalami kerugian besar.
2163  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: May 27, 2022, 07:07:27 PM
Benar gan, selain fee withdrawnya terbilang murah maka dari tampilan marketnya juga sudah lebih bagus. Volume perdagangan juga lumayan banyak dibandingkan tetangganya. Saya sendiri sekarang masih menggunakan indodax, ya tapi sepertinya juga harus migrasi ke exchange sebelah.
Walaupun banyak fitur unggulan lainnya tetapi fee penarikan menjadikan daya tarik utama dari trader atau investor untuk migrasi ke exchange Tokocrypto, selain itu karena partner dengan Binance maka setiap transaksi keduanya lebih cepat menggunakan proses internal dan perdagangan spot trading seperti satu server dengan Binance karena relatif semuanya koin memiliki harga sama.
2164  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Robot Trading, Menjanjikan Profit, Benarkah? on: May 27, 2022, 06:55:30 PM
Idealnya demikian sebelum terjadi marak kasus robot trading abal-abal yang merugikan banyak dana korban investasi disana. Namun bahkan setelah terjadi kasus pun, nampaknya Bappebti 'belum sepenuhnya siap' untuk mengatur regulasi dari robot trading

"Yang kurang tinggal penasihat untuk kami, jadi siapa pihak yang memastikan bahwa isinya robot trading itu benar. Soalnya kami nggak punya kemampuan untuk memastikan isinya benar," -Plt Kepala Bappebti Didid Noordiatmoko-
Pandangan saya dari perjelasan pihak Bappebti diatas tidak tampak dalam kapasitas untuk memonitoring segala aspek yang berhubungan penyelesaian masalah yang sudah terjadi di lingkup perdagangan berjangka termasuk robot trading, jadi sangat tidak logis mereka mengeluarkan pendapat bahwa gak punya kemampuan untuk memastikan isinya dan padahal sebagian pemula saja sudah mengerti skema dari robot trading yang akhirnya akan menyebabkan kerugian besar kepada masyarakat yang terlibat didalamnya karena iming-iming untuk keuntungan instan. Dari sekian banyak robot trading termasuk ATG saat ini belum ada campur tangan dari Bappebti dari sejak awal, ATG saja saat ini sudah berulah tentang WD dari maks jumlah $2k menjadi $100 dan itu pun tidak tahu akan akan di proses, jadi buktikan kehadiran Bappebti untuk menuntaskan kasus penarikan dari ATG atau memproses pihak yang terkait karena indikasi penipuan dari alasan "maintenance" sudah menjadi andalan bagi mereka.
2165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Does Luna( Terra) worth to invest? on: May 27, 2022, 06:29:16 PM
basically LUNA classic is just becoming more and more like memecoins where the bullrun could comes out of nowhere and this is madness in itself because it was former high ranked altcoins
and see how this turns, becoming a coin that's as low as shitcoins, even get manipulated by the ones with big capital too. the disaster of LUNA has bring itself into this state.
Sad to see the classic luna price because after the launch of the new luna coin, the old luna will be worse than the meme coin, the old luna coin journey story is ending soon and the potential of the new luna coin has not been measured, but my prediction is not high expectations for investors have lost assets high of investment in old luna and UST coins.
2166  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: May 26, 2022, 02:42:50 PM
Tidak saya pungkiri juga faktor fee withdraw menjadi salah satu alasan beralih exchange dari Indodax ke Tokocrypto (terutama setelah mereka upgrade ke v.2) namun meskipun ada exchange lokal lain yang bahkan lebih murah fee nya faktor kecepatan wd temasuk di hari libur yang belum disupport (waktu itu) jadi membuat saya juga beralih. Selain itu pernah juga punya pengalaman kurang nyaman ketika proses deposit di Indodax.
Salah satu keunggulan dari Tokocrypto tentang fee penarikan yang murah dan kecepatan proses penarikan ke bank konvensional meskipun dilakukan pada hari libur, jadi berdasarkan faktor tersebut banyak trader sudah beralih ke exchange itu, sehingga merasakan sensasi real aset di exchange itu milik sendiri karena proses transaksi yang cepat memungkinkan kita bisa mencairkan rupiah saat melakukan penarikan di lokasi bank, sebenarnya sudah sejak lama kita menginginkan fitur penarikan cepat tapi sangat bersyukur akhirnya Tokocrypo mewujudkannya.
2167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto exchanges that support the new LUNA on: May 26, 2022, 02:34:03 PM
A new change after their own fall, I want to forget the past, but honestly, I don't have faith in Luna anymore no matter how they change. Anyway, those who have lost will have their own lessons. I'm not sure if the people who have lost can make it through the pain, but one of the big lessons for all of us when it comes to the market is this. For now, I personally have ignored it since it got caught up in the price crash.
The only hope is only on the development of the new Luna but there is no guarantee of full recovery from previous losses, everything is in the worst condition for Luna and UST investors as their investments have already lost value overnight, hopefully it will be a lesson in investing that no coin is safe to keep except only Bitcoin.
2168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Final! on: May 26, 2022, 10:44:35 AM
The previous meeting record might be a good reference when analyzing the next match. Based on the meeting record I admit that Real Madrid are better than Liverpool, but will that be a guarantee to say that Real Madrid can win the next match later? Of course not.
An answer like this is what I want because what you say can give a very clear reflection that the guarantee is still uncertain even though Real Madrid looks better than Liverpool Based on existing records.
Every match will not end with the case of the same score as the previous match, everything has changed from last 2018 to the present because we have analyzed the good potential of Liverpool and also Real Madrid, so the previous match will not be a reference or analysis for the final match of several more days, because I believe the final match will be very memorable compared to the previous match.
2169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will Terra (LUNA) recover some time in the future? on: May 26, 2022, 10:02:55 AM
Little to no chance, only miracle could revive Luna back, the only thing that's holding on to where Luna has been priced right now is only those people who believed Luna will bounce back to $1 so they could Lambo all the way when it happens. However, with 6.5 Trillion supply that's close to impossible for a comeback even with $0.50.
Many people realize that supply has increased by 6.5 Trillion so it is very doubtful that an increase of $ 1 even $ 0.1 is impossible, but maybe in Luna v2 it will touch $ 1 because of lower supply and distribution of vesting for pre and pre attack Luna holders.
2170  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: May 25, 2022, 05:20:12 PM
Having star players, of course, does not promise the team will have a good performance, just like Ronaldo at Manchester United, this season Ronaldo has put all his ability in helping Manchester to win, but Ronaldo hard work has not been able to make Manchester United better because Ronaldo is like only working alone in a team, Ronaldo good performances are not supported by good performances from other players so no matter how hard Ronaldo tries of course he will fail, I think in this case Ronaldo has shown his capacity as the best player in the world even though Manchester is down but Ronaldo is still able to show good performance individually.
Individual performance will not be able to beat the opposing team, so solid teammates are needed for the goal of winning in every match, but individual performance like Ronaldo can be relied on for the goal scoring part because he has the ability to do that and his running speed factor is unquestionable.
2171  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casino Game on: May 25, 2022, 04:57:32 PM
This is the reason why people don't want to share their information and some people are aware with this kind of activity that's why they want to keep safe on the internet or the online world. KYC sometimes get bothered by the people who are conservative with their information, also having a posting with social media and images does not get your information directly with the use of KYC You are willingly giving your information without husle to them to find out that is your real name, address and any confidential information.
Maybe users on the platform have no other choice because of the regulations have to use KYC to make withdrawals, I also don't agree to KYC but for gambling sites that the community trusts maybe I don't think anything bad from KYC has been submitted, but I don't recommend anyone to do KYC because it must be based on individual decisions.
2172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Holy Crap ! Terra is gone to zero ?!?! on: May 25, 2022, 03:49:34 PM
Then it will be very risky investment because of you know luna is pump and dump coin at the moment, and i see a bad news something like that korean police will go to stop luna foundation. But it’s depend on you, if want to short term investment then you can invest small amount of money but never hold it for the long term then high possibility to vanish your money.
There has been a lot of bad news about Luna recently about the investigation of the case of losses from UST but until now the news has not been proven to be verified, because Do Kown is still active for the Luna V.2 program without the facts of arrest as reported in many news. So actually the news can affect Luna coins directly because its movement is very sensitive depending on the updates of any news on Twitter and Luna official group.
2173  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: May 25, 2022, 03:19:35 PM
Bisa kita lihat nanti penutupan/akhir bulan mei ini, Kalau saya melihat patern di tidak hanya tahun sebelumnya, di bulan mei ini dianggap tempat Start dan finish-nya hrga. Bisa jadi akan side away sepanjang dan hingga akhir tahun ini, Memang harus orang yang pro bener untuk opit di fase ini. Kalau tanggung ya mending long term, nyicil dikit-dikit sampai tahun depan.
Jika berdasarkan analisis dari tahun sebelumnya maka ada kemungkinan mei tahun ini akan terulang pattern yang sama, tetapi apapun prediksinya semua tergantung pada pergerakan real yang akan terjadi dalam minggu ini dan hingga saat ini sideway 29-30k begitu terasa sehingga sulit menentukan arah pergerakan sebenarnya, jadi pembelian secara nyicil (DCA) mungkin strategi yang disarankan dalam investasi karena dalam pergerakan pasar kripto terkadang akan menyentuh pada harga lebih terendah sebelum pemulihan harga pada kuartal selanjutnya
2174  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: May 25, 2022, 03:02:37 PM
Untuk saat ini Tokocrypto dan Indodax merupakan dua exchange lokal yang masih aktif saya gunakan, cuman sedikit berbeda di Tokocrypto hanya tempat untuk saya melakukan penarikan ke bank lokal karena proses withdrawnya yang cepat dan juga fee yang cukup murah, untuk Indodax masih saya gunakan tetapi saat ini tidak terlalu aktif trade karena masih nyangkut di altcoin,
Untuk penarikan lebih dominan menggunakan Tokocrypto karena fee yang digunakan bersifat tetap meskipun kita melakukan penarikan besar, berbeda dengan exchange lokal sebelah yang menentukan fee berdasarkan persen, saya lebih aktif pada Tokocrypto untuk exchange lokal tetapi karena sekarang sudah diberlakukan pajak maka exchange luar menjadi idola untuk trading karena saya lebih dominan melakukan scalping untuk koin yang lagi hype.

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jadi bisa diasumsikan Indodax sebagai exchange lokal bagi saya hold koin untuk sementara ini. Untuk exchange yang sering saya gunakan trading yaitu Binance dan saya pakek pair BUSD agar tidak ada fee yang dikenakan, lumayan transaksi dengan nominal agak sedikt besar yang biasanya memakan sampai 4 hingga 7$ fee bisa gratis di Binance dengan pair BUSD.
Untuk pair BUSD dalam binance memiliki fee yang lebih rendah dibandingkan untuk pair koin stabil lainnya tetapi tentunya secara keseluruhan fee Binance lebih rendah dibandingkan fee dari exchange lokal yang sekarang ini sudah memberlakukan pajak dalam setiap transaksi, secara perbandingan fee maka relatif trader memilih investasi/trade pada exchange Binance.
2175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Terra Luna Delisting from Binance, investors lose millions of dollars! on: May 25, 2022, 10:05:17 AM
I know that they are loosing a lot and they were using their last resources to buy luna with the hope the price can go back again to the 1 buck. It's impossible for the price of luna to reach 1 cent and so who will be buying trillions of tokens from the market just to pump the coin that has no future?
That will never happen.

That's why i called them all as gamblers instead of investors.
Many traders believe that Luna will rise at the price of $1 but speculation is just wishful thinking because it is no longer possible for investors to trust their investment in Luna again, I think the team is also uncooperative because they did not consider the token burning solution from the community suggestion.
2176  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Panduan orang yang baru bergabung di forum? on: May 22, 2022, 06:21:58 PM
saya yakin di forum ini (terutama member lama) pasti sudah pernah merasakan kejutan mendapatkan banyak uang tak terduga dari bounty (itu terjadi di antara tahun 2017 -2018)

tidak ada yang tahu tentang nasib seseorang di masa depan, selama fokus dan tekun dengan apa yang di kerjakan pasti bakal berbuah manis, apalagi saat ini ada banyak cara untuk menghasilakn kripto (trading, mining, bounti dll)
Maka dari itu saya menyarankan untuk tidak menjudge orang lain meskipun mereka masih pemula, mereka memiliki impian besar yang kemungkinan bisa tercapai karena tidak ada yang mustahil dalam kripto tapi tentunya semuanya harus didasari dari niat dan kerja keras untuk mengejar impian yang besar, meskipun rentan waktu 2017-2018 merupakan tahun keemasan bagi bounty hunter tetapi saat 2021 lalu juga ada bounty yang penghasilan tinggi dan kalau sekarang sudah berganti era dengan NFT, misalnya NFT Ghozali sudah mendapatkan uang miliaran rupiah dari penjualan NFT nya dan saya yakin dia juga akan ditertawakan jika saja dia mempunyai akun bitcointalk serta memposting ingin kaya dan sukses sebelum dia berjaya dari NFT.
2177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any changes experienced within body - Gambling??? on: May 22, 2022, 05:27:46 PM
SO this fight of right and wrong is affecting his physical health. We are forbidden to gamble in our religion. That is why we don't gamble - so I can not comment on any body change- But one thing is clear. Everyone face different problems while gambling.
Maybe for you is an exception because you definitely avoid gambling, but the OP and some of the posts above that about the effects of gambling can affect psychologically even though you already have mental immunity, but the influence will be fatal if left unchecked, it's better to immediately consult a psychological doctor. So avoid anything to bet on high bets because anyone will definitely not accept defeat, so focus your mind on your main job and gambling is only part of entertainment such as enjoying betting on soccer matches, will enjoy the fun of soccer matches more.
2178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: May 22, 2022, 05:00:11 PM
^^ Yeah that's a remarkable comeback but honestly Aston Villa should have done lot better to stop those goal. Better blocking and awareness should have stopped City from going ahead. But well Aston Villa did very well to give City a stroke in the crucial game. The way they striker those goals against a top side is really praiseworthy but sorry to see that going in vain now.

Seems like City lifting PL now.
Man City were very impressive in the second half and I think Man City were in complete control in the second half and didn't let anyone win the match before the second half ended, So it's certain that Man City will lift the trophy for this season.
2179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] George Kambosos vs Devin Haney - Undisputed Lightweight Title - June 5 on: May 22, 2022, 03:23:45 PM
Certainly, there are still lots of people who have not forgotten what happened back that day when Pacquaio got robbed in that fight.
On the same note, people will watch this Kambosos-Haney fight as well as the whole boxing organization if there will be some biased judgment but they are also hoping that this time it will be a clean and fair fight.
In every boxing match there should be strict rules for fair judges, because maybe some viewers or television viewers can count every punch during the match, but if the judge has set for victory to a certain boxer then the match will damage the reputation for every boxing sport. Judges must play a more prudent and fair role for all boxers and do not discriminate for away boxers or not.
2180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Final! on: May 22, 2022, 03:00:21 PM
Before we watch the Champions League final, let's look at the match one of the teams that will play, Liverpool. Liverpool will play their last match in the Premier League against Wolves FC. If they don't manage to become champions, at least we can see how they play to be a picture of their strength as well as preparation for other important matches later.
Even though Liverpool will play the match against Wolves FC, but I believe they will not use the same strategy for the match in the Champions League Final, Liverpool and Real Madrid will give a surprise for the biggest match in the Champions League Final, So any strategy about Liverpool in the match later only take advantage of the weakness of Wolves FC.
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