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221  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2014, 11:35:05 AM
Traders are Bitcoin's cancer.
222  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2014, 11:06:42 AM
Oh look. A wall at 320 trying to push us down more because it isn't enough yet.

These people won't stop till we're at zero. It's their life mission to destroy this thing.
223  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2014, 05:04:06 AM
I haven't seen this one in a while:

Just shaking out the weak hands.
224  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2014, 05:03:18 AM
Cheap coins everyone!
This is awesome right?

Right?
225  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2014, 03:48:15 AM
Everyone enjoying the pump and dump?
226  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2014, 01:06:10 AM
I think we are going deeper than 300, I hope this finishes soon, it is not good for enviroment

i hope for sub 200$, want to buy another 0.5btc down there  Grin Grin Grin

I'm sure i'm not reading this right. You want Butcoin to drop 130 dollars just so you can buy 0.5 coin? I'm sure you're not serious.
227  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2014, 10:37:33 PM
Just another pump and dump but 30 bucks lower. The traders and dumper will continue to do this till there is notva single buyer left.
228  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2014, 08:16:24 PM
Looks like its time for $350 or so now.

Traders will dump on everyone who buys.
229  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2014, 06:16:09 PM
The typical Bitcoin trader: omg this bear market just never ends. How is this even possible. I don't unde...wait, hold on, what's that?
Oooh shit! People are buying and the price went up 20 bucks! I need to dump my coins NOW! Or else i won't make my 50 bucks profit!  

Ok done.
Where were we? Oh, right, as i was saying i have no clue how this bear market blah blah.
230  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2014, 06:09:41 PM
I need to ask again. Is this where big money and wallstreet gets in.
I was told they were absolutely dying to get it and were just waiting for the price to drop.
So this must be it, right guys?
231  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2014, 06:08:01 PM
Everyone gobbling up all these cheap coins? This must be heaven for you guys.
232  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2014, 10:26:28 AM
Cheap coins man. Cheap coins. Why is there no big party here. This is what you all wanted!
233  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 03:39:36 PM

50 cents for every post. Riiiight. We can conclude the article is bs.
234  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 10:21:23 AM
My buys for the past month have been at $310-$320...once US wakes up maybe people will panic sell when they see the lower price.

Yeah let's hope we go lower. Just what Bitcoin needs. After that when you get your cheap coins we will magically go up again making you rich.
235  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 10:17:46 AM
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Cheap coins man, cheap coins.
I'm sick of those loosers constantly ejaculating: "cheap coins, cheap coins"   Sad

The thing is you don't hear it anymore. Because all these idiots praying for cheap coins found out that going down actually wasn't a good thing. They have been buying all the way down and now are stuck with expensive coins they don't know what to do with.
They expected the price to magically go up the minute after they got their cheap coins. Which obviously didn't happen.
No they're crying here every day about the price and wondering why we won't go up anymore.
236  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 09:22:20 AM
this really doesn't look good.

Always darkest before the dawn.

Yeah this is either the last shakeout or last chance to jump ship for a while...


I guess no one really knows until we break either way

Just shaking out the weak hands right?
For the 80th time since 1200.
237  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 09:19:10 AM
What's everybody crying about?
Cheap coins man, cheap coins. You were begging for this for months.
Everytime the price dropped 10 dollars the champagne bottles opened and you were "gobbling up" all these cheap coins. So what's the problem exactly?
238  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 14, 2014, 09:18:17 PM
Is it, or is it not, happening?


It's a pump. After that comes the dump because all the retard traders need to take their 50 bucks profit and kill yet another uptrend. On top of that some whale will dump 1000 coins and we're down for at least another month or so.
239  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 14, 2014, 09:16:28 PM
Nah no rockets yet, still not time to sell.  Grin

Yeah make sure to dump on all the new people who after weeks finally dare to buy again.

Fucking idiot traders.
240  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2014, 03:09:09 PM
We're starting to go in circles...


They are not minor problems... The USD volume (minus changebacks) is flat since April, and still less than January

USD tx is "flat" only from a very shallow analysis. Looking at it in more detail, we see it drastically fell from a peak value in December last year, with one intermediate spike in March, to a low point in May, and has been rising since then despite falling price.

USD tx going up since May despite falling price means one thing and one thing only: usage is going up since then.

Sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative, but it's about as close to a fact as you can get, given our imperfect ways to observe the economic network size.


Yes, I will give the same spiel again.  As I wrote before,  adoption surely increased from 2012 to 2013 to 2014. But I do not see any clear signs that adoption has been increasing over the last year.  The most germane indicators that you use as evidence of year-to-year increase show a decrease and stagnation since January.

Bitpay went from 5 million USD per month to 30 million per month from mid 2013 to mid 2014, and you're "not seeing any clear signs adoption is increasing". That's really pretty funny... Let me try to drive home my point that you're cherry picking now:

Is there a climatology department at your university? Maybe go over there in a year when the latest climate data does not show an increase in average temperate or some other metric that is used in the global climate models, and tell them that it looks like climate change/global warming is over, since their latest data point doesn't show a continuation of the trend. See how they'll laugh as they you show you the door.

I'm being a bit facetious here, the Bitcoin market trend is less established (and less researched) than climate trends, but the principle is the same:

If there has been a strong, clear trend of about 5 years, you cannot conclude from a weaker subtrend of a few months that the larger trend has reversed.

You can be "skeptical" perhaps based on the latest data points, but the global assessment still has to be driven by the global trend, not the local one.


I'll summarize:

Fact: Adoption is way up from 2010 (when the network went live on a global scale).

Fact: The latest available data that is indisputably in favor of growing adoption is from mid 2013 to mid 2014 (e.g. Bitpay).

Fact: The intra-2014 data is less conclusive, showing both signs of falling trends and rising trends.

Conclusion: If in one or two years from now, the numbers (like USD tx, Bitpay/Coinbase volume) are stagnant compared to now, we could perhaps conclude adoption halted. But as of December 2014, it is a safe conclusion, given the data, that adoption has been growing.

Great. Now everyone dump.
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