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What's the guarantee and will you take payment after guarantee?
If not then these, sell few good cards to first users then screw the rest newbie micro pyramid scams are starting to get old.
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Hey my activity is 420 time to celebrate  |
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Leveraged longs are going full retard on finex  think it's a full cycle, shorts going up they turn more bulish and leverage more, shorts see longs going up and short more ... What makes you think being long is a poor choice? With a couple of big crashes in the background, who is left to sell? Less selling = less supply to stop rallies = rallies gain steam = bull market Less buying = less demand to stop crashes = crashes gain steam = bear market When 10k coin market sells doesn't do much to the price, it's time to rethink being a bear. Not that it's a bad choice per se, just like to see lower leveraged longs in total. Plus they usually put close stop losses so any minor move is greatly amplified by leverage and i prefer to see that to shorts |
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Leveraged longs are going full retard on finex think it's a full cycle, shorts going up they turn more bulish and leverage more, shorts see longs going up and short more ... |
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Send me the card i'll send you $15 in BTC after 5day warranty
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It would take the largest Mining Cartel a month to mine 20k coins
Or a big mine holding them for 14 months, waiting for the price to recover. More probably the net sum of many miners doing the same, but also speculators who need to liquidate some of their holdings for similar reasons. Unless they have triple deep pockets, im sure they have to pay back the capital expenditure, ultility (electricity a HUGE expense) company, rents and employees salary weekly or monthly. Well yes, but if they thought the price would recover quickly, they would borrow the money and plan to pay back the loan when the price went back up, but that didn't happen, so they borrowed more...and more. If they are close to maxing out their credit, they could be in deep trouble, particularly when it looks like the next ATH (if it ever happens) could still be a year away. UPDATE: BTC swaps on BFX now at 21,425. ~ 3,500 to go before the trap swings shut. Leveraged bears are taking the bait. I don't think they're hitting the market yet. There's barely any volume on finex |
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A miner isn't going to dump BTC20k at a time, they are going to sell some fraction of BTC3600 per day. Even the biggest miner out there isn't selling more than a couple hundred per day. The vast majority of miners are holding. The current price is laughable. I'll say it one more time and then I'm done. The miners aren't causing the decline in price.
If they're holding and paying for electricity out of pocket then they're becoming investors instead of just miners |
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If this bear market has been largely caused by Chinese miners that can do nothing with bitcoins except sell them, then it is likely to end when one of two things happen: Either they run out of stockpiled coins to sell over and above coins they are mining, or when the Chinese economy gets so bad that they realize that the killer app is to sneak out of the country with them.
Right now Bitcoins seems to be an answer in search of a problem: Most obviously capital controls in a world where capital is still largely mobile. When this situation changes, it is likely to be sudden and swift although the time frame is difficult to predict with any accuracy.
Miners aren't the ones selling in this market. It's pure speculative manipulation. A miner would never dump coins and cause the price to decline. They would sell the minimum number of coins necessary to cover costs at the best price possible and stock the rest for a much higher price. Lets put this one to bed, miners are not dumping coins and they are certainly not doing them as a market order. Best... Post... Recently. Gotta agree with rolling. Miners are among the most optimistic of the bulls as a group. It doesn't matter how optimistic miners are. Miners have to service their debt and to meet expenses just like everybody else. If you postpone selling because of a bear market, you can end up NEEDING to sell more rather than less because the price is lower, the loan payments are higher and all your other expenses remain the same. It doesn't matter one bit if it's market orders or limit orders creating more overhead resistance. Partially true. Miners may have to start selling at some point if they are no longer able to service debt with other income streams but a market order has a huge difference in this market compared to a limit order. A miner would NEVER dump 5k coins in single market order. It causes too much slippage and the market seems to stabilize at a lower price after a big downward movement. It's not miners causing these major movements. If a miner has BTC20k to push he'd prob put a sell wall and if no one is biting he has to dump. On a separate note oh look there are over BTC2k on finex till 240, recall there were about that much till 250 a day ago. But at least looks like people are nibbling at 240 |
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If this bear market has been largely caused by Chinese miners that can do nothing with bitcoins except sell them, then it is likely to end when one of two things happen: Either they run out of stockpiled coins to sell over and above coins they are mining, or when the Chinese economy gets so bad that they realize that the killer app is to sneak out of the country with them.
Right now Bitcoins seems to be an answer in search of a problem: Most obviously capital controls in a world where capital is still largely mobile. When this situation changes, it is likely to be sudden and swift although the time frame is difficult to predict with any accuracy.
Mined coins are not that much, 3600 per day and the Chinese probably only have less than 35% share of that so thats only 1200 coins per days assuming they sell all of them every day. There is more belief of short traders and options sellers using leverage. 3600 is not that much  that's like additional $850,000 sell pressure every single day. BTC is not that liquid to easily sustain that. But some relief will come in 18months |
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re: dissent on bitcoin quiet for a few pages ... why bother constantly reminding you bunch of fanatics that bitcoin has been in a death spiral downwards for over a year ever since karpeles used a billion non existent dollars to falsely manipulate the price to the highs we saw while robbing the planet of 650,000 bitcoin ? or remind you of any of the other dozens of intentional exchange thefts ? of any of the other obvious extremely bad aspects of what bitcoin fundamentally is or has become ? you greedy and desperate fuckwits just cry bullish bullish bullish blah blah blah good buying opportunity to the moon oooo look at this line it says buy now etc etc etc ad-nausea-um even to the point of constantly making new threads in a fairly obvious concerted attempt to bury negative posts regardless of what anyone says and regardless of facts in front of your faces meanwhile actively encouraging people to ignore anyone who doesn't also praise bitcoin like it's the fucking messiah and a bunch of you have presumably actually put everyone else on ignore who doesn't praise bitcoin like you do ... those of us with our heads not firmly up our assess only have so much energy and time to expend trying to inform people of your lies and delusions ... i know i'm sick of it ...
From signature Coinbase Is THE Place to Buy Your Bitcoins! https://coinbase.com/?r=528a0de17f383142df00040c&utm_campaign=user-referral&src=referral-link Sign Up For Cryptsy! Trade Alts! https://www.cryptsy.com/users/register?refid=15696BTC: 1Mrr2cPbZc4nmV236AS31vdCP24J9TbJpo LTC: LV5UoExrVxU3ddrCKCMZ2Wx5odbkUf7JhT I Like Free Magic Internet Money! Smiley My Cryptsy Trade Key: ad89bb4885a1f92eb7efd5db30412676673ded0e Ohh the irony. How did you get away from my ignore list? You funny i like that *disclaimer i have made thousands of dollars with bitcoin and do hold bitcoin in the double digits today and actively trade it - my signature i haven't bothered to change in well over a year ... probably i should ... huh ? Nah keep it, your trolling is not as fun without parallel subliminal support of BTC |
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re: dissent on bitcoin quiet for a few pages ... why bother constantly reminding you bunch of fanatics that bitcoin has been in a death spiral downwards for over a year ever since karpeles used a billion non existent dollars to falsely manipulate the price to the highs we saw while robbing the planet of 650,000 bitcoin ? or remind you of any of the other dozens of intentional exchange thefts ? of any of the other obvious extremely bad aspects of what bitcoin fundamentally is or has become ? you greedy and desperate fuckwits just cry bullish bullish bullish blah blah blah good buying opportunity to the moon oooo look at this line it says buy now etc etc etc ad-nausea-um even to the point of constantly making new threads in a fairly obvious concerted attempt to bury negative posts regardless of what anyone says and regardless of facts in front of your faces meanwhile actively encouraging people to ignore anyone who doesn't also praise bitcoin like it's the fucking messiah and a bunch of you have presumably actually put everyone else on ignore who doesn't praise bitcoin like you do ... those of us with our heads not firmly up our assess only have so much energy and time to expend trying to inform people of your lies and delusions ... i know i'm sick of it ...
From signature Coinbase Is THE Place to Buy Your Bitcoins! https://coinbase.com/?r=528a0de17f383142df00040c&utm_campaign=user-referral&src=referral-link Sign Up For Cryptsy! Trade Alts! https://www.cryptsy.com/users/register?refid=15696BTC: 1Mrr2cPbZc4nmV236AS31vdCP24J9TbJpo LTC: LV5UoExrVxU3ddrCKCMZ2Wx5odbkUf7JhT I Like Free Magic Internet Money! Smiley My Cryptsy Trade Key: ad89bb4885a1f92eb7efd5db30412676673ded0e Ohh the irony. How did you get away from my ignore list? You funny i like that |
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If you can give 15day warranty and accept payment after that warranty expires (i.e. after 15days) i'll take one
Sorry I cant. I offer refunds, but the balance never gets reveresed Hmm so you expect me to trust a newbie that the balance won't got bad in 15 days (after about 10 sbux sellers screwed ppl here). Yet you're not confident enough to trust that i pay you in 15days? If you stand by your guarantee but don't trust me we can use escrow that'll release balance after 15days if card is still good. I'll update status here so it'd be a good vouch if you're legit that is  |
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If you can give 15day warranty and accept payment after that warranty expires (i.e. after 15days) i'll take one
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We are 18 months from halving, when will we start to see the halving bubble start to build???
I am thinking it is a year out.... languish around 300 for another 12 months....
Not soon enough. 18months is an eternity in BTC world. Probably not till 3-4months before the halving. |
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And yet, (see ChartBuddy above) Their book remains relatively flat. Still, not bad for what, a month? Do they still have 0 fees |
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Send me the card i'll send you $15 in BTC after 5day warranty
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Too much negative feedback. I'll take one if you'll take payment after 10day warranty. I.E you send first and if the card is still good after your 10day guarantee i'll send $25 in BTC to you
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Can we get the shorts above BTC20k and longs bellow $15M kthnxbye
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How many of you actually sent money first without an escrow to a newbie with a negative trust? Think i should be making some newbie accounts and start selling air. I heard there's one born every minute but c'mon
You did (and it also went to zero). Who do you source your hot air from?  This sellers neg trust wasn't from a failed purchase, it was just from one of those "protectors of the threads" who negs everyone selling SB cards. Sometimes ya just gotta take a chance. Win some, lose some? Besides, I'm still holding out a little hope to get my card replaced from this scoundrel.   Touche, but in my defense he did replace my card and i wasn't really expecting to get it but just to prove a point. Unfortunately later people PMed me how they paid him $300 and he didn't deliver. |
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How many of you actually sent money first without an escrow to a newbie with a negative trust? Think i should be making some newbie accounts and start selling air. I heard there's one born every minute but c'mon
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