Woah there, don't forget about the rest of us as it's still pretty close right down to the twenties on the leaderboard. I'm in thirteenth position but still only nine points from LFC in at the top. I think anyone other than probably the bottom five are still in with a very good chance of getting into the top five, especially if you turn your form around with a few good weeks and we've already seen a couple of players make some mighty climbs from the bottom with a few good runs. I don't know why there's players who aren't putting their scores in. You can fill them out for the entire season if you wanted so nobody should be missing games. Just put the scores in as 2-1 or something to the home or strongest team and you might get lucky as that to me seems to be the most popular score (a popular bet is often both teams to score and the strongest team to win if you don't want to try get the exact score right). Also, don't forget that there are five consolation prizes for the top five highest scorers in a round so you can still win your money back or even a little more if you get the highest points from a round overall.

Prizes for those that may have forgotten:

1st: 0.1
2nd: 0.04
3rd: 0.02
4th: 0.015
5th: 0.01


Consolation prizes for the top five users who score the most from a weekly round:

1st: 0.01
2nd: 0.005
3rd: 0.005
4th: 0.005
5th: 0.005

So there's always something to play for.

I think it's a little different on youtube as they rely on likes and subscribers to get boosted in the YouTube algorithm so their videos are shown to other users as recommended, but it is annoying and I don't know anyone who's gonna like a video or subscribe just because they're prompted. I hardly ever like videos and I'm only going to subscribe to a channel if I actually like their content and not just because they asked (I mean, who is actually going to subscribe to a channel they don't like), so it's futile asking from my perspective, and as I said above I'm also probably much more likely to not give them what they want if they annoyingly actually ask for it.


It kind of is. People used to do it with their address here but that's largely died out IE if you liked this post please consider donating and then provided their bitcoin addy.

I probably did sign up sometime in 2017 and had problems onwards, but I mailed their Customer Service a few months ago or so and never got a response at all either (though it wasn't a huge issue but to not get a response at all is unusual and quite unprofessional for a big company. If there were better options for me I would have abandoned the service long ago though). You may have a point about remoter workers. That was the position I applied for but I don't see them on their careers page anymore. Not sure why they'd get rid of them first though as there's benefits to them and are probably cheaper to hire or emply than office-based ones, but if they're more like third party self-employed contractors (like I am) it's easier to get rid of them without payouts and running into other legalities etc (depending on what sort of contract they're given if any. Most are just classed as 'temp' employees so can be made redundant at anytime for any reason).

Do beggars on the street stop begging even though most people find it embarrassing and look down upon it? Some people just have no shame and all they care about is getting money (and let's be honest that's all this guy wants his merit for so he can move up a rank). Begging for merit is off topic for a start as well as unnecessary. If people like your post then they'll merit it. In fact, I'd be much more likely to not merit a post if I saw someone asking for it even if the post was deserving.  People who are begging or asking for merit should just be told to stop as a first line and most probably will, but if they continue then maybe negative is appropriate. If there's no repercussions for people continually begging or asking for it then it'll just become more commonplace.

As I said above, requiring merit to post in the regular boards almost certainly won't happen as theymos is against those sorts of restrictions. It seemed like even requiring one merit for a signature was pushing the limits of what he's willing to do. With that being said, I wouldn't be against additional new boards that can only be posted in once you have a certain amount of merit so that should at least up the quality of discussion allowed in those boards and I have already suggested that here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4854646.msg43759760#msg43759760

Bitcoin Discussion definitely needs some dedicated mods and I'm not sure why this hasn't happened yet.


It's not that difficult for shitposters to get a single merit to become Junior. They might not get it legitimately but I'm seeing a lot of shitposting juniors with one suspicious merit floating around. They can also just purchase the Copper Membership for $15-$20 or whatever it is. I still think we should remove Junior's signatures and require ten merit before you can get one. This makes it ten times harder or costlier for them to abuse.

Yeah, never seen it that bad. Don't know why they bother with American football games. Nobody cares about it over here. With that being said, there were apparently 85,870 people there and Wembley's capacity is 90,000. Maybe people just go because of the novelty of it. I guess it's probably the NFL just trying to promote the sport and garner some interest in it so they can up the fees for the rights to show games over here. I read somewhere that they even lose money putting games on over here and US fans don't like it because the games are always early in the morning.


Well they gotta start recouping their money for it  . It's costing them around $1 billion. Not sure how they'll ever earn that money back, especially with how much they spend on players then paying their wages (though no expenditure on new players last season - maybe they've got no money to buy any haha). I think the outside is all done and it's just some things inside like the pitch they're having trouble with. It looks pretty high tech. Apparently the pitch can slide away and there's another one ready to go. The other one is a synthetic grass surface which will be used for future NFL games apparently. At least they won't fuck up the football pitch now.

I'd personally rather err on the side of caution than think most people are angels who won't scam you given the chance, but scammers will be disproportional on here compared to real life because this is a board about magical internet money that you can't get back once you send it so it's the perfect money for scammers and that's why they flock here. Once they've scammed you that's it in 99% of cases. Money gone and you'll never see it again. If you can build up a bit of trust and rep and go for the long con then it's much easier to run off with a big amount at some point. I still wouldn't trust someone who comes up to me on the street and asks to borrow money though or someone I've known for year or so offers to escrow a large cash deal for me. Adding the layer of anonymity with the internet just makes things easier to go sketchy without repercussions.


Big Dicks is a troll; just ignore him. $100k is a lot of money to anyone unless you're a billionaire. $100k is a worth a lot more if you're not from the West too.

lolwut? Not sure why they're firing people because they should be hiring if anything, especially in their Customer Service department. I even applied for a position that was advertised on their site under the 'careers' department but didn't hear anything back (which isn't surprising). I use Coinbase regularly as I like how swift it is to sell coins, but getting set up and my bank verified took ages and I didn't get any replies from their support for many months. They didn't reply at all to my first few messages and my money was stuck there because I couldn't withdraw even though I'd verified my account but their auto-approval system just didn't work and customer support wouldn't reply.

They're still looking for plenty of positions it seems: https://www.coinbase.com/careers

Sometimes people's goal is just to make money in any which way they can. I think his ponzi past it's relevant because there's usually a certain type of people who get involved with them - get rich schemers who don't really care how or why they get their money as long as it enriches them. Of course, many of them probably know what they're getting into and accept the risks, but if you're ok with making money from ponzis where you know someone is going to end up out of pocket it's not a big step to taking money that doesn't belong to you when you get the chance, especially when it's a huge amount and running off with it would likely have no repercussions legally. As with mdayonliner we will never know whether he would have or not, but the risk for me is too big to ignore unluckily for him. I never really trust anyone who offers to hold onto other's money when they're not qualified to and more often than not it does go sour when they do and that's why this is such a big issue that makes me intrinsically distrust people when they do it.

Nobody is going to do this and you've already stated why. Accounts that are known to have traded hands will almost certainly be tagged and that's why the deals are done behind closed doors and this isn't something theymos could or will enforce anyway. Accounts will always be sold here whether we ban them or not, but the best we can do is look at ways at curbing the behaviour and I think letting users purchase more donator ranks like Silver and Gold with the benefits of higher ranks is the way to go. It would pretty much kill account sales because most people aren't going to take the risk of being scammed and all they want the accounts for in the first place is for a larger signature anyway.


As I said before, it would just be better to amend the way people are banned and state the reason then 99% of people probably won't bother asking why because they'll already know. We'll still get the occasional protester asking for leniency but there's nothing we can do about that.

Had 4-0 so was annoyed at that Cardiff consolation goal. I see only one user got that score right. Good pick.


Had 2-1 to Arsenal as well then Palace went and equalised late on. So close on quite a few games this week but got minimal points.

Spurs/City will probably be very close tonight but I think City will grab the win. The pitch is apparently in a pretty bad state as expected after the NFL game, so that might effect play: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/10/29/wembley-pitch-left-dire-state-tottenham-vs-manchester-city/

I'll be watching it anyway.

Most people will just evade their bans. There's absolutely no checks from the admins whatsoever, even when we find 100 accounts and ban them all manually they could be evading on 200 more for all we know. You could even just create another one from the very same IP, pay the fee (if there is one) and you're good to go again. You'll only ever be punished for ban evading if you slip up and publicly link the accounts somehow and then you'll likely get red-tagged by the community, but any other accounts they may have that we don't know about are still free to roam around. And the only people who know what they're banned for are temp banned users as the reason is always given. 99% of permabanned users have no reason stated on their ban hence why they're confused and ask here.

I think this is a good idea and I've suggested something similar before, but with warnings for people not to post threads in the wrong subs. For instance a warning like Posts about the discussion of Bitcoin's value do not belong here but in Speculation in Bitcoin Discussion, and in Press: This board is for news about Bitcoin only - Do not post alt coin articles in here etc. Would help cut down on a lot of needless time wasted from staff having to move threads that shouldn't be posted there in the first place.


I really don't think this is something theymos would go for as he doesn't want to limit people's ability to post here which this does. All it would do is put off genuine users whilst the people who came here to abuse the forum would just grin and bear it.

Or how about the helicopter just malfunctioned and crashed? What's suspicious about it? Helicopter crashes aren't uncommon. If you want to kill someone there are easier ways than to somehow sabotage a helicopter and go undetected. There'll be a thorough investigation into what happened anyway to determine why it happened and what caused it. Why do people always dream up conspiracies for everything especially when the most logical explanation is often the reality of the situation?


Had no bets on it but had 2-1 to Arsenal on the predictor so annoyed at that late Palace goal.


I could see a draw but I'm still backing City today.

Well I think all alt accounts such have 'etc' in theirs. Jetetc. or Jet Etc  . I don't think theymos would ever implement guidelines on naming rules and people should be able to name them whatever they want. hilarious2, hilarious_away, or whatever (I tied registering hilariousandcrow once but it wouldn't let me ). Also wanted just 'hilarious' but that was taken so had to go with 'hilarious*', but remember, not everyone wants their accounts publicly known. Maybe if you ask theymos he would change your name for you as they do sometimes change them in some circumstances but it's probably not a big issue.

Theymos probably won't change his mind on the issue, but he usually lets the community decide on what is and what isn't trustworthy behaviour and people are free to leave feedback for whatever they think is scammy behaviour. I think the official reasoning why we allow it is that we can't stop it or enforce it efficiently therefore it's allowed. I think in the past theymos has said he doesn't mind or thinks it's okay if people can make money off their old account or something and I've gone through a few opinions on account sales. When I first came here I was against them and was very surprised that they were allowed. Then I kind of warmed to it and thought that it wasn't that bad of an idea or big of a deal and was just another way people could make money here. But then over the years things got exponentially worse with sig spam and the account selling market became more shady and spammy. Accounts became big business and people were farming them in the worst possible ways by shitposting and botting and then of course because accounts had great value hackings became rife. Now I just think they cause more hassle than they're worth and contribute to the degradation of the forum and the majority of people selling them are just scammers who don't even have accounts for sale in the first place. The rest are usually either just spammers or hackers. With the merit system it's going to be very very hard to farm high ranked accounts now but I think lower ranked like Junior and Member will still be done as it's not that hard to get 1/10 merit respectively.  Personally, I think if we're to continue to allow them then we should also just add more donator ranks like Silver and Gold Member as that would essentially kill the account market in the process as people would much rather buy the benefits of the ranks from the forum rather than some shady black market where nine times out of ten they're just going to be scammed.


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Oh, and this farmer above has currently reactivated and further proof that they're the same is they started waking up at the same time after a period of absence:

You sure about that? Wasn't that the reporter badges? Pretty sure he said by the end of the year for the recovery system.


The rules can be amended. Besides, they're 'unofficial' and I don't think anyone is trying to prohibit users protesting or appealing completely, but rather to limit the number that are needlessly doing it and also clogging up Meta in the process. If the way bans are issued changes and the reason is stated then users won't need to create a new account to ask why they're banned as they'll know. Some will still inevitably protest but people are proposing it should just be in a separate 'ban issues' subboard.

No games I'm interested in today in the Premier League. Will be watching the El Classico though.


Well it's at Wembley and there's a NFL game on today which may fuck up the pitch as some people are worried about. I don't think Spurs will win this personally given their recent performance. I'd give them a shot at a draw at best but I think City will win comfortably. 


I wouldn't put money on the Man U/Everton game but I can see over 2.5 in the Palace/Arsenal game and same for the Burnley/Arsenal match. I think there's more chance of lot's of goals in that game than Man U/Everton to be honest.

Sometimes people just want to be trusted so they can make more money as quickly as possible here (nothing inherently wrong with that),  and sometimes people want to be trusted just so they can abuse that trust at some point and run off with as much money as possible. I'm really on the fence about mdayonliner. He could just be one of those naive guys who jumps into the deep end head first and wants to just make a bit of cash as fast as he can and however he can, or he could be one of those guys who would have just run off as soon as they earned enough trust to be trusted with a large amount of money. You could also start out with the greatest of intentions, but once someone entrusts you with a lot of cash it can make even a good man turn bad and we've seen a few previously very trusted people abuse their 'trusted' position here in the past once they got their hands on an amount they liked. Given mdayonliner ponzi past and a few other things it makes me trust him a lot less, but again, he could just be naively wanting to earn as much as he can, but it's the people who who will often make money whichever desperate way they can that you often have to be most weary of.


Sometimes it's not done to frame someone per se, but it's just bots or bounty spammers trying to abuse other user's publicly posted details. Most of these ICO crap campaigns are lax with their checking and many probably don't even do any sort of verification so it's easy for someone else to use some other users detail and post it as their own. Seen it happen numerous times and I've even seen someone using my name on spreadsheets to try claim bounties with their own address etc.

But I don't think a lot of them do. Most of them probably didn't think they were doing anything wrong, because why would they even ask in the first place? Most people are probably completely oblivious to the rules, and seem to think that as long as they make a post or change a few words it's ok. If they knew the rules here they wouldn't bother asking if they can be unbanned either since they'd know it's not going to happen for such an infraction.


But why not actually tackle the problem at the source of the issue? That's just sweeping the dirt under the rug or into a different room. The crap is still going to be there just out of sight. Chnage the ban message or give them the details of why they were banned and that should stop most people from even asking about their ban. Of course some will still protest but the numbers of them will be greatly reduced.


Well, those were cases of mistaken instances. One was even a well orchestrated set-up, but there's usually no exceptions for anyone who genuinely does copy other's content (though cyrus did unban one user onetime).