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2261  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - Drake, UFC, Everton, Alfa Romeo F1 Team on: August 07, 2023, 08:59:37 PM
GUys, please, i am a bit confused (Did i just say a bit?), well, i am seriously confused with what i am seeing in the bet ticket below..



I put a bet on Inter Miami CF to win the match, and from the score I am seeing on stake, Inter Miami CF won, but Stake still registered the ticket as a loss ,
I tried checking the score of this game on google since i wasn't opportuned to watch the match, and below is the score shown on google..

I dont understand what exactly is going on here, why are the scores different, and why did stake register my bet ticket as a loss when from their score, it shows my candidate won? someone with better understanding should please explain ..

Thank you.

Your bet on 1x2 market for Inter Miami win while the final score is 4-4 of course your bet lose the 1x2 market is only for normal match 90 minutes
Maybe this is a tournament match so if the final score is draw 4-4 then it will go to penalty shootouts as you can see the score on penalties was 3-5 and this is not included in your bet because it is outside of 90 minutes.

I suggest you bet on both teams to score in an MLS match most of the matches there ended with both teams scoring goals, just a suggestion  Tongue

Another advise would be to learn some sports betting terminology. This is such an obvious mistake and 99% of sports bettors know what 1x2 means.
I made this mistake as well, when I did my first or 2nd online bet ever.  Grin

Well, at least this won't happen to you again. We all pay the price to learn something new.

Btw, football is always team A / draw / team B , unless it's stated otherwise. They also offer bets like who to advance for example, this bet you would have won. They also have "draw no bet" , then you would have gotten a refund.


This is normal when you do a direct bet. Direct bet is usually full time (FT) and after that winning or loss is determined based on if you bet direct home win (1), away win (2) or draw (x). So @ Fivestar4everMVP, you had a 90 minutes bet expiration and not extending to penalties or lifting of trophy or tournament cup etc. That is what has happened.

For example if you had a draw bet (x) and the match at FT ends at 4/4 then you will win the bet irrespective of who won at extra time or penalties. When match extends into penalty, it is a different cattle of fish however, you can also bet such option because they are all in the varieties of option but you need to as well understand them. If you need some of the meanings of those options, I think there is no information that google can't provide.
2262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Appropriate percentage of income for gambling on: August 07, 2023, 07:31:38 PM

I am not into gambling anymore. But I can say that I can use 10-20% of my weekly income on gambling.

Based on your income in a week, if you are using this amount mentioned to gamble I think it is on the high except if you are making appropriate profit from it to cover your losses because most gamblers make more losses than profit and to lose 20% weekly from your earnings is surely high. A gambler who wins often wins has no issue with how much invested in gambling but a perpetual loser has to watch on how much wasted in betting. There are people who have stopped gambling because of frequent losses. Yes, if it is not working for you it is better to quit like you said you did.
2263  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Life of a Crypto man on: August 07, 2023, 06:41:03 PM
but in crypto you are the boss of your own, all you just need is a smart phone or a laptop to seat at your comfort zone and be making money without being noticed by anyone, though I no crypto work is not easy also but can never be compare with some physical job.


You fit talk about being your own boss, doing your own thing without another involvement but I hope that one you dey refer to crypto investment or trading but e no just sweet as you talk am. People dey lose shege from trading the crypto, so e no just balance with life. No where easy, if na about cryptocurrency investment generally, losses plenty pass gain except you dey talk on to wetin dey sup here but outside day one, bro forget, e no sweet like that.

Also through crypto awareness most people were able to navigate other ways of working online to earn a living.


Yes but no be only crypto, na the gains wey dey for smart phone and getting connected online. Na there e start, being online, you meet crypto, deriv, fx, freelancing etc and affiliate marketing if them no scam you  Grin
2264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: August 07, 2023, 06:22:45 PM
as long as a person is exposed to gambling, the possibility of gambling addiction is always there.

I think one can be exposed to gambling without being an addict. If you are exposed to something it means that you are knowledgeable about that thing not necessarily that you are involved in the activity. By the way, you can play from time to time and you are exposed to it but not an addict to it. There are people who have also played gambling in the past and have stopped, they are exposed to it because they know all that happens in it but have taken the decision to stope, so they also are not addict.
2265  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: August 07, 2023, 04:12:21 PM

It's also possible for the losing gambler to become addicted because there are types of gamblers that won't stop until they get back the money they've lost. But I agree that it's more likely to start when you're in a winning session because you sometimes get a bunch of easy wins and gamblers would try to test the limits of their luck by doubling down on their bets or even going all in.

I would rather run away after winning than continuing after winning  Grin I believe this is the wish of many gamblers who are in a losing spray lol. I have known gamblers speaking like this from their losses that they want to recover some portion of losses. Except a gambler is a chronic addict and the type that wants to have gambling as a source of income, otherwise it is better to exit when the ovation is loudest and that could be when you hit that big jackpot.
2266  Economy / Economics / Re: [DISCUSSION] Bitcoin, Fiat, Inflation, Default on: August 07, 2023, 03:03:11 PM

5. Greece
Greece as a country of philosophers and a country that created a democratic system but failed to manage its own country. Greece defaulted on a debt of 337 billion EURO

Oh... This reminds me of the Athenian democracy where families, villages, communities and the entire people were consulted to take policy decisions and that is the essense of democracy but what has gone wrong in all countries because every one country had a little beginning where they did things in one fold and got happy with policies. Is the kind of democracy we see today, that which was practiced in time past, where inflation was little or known, when currencies were valuable to purchase as adequate products as needed. What has really gone wrong

Do you think, if bitcoins were used as world currency, there would be no inflation and no defaults? I need your analysis, let's discuss


Bitcoin used as world currency will not guarantee no inflation. This is because IMO, miners may increase fees overtime since fiat is out. I think if miners fee begin to increase then that can reduce the value of your bitcoin, despite bitcoin being deflationary but where fiat is totally taken out, the forces of demand and supply may start to occur. I can imagine miners or exchange increasing transaction fee between $30 to $150 for transfer of $1,000 worth of bitcoin.
2267  Economy / Gambling / Re: Why don't land-based casinos have an online version? on: August 07, 2023, 01:18:49 PM

Just recently we have seen unfortunate cases where online casinos have scammed users and disappeared with their deposits, often due to unknown teams and creators behind these platforms

It is understandable that both offline and online casino are not serving same purpose, most play online because of the privacy.

I understand this point probably because of the incidence of scam where online casino just disappear without trace, at least if they had offline casino then they wouldn't disappear like that into tin air without any trace. I think to play in more reputable casino is more trusted than new ones, casinos like stake have been there, tasted and trusted with personalities that identify with them.
2268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: August 07, 2023, 11:36:22 AM

There's such a thing as beginner's luck but its hard when it happens in gambling because your confidence will grow that you will think that you can make money from gambling, when in reality you cannot.

I have noticed this myself sometimes when I play certain type of game for the first time, I win but after that it doesn't really happen like that subsequently. Some people have argued that it is like a welcome that casino do to attract you into playing more but I doubt that is the case. I believe it is just a coincidence that it happened and not like a manipulation. But really it is attractive to play more when your first game appears to be a win it gives you more courage to try another bet.
2269  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: August 07, 2023, 10:12:02 AM

But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?


Gambling addiction is not only when you have won bet. I think if you have won, what happens is that you have more money at that time to play and you want to increase your staking power but the real addiction should be the reverse. If you have not won a game, you are most likely going to keep playing because you want to taste it and retrieve all your lost money, so if you keep losing then you are playing more, that leads to addiction. Someone who wins a game may run away than someone who has not won.
2270  Local / Off-topic (Naija) / Re: Which example Dem dey set for our next generation? on: August 06, 2023, 09:25:13 PM
Me I go just go straight go blame government because na Dem spoil everything. Na them make people wey get bad agenda for mind before or people wey bad before turn worse. How person go finish school and nowhere to start from. Make Dem scrap NYSC and gather the money for the one year and give graduate wey finish school at least half of the graduate fit utilize the money and become entrepreneur. Instead of paying it month end and at the end it will waste for transportation. Government self dey do Yahoo yahoo because dem dey promise and fail. I no say yahoo no good but the government corruption too much. Money no dey reach where e suppose reach and things get worse, vices plenty wey guys dey do make dem survive, e no easy.
2271  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Terrorism in Africa on: August 06, 2023, 08:54:57 PM

What typically occurs is that the opposition, rather than cooperating with the winning party to advance the interests of the nation after the politicians who employed the thugs win their elections and likely desert them, will be using those thugs to attack that administration through acts of terrorism, banditry, and kidnapping, which is wrong.


If we are expecting opposition political party to support the party who was able to rig themselves into government is going to be a waste of time. As far as politics is concern, election is win and win all. I don't think collaboration government work or coalition, it doesn't really work in governance because the other party has a different idea or idealogy they were coming with and so such fusion may further take the country back. Political party by primary understanding is formed to win election and form a government and that happens at agreed duration of tenure.
2272  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed can cause a lost bet, (true or false) on: August 06, 2023, 08:10:17 PM

What I want to say is that greed can sometimes be your friend because having greed is somewhat the same as having a gut but again, don't let it drive you as that will really put you in a situation that you never wanted. No need to eliminate it as greed is just like luck, you never know when will it hit you.

I accept that, greed can turn into a blessing. Sometimes we are persistent with what we believe in like if you try and keep trying because you see that light is at the end and at the end it may turn into good. Sometimes some gamblers are persistent in coming back to try after losing. I have witnessed much of this when a gambler losses in visual game and after losing much they still try the last game which turned out to be the remedy that brought them back to regain all the money lost earlier.
2273  Local / Politics and society (Naija) / Re: Ur thought 4 dis economic situation. on: August 06, 2023, 06:06:55 PM
Abeg make we no call d economy situation on ground inflation.
Wetin me I know na hardship


This place na im I want talk about and leave all those funny questions wey you dey ask. The thing dey funny, make dem reset the country afresh  Grin

Anyway, my brother the country hard no be inflation. This one don pass inflation. The thing don dey unbearable but the challenge be say no way forward as I dey see the present administration. In fact NLC self no help matter, how you go begin strike one day when you don wait for government tire and the next day Dem say make you come make una talk again. The whole people wey dey involved for Nigerian governance na corrupt people. You remove subsidy wey average and poor people dey take still feel government, increase fees for schools,which one persin want talk.
2274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Importance of Gambling to the society on: August 06, 2023, 04:41:46 PM
I'm also agreeing with the op that gambling has helped and still helping the youths in the society. In my locality gambling has reduced crimes very well. Because government can provide jobs for the youth to engaged themselves in offices and other governmental works so those who can play bet use the opportunity to busy themselves in the casino halls and forget crime in the process and there sometimes they win and loss and argue among themselves in all days. If there is no gambling in the society, crime would have been legalized in the society by those guys Grin just because of the way crime would have been that is why I am saying this. As it is said, both the government and the youths are benefiting from gambling.

Opportunity to gamble will not be seen as the reason that crime will reduce. Employment is what I know that is advocated to push down the rate of crime and not gambling. In fact most times gambling environment is where bad boys meet to plan next move. Crime rate is increasing generally because government has not provided enabling environment for self employment and employment opportunities. Those who gamble may not gamble if they had alternative.
Gambling will not reduce even though there is employment for the youth, it might even increase the amount to stake but crime itself will slidely reduce. Government is the cause of crime and government loves crime. Why government is the cause of crime? Those who went to school and thinking that after schooling they secure good jobs to start life just like their white counterparts but irony slapped them in their thoughts on their faces they became street boys and girls struggling to survive. Enter places that ordinarily they would not enter, gambling to survive. And why government love crime? Government picks bad boys to become bodyguards from gambling places and sometimes use them in election dumped them after the election. And they would go back again so crime becomes a perpetual problem in the society. Government is not ready to eliminate crime in the society because they part of the crimes.

I agree that government created crime for the reason of not providing enabling environment for job creation  I also agree to your point that government love crime and they will not take it out. The point therefore is whether jobs are created or not, gamblers will still be there, gambling places is mostly hideout for gamblers and government will always look for the bad boys for their nefarious activities. That buttress my earlier point that availability of jobs is not the solution to crime rate. There are guns everywhere, social ills and illegality is on the increase.
2275  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you rather start/grow a business from scratch or buy an existing business? on: August 06, 2023, 03:40:04 PM

If you buy an existing business that's great too. Suppose you see other people's businesses going flat while you have a creative idea that you think will add potential for increased sales.

To buy over someone's falling business requires two things. One of it is that you need capital to refurbish the business because most likely it is lacking in management which is the reason for the sale. So you have to be ready to pump in money in a business that is failing if you are buying it. For example take twitter, to the best of my knowledge was not failing but Elon musk bought it, he turned it to his taste, employed new hands and all that requires money.

Another point is you need to be experienced in it or your money will help you employ the best heads who are experienced to rejuvenate the business back to the public. So if one does not have those two criteria, they may not be able to buy over failing business.
2276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: August 06, 2023, 01:22:23 PM

You don't have to play carefully, just enjoy the game without expecting to win and hope to beat the casino, because basically the casino or the dealer will always win and you can't just win the game at their casino, that's why you really have to enjoy playing the game. and just think of winning as a bonus, while losing, let's just say paying for a game that has been enjoyed. that's how to gamble with a healthy mindset

This is suppose to be the best way to gamble but unfortunately it doesn't happen that way because of the factor of money involved in it which touches down to our emotion. If the games are not involved with money which makes it a bet then the atmosphere will be different from what it is called. The fun aspect of gambling is difficult to achieve when you are betting on something .
2277  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Importance of Gambling to the society on: August 06, 2023, 12:19:24 PM
I'm also agreeing with the op that gambling has helped and still helping the youths in the society. In my locality gambling has reduced crimes very well. Because government can provide jobs for the youth to engaged themselves in offices and other governmental works so those who can play bet use the opportunity to busy themselves in the casino halls and forget crime in the process and there sometimes they win and loss and argue among themselves in all days. If there is no gambling in the society, crime would have been legalized in the society by those guys Grin just because of the way crime would have been that is why I am saying this. As it is said, both the government and the youths are benefiting from gambling.

Opportunity to gamble will not be seen as the reason that crime will reduce. Employment is what I know that is advocated to push down the rate of crime and not gambling. In fact most times gambling environment is where bad boys meet to plan next move. Crime rate is increasing generally because government has not provided enabling environment for self employment and employment opportunities. Those who gamble may not gamble if they had alternative.
2278  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should we rely on prediction? on: August 05, 2023, 09:21:42 PM
well for me? i use prediction as one tools for my decisioning but that doesnt mean that everything in predicting will be on because there are also coming from my own research and sighting each projet.
though in bitcoin? yeah I completely trust and i need nothing to explore more.

We still have to protect ourselves from over risking our investment in bitcoin. There are people who borrow money to invest in bitcoin but within the time to repay the loan, bitcoin is yet to bull and that will put them under severe pressure. As  much we want to take risk of investment, we also need to take caution not to invest all we have and won't be able to take care of other needs. We need to balance out investment so that other aspect of our lives won't lack or become deficient.
2279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Importance of Gambling to the society on: August 05, 2023, 07:44:32 PM

Even if gambling commonly view as negative by commoner. Many didn't notice how big is the contribution of gambling to the society.


What is the benefits of gambling to your society?

Despite the negative aspect that contributions have been on gambling addiction, I see it as guide or suggestions to help each other on the forum regards to people over budgeting on it and having irresponsible ways of going on it. Most contributions have been on gambling responsibly.

However, I can't say vividly what the government where I domicile do with gambling proceed or tax collected but I know few people that have benefited alot from gambling. Apart from big wins like $15,000 from someone who used part of it to buy land, car, other youths do benefit from time to time even though part of the money is used to gamble when they don't manage it well.
2280  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Do You Of Think My Predictions On This Multi Bet Ticket ? on: August 05, 2023, 04:28:20 PM
Well going by your curiosity to exit or to stay on the game based on the cash out stake is offering to you that you said is slightly above your staking value, you need to know stake is not gifting you the money right.... That is the value of the 5 games correctly predicted for now from the 20 games, meaning the cash out can disappear if your next ongoing game is not turning right. So for me, you have to make the choice of staying or continuing, 15 more games is too much to put my fingers on to predict and if I knew the result myself, I would have taken the shot directly  Grin

To conclude my submission since you played to increase your bankroll and the cash out is still within your staking value, I could still take the risk to allow if some games will turn out good to increase the cash out. This is not a professional advise anyway   Grin
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