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2281  Other / Politics & Society / 9/11 derail: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: August 09, 2014, 11:44:40 PM
Human + Technology = Human Cyborgs / Bio-Technological hybrids with increased potential
Human + God-Spirit within = God-Humans with infinite potential

The cyborg is already here, we carry things with us, which are always on and through which we can reach every human on the planet and access all information produced in the history of mankind, in any language, it will be translated for us, and they have numerous physical world capabilities as well, and cost only $100...

Yes, for now technology is merged on the human body externally with gadgets - later on it will be implanted as it becomes convenient. However the gadgets today do not yet provide intelligence acceleration, in the sense of AI. They do provide "conveniences" though, with a major drawback: As the human mind "accepts" the conveniences offered, it admits its own inadequacy in performing the same tasks.

Two decades ago we would remember a whole list of phone numbers. We would be able to recall a big amount of information. Memorizing text or data was an internal task. Not to mention doing basic arithmetic with our minds. As we progress, these "abilities" are outsourced and the mental capacities associated to them are weakened as a result.

The major problem of techno-human hybridization or transhumanism is that it leads to centralized control of the human species due to the interconnectedness of human brains, plus we will have a two-tier transhuman race, in which those with the best technology (=the Elite who control the tech) will be advantaged over the rest or give the rest a set of tech that can be manipulated with the right "keys".

Another problem is that the risk is too big in terms of an EMP-wave civilization collapse. A generation raised with implants will lose all the natural mental capacities that are now "standard". An EMP from a solar blast can render the transhuman species concept as DOA in terms of survival capacity in adverse circumstances.

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The God-man is also manifested in an increasing way: remember in the Revelation, the Spirit of God is called Seven Spirits, because it has been magnified sevenfold for the consummation of the age (which is certainly in need of consummation in the next ~20 years, because the serpent has grown to be the Great Dragon, called the Devil and Satan, and is the deceiver of all mankind quite literally these days).

Yes it is. Small numbers at first but gradually rising. The whole population will attain God-man capability in the next ~50-55 years, rendering bio/machine integration / transhumanism obsolete.
2282  Other / Politics & Society / 9/11 derail: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: August 09, 2014, 08:27:36 PM
Thank you for your post, AlexGR. There is unusual depth to your thinking. I wish I were as optimistic as you seem about human progress. One perfect example of out-of-the-box thinking is early adoption of Bitcoin, despite naysaying and negative propaganda by the powers that be and the herd. I'd expect that those of us intrepid enough to say the emperor has no clothes to fiat currency are much more likely to have resisted to propaganda and "cognitive infiltration" squads that enforce conformity on other matters crucial to the current regime's survival.

Still, it does fall into the pattern of what I described earlier regarding boldness and autonomous thinking because there is a certain alignment of people with anti-fiat investments, like precious metals for example. The anti-fiat people created a new "box" for group-think in the form of precious metals investments and it requires additional perceptual fluidity to step out of that box for a while to even investigate bitcoin and cryptocurrencies - not necessarily as a gold/silver killer, but as a supplementary investment or a hedge to their paper manipulation. After all, the marketcap of the cryptomarket is too small to drain even 0.1% of the marketcap of PMs.

Paradoxically, the above step was not so necessary for those who went from fiat -> bitcoin directly as an opportunity to make more fiat - because these people were interested in fiat and only saw bitcoin as the intermediate step that could bring them more fiat. So a lot of fiat people are exhibiting a better fluidity towards Bitcoin compared to anti-fiat people who are heavily invested into PMs and refuse to diversify.

It's not enough to make a new (or several) worldview(s) that challenges the old worldview. It requires perceptual fluidity and honest self-examination of one's cognitive biases. When an old belief or worldview, mainstream or alternative, proves to be a hindrance, it needs to be modified ASAP.
2283  Other / Off-topic / Re: What's your opinion about TA and 9/11 on: August 09, 2014, 06:15:20 PM
There is a discussion in Risto's thread about 9/11. Threre is also a discussion about valitidy of TA, in other thread.  So it is interesting to see, if there any corellation between belief in TA and belief in "USA did 9/11".  Wink

Yeah... there's also a discussion in that thread about how an Ebola pandemic might take Bitcoin price to da moon.

Yeah, I said that. If cash is banned as virus-spread-prevention-measure, digital currencies will, by necessity, increase in use.
2284  Other / Politics & Society / 9/11 derail: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: August 09, 2014, 06:04:10 PM
The truth is about to hit you hard. With one minute google search you will find enough to read to permanently change your thinking about this subject. The condition is, of course, that you have the cognitive ability to understand what you read, and some background in science to verify the hard evidence. But most of people have those. The problem is their brainwash. (Somebody better versed in this area can explain, I lack the correct words.)

It's more about "conditioning".

All humans desire to be loved. Thus, from an early age, they formulate social strategies to receive love. One of the most common strategies is to be accepted by others, thus aligning with the group and the perception of the group: Let's call it "mainstream worldview".

Those who subconsciously believe that they will be rejected by going against the accepted beliefs of the group, depriving them of acceptance (which is subconsciously equated with love) will rather stay in line with the accepted beliefs / mainstream worldview and be the valiant defenders of this worldview, so that they can show their "worthiness" to the other members of the group, and increase their acceptability while at the same time trying to paint the "contrast" of non-acceptability in their "enemies" who are labeled "nuts", "idiots", "irrational" etc. It follows that "less acceptance for them = more acceptance for me" => more love for me.

It is interesting how a motive like wanting to be loved can produce such behaviors. But then again, that's the very pattern that parents use on their kids so that kids will behave according to parents expectations... "be good or else I won't  accept you / love you so much".

There are 4 stages of human evolution. They are strength, intellect, perception (this is what we are discussing right now - where one can be smart but also blind to the truth due to cognitive bias / investment in the reality framework that he believes in / perceived cost in disinvestment - like ridicule or lack of love and acceptance) and, a few decades down the road, consciousness.

1. The stage of physical strength

Kind of self-evident: The strong prevail. The weak die or are enslaved and prevented from procreation.

2. The stage of intellect

This is where humanity is in, right now - although it is migrating to stage 3 (perception). Women naturally desire strong and intelligent men to mate with. Some will argue that women want men with money, but this, in itself, is nearly impossible if one isn't intelligent. Thus the money-desire, or things like the desirable property for “humor” are simply camouflaged desires for intelligence.

3. The stage of perception

This is the stage where one's intelligence is allowed to expand by decoupling the associated cognitive biases – thus producing new thoughts that allow the individual to survive when the herd is heading over a cliff.

A human is naturally inclined to align with the group / society, in all ways, including the way he thinks, in order to become more socially acceptable and thus increase his chances of survival and getting love. However, the group-think effect is what undermines the ability of the individual to perceive things that the group chose to overlook. This is a serious handicap that the individual must overcome.

Imagine, for example, the possibility that things like RF frequencies, Genetically Modified food, substances contained in vaccines, etc etc are not so “appropriate” for humans. The establishment and the media create a pattern where people are demonized for going against “progress”. Society, at large, adopts the media claims. In this scenario, an individual speaking against RF frequencies, GM foods or vaccines could be seen as a “weirdo” by others.

By the time the effect of such things is understood, in terms of human biology, a whole sort of biological and reproductive problems (eg sperm count near zero) might have appeared for those engaged in group-think. Thus their ability to procreate and carry their genes forward will have severely been diminished. Those who will be better positioned, in this sense, will be those who are able to perceive the problems and solutions that society overlooks.

A small note regarding the examples given: While things like RF frequencies, GMOs, vaccines etc are issues that have the public opinion debating with some strong support and opposition, there are other issues which are more widely accepted in terms of group-think and only a handful of people are actually perceiving against the effect of group-think.


4. The stage of consciousness

Computer intelligence has so far been "dumb" and conditional through IF-THEN-ELSE programmed routines. A programmer inserts a number of conditions and responses that a program then executes. For example, IF temperature >25C THEN turn on the aircondition. So our houses are "smart" because they can auto-regulate the temperature. But in reality, they are simply running a "dumb" program.

There is another kind of computer intelligence however that is not conditional. Rather, it is based on a simulation of brain neurons and how they fire. These computer programs are called "neural networks" and, as they evolve, they will be able to do all tasks that human can, faster, and better.

When that happens, and "castles" like creativity fall to Artificial Intelligence, humans will have to re-evaluate their identity. "If the AI program can do all that I do, better, and faster, then what am I missing? What is my qualitative advantage over an AI program?"

In this sense, Artificial Intelligence has the potential to act catalytically in redefining who we are.

Some will simply accept their inferiority and try to merge with technological AI through implanted chips, computers, nanobots etc.

Others will indeed find the differentiating factor that separates them from an AI program. This differentiating factor is the God-spirit within us that has unlimited potential and can be merged to the human biology to upgrade it to a whole different level.

Thus, as Ape + Superior Mind created Humans as a new specie

...2 new species will emerge from Humans:

Human + Technology = Human Cyborgs / Bio-Technological hybrids with increased potential
Human + God-Spirit within = God-Humans with infinite potential

This is where we are heading...

In the meantime, we are migrating towards the stage of perception (stage 3). The Internet has allowed the mainstream worldview to fragment into large pieces of varying world-views. In the 80s or 90s it would be far more difficult for someone to speak out in favor of an alternative worldview, due to the fact that the perception of isolation was stronger - and thus the calculated risk of being penalized by the "group" was higher. But when people discovered they are not alone in thinking "the impossible", they got bolder. Thing is, those who required the Internet to become bolder in what to think and express, are still, in a way, confined to the same problematic mentality that those invested in the mainstream worldview are. They are not really autonomous thinkers - they are just slightly more "aggressive" in how far they are willing to go.

The truth can only be uncovered by one when he is really an autonomous thinker. When he's given himself permission to think the unthinkable, no matter the consequences or what the existing beliefs are in the various subgroups / various worldviews of groups. This will be of essence in the mid-term future. The reason is that the various subgroups or various worldviews can be "gamed" by the establishment through certain mechanisms, that are not so dissimilar from the mechanisms that are used to design the mainstream worldview.
2285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 08, 2014, 05:59:17 PM
If you want individual card amps/watts or temps, let me know.

What's the power ratio these days? It used to be 50% compared to scrypt... I guess it has gone up due to the optimizations, but how higher?
2286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 08, 2014, 04:27:33 PM
What's the fastest amd and nvidia miners right now and where are their links? If they are closed source also provide the alternative, slower, open source.

I want to update the wiki because it's kind of obsolete in this department.

Please provide some indicative numbers for cards like 280s / 290s, 750/780 Tis.
2287  Other / Politics & Society / 9/11 derail: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: August 08, 2014, 04:21:19 PM
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Ebola is spread only through the exchange of bodily fluids.  Therefore it doesn't spread as easily as the flu which you can catch through airborne water droplets when somebody coughs.  Getting rid of paper currency doesn't do anything.  Remember not to touch your eyes as this is the only part of your body that exposes the inside of your body and therefore is the primary gateway for all types of nasties.

But sweaty hands do touch coins and paper notes - even if that sweat is imperceptible. Also people sneeze or exhale small droplets with their exhalation, so things tend to get airborne*.

There are two assumptions right now:

1. It is not airborne
2. It is not transmitted in the incubation period

...neither assumption is very strong.

* It could also be made airborne intentionally: http://rt.com/news/178992-ebola-biological-weapon-terrorists

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The original author was talking 30-60% population reduction, which I can't see happening without subsequent mass fear, hiding, suspicion, riots, revolts, pillaging and the like.

The factors you mention are "extra". Mortality rate through the virus alone is 60%.

We'll see how this story develops and whether it affects cash being banned at some stage during the next months / years. If this happens, it also has the potential to create a massive boom in the anon-currencies, as they are better equipped to replace cash than Bitcoin due to their privacy.
2288  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: August 08, 2014, 02:34:33 PM
Or a sociopathically delusional one.
In case of a global Ebola outbreak, who gives a fuck about our little money experiment?

History shows that civilization doesn't stop due to global anomalies, wars, disease, financial metldowns etc. Neither will Bitcoin - which is far more than our "little money experiment". Show will go on - as always. The only question is whether we'll be part of the show or not...

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Sound money will be weapons, ammo, canned food and medicines. The odds for survival in such a situation are more in favour of the most cruel and fittest men than in favour a bunch of bitcoin nerds like you and me, so pray your gods we will never have to witness such a catastrophic event in our lifetime.

Guns and canned food won't really save one from a pandemic virus. Neither will medicine (for other stuff).

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True and in any catastrophic event , common things required for sustaining life will be much valuable than any crypto.

And how will you buy them, if government has nullified -by law- the value of paper currency in favor of electronic currencies, as to "prevent people from spreading the virus"?

Either gold/silver, or cryptos. Or plain' old bartering of one thing with another. We'll see how it goes, if it ever materializes as a global eventuality. Let's hope that it doesn't though.
2289  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: August 08, 2014, 11:08:02 AM
I was thinking that Ebola as a global pandemic = very bullish for BTC.

The Elite have always wanted to monitor money flows and Ebola, if it reaches worldwide scale, will give them the necessary excuse to ban cash (as one of an extensive list of "measures" to prevent virus spread).

So once cash is 100% digital, what is left to conduct transactions between individuals that do not want to use or do not have government money?

Bitcoins / cryptos (and gold/silver for physical transactions).

If we also contemplate consequences of a 30-60% population reduction (and how that affects BTC owners as well - removing BTCs from circulation for ever), BTC can explode.
2290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 07, 2014, 06:42:26 PM
In my opinion, RC4 is going to be a game changer if it launches without any issues.

I think it's highly unlikely it won't have any issues and be 100% ready. After all it's not called "final". It'll probably need tens of bugfixes post-release. The rate of bug-squashing is significant, which means that mainnet functionality will surely uncover more bugs that weren't discovered in test-net scenarios. But unlike network forking issues with MN payments, these bugs do not carry the same weight. Forking is a game-stopper. Darksend bugs aren't. You patch them and move on.
2291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 06, 2014, 03:58:06 PM
hello, has there been any word from kristov atlas yet? Hoping to hear something soon if not. thanks

IIRC from a prior youtube video, at this stage he is reporting directly to Evan about code issues.
2292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 03, 2014, 10:48:16 PM
Well we are waiting for it on the mainnet. I guess we should expect it in a week or two? They have said early August.
We shall see an insane spike on interest here. If it were up to me I'd make a small portion (but important one) closed source, to prevent copies.  Wink

Thankfully it isn't up to you.  Cheesy
So what you're saying it is better if we have hundreds of copies of DRK?
Smart one.

Why not? Its an open sourced world out there... look at all the shitcoins in existence. And then look a t Doge... Anything can happen.
But like thelonecrouton said and very well... I'd like to see how they'd clone thousands of Masternodes in the process.

EDIT: lool, the man himself beat me to it...  Wink

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the depressed initial price of a new anon shitcoin make it easy to set up thousands of masternodes shortly after (or even before) launching?

Tao

It would. The game theory component of DarkSend is actually better suited for large-marketcap coins than new clone coins which can be bought off for peanuts.

The higher the marketcap of the coin, the better the disincentive to acquire a large number of nodes => better anon.
2293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 03, 2014, 09:35:13 PM
He chose DRK because in a few weeks his coins will be worth 2x more and untraceable Smiley

More likely dark was used to wash the coins anonymous. I guess that's the dark side of anon coins.. uh.

With RC4 going live soon, and the ability to launder multi-thousand DRK amounts, fungibility of these coins will not be an issue (like it would be with stolen BTCs). So yeah, DRK was a good choice by the hacker...
2294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 02, 2014, 12:34:26 PM
NSA-proofing is the last layer so that you can also be safe vs the US government surveillance.

Alex, how does one NSA proof a network?

That's the mbillion dollar question.
2295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 02, 2014, 12:15:12 PM
Darkcoin is nothing to do with Tor.

Tor is an NSA funded honeypot, last year they supplied >60% of the Tor Project funding. This is openly and publically verifiable. Common sense suggests that they also run most of the Tor exit nodes. Tor is also slow, unreliable, and a pain in the arse to use.

Darkcoin/DS+/DarkTransit will be much faster, much easier to use, and not owned by the spooks.

Subversive technologies are useful to the US Intelligence for subverting foreign governments or conducting operations in other countries. For example, chinese, iranians, etc using TOR to surf foreign websites, bypassing government control. So the US has an interest in funding such tech.

Almost no government (except the USA) has NSA-level capabilities to break / honeypot / guesstimate with high probabilities systems like TOR, anonymous cryptos etc... So they are quite useful in the rest of the planet.

NSA-proofing is the last layer so that you can also be safe vs the US government surveillance.
2296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 31, 2014, 05:06:25 PM
That was interesting... Grin
2297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 31, 2014, 11:53:44 AM

I still don't get why people think that using a pretty popular OS (linux) for mining is some how instamining? You can get linux for free and set it up in under an hour lol

There is limited support for Linux mining, i experienced this first hand when trying to set up my rigs to mine in Ubuntu. Got lots of weird errors and was unable to get any support for them. With Windows the learning curve is much less.

Most cpu miners are using linux and those who chase new coin launches for CPU coins are usually on Xeon multi-core clusters.
2298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 29, 2014, 09:16:05 PM
So yes, neither Darkcoin, Cloak, Monero, or any of the other so called anonymous coins will ever gain mainstream adoption.  The future for cryptocurrency transactions is Bitcoin.  The coin that overtakes Bitcoin will be a coin that is faster, smaller, so easy to use any idiot will be able to, etc...  It won't be an anonymous coin.  

Your line of thought is very limited in scope. Nobody expects DRK to replace bitcoin in terms of volume of transactions.

Let bitcoin have 90-95% of all transactions with a 10bn marketcap crypto market and with just 5-10% of transactions through anonymous coins, you'll have 500mn - 1bn marketcap for them. It's a niche market, covering a different type of need.

Yes, we get it. You don't want anonymity. Some want it. Some (=billions of people in oppressive countries) will NEED it to bypass their country regulators. That's what at stake.
2299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 28, 2014, 09:00:05 PM
Tell people the truth Bob,  Dark is up 2700% since January, maybe you wish to give people the full picture, Bob instead of your one sided story...or maybe inform people that BTC is also down 45%?

More... Early prices (first 15 days extending to first days of February) were 0.25 BTC for 10k DRK.

Today 10k of DRK costs 90 btc... which means 360x (36.000%).
2300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: July 28, 2014, 08:30:27 PM
OK, I will pose a very simple question. How does DRK stay relevant or gain traction in the event that Bitcoin's relative lack of anonymity has been solved by apps like DarkWallet?

DRK is a development platform. Once anonymity work is complete, Evan has plans for more mainstream features.

Coins with no ongoing development like LTC, Doge, PPC etc have big marketcaps without even offering anonymity. Why are they not at zero market cap, per your theory? They don't offer something relative to Bitcoin, do they? And they aren't planning to offer something extra either.
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