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2281  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: September 01, 2013, 04:49:03 AM
In a peacetime society, guns cause violence to stop, because criminals don't like to be shot.

Criminals who want guns depend on and need you to champion gun ownership.

Unless you are in Maryland. Then they prefer the status quo, which is that guns are banned, and they know that everyone but them is disarmed.

Nobody ever said a non unified approach is worth shit.

How much more unified can you get than "Carrying a gun? Go to jail."  Or are we back to the "gun control only works if every country in the world implements it, except it woks in Japan despite no unification?"

Japan is consistent.

So is Maryland.

So? How is that the same?

It is the same. Both places are consistent in their bans. How it is different?

Japan is a nation. Maryland is a state within a nation. Duh.

Gun legislation is on a state level, not on countrywide level. So it might as well be a country from gun control standpoint. Only difference is it's easier to get into MD from the border areas than into the island of Japan. I guess we should set up border fence everywhere and rifle through everyone's cars and baggage every time anyone crosses state lines. That should fix any problems.

My god you're an idiot. Oh, I said that before. I wonder why. Go back and read the very dialog we had, quoted right here. Look for the term "unified". Jesus fuck.

Yes, we have, and you made just as much sense before. Learn to logic.

Don't be so obtuse, if it's within your capability to not be. Round and round is your mode of argumentation, ignoring all prior points, either due to trollish behavior, or just plain stupidity.

I am absolutely sure it's because you make a completely incoherent or illogical point, pat yourself on the back about it, thinking you're awesome, and convince yourself that you have made a perfect, indefensible argument, while the rest of us are either trying to figure out what the heel your talking about, or are frantically trying to point out your logic errors, which you refuse to recognize. I mean, you absolutely *insist* that correlation = causation, that law breakers follow laws, etc.
2282  Other / Politics & Society / Re: High ranking member of the Devil worshiper cult illuminati Donald Trump sued on: September 01, 2013, 04:42:36 AM
I wish you'd stop saying that the Illuminati are devil worshipers. They're atheists.
2283  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: September 01, 2013, 04:36:56 AM
In a peacetime society, guns cause violence to stop, because criminals don't like to be shot.

Criminals who want guns depend on and need you to champion gun ownership.

Unless you are in Maryland. Then they prefer the status quo, which is that guns are banned, and they know that everyone but them is disarmed.

Nobody ever said a non unified approach is worth shit.

How much more unified can you get than "Carrying a gun? Go to jail."  Or are we back to the "gun control only works if every country in the world implements it, except it woks in Japan despite no unification?"

Japan is consistent.

So is Maryland.

So? How is that the same?

It is the same. Both places are consistent in their bans. How it is different?

Japan is a nation. Maryland is a state within a nation. Duh.

Gun legislation is on a state level, not on countrywide level. So it might as well be a country from gun control standpoint. Only difference is it's easier to get into MD from the border areas than into the island of Japan. I guess we should set up border fence everywhere and rifle through everyone's cars and baggage every time anyone crosses state lines. That should fix any problems.

My god you're an idiot. Oh, I said that before. I wonder why. Go back and read the very dialog we had, quoted right here. Look for the term "unified". Jesus fuck.

Yes, we have, and you made just as much sense before. Learn to logic.
2284  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 31, 2013, 10:36:45 PM
In a peacetime society, guns cause violence to stop, because criminals don't like to be shot.

Criminals who want guns depend on and need you to champion gun ownership.

Unless you are in Maryland. Then they prefer the status quo, which is that guns are banned, and they know that everyone but them is disarmed.

Nobody ever said a non unified approach is worth shit.

How much more unified can you get than "Carrying a gun? Go to jail."  Or are we back to the "gun control only works if every country in the world implements it, except it woks in Japan despite no unification?"

Japan is consistent.

So is Maryland.

So? How is that the same?

It is the same. Both places are consistent in their bans. How it is different?

Japan is a nation. Maryland is a state within a nation. Duh.

Gun legislation is on a state level, not on countrywide level. So it might as well be a country from gun control standpoint. Only difference is it's easier to get into MD from the border areas than into the island of Japan. I guess we should set up border fence everywhere and rifle through everyone's cars and baggage every time anyone crosses state lines. That should fix any problems.
2285  Economy / Services / Re: Bitcoin 100: Developed Specifically for Non-Profits on: August 31, 2013, 09:00:18 PM
Received e-mail from Primate Education Network:

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Hi Dmitry,

Amy (my girlfriend) and I were referred to you by our mutual friend, Frankie, about using Bitcoin to seek/process donations online for our startup NGO - Primate Education Network.  Amy and I are excited about this opportunity and we are eager to dig deeper.

We would like to arrange a Skype / phone call with you to discuss this matter further.  As a preliminary point of discussion, PEN is not a registered 501c3 but has a fiscal sponsor, Trust for Conservation International (TCI), through whom we process all donations.  We would like to see how we make this work.

I would greatly appreciate a few minutes of your time to speak further.  Thank you for this opportunity.

Best regards,
Pradeep Suthram

Suggestions for what I should ask about? The only concern is hat their domain is fairly new (2012)
2286  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Bitcoin EU Convention 2013 (Amsterdam, Netherlands September 26th~28th) on: August 31, 2013, 08:51:39 PM
LOL.  Anything you want brought from California?

Nah, I'm in US, so whatever you can buy in CA I can buy in MD. Thanks though!
2287  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 31, 2013, 03:07:10 PM
There was a case some years ago, Cory Maye, where he shot through a door at what he presumed was an armed intruder.  It turned out to be a police officer that was doing a SWAT team style raid on the wrong house - a "no knock raid".  He was convicted of capital murder, spent ten years or so in the state pen and was released on appeal to the state supreme court.

Moral of that story:  DO NOT EVER THINK about shooting at something behind a door

His might actually have been a prudent decision. For shooting through the door, he got ten years in prison. What do you think he would have gotten had he waited for the SWAT team to break down his door and see him with a gun pointed at them?
2288  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 31, 2013, 02:59:20 PM
Bullshit. I was robbed, and then the money that the robbers stole from me was used to kill others. Against my wises I might add.


I hear you. My point is that being the US a place where there are so many individuals self-conscious of their rights and armed with guns precisely to protect themselves from the abuse of Government thugs, you would expect a reaction if the government just milks his citizens, outright stealing from them to commit mass murder. That's a pretty big attack to your freedom, isn't it?

Not exactly. If the tax rate was 75%, high enough to pay for these wars directly, you can be sure that people would be royally pissed. But they are stealing a pretty small percent of people's income, something like 15% to 22% in a directly visible way, and less than that for many more people. Instead they are just borrowing the money from war from China and from people they are promising to pay back much later. Oftentimes without people even realizing they are being borrowed from. No so one sees the theft, or cares about it. Part of the reason Bitcoin may improve things: governments will have to actually work for your money, and you will actually have to see and care what the money taken from you is paying for.

And no, I don't think guns protect me from government. They do protect me from criminals. Money protects me from government.
2289  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 31, 2013, 02:52:25 PM
In a peacetime society, guns cause violence to stop, because criminals don't like to be shot.

Criminals who want guns depend on and need you to champion gun ownership.

Unless you are in Maryland. Then they prefer the status quo, which is that guns are banned, and they know that everyone but them is disarmed.

Nobody ever said a non unified approach is worth shit.

How much more unified can you get than "Carrying a gun? Go to jail."  Or are we back to the "gun control only works if every country in the world implements it, except it woks in Japan despite no unification?"

Japan is consistent.

So is Maryland.

So? How is that the same?

It is the same. Both places are consistent in their bans. How it is different?
2290  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Bitcoin EU Convention 2013 (Amsterdam, Netherlands September 26th~28th) on: August 31, 2013, 02:48:11 PM
I will be traveling from Iceland to attend the confrence Smiley

Bring some hákarl with you. I'll give you some bitcoins for it.
2291  Economy / Services / Re: Bitcoin 100: Developed Specifically for Non-Profits on: August 31, 2013, 04:25:55 AM
Hi Rassah,


I wanted to reach out to you because I saw your site Bitcoin100 and your goal of getting charities to accept Bitcoin.

I run a site called Coinlock (https://www.coinlock.com/)  that basically allows anyone to sell digital content almost effortlessly, with strong assurances of privacy and anonymity.

I was thinking that it would be a great way to sell premium content for charity causes. So for example if an artist wanted to sell art that directly benefit a charity cause they could use the charities bitcoin receiving address when they uploaded the content. I also may modify the site so that a portion of a particular sale could go to multiple receiving parties.

Do you think this could be useful? Please check it out, I'd love to hear what you have to say.

Thanks,

Matt
2292  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 30, 2013, 04:46:54 AM
In a peacetime society, guns cause violence to stop, because criminals don't like to be shot.

Criminals who want guns depend on and need you to champion gun ownership.

Unless you are in Maryland. Then they prefer the status quo, which is that guns are banned, and they know that everyone but them is disarmed.

Nobody ever said a non unified approach is worth shit.

How much more unified can you get than "Carrying a gun? Go to jail."  Or are we back to the "gun control only works if every country in the world implements it, except it woks in Japan despite no unification?"

Japan is consistent.

So is Maryland.
2293  Economy / Services / Re: Bitcoin 100: Developed Specifically for Non-Profits on: August 30, 2013, 04:31:48 AM
Although a nice concise explanation, I'm sure the post would be much larger if keystroke asks you about Pinkie Pie.  Grin I reread that episode last night and am still laughing my ass off.

I can't believe it's been 2 years already...
2294  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 30, 2013, 03:47:24 AM
In a peacetime society, guns cause violence to stop, because criminals don't like to be shot.

Criminals who want guns depend on and need you to champion gun ownership.

Unless you are in Maryland. Then they prefer the status quo, which is that guns are banned, and they know that everyone but them is disarmed.

Nobody ever said a non unified approach is worth shit.

How much more unified can you get than "Carrying a gun? Go to jail."  Or are we back to the "gun control only works if every country in the world implements it, except it woks in Japan despite no unification?"
2295  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New Snowden Leak Reports ‘Groundbreaking’ NSA Crypto-Cracking on: August 30, 2013, 02:47:22 AM
Among the surprises reported by Post writers Barton Gellman and Greg Miller is that the CIA receives more money than the NSA: $14.7 billion for the CIA, versus $10.8 billion for the NSA.

Actually not too surprising, considering CIA's toys include U2 Spy Planes, SR-71 Blackbird, and currently drones.
2296  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 30, 2013, 02:44:52 AM
In a peacetime society, guns cause violence to stop, because criminals don't like to be shot.

Criminals who want guns depend on and need you to champion gun ownership.

Unless you are in Maryland. Then they prefer the status quo, which is that guns are banned, and they know that everyone but them is disarmed.
2297  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 30, 2013, 02:13:19 AM
I mean it sincerely.

[TONS OF LINKS]


Sorry, but in case you haven't understood this after so much time arguing with me, arguments from authority don't impress me, and, most importantly, I am a very logical person, so arguments involving feelings sound like self-serving bullshit to me. If you want to convince me, you'll have to rely on actually, you know, explaining HOW guns increase violence.

Links about how scary guns are, about how gun ownership is correlated to gun crime, or about how guns are dangerous and could lead to accidents (no shit, they're designed to kill) isn't going to get anywhere. Then again, if you are a very touchy-feely type person, then you may not understand how to debate or convince me, either. So, basically:

Your intent is to force people to have fewer guns.
Your purpose is to reduce the amount of guns in private hands.
Your premise is that an increase in guns is directly responsible and/or is the cause of increase of violence.

Our argument is that your premise is wrong, and thus your purpose and intent are misguided. You can demonstrate why it is not wrong by giving a direct, explicit, and precise causal link that leads from gun to violence. Correlation statistics are not a link, they are nothing more than circumstantial evidence. You need o start with "Guns cause violence, because..." and not continue with "guns cause violence." If you can not do that, then you can not convince us.
2298  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 30, 2013, 01:25:57 AM
The simple fact is the reason there are so many mass killings in the U.S isn't because of 'guns' it's because an unfortunately large number of people in your country is made up of the most extremely insecure, racist, homophobic, stupid, arrogant, paranoid, schizophrenic, self-righteous sociopaths I have ever seen.

That sounds like the demographic that most craves having guns.
And then there is the real world. I'm a liberal, gay loving, race mixing, overeducated atheist.  Generalizing is a path to wrong answers, it is what racism is all about. You may wish that gun owners fit your bias, but here in America we are free to be who we are and do not have to fit a mold.

You might be an exception.

He's not. I'm a liberal, gay loving (literally), race mixing, overeducated atheist. I also don't actually own a gun myself, though I wouldn't mind having one, just out of curiosity.

Curiosity killed the cat, Rassah.

Dafuck?! This is the credo I live by: http://areidcuriosity.blogspot.com/
2299  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 30, 2013, 01:05:54 AM
soldiers are using YOUR tax money to slaughter people all over the world, thus you could be held responsible for that. You are financing them. Some of those soldiers are probably your very neighbors.

Bullshit. I was robbed, and then the money that the robbers stole from me was used to kill others. Against my wises I might add.

So why don't you use your guns to stop those killings, committed by your neighbors? Because those "bad guys" are just destroying other people's families, and not your own? Or maybe just because you know you do not stand a chance against the Federal Government and the US army?

Yes, I am not suicidal. Also, I know that trying to shoot back at them is the worst of the possible options in stopping this from happening. There are much better options.

The simple fact is the reason there are so many mass killings in the U.S isn't because of 'guns' it's because an unfortunately large number of people in your country is made up of the most extremely insecure, racist, homophobic, stupid, arrogant, paranoid, schizophrenic, self-righteous sociopaths I have ever seen.

That sounds like the demographic that most craves having guns.
And then there is the real world. I'm a liberal, gay loving, race mixing, overeducated atheist.  Generalizing is a path to wrong answers, it is what racism is all about. You may wish that gun owners fit your bias, but here in America we are free to be who we are and do not have to fit a mold.

You might be an exception.

He's not. I'm a liberal, gay loving (literally), race mixing, overeducated atheist. I also don't actually own a gun myself, though I wouldn't mind having one, just out of curiosity.

I don't think the US is violent because there are many guns - I think there are many guns in the US because it is an extremely violent society, and that violence is rooted in its culture. George Zimmermann killed a 17 year old unarmed teen in self-defense, and this guy (video in the link) shooting a 13 years old kid would have probably been considered self-defense too if we didn't have a video.

Hey, can you remind me, which country was it where a pair of nutcases hacked up a soldier, in the middle of the city, during the day, as bystanders just stood and watched them do it, and then didn't even bother trying to run away? Or in which country did a nutcase with a machinegun go to an island that had a camp for kids, and proceeded to just shoot all the kids who couldn't get away because they were on an island? It wasn't US, was it?
2300  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: August 30, 2013, 01:03:49 AM
Gun crimes increase with gun ownership. It's been stated. It doesn't need to be stated why, for it is obvious. Gun crimes depend on gun ownership.

Car thefts increase with ice cream sales. It has also been stated, and is actually a fact. I could also say that it's obvious. So, would you agree to me preventing you from being able to buy ice cream on this fact alone? I won't want my car stolen, so the obvious thing is to reduce ice cream sales.
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