I don't think this was answered above exactly but are there plans to allow turning an old phone into a cheap hardware wallet? Have some private keys exist on a phone (with some type of phrase to restore them in case the phone dies) that is disconnected from everything permanently and it just signs transactions using qr codes?
It already shows signed transactions with a QR code. The only thing missing is it being able to update address balances from a QR code. |
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it's still pretty dumb that you keep thinking of capitalism as "having a job."
Under capitalism if you don't have a job you cannot live (not counting welfare and charities that only allow not to starve). See, that is exactly what I'm talking about. People like Bill Gates, Sergey Brin, Steve Jobs, and others like them didn't have jobs, or capital to live off of, yet they live pretty damn well. Capitalism is not finding an employer and hoping he will give you a job. That's the sad brainwashing that you and many others were convinced of. Capitalism is creating wealth and trading it with others. If you can't find employers to give you a job, you be the employer. Sure, it's not easy, and is much more difficult to figure out than just having someone else tell you what to do and give you money for it, but it is way better than starving to death. |
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Do you know how many programmers (!) are unemployed in the EU and US now!?
I don't know. I haven't read the latest death toll from starvation numbers. Maybe you can tell me? BTW, it's still pretty dumb that you keep thinking of capitalism as "having a job." It's not having a job and letting someone give you money, it's making jobs and making money. You are too far into the "get a good paying job to survive" brainwashing mentality. |
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OP fails pretty badly in understanding network effects  Welcome, newbie  |
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I do believe we are headed for complete economic collapse, but not by the year 2020. The US will manage to borrow enough to stay afloat until then. 2030 is a more realistic goal.
2030?! Don't you know that economics follows a cycle based on some arbitrary number that has nothing to do with economics, which is Pi, or something?  Pi is not arbitrary. Pi fundamental to anything that is wave based since due to Fourier analysis waves can be reduced to composition of sinusoids, which is what matter is: http://unheresy.com/The%20Universe.html#Matter_as_a_continuumSure, but human ingenuity and invention, which is what drives economics, is not wave based. Or at least is not on any specific pattern. By the way, since apparently no one ever told you (you seem to have had a very sheltered life), you don't get respect by telling people that they should respect you. That actually does the exact opposite. Likewise with claims about trumping someone's logic. You don't do it by telling people that you did, you do it by actually doing it and having them realize that you did. If you didn't make them understand that you trumped their logic, or that your smarts should warrant respect, then you have failed miserably. Otherwise, I could just as easily say, I have successfully refuted all your logic and debates. You have to respect me.Now where is that CPU only cryptocurrency of yours? I'm sure there are tons of botnet operators waiting giddily to get their hands on it. |
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(80-90% "useless population" will fight very hard trying to capture these cities) and even don't having hi-tech products! So, it'll be like the Taliban on camels, fighting US with their satellites and drones? Besides, why would they want to fight? If, as you claim, technological unemployment will make us all poor, then they won't earn much for risking their life fighting. And if it won't, then those they want to fight will be the ones giving them jobs, money, and things to buy. It's pretty sad, and rather disgusting, that some people's default reaction to seeing someone else's wealth is "I'm going to kill him and take it for myself" instead of "I'm going to learn from him and create it for myself." Thank god for karma, keeping these types of people poor and broken. |
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Are you saying people will stop trading things they own when robots start making everything? |
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Somebody mentioned donating to charity, so we don't look like douchebags (I don't mind looking like a douchebag, but whatever). One suggestion is to have Bitcoin100 set up a separate bitcoin address specifically for this party, and then when all the donation money is collected and counted, donate it all, split evenly between all the charities Bitcoin100 has donated to already. It would go to charity, and it would be another thanks for all those charities that supported Bitcoin from the beginning (you can find the list of charities so far on bitcoin100.org). Plus it would spare us from having to vote on, pick,and approach some specific charity. Call it a "rich douchebag tax" for partying too hard.
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Am I able to nominate a non-profit to be a recipient?
Bitcoin100 is not a structured organization, ad is owned and run by donors and anyone else wishing to help. So everyone is free to nominate and contribute. http://www.theroadhome.org/The Road Home accepts Bitcoin donations through a coinbase widget right on their donation page. On their Give link under Make a Donation, they have it split between cash donations on the left and Bitcoin on the right. They provide emergency shelter and run a winter shelter. Any idea when they added bitcoin donations? I'm also curious as to how they decided on it. |
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Their reply: hello. we saw something come up on your discussion forum regarding
when we first heard of bitcoin, that it might disqualify us. we just
added bitcoin donations this december, only very recently
understanding how bitcoin might work for us. its true we were aware of
bitcoin previously, since we run a news service, we hear of many
projects. but we had not thought to incorporate a donation button or
start a wallet of our own until this month. what is the actual rule,
that may disqualify us? sad to hear this
I should add that we put up the donation buttons (litecoin too) directly in response to hearing about your offer, in order to meet your qualifications. Previously we had only accepted flattr. We also added a way for people to mine us bitcoin for the same reasons (also to promote these techniques & technologies). The fact that we posted a story about bitcoin once doesn't mean we accepted bitcoin previous to now, we did not. We saw that great conference panel about bitcoin for non profits & charity just recently, and wrote to you within days, but only after setting up our home page and wallet to meet the terms as described by your website
My main concern is in how this is a charity and not a new aggregator/blog. Antiwar.com actually goes around (in public) raising awareness of issues and does some charity work. Them being at the San Jose conference, raising money for issues (and working to promote other charities, like Sean's Outpost), was what convinced me that they may qualify. |
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As wealthy early adopters, they're the ones who pay thousands for new large screen TVs and expensive gadgets already, remember?
This small price premium at the sale beginning is nothing compared to the full R&D costs. Without the mass market a bourgeoisie and "tech elite" have to pay not thousands, but millions or billions USD so very soon these people will notice they are not the rich anymore! More likely it would mean that no one would make such devices, if they cost millions or billions, and there aren't enough people to buy them. So the only things that will be made will be the things that the makers actually know can be sold. Maybe that means that the TVs won't be as big, and gadhets won't be as fast, but I'm sure these wealthy types will manage somehow. |
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Reduce production to the number of "bourgeoisie and tech elite" and increase prices to compensate, and you'll still make a profit.
Most hi-tech products have huge R&D and initial costs (e.g. lithographic masks for CPUs), so only mass markets allow to set prices on the acceptable level. If we will reduce the production, bourgeoisie and tech elite will be new poor after buying these products! They're elite. They can afford it. They'll be the only ones who can. As wealthy early adopters, they're the ones who pay thousands for new large screen TVs and expensive gadgets already, remember? |
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It may be true for luxury goods, but what about mass-markets products that must be produced in the quantities many times exceeding number of bourgeoisie and "tech elite" to be bring profit for corporations?!
Reduce production to the number of "bourgeoisie and tech elite" and increase prices to compensate, and you'll still make a profit. |
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Another e-mail received: Dear BitCoin100,
We are MAPS, a 501(c)3 non-profit research organization developing MDMA-assisted psychotherapy into a safe and legal treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). MAPS' government-approved research shows that MDMA-assisted psychotherapy can be an effective treatment for people who do not respond to traditional therapies for (PTSD). Our ongoing study in U.S. military veterans, firefighters, and police officers is halfway complete, and early results are promising.
This one passes muster. Donation sent https://blockchain.info/tx/7fe4ff52f3b84b00c9802407e991ebaa1d56b303b6fc6fb41154f1a82dbbb8ce |
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From: erik To: me, Esther Hi Esther, Please meet my friend Dmitry. We met in DC in a group of people enthusiastic about innovative technologies that improve our society. He now runs a foundation that is looking for worthy nonprofits to donate to. I am also getting him in touch with over a dozen more organizations I have been connected to. I think he will really appreciate Naija Worldwide Charities. Dmitry's foundation is called BitCoin100. They arose out of the generosity of a few early adopters of an amazing currency called BitCoins (if you haven't heard of them, this might help) to promote the value of the currency for nonprofits: when donors make their donations in BitCoins, the recipient nonprofit keeps 100% (hence the name). None of the funds are lost to credit card or processing fees. BitCoin100 donates $1,000 to selected nonprofits who agree to accept the currency on their donation page. It doesn't take much work to get it set up, but I know the money could do a lot of good for your genuine and altruistic efforts. @Dmitry, Esther is a friend of mine with a great passion for improving lives of others. I met her in DC while seeking architectural and planning projects worth giving a helpful hand to and since then I have been collaborating with her on designing a hospital project in Nigeria. She is a passionate educator, and an inspirational leader. She founded Naija World Charities in 2008 and received national and international recognition since then. I know they could do a lot of good with $1,000 and I thank you kindly for your time helping out! Good luck! Hello Erick, Rassa,
Thanks Erik for the wonderful introduction, we do the best we can to help those less fortunate than us but it has not been easy. There are so many hurting people around the world whose lives will be improved just with a little help. We would love to be the change agent, the catalyst used in making that difference but at times it feels like our hands are tied due to funding. We work through the grassroots so we meet these people face-to-face, we eat with them sleep on their floors and listen to their stories.
Rassa, good to finally make contact with you. Erik has spoken so much about you and the wonderful work you are doing, I feel like I already know. I look forward to building on this new relationship and maybe collaborating with you in some of the programs that we do. Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Seems pretty good. Doubt there'll be any issues with this one either. Follow-up on this one Esther E
Hello Rassah,
Just to let you know that I have finally set up the Bitpay account for Naija Worldwide Charities and we are now ready. Thanks for your patience, NWC really does very essential programs for the less-privileged in our communities and could use all the help it can get.
I guess soon as they add the bitcoin button to their donation page, and soon as Phinn gets to review and approve them, I'll send the money |
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Upaya: Let's consider another option with Steve Schwartz's cause. Since Upaya is already accepting bitcoin, let's have Steve Schwartz embed a bitcoin Follow-up from Steve: Dmitry,
Thanks, I really appreciate it. Only thing I'd say is that we're not a microlending site (or anything really like it). Rather than 1:1 loans for home businesses with limited upside, we take a stake in local start-ups rooted in poor communities that can create hundreds of jobs and provide stable income for extremely poor families.
Cheers,
Steve
Dmitry,
Sorry for the double email. I just read the post about our application and I should say that the board of Seattle Microfinance (which I was a part of) voted a year ago to close the organization down so unfortunately the suggested is not an option. I am happy to explore other ideas.
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Some more inquiries: From: Steve S. Dmitry, My nonprofit Upaya Social Ventures is working to create dignified jobs in India's poorest slums. Our organization began accepting bitcoin a few weeks ago and a friend recently told me about Bitcoin 100. I would love the opportunity to talk about possibly including Upaya on your site - please let me know if there is any additional information from me and I will be happy to send it along. Thanks and looking forward to speaking soon. Happy holidays! - Steve Steve Schwartz Director, Strategy & Operations Upaya Social Ventures Aspiring Entrepreneurs, Inspiring Outcomes Microlending site. I'm gonna stay neutral on this one. Ca fait longtemps que je n'ai pas parlé français. Avoir du plaisir en revue celui-ci, Phinneas From: erik To: me, Esther Hi Esther, Please meet my friend Dmitry. We met in DC in a group of people enthusiastic about innovative technologies that improve our society. He now runs a foundation that is looking for worthy nonprofits to donate to. I am also getting him in touch with over a dozen more organizations I have been connected to. I think he will really appreciate Naija Worldwide Charities. Dmitry's foundation is called BitCoin100. They arose out of the generosity of a few early adopters of an amazing currency called BitCoins (if you haven't heard of them, this might help) to promote the value of the currency for nonprofits: when donors make their donations in BitCoins, the recipient nonprofit keeps 100% (hence the name). None of the funds are lost to credit card or processing fees. BitCoin100 donates $1,000 to selected nonprofits who agree to accept the currency on their donation page. It doesn't take much work to get it set up, but I know the money could do a lot of good for your genuine and altruistic efforts. @Dmitry, Esther is a friend of mine with a great passion for improving lives of others. I met her in DC while seeking architectural and planning projects worth giving a helpful hand to and since then I have been collaborating with her on designing a hospital project in Nigeria. She is a passionate educator, and an inspirational leader. She founded Naija World Charities in 2008 and received national and international recognition since then. I know they could do a lot of good with $1,000 and I thank you kindly for your time helping out! Good luck! Hello Erick, Rassa,
Thanks Erik for the wonderful introduction, we do the best we can to help those less fortunate than us but it has not been easy. There are so many hurting people around the world whose lives will be improved just with a little help. We would love to be the change agent, the catalyst used in making that difference but at times it feels like our hands are tied due to funding. We work through the grassroots so we meet these people face-to-face, we eat with them sleep on their floors and listen to their stories.
Rassa, good to finally make contact with you. Erik has spoken so much about you and the wonderful work you are doing, I feel like I already know. I look forward to building on this new relationship and maybe collaborating with you in some of the programs that we do. Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Seems pretty good. Doubt there'll be any issues with this one either. And last one, From: santa esecreto hello dmitry. we've run an ad-free, not-for-profit, global-youth-oriented news & education service since 2005 called spectre. begun as a community email list, spectre became popular enough to grew in unexpected ways, including requests for reprints from nonsense nyc, arthurmag & motherboard, plus viral media tools like facebook, twitter, pinboard, pinterest, etc. the mission of the project is simple: to spread good ideas. as news curators we have become many people's favorite news source, in part because we do this mostly without editorializing. the main portal to much of that material can be found here, beloved in certain circles: http://spectrevision.nethttp://spectrevision.net/2013/12/10/price-discovery/anyway we recently became enamored with bitcoin and added donation and mining options to our site. so we are very excited to see your offer. do we in fact qualify? we hope so, and would be happy to explain ourselves further as needed. looking thru your grantees, we too are running a non-commercial education platform like antiwar.com or khan academy. we are a very small group of people, all doing this without much of any financial support since well, ever, so joining this new bitcoin economy is a somewhat exciting prospect please let us know if theres more information you need, and thank you for considering us santa - Please contact Dmitry (Rassah) at Rassah@xnicole.com with any questions or concerns and, moreover, if you oversee, or know of an NPO that could use a $1,000 USD endowment from Bitcoin 100. Bitcoin100 exists specifically to convince new charities to start accepting bitcoin donations. Many Bitcoin enthusiasts of various backgrounds from around the world have supported this project with time, effort and/or bitcoins. In order to use donated funds in a manner consistent with donor expectations, Bitcoin100 donates the Bitcoin equivalent of $1000 to non-political, secular charities that prominently display an option for supporters to contribute via Bitcoin on their website. Not sure about this one. Phinn, what questions would you ask them? |
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