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2301  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will BTC hit $1000 again? on: May 16, 2014, 05:23:31 AM
My advice is: sit tight.

Be right and sit tight.

The first part of the two is easy.
2302  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.6 HARDFORK MANDATORY UPDATE on: May 15, 2014, 08:40:46 AM
After three months of downswing do you think the value will increase?

It will, when crypto currencies in general get out of this dip, the better half of that long tedious road is complete, won't be long now.
2303  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will BTC hit $1000 again? on: May 15, 2014, 07:53:44 AM
Mining business is more serious and risky than just buying and holding coins. I wouldn't recommend to mine or trade coins, buy&hold strategy gives the best results in the long term for most people.
2304  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: May 15, 2014, 07:09:15 AM
I hope the asset exchange will boost it, but i really doubt that the price would rise very quickly.

True. But by the end of 2014 there should be a significant rise, at least double from current price.
2305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else have a feeling NXT is about to explode? on: May 15, 2014, 04:39:14 AM
How many NXT should i hold if i want to become a millionaire?

10k-1kk, depends on which year you want to become a millionaire,  Smiley
2306  Economy / Economics / Re: Does anyone else feel like Bitcoin is a safe investment? on: May 15, 2014, 04:37:01 AM
The price is far below the value,so bitcoin is still a safe investment

How do you determine the value?
2307  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.6 HARDFORK MANDATORY UPDATE on: May 14, 2014, 01:59:54 PM
While I agree with most of your post i don't with point 1.
That whole inflation thing propaganda is based on the fact that people don't calculate the inflation from the first years is which is in terms of thousands.
More than 77% of dogecoins have been mined in half a year compared to what percent in bitcoin.... 5 %?
It's normal that it will have a lower inflation for a period.

And.. i'm anti hoarding...
You want to keep your doge or btc , cool , buy other and spend them instead of the fiat you were going to spend anyway
If everybody will be stashing coins the value won't go up , it will go down...It;s a false sentiment that less available coins on the market will drive the price to the moon.

It was the huge number of transactions for doge and it's growing community that made me feel a bit attached to this coin , although I still see it as a bit of a joke Smiley

If enough demand exists that makes this initial excessive inflation somewhat neutralized, (and we can see the evidence of that in the price, it's holding the 100 satoshi level really good), then we really can discount the first year of Dogecoin supply inflation. Think of it as if it's a Proof-of-Stake coin with 100 bln initial coins and then 5% yearly after that, except that the initial 100 bln. coins were not created at genesis block, but their creation spread over a period of 1 year, which should ensure a more fair initial distribution than any PoS coin.

By the time the public becomes familiar with crypto currencies enough (and this adoption process takes months and years), Dogecoin will have its initial 100 bln mined, and then it will be a fixed 5% yearly, while Bitcoin will still have a ~12%->8% yearly inflation in 2015-2020.

It's not a false statement that less available coins on the market drives the price higher. It really does, provided there is enough marketing happening. Of course, if A coin's users just hoard, but don't do anything, don't faciliate or promote adoption among merchants, don't create publicity events, then the value won't go up, as there are no new users buying into the coin. Dogecoin community is working their asses off to market the coin and have merchants accept it (if you frequent reddit you know this), the only other community that puts equal or more efforts is Bitcoin, but they are way larger and years ahead, so it's natural. Other coins don't even compare. I see Dogecoin's market cap at least on spot #3 this year, and that's supported and confirmed by the trade volume too.
2308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.6 HARDFORK MANDATORY UPDATE on: May 14, 2014, 12:55:29 PM
It's the same. And it's not brighter.

Now , since you gave that many example and talking about average joe...
How many people that owned dogecoins where actually watching nascar races...
The reddit is full of people (in the us) claiming that this was the first time they did and only because of the dogecar..

What I was trying to say is that the last publicity stunts don't really target the audience that doge needs and that most of the people who have seen that car and managed to get onto google to search for doge are having trouble using paypal not even talking about sending "coins" to "d73465743dfdfd66" kind of address.

And about that network effect... sure reddit audience is growing but is dogecoin use also growing?
NO! It's down to 10% since January per daily transactions to 15k daily since the peek of 200k.

There is no such thing as bad publicity. Sure, you can always do better and find better target audience, but it takes too much money to advertise to millions, and Dogecoin is doing its best with the money it can get from donations, and it's not much really, $50k is not much to get a really huge and perfect advertising campaign. However, it was not lost, Dogecoin was noticed.

Now, you talk about daily usage. I think the general trend with any crypto currency now is to buy and hold, not use. People who buy them want to get rid of fiat, because fiat is being printed much faster than any crypto currency, so why not spend a depreciating currency (USD, Euro, Yen, Yuan) and keep the one the supply of which is at least growing predictably and which is undervalued. It was a usage peak in January, yes, because it coincided with generally more interest for cryptos, Bitcoin was making the news more at that time + it was easier to mine doges back then and just give them away at faucets. Now that it's harder to mine, sure, there are less transactions, as doges are being hoarded, people don't give them away as easily as back then.

Dogecoin is more designed to be everyday internet currency, because: a) its supply is not capped (although this effect will be visible in a few years only, as in 2015-2020 Dogecoin inflation will not exceed that of Bitcoin, Bitcoin's monetary inflation will actually be larger for the next 5 years starting from 2015); b) it has more whole units, which appeals to human psyche, people want to feel rich having a lot of whole units of currency, not a measly fraction of a Bitcoin; c) there is no history of shady business in Dogecoin, no money launderers or drug dealers, which appeals to even more people, who don't want to touch Bitcoin for fear of being associated with any shady business. Dogecoin makes it easy for them to try crypto currencies, as it's cheap, and many stay with what they have learned.
2309  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.6 HARDFORK MANDATORY UPDATE on: May 14, 2014, 11:30:23 AM
It's a useless effort to show people dogecoin and talk about dogecoin when they have difficulties in acquiring it.

Huh, what are you talking about? There is no difficulty in acquiring Dogecoins. If you have a verified paypal account, you can get it in in minutes.

To how many people who have only once heard about cryptos and are on the level of "average computer user" have you talked?
Do not overestimate the average joe.

If you go to the main forum and read the experiences of other forum members while trying to convince poeple to use cryptos you'll see that things are not that easy.
Just because you and your friends know a lot about a subject and a game it doesn't mean that the rest of the world has even heard of it.



Isn't the situation the same with Bitcoin? If you want to acquire any crypto, you at least have to do a little bit of research. It takes as little as 5 minutes of googling to find how to buy doges with paypal, and it's really easy to do. If someone is genuinely interested to buy some doges, is a 5 minutes time to invest into research such an unsurmountable task? Nobody's going to spoon feed cryptos, it's your own money, you can keep the money in the bank and hope that you won't be bailed-in, or you can do research and diversify. You can lead the horse to the river, but can't make it drink. With that in mind, I don't see your point.

a) people come to reddit.com/r/dogecoin
b) they ask how to quickly buy doges
c) in reply they get a few links, and in a few minutes they are set.

I mean, it's the internet, you have to have basic skills to be able to google and click on links, download files, and just be around computers for a while to be able to use crypto currencies. If your average joe isn't able to do that, or too lazy to learn basic skills, there is no hope for that average joe then, no matter what crypto currency, dogecoin or not.

Besides, Dogecoin attracts youngsters, youngsters are more sociable and share ideas more easily, each Dogecoin user on average brings in another 3 Dogecoin users, hence network effect is faster than with other cryptos.
2310  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Nxt is the future? on: May 14, 2014, 06:24:56 AM
Nxt is only №19 in Cryptocoins Fair Rating - http://emill.org/coins
 Embarrassed

No, I do not think Nxt is the future of cryptocoins.

If you were around markets and trading longer, you would know that all ratings usually have sponsors or founders who 'like' certain items to be at the top and competition to be at the bottom Smiley Do not ever trust ratings, do your own due diligence, is the best piece of advice you can get choosing what to invest in.
2311  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin just a stepping stone to something better? on: May 14, 2014, 05:16:15 AM
Why spend it in 2 years when you can wait 2 more years for price to go up even more?  In fact just never spend it and when you die pass it on to your kids.  In theory price will rise to infinity no?

Correct. That is why Bitcoin is not fit to be an every day internet currency. What it does best is perform the store of value function. As for exchange for goods and services I think Dogecoin has a good chance to become that every day internet currency for circulation.
2312  Economy / Economics / Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction on: May 14, 2014, 05:10:30 AM
POS coins are deflationary?  Cheesy You have no clue what you're talking about.
Here you go, read about a POS coin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peercoin

2313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Nxt is the future? on: May 13, 2014, 05:05:18 PM
The future will be multi-faceted, NXT has good chances to be one of the main facets.
2314  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.6 HARDFORK MANDATORY UPDATE on: May 13, 2014, 04:38:51 PM
did anyone think that this money gathering donations can actually be harmful?

because we collect all those dogecoins and we have to sell them in order to donate Cheesy

I know we attract people but selling isn't good Cheesy

Yes, it's good for publicity, but everything has its cost Smiley
2315  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.6 HARDFORK MANDATORY UPDATE on: May 13, 2014, 02:17:28 PM
It's a useless effort to show people dogecoin and talk about dogecoin when they have difficulties in acquiring it.

Huh, what are you talking about? There is no difficulty in acquiring Dogecoins. If you have a verified paypal account, you can get it in in minutes.
2316  Economy / Economics / Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction on: May 13, 2014, 12:38:15 PM
This author knows nothing about Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a deflationary currency and can never be inflated.

It seems you have your definitions mixed up a bit.

Purely deflationary currency means its supply is frozen. Technically Bitcoin is inflationary, because new supply is constantly added to the market. If demand exceeds this supply, there can be periods of deflation, when prices drop, but this is deflation of goods priced in that currency. However monetary inflation of Bitcoin is still there, although it may not be visible. Here is a link for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monetary_inflation

Only Proof-of-Stake currencies can be considered deflationary in the strict meaning of this word, because their supply is fixed and not growing after genesis block.

Bitcoin will become deflationary when the last bitcoin has been mined into existance, but it's still a few years away.
2317  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: I have 3 Million USD to invest into Crypto Currency - How should I do it? on: May 13, 2014, 12:24:54 PM
Here is a balanced mid-to-long term crypto currencies portfolio you can check out.
2318  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin changed my life on: May 13, 2014, 12:15:36 PM
Proof or didn't happen  Cheesy
2319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Hate to say it but - all altcoins are illusional garbage at best on: May 12, 2014, 01:41:44 PM
For many people, yes, altcoins are just an instrument to get other people's bitcoins.
But, isn't bitcoin just the instrument to get other people's fiat as well?
And isn't fiat just the instrument to get other people's material assets?

You see, this logic applies from top to bottom.
2320  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Balanced mid-to-long term portfolio on: May 09, 2014, 09:34:13 AM
Rebalanced some assets back and forth as the situation develops, modified the original post.
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