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1521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitshares-PTS to double/triple in price in the next 45 days!!? on: July 05, 2014, 08:29:25 AM
"BitShares isn't a distributed system, it is more like coordinated synchronized time shared centralized system."

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5402.msg72829#msg72829

another Ripple in the way it establishes network consensus? Not decentralized?
1522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Whats up with LTC? on: July 05, 2014, 08:10:30 AM
Here is a good post by someone that explains a lot:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624223.msg7662665#msg7662665
1523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Whats up with LTC? on: July 05, 2014, 07:42:32 AM
Whats up with LTC?
Big dump a few days ago to sub 8? A recent smaller dump etc

Rats abandoning the ship. Bagholders coming in.

FIFY Cheesy
1524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 05, 2014, 07:38:23 AM
uniqueness sounds a bit like gimmick. Bitcoin has nothing unique. What NXT dont get is they dont have anything Qora could do but a lot better with more user friendliness. Its Nxt that should be worried not Qora. Nxt wallet sucks. Fact.


Who is arrogant now? Wink
1525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 05, 2014, 07:25:41 AM
Because I teased you, so I assumed.

It doesn't matter. What do you think of the second paragraph of my post?
1526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 05, 2014, 07:04:40 AM
I feel the NXT community is arrogant. I m not sure the problem is more attitude than genuine risk. Of course Qora has to check it out and decide if its safe but i trust his judgement over a wallet developer for NXT. Some here have an interest in NXT and want to defend they but as a community they seem in love with their own brillance but i wonder if many average users wont like the NXT system. Qora has user friendliness on its side and should keep this as its focus.

No, dude, NXT community is not arrogant, it was just me who was teasing you, that's all Grin

But if Qora wants to have a competitive advantage over NXT, it really should try to implement unique features that NXT doesn't have. NXT is not going to implement AT in the next 3 months, that's for sure, because there are other features in the pipeline waiting to be implemented. This is Qora's chance to get ahead in this race.
1527  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Forbes Article Predicts Bitcoin Value will "Explode" on: July 04, 2014, 08:28:24 PM
Its been 3 days. Any explosions yet ??

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671389
1528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC and NXT market caps meeting point on: July 04, 2014, 08:25:53 PM
Keep voting.
1529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: July 04, 2014, 04:14:25 PM
Markets are irrational. If market was rational, Bitcoin would be somewhere between Dogecoin and Namecoin in market cap at the moment, because it has most sh*tty fundamentals among most modern coins Smiley

So you are saying actual usefulness and adoption of a coin is worth zero and shouldn't considered a fundamental? Yeah...

He asked why the market doesn't trust. Adoption = market. It's a chicken and egg issue. I prefer to talk about technical fundamentals when it comes to software. Crypto coins are first of all software.
1530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: July 04, 2014, 03:54:34 PM
Markets are irrational. If market was rational, Bitcoin would be somewhere between Dogecoin and Namecoin in market cap at the moment, because it has most sh*tty fundamentals among most modern coins Smiley
1531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 04, 2014, 12:31:45 PM
I heard that too, but I got the impression it would also need some cooperation with a coin developer. And also I think saw him voice the idea of it not being open source too was an option too.

That's fine. Let it be Qora's exclusive feature then Wink
1532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 04, 2014, 12:27:13 PM
Qora isn't a Guinea pig for NXT either. I hope if it works well with Qora the guy holds back from giving it to NXT. If Qora decides to take the risks and irons it out then I don't see why NXT should benefit.

AT is planned to be open-source, that's what CIYAM said Smiley
1533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 04, 2014, 12:26:39 PM
Qora is NOT in alpha.

Considering that NXT is still beta quality and has a few bugs and Qora has more bugs and just fixed the big bug where it couldn't download the blockchain from where it last finished, I would say it's early alpha. But YMMV Grin
1534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 04, 2014, 12:23:00 PM
Qora is not a 'backup' for any coin.

Doesn't matter. Let it be the first to implement AT.
1535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 04, 2014, 12:17:37 PM
Qora should really try to implement AT first.
I consider Qora and NEM to be backups for NXT.
If AT has a critical bug, it will be revealed and then when it's fixed, NXT can adopt AT as well.
The only problem is, Qora itself is still buggy because it's still alpha, if AT bugs are added on top of Qora's own bugs, it could be a nightmare for users and developers. I am not sure why CIYAM is in such a hurry to put AT on the live net. NXT is certainly not ready for AT yet, and AT is not ready for NXT yet.
1536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 04, 2014, 12:04:57 PM
Price for Qora at the NXT AE is higher than at Poloniex or Bter, if anyone's interested Wink

i wish there was more trade volume on nxtAE. nothing has happened for 3 days!!


Some trades happened an hour ago.
1537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 04, 2014, 11:52:35 AM
Price for Qora at the NXT AE is higher than at Poloniex or Bter, if anyone's interested Wink
1538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Kora:: What should we do with left over stakes? on: July 04, 2014, 07:16:20 AM
Destroy them.
1539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 04, 2014, 05:31:09 AM
The Balance column shows a weird negative amount in v11, is it just me?
Confirmed and Generating Balance columns are ok, show the right amount.
The wallet starts ok after shutdown now, so that bug is fixed, thank you!
1540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: July 04, 2014, 04:53:22 AM
"IPO is not a way to distribute currency" is just an opinion.

No, it's not just an opinion.  The person that runs the IPO can create as many fake accounts as they want, send in 10 BTC with all of them, get 90% of the coin issued, then all the BTC money goes back to himself anyway.  So the coin issuer not only gets as much premine as he wants, but also profits from anyone else that sends him money.  You couldn't invest in a more idiotic scam no matter how hard you try.

The only valid form of IPO is maybe proof of burn like Counterparty did.

Sure, the person who runs an IPO can do all that. But there are 2 issues with what you say.

#1. If that person doesn't innovate and develop anything, his scam will fail very quickly, as people will see there is no progress.
#2. If nobody but him invested in the IPO, it means other people don't provide bounties for development and take no part in the life of the community and the coin.

Both of which issues are not true for NXT, as the history of its development shows. So, yeah, 95%-99% of IPOs are probably scam, or if they are not outright scam, they will just fail, because the failure rate of startups is very high due to incompetence among other reasons.

I like the way Counterparty did their proof of burn IPO, I even burned half a bitcoin myself there Smiley But Counterparty cannot be extended indefinately as NXT can due to its architecture, and Counterparty runs on a slow network adding Bitcoin's flaws to its own. Hence, Counterparty can only compare to NXT in how it did the IPO.
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