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2341  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 09, 2016, 06:54:33 AM
This is reality  gambling is  always there and no one  tells you  to play there at  the beginning  therefore its your own decision to engage with gambling then  you should be aware on the risk and consequences  would you suffer  on  playing  on the  long run. It would  surely wreck you out.
it is really always our choice to play gambling at first place. In the owner of the house they are the one's who fix their lives because of gambling, but for us gamblers we are just wrecking our life if we don't have self-discipline to control our self when we play gambling.
basically gamble could fix everyone life as long as you could able to do a bankroll management , but the reality most people just get wrecked , they are broke due gambling habit , they din't know how to gamble properly. in the long run the clear result are to lost every single money you staked.
2342  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: October 09, 2016, 06:42:36 AM
no i do not consider trading as gambling there is a big difference between the two, trading is a little safer that gambling, trading always give you a chance of recovery, while gambling do not give you any chance of recovery.

But trading is still a zero sum game, meaning that someone's profit is another man's loss. So it's not safer than gambling by default, in fact you need a lot of experience and knowledge and even some talent to be able to trade successfully.
pretty simple to consider trading as gambling , those people who have no idea about how to trading properly are people who gamble on trading , and those people who have tons of experience like a pro , they are the real trader and it's not gamble at all.
2343  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 09, 2016, 06:11:58 AM
My reason on gambling is always for profit. I'm curious for people who gamble just for fun, if they lose their bet and lose their money, are they still fun or not. Because losing money on gambling is not fun.
by gamble for fun you may wouldn't get hurt , as if you gamble for profit and expecting a lot of things and it's just give you a regret and disappointment , they would just walk away if get losing money as it was part of the game and it's fair.
2344  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 09, 2016, 05:47:57 AM
It looks like Man United is interested in acquiring Gareth Bale from Real Madrid.  Mourinho and United vice chairman Ed Woodward went to Spain to meet up with Bale's agent.  I think if a deal is made then Bale could be with United as early as the January transfer window.

There's news that Bale is beginning to feel unhappy at Real as it is said that he feels that he can't get out or Ronaldo's shadow.  
afaik that was an old news , few months ago before the summer window transfer opened, mourinho and united interested to sign bale but they can't do much , as bale very happy at real madrid. and the rumour about he is tired can't get out from ronaldo's shadow that's totally just a rumour. united wouldn't spend another big money for a mega transfer like bale .

I know and I'm aware of that.  But this is a new development as the old news was quickly dumped as it was considered impossible.  Well that was then, and now with Ed Woodward going himself to talk to Bale's agent then that shows that they could be serious about signing him.  It is also said that Adidas approves and supports the transfer move.

I wonder what kind of back deals are going on behind the scenes but it could only mean one thing.  Jersey sales.
ah yeah i heard about rooney he may leaving next summer and manchester united looking for replacement , gareth bale will be the first target. idk if this transfer can be done , so far bale looks comfortable live at madrid and play so good beside ronaldo.
2345  Economy / Services / Re: [BOUNTY 1 BTC] [Heatledger.Net] HEAT symbol / logo on: October 06, 2016, 01:47:58 PM
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The OP of this thread offered to promote the contest for more visibility and is apparently doing good job at it.

Logo contest bounty and other possible payments are paid directly to the winners by Heat Ledger Ltd, a registered Finnish company that collected about 1600 BTC worth of cryptocurrency in its ICO ending in August.

Thanks for your interest in contributing to a perfect symbol for the HEAT token!
always better to escrow the funds as maybe there a lot of people not really know much about this heat ledger Ltd reputation , feel free to use it or not but yeah there is no harm to escrow the funds to make people more comfortable. goodluck.
2346  Other / Off-topic / Re: What did you already bought with Bitcoin? on: October 06, 2016, 01:37:36 PM
I didn't buy anything with bitcoin yet as I am only spending them on trading sites and sometimes to recharge my mobile, but may be in future when I have higher amount I will prefer to buy a macbook with it.
you should try to buy something like computer stuff , you can find a good deal about that on newegg. have you ever heard about that site? a lot of people have done make a deal there you might could find a macbook too there.
2347  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: International Games Prediction Thread on: October 06, 2016, 11:50:26 AM
Im gonna pick some matches from Europe groups

ITALY - SPAIN
AUSTRIA - WALES

i pick these two with same bet both team to score
all team were on last euro and all team can score goals so i think this bet is fair and almost certain

interesting , all of them have played very well in euro except austria , i would pick home or away for italy vs spain as i believe this wouldn't be a draw or both teams to score 0-1 or 1-0 for italy. austria vs wales i pretty confident that wales wouldn't lost 3 points but a draw maybe happen , so i would pick draw or away @1.64.

all team showed in first round that they can score also going little risky i now but think that team can easily perform goals here at least to be score at the end 1-1
for wales vs austria it's might workk to bet both teams to score but i pretty much doubt on italy and spain both teams looks wouldn't to score in my opinion , you know how hard italy defensife to break and last time spain get lost from them. this could be a revenge for spain,
2348  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin help poor countries? on: October 06, 2016, 11:28:19 AM
I think bitcoin could help poor countries most likely cause bitcoin has made alot of new jobs if you look at it from another perspective.
Creating jobs is what helps alot of countries so yes i think it has the potential to help.

Creating jobs is one thing and financial stability is another thing. The revenue the company earns should be enough to supply the employees and the future development. That is more easier done on fiat simply because it is accepted everywhere. Its difficult for bitcoin to take that position but it can happen if and only if the governments start to adopt it properly.
i do believe most government around the world wouldn't adopt bitcoin in their economy and banking system. as most of them just think about how bad side bitcoin used out there and then they playing with the media , spread false things. hard to cooperate with them , so nothing so much bitcoin can do to help poor countries developing at least for now.
2349  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about the idea of a bitcoin shop in big cities? on: October 06, 2016, 11:19:11 AM
It would be great if bitcoin shops are opened in cities.More people would come to know about bitcoins, making the community grow.Future of the Bitcoin will become much better
the problem are about so hard to make a big companies that have a lot of stores to accept bitcoin. the real world are not yet ready to wlecome in bitcoin , they still think bitcoin are not really important as long as they have fiat money and more easier to use for them. not really easy to make this happened.
2350  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 06, 2016, 11:02:45 AM
It looks like Man United is interested in acquiring Gareth Bale from Real Madrid.  Mourinho and United vice chairman Ed Woodward went to Spain to meet up with Bale's agent.  I think if a deal is made then Bale could be with United as early as the January transfer window.

There's news that Bale is beginning to feel unhappy at Real as it is said that he feels that he can't get out or Ronaldo's shadow.  
afaik that was an old news , few months ago before the summer window transfer opened, mourinho and united interested to sign bale but they can't do much , as bale very happy at real madrid. and the rumour about he is tired can't get out from ronaldo's shadow that's totally just a rumour. united wouldn't spend another big money for a mega transfer like bale .
2351  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: October 06, 2016, 10:26:47 AM
If you have ever experienced a win with gambling then you are going to think that it is possible to win money with gambling and you will try it again.
You then want to prove your self that you are going to win again and that is why people keep coming back.
it's happened everytime, someone so proud and confident to gamble after get an easy win for easy money. makes them to think do it time after time but didn't work. they would do it like a circle , try to gamble for fun > won it > but losing back > losing more money > bet more > and more > regret it and try to gamble again and so on.

Gambling is the easiest to thing to do in order to get some money back. So for people who has been working very hard and didnt earn a lot, this way of earning can be very attractive. That got them hooked.
yeah you are right they never think about the gambling consequence, also those people who didn't feel how hard earn money in the real world usually just keep gambling all the time as they feel it's better than have to go outside doing a real job in real world.... pretty unfortunate still a lot of people did it.
2352  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: October 06, 2016, 10:07:50 AM
In my opinion don't exist any easiest way of making profit from gambling in any form. You need to put lot of efforts whether you are gambling services provider, a simple player or promoter like affiliate to earn by referring people. There are things which everyone of these categories faces in their ways. Most difficult from these is making profit as gambler what I have seen so far.
gambling are not a place to make money easily , people prespective about gambling the only way to make money easily are really a big blunder. they think that this esiest way means about a certain strategy like collecting small odds in long term or make a big bet in short term etc. it will never work on any kind gambling games , yeah it's never exist.

Yeah i think anyway you put it, there's no sure profit much less an easy way to profit from gambling. Whatever strategy you're using, still there's the aspect of luck whenever gambling is involved so it's really not a good idea to assume at all that you'd profit from gambling

Basically I think all gambling it's easy to get a profit, but it also is very easy to lose. so it all really depends on luck. But if you have a good strategy I think it could help a few percent to win. Although no guarantees, but the chances of winning could be larger.
sports betting for me is very easy to make a profit, it is very easy to predict if I had knowledge of it. but that if it does not guarantee it will always win. an example of a big team this week all disappointing and I lost a lot.
so you think which one are mostly happened? people who gamble and make money easily? or people who lost thousands dollar easily? and it's the real answer don't be wishy washy saying 'easy to win but easy to lost' . gamble on sports are esier for those people who love sports so not everyone can do it.
2353  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: International Games Prediction Thread on: October 06, 2016, 09:38:03 AM
Im gonna pick some matches from Europe groups

ITALY - SPAIN
AUSTRIA - WALES

i pick these two with same bet both team to score
all team were on last euro and all team can score goals so i think this bet is fair and almost certain

interesting , all of them have played very well in euro except austria , i would pick home or away for italy vs spain as i believe this wouldn't be a draw or both teams to score 0-1 or 1-0 for italy. austria vs wales i pretty confident that wales wouldn't lost 3 points but a draw maybe happen , so i would pick draw or away @1.64.
2354  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slot Games ! on: October 06, 2016, 09:24:32 AM
Let`s refresh this thread, nice win on betcoin.ag this time. After drop from 120 mBTC on almost 70 mBTC, Alkemor's tower slot gave me some free spins, and like always when there are free spins there is some nice bonus if you spin something good.
Well this time directly on 360 mBTC and that is around 200 $ in just one spin.
As you can see 0.10 coin.

Alkemor`s tower:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDGf-bufwos

looks like you are on lucky weeks or something, you have won 500mbtc previously from betstreak slots game don't you? you must have certain ritual before start playing and it's bring you tons of luck Cheesy. however i see you are a fan of slots game so no wonder why.

Just wait to see my next post, I returned to betstreak with 57 mBTC deposit. With 100 % first deposit I started with 114 mbt and for now I`m on + 900 mBTC and 79 % of the bonus. Just to finish bonus and I hope I will not lose much, and there is always possibility to make more.

I will post later magic win, again on Charms and Clovers. Again same bet 2 mBTC and 22 500 credits won in bonus spin round. I will show you later when I upload from my phone. In one moment I was on 1.2 BTC but then drop on 900 mBTC.
seriously? you did go up from 57 mbtc to 900 mbtc ? that was incredible luck you have, never won that low amount to higher much than you have did. and so how it's going now? did you succesfully cleared the wagering requirement? just glad to hear there is someone making money looks easy in a slot machine ad you do it consecutively don't you?
2355  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slot Games ! on: October 05, 2016, 11:09:57 AM
Let`s refresh this thread, nice win on betcoin.ag this time. After drop from 120 mBTC on almost 70 mBTC, Alkemor's tower slot gave me some free spins, and like always when there are free spins there is some nice bonus if you spin something good.
Well this time directly on 360 mBTC and that is around 200 $ in just one spin.
As you can see 0.10 coin.

Alkemor`s tower:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDGf-bufwos

looks like you are on lucky weeks or something, you have won 500mbtc previously from betstreak slots game don't you? you must have certain ritual before start playing and it's bring you tons of luck Cheesy. however i see you are a fan of slots game so no wonder why.
2356  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: October 05, 2016, 10:09:52 AM
If you have ever experienced a win with gambling then you are going to think that it is possible to win money with gambling and you will try it again.
You then want to prove your self that you are going to win again and that is why people keep coming back.
it's happened everytime, someone so proud and confident to gamble after get an easy win for easy money. makes them to think do it time after time but didn't work. they would do it like a circle , try to gamble for fun > won it > but losing back > losing more money > bet more > and more > regret it and try to gamble again and so on.
2357  Economy / Lending / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ zazarb's Quick-Loans & Escrow 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ on: October 05, 2016, 09:52:37 AM
as discussed in pm i propose another loan to zazarb with an agreement below

-----BEGIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am poplolnman from bitcointalk.org, today is 05/10/2016. I am asking for loan from zazarb 0.5 bitcoin with my account poplolnman as collateral. If I default my loan, zazarb will be the new owner of my account + privkey from this btc address 1Hmk1R1wDxDERFiBvfdEVU4HJVy8DWdvNM in terms 4 times repayment , 0.125+interest every 15 days + unfinished 0.125+interest from previous loan so it would be 5 times repayment from today.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
H7FqO4W9UdCT1nqd4JxiVBlf9+KYLUNj2e2RD4xfNTQYV1EgSHHETURvxlwEPJZRXBG1SR68jBKkvhVib9c8x3k=
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kindly send the coins here 1Hmk1R1wDxDERFiBvfdEVU4HJVy8DWdvNM

Thanks in advance

the repayment schedule would be

  17th Oct,
  1 Nov,
  16 Nov,
  1 Dec,
  16 Dec,
2358  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: October 05, 2016, 08:12:45 AM
yes it is true, everyone will lose in the long run. an example of what I do on a gambling sport (soccer).
some of last week I always win, but in the end I lost again in large amounts. everyone knows yesterday was a bad weekend. almost all the big teams draw and loss.

That is the reason why many are losing in the end, because they tend to think that because they have won for sometime they still have enough funds to gamble. And because they have experience winning already they are going to think that if they are going to gamble again they have a chance to win again and again but what is happening is opposite.
not just it, when you lost and trying to chase the lost to get your money back , it's always getting worse. they never woke up from the dumb dreaming become rich from gambling and solve every problem with money , but themselves just get problem more and more.
2359  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the primary lessons you earn after you gamble? on: October 05, 2016, 07:14:33 AM
Know your intention. For me, that's the first thing to do and play just for fun is the best choice to make. If you choose to play with that intention, you'll be satisfied using small amounts. After that, set and know your limits before playing. That way you can avoid not just losing all your money, but also being addicted because you know when to stop. Be disciplined and just enjoy Smiley
i remember clearly when i start get addicted to gamble , i just play small amount only on roulette table hoping for fun bet $2 , i do it continuously without problem, but then one day i lost $2 for 5 times consecutively , make me curious i bet more than $2 still got lost until i almost lost $1,000 that time within 1 hour , it was gambling magic damn. tips if you play on real casino don't bring with huge money and put your debit card to avoid something like what i did.
2360  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 05, 2016, 06:55:53 AM
8th BPL match
Liverpool 1 VS 2 Manchester United


Super big match in this week is Liverpool  VS Manchester United, I sure MU will win in this match.

I wont be so sure regarding this. There is no way that manchester united could win this, atleast not as easy as what you expected, although Im a fan of them however Im pretty much realistic about this. It is going to be hard for them to win, in old trafford they got 50% chance to win however in anfield it is as much as 5%
If you are looking for the unexpected result, then Manchester United will win otherwise Liverpool is the fav in this match. On what basis MU will win I don't understand. In all basis, the Liverpool is stronger than MU. And i think MU will give a strong fight to Liverpool. No matters Liverpool will win this match.
yeah i would surprised if manchester united could win away from liverpool in this match , as everyone know liverpool have beat arsenal and chelsea with good margin on both , they would make a hattrick on this to beat all 3 big teams this season that they couldn't do in the last season. i would be on liverpool side for moneyline even i guess the fair result are draw.
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