Your BTC31,250,000 for my BTC25,000,000. Preferred escrow agent?
(p.s. how do I change my profile picture? it won't let me D:)
mmm I think there may be a flaw in this plan, I'd have to send my 31.25 Million coins to the same person that was holding your 25 million coins. (You can't change profile pictures at the moment because of an attack on the forums that used the profile pictures as an attack vector check the Meta section for more info) |
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I will escrow for 21 million + bitcoins, you pay fees.
Sounds good, how much are you asking for 25 million coins? 31.25 million 31.25 million... dollars, pesos, yen? |
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I will escrow for 21 million + bitcoins, you pay fees.
Sounds good, how much are you asking for 25 million coins? |
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So if you have these thousands of Bitcoins, why is it you are trying to do a group buy, rather than just buying the units outright? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=359441.0Please sign a message with an address containing said Bitcoins. Also, what payment methods are you accepting, and are you willing to use escrow? |
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I'm pretty sure Big Vern doesn't use the forums, BitJohn is his PR if I'm not mistaken. I've had the best success contacting Vern directly via skype.
What is his Skype name? ~BCX~ Paul_Vernon |
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I haven't had an issue at all with them but apparently there are a large number of people that have the same problems, missing deposits and withdrawals. I have little doubt BV is aware of the threads here and I haven't seen PR this bad since Solidcoin.
~BCX~
Yeah I've never had any issue either, but I've heard some stories before. All we ask is a little bit of communication.
I'm pretty sure Big Vern doesn't use the forums, BitJohn is his PR if I'm not mistaken. I've had the best success contacting Vern directly via skype. |
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Have you tried contacting Paul personally via email or skype? I don't think he uses Bitcointalk.
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I too was/am worrying a bit, as I bought in higher than I'm happy with, however, looking at the charts there was another 50% drop in November  so mayhaps less to worry about than I thought. |
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Man, I'd take you up on this, but I'm still crossing my fingers hoping the exchange rate goes up, bought in a bit too high  |
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It's not like you can't buy a long assed ethernet cable for cheaps.
It would need to go through at least 5 or 6 rooms, and up 3 floors. That or would require drilling through some floors, as my router is in my basement. My 7 BTC offer still stands, but I'll have to figure out some way to swing it. |
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Is this a culture-difference thing? Do you people not have biscuit shops?
Also, op, old boy, how much is lightening-fast shipping to London?
I've no idea what a biscuit shop is. Fried Chicken fast food places sell biscuits, but they tend to be really salty. So ... cheese biscuits? Nope, just biscuits  Also, I'll remove my side conversation from this thead if the OP delivers, and it turns out this is an actual service and not a scam. The fact that tracking numbers are free with all priority mail packages, makes it highly suspect if you are shipping something more than like 4 ounces without a tracking number, because the price differents nears a trivial amount at anything much more from First class to Priority. |
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I'll offer you 7 BTC including shipping. My question though is, the miner needs to be continually plugged into a router via an ethernet cable? Or just when setting it up? I only have one router in my house, and its not in the best location to be running a mining rig from.
Also, is escrow though a mutually agreed trustworthy party an option?
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Is this a culture-difference thing? Do you people not have biscuit shops?
Also, op, old boy, how much is lightening-fast shipping to London?
I've no idea what a biscuit shop is. Fried Chicken fast food places sell biscuits, but they tend to be really salty. |
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Stickied until the fork (aprox 2 days)
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I can only assume SaltySpoon is being sarcastic. If not then you can add him to a long list of crackpot physicists on the web. Just google all the people who have solved the greatest mysteries of physics by stringing a multitude of scientific words together into nonsensical sentences... You are better off taking those classes first and working on a research project in an accredited university.
Nope, not at all, I'm actually a Nuclear Physics student. I've got another year or year and a half to finish my masters. 7000 C is technically still cold fusion, as natural fusion is only known to take place on the sun. Its far more difficult, even theoretically to have that sort of reaction happen at 0C or whatever "Real" cold fusion is supposed to be at. So I believe the best chance is to replicate the Sun's process as closely as possible within earthly limitations. Its all highly theoretical anyway, so I far from believe I have a method down that will work, when thousands of far more qualified people have worked on it before me, but my goal is to establish new methods which haven't yet been tested. To my knowledge, no one has tried using a deuterium catalyst similar to the sun, to fuel an already started fusion reaction. It has been done with a hadron collider in someway or other, however it has been horribly power inefficent, requiring far more power to start than it could generate, and only allowed it to last for a split second. My plan is to essentially add fuel to allow a simple fission reaction (Thorium in this case due to its chemical properties) to maintain the energy required to hit the activation energy needed. I'm well aware I'd never get funding to actually try it out, but maybe someone with money will build off of my findings. Anyway, if I need a lab assistant, I'll let you know  Oh yeah he's definitely just fucking around Hehe, yeah I know, Thorium goes through fission, but in order to start a fusion reaction, you need rediculous amounts of energy to hit the activation energy for reactions to start taking place, I'm talking about using Thorium + pehaps a liquid helium or deuterium catalyst to provide that initial energy to start the "cold" fusion reaction. I've already run the rough calculations for creating the magnetic field that would allow the reaction to run its couse, although I still have to find a location that would accomodate 7000 C temperatures. I feel sufficiently retarded. From your own link: "Cold fusion is a hypothetical type of nuclear reaction that would occur at, or near, room temperature, compared with temperatures in the millions of degrees that is required for "hot" fusion"I find 7000C to be far closer to 25C than 1 Million + C Also, I shall not derail your thread anymore. If you wish to discuss, we can do it via pm. |
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This is awesome. While I at first thought it would be hugely unefficent and expensive, if they are only talking about a 10 minute airtime, then that wouldn't be any more expensive than just using decent rechargable licad batteries to power the drones. It costs the same amount to ship a package 1 mile from your location as it does to ship it 800 across state lines, So I suppose they could technically be cost efficent.
As far as tampering goes, fire a camera and a gps on them, and impose a huge fine to anyone who tampers with them. Video evidence + GPS = even more profitable than had someone not tampered with them.
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To the naysayers, I'll say this. Do you have life insurance? A typical life insurance will pay 250K, and for that you pay ~100$ per year. Who wants to risk 250K for 100$ per year? Is this a joke? No, it's called insurance and it's based on probabilities.
If you pay $100 per year for life insurance, from birth to age 100, thats $10k over your lifetime, and your beneficiary gets $250k. Sounds like a good deal to me. Back on topic, this deal looks more like a setup than anything else. It either says to me, you think you can have BTC-E ddosed for less than $250k for a week (which I'm sure you could) Or you find that the risk to reward ratio is good enough to try to win on a technicallity. I have some money in btc-e. I want to move my money out, but due to withdrawal limits it will probably take me some time. I rather avoid losing money due to btc-e.com being hacked, disappearing, defaulting etc. Here is the deal i'm offering: 1. I will pay 0.3 BTC to escrow 2. You will pay 250 BTC to escrow (or less - see below) 3. The insurance period will start immediately after both payments are confirmed by the escrow 4. The insurance period will last one week (7 calendar days = 168 hours) 5. During the insurance period, in the case btc-e.com is hacked, defaults, disappears, or I am otherwise unable to withdraw my money from it for any reason, AND this situation is still occurring 192 hours (8 calendar days) after the beginning of insurance period, I will receive 250 BTC from the escrow. You will keep the insurance premium. 6. If #5 above does not happen (btc-e.com is not hacked, defaults, etc.), the 250 BTC will be returned to you after 7 calendar days, together with the premium. 7. Note that I am not interested in the case where btc-e.com is down for an hour or so and then recovers - only if I am unable to get my money out after 8 calendar days from the beginning of the insurance period, will the insurance be activated. The event of btc-e.com being hacked, defaulting, disappearing and so on should be catastrophic enough to be easily determined. Also, I will not have to prove that I actually had 250 BTC in btc-e (I might have more or less at any given time). And no - I don't plan on hacking btc-e myself I will pay escrow fees. If you have 250 BTC and you think the chances of such event happening _during one week_ are lower than 0.12% (0.3/250), then this should be a good deal for you. Also, if you have less than 250 BTC, I might consider paying proportionally to what you are able to put (e.g. for coverage of 125 BTC I'll pay 0.15 BTC). 50 BTC minimum please. I will post the results of the agreement in this thread. This is also an opportunity for you to increase your trust. I don't think this has been tried before, it will be interesting to see how it will turn out. Of the things I highlighted, this seems like a trick to try and weasel a technicallity. If you are unable to withdraw your money from BTC-E after 8 days because you forgot your password, you would techincally win. Or if you request a wire transfer to your bank, chances are it will take more than 8 days, in which case, you also win. While you said you would not hack BTC-E, you didn't say that you wouldn't hire someone to try. And if that isn't enough, assuming you are being completely legit, and feel like gambling with the big stakes, how are you going to get someone to escrow $250,000 in BTC. There are some trusted people about, but I wouldn't trust anyone with that kind of money. |
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I apologize for failing to consider something so blatant. I didn't mean to offend you. I have fixed the original post to reflect that all costs including shipping will be divided among the buyers. Again, very sorry for offending you.
As for losing people's money, again: How could they possibly know I'm the same person when I go to order it?
I'm not the moral police, so just to be clear, I would have nothing to say if you were just violating their TOS. However, when you are risking investors money, you might want to at least make a point of letting people know they could lose 10%. I'm sure affiliates of blackarrow are constantly checking the forums, as they are part of the Bitcoin community, and because this is a great advertising place. I'd be very surprised if they didn't take notice. That being said, there are a hundred ways that they could find out, either by purchasing a place in your group buy to get info, and then closing it down and taking their 10%, or by some other basic sleuth work. Asking unspecific questions, and pinpointing which order is yours. While I suppose its clearly up to you whether or not you want to take the risk, for 10%, I'd be willing to bet that they will do what they can to shut down your order. |
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This thread is for the less morally inclined then I suppose I wouldn't be worried about the morals, I'd be worried about publically listing that you are running a group buy, and then losing 10% of your money. |
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Heheh, he retracted his offer because I pointed out this  |
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