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2361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez on: December 02, 2022, 06:41:19 PM
David Benavidez should know that after Caleb Plant, he will have to wait for at least 1-2 year before he can have that chance especially now that Canelo is still on the process of healing his wrist. So, a tune-up fight will likely happen as the first move that Canelo and his camp would take after the healing period before Canelo will take a much heavier boxers like David or Bivol. Who knows who will have the first dance because Bivol's priority is also Artur Beterbiev (if the latter defeats Yarde on the process)

It looks like Bivol is ready to adjust and go down in the weight division just to make the rematch come true.  So I think right after Canelo recovered, he might be fighting Bivol next.  So probably if ever Davide Benavidez wins this upcoming match against Caleb Plant, he needs to wait longer for a Canelo match.  He wouldn't be the priority of Canelo in its next fight since negotiation between Bivol and Canelo is still going on  and Bivol is ready to take the adjustment so there is a better chance of deal closure.

This is what happens when the champion is a superstar. David Benavidez is the interim WBC champion which means he is already the mandatory of Canelo. But corruption is common in boxing especially in the sanctioning bodies WBA and WBC. Now Benavidez is facing another mandatory which doesn't make any sense. If the rules will be straight-forward, Canelo will be stripped of his WBC belt if he won't face the Benavidez-Plant winner next. But I doubt the WBC will strip him. Don Mauricio Sulaiman is salivating for his percentage in the next Canelo fight.

Bivol will be eager to drop down in weight and face Canelo because he isn't getting Beterbiev who's facing Yarde next. Biggest money available while a chance to become a 2 division champion and an undisputed in just a single fight.

That's the other dark side of this industry, everything has business with the boxers, even the sanctioning bodies are also taking part of the negotiations under the table so that their favorites can maintain their status so that it can produce more milk for them. You certainly got a point, it's expected that the winner of this fight will get to fight the undisputed champion which is Canelo Alvarez. Although, let's already expect what would be the outcome because I don't see that the winner of this fight will have their chance because Canelo wouldn't take any fights if not Bivol.
2362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 02, 2022, 05:29:54 PM
There are rumors roaming around the boxing industry that Lomachenco's boxing style would render Devin Haney's defensive style useless.  I could have put the link to the said rumor but somehow I can't find it anymore.  Either way, I am very interested in whether this rumor is true or not so I hope the negotiation between Devin Haney's camp and Vasily Lomachenco's will have a positive result.

I haven't seen the link as well but I will speculate that it has something to do with Loma's amazing footwork and angles, and if Haney wanted to win then he could come up as the aggressor because he is big and tall and has the reach advantage.

On the other hand, there are boxing analyst who says that Loma's performance against Ortiz is not as we have expect of him.

And that Haney is going to defeat him if he shows that version if the two fight next year.

Both camps will continue to review their opponents fighting strategy, though with what you mentioned, I agree that Loma's last performance is not the same old Loma that we use to know, but on my own opinion, I can say that Loma is a skillfull fighter who can adjust with the way his opponents try to bring the fight, he will observe and will come up with startegy.

We might see the best of him again when facing the title holder, a good matchup that we will expect to happen next year.

I also agree, there are many fans of Loma who was obviously shaken with his performance because maybe the bar has been set very high. Maybe Ortiz is huge for him or Loma is getting old already (as per his crtics).

But he all know how Loma is very skillful, maybe he just had a ring rust or his mind is still with his beloved Ukraine that's why his performance is kinda disappointed.

However, if he is going to fight Haney for all the belts, then that is a extra motivation for him because that's what he really wanted until he lost to Teofimo Lopez.

That's quite a lot of questions even after Lomachenko's victory vs Jamaine Ortiz, well, I understand you guys because I'm also trying to analyze what is up to Loma. Did we really set the bar too high? Or it's just Lomachenko is already old enough to be the Loma that we've known for years? I honestly don't know as well, I even thought that the questions up our head will be answered right after the fight but I guess that just lead us to a different questions.

Maybe the war has took some toll on him, that is why he is not the same Loma we've known before. I hope his fight with Haney will be discussed by both camps so that we can move on Grin
2363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3 on: December 02, 2022, 04:50:21 PM
Actually, I had the same curiosity whether boxers or fighters are allowed to bet on their own fights. I found out that they are entirely allowed and it is legal to bet on themselves, what's not legal is if they will bet against themselves which is quite confusing why would they do that. Also, if they will decide to gamble, they are only allowed to bet the whole outcome and not specifically like by a way of KO or UD. Seems reasonable enough to put these guidelines because they are the only ones who are controlling the fight.

Back to the fight, few days more. For those risky gamblers who wanted juicy profits, this is your chance to bet on Akaho, although his chances are not that great.


True!  Boxers are allowed to bet for themselves but they are only allowed to make a straight bet for themselves meaning they are not allowed to bet whether they can KO or TKO the opponent and the time when they can beat the opponent[1].

Furthermore here are some list of Boxers that bet for themselves

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Shane Mosley

Ahead of his fight against Canelo Alvarez in 2012, Shane Mosley placed a $1 million wager on himself to win despite only earning $600K for the fight. It was quite the gamble, and as we know, it didn’t pay off. Mosley lost by unanimous decision.

Keith Thurman

More recently, welterweight contender Keith Thurman bet on a first- or second-round knockout of retired legend Manny Pacquiao before their 2019 bout. He fell on the wrong side of a split decision. Two years earlier, he bet on himself to knock out Danny Garcia in the first round. He failed to do so, ultimately winning by split decision.

Mikey Garcia

In early August, fellow welterweight Mikey Garcia told reporters that he would bet $2 million on himself to win if he ever got the opportunity to fight Pacquiao. He has long sought this contest. Unfortunately for him, Pacquiao announced his retirement from boxing on September 29 following a unanimous decision loss at the hands of Yordenis Ugas eight days earlier.

Some fighters enjoy better luck with their bets.

Tyson Fury

Prior to his massive title fight against Wladimir Klitschko, current WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury made a £200,000 bet on himself to win. He claimed a unanimous decision victory. In doing so, he not only took home the WBA, WBO, and IBF belts as well as the title of lineal champion, but he also doubled his earnings on the night. That is quite the haul.

Mayweather

While he denies it, Mayweather is rumored to have bet on himself a number of times too. Considering his name recognition and sparkling 50-0-0 record, those wagers would have raked in a ton of dough.

So it is very possible for Akaho to bet for himself  because it is allowed by the sports book, what is not allowed is picking the method or time of victory[1].
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Permitting such wagers would amount to permitting fight manipulation and harm the reputation of both boxing and legal sports betting.





[1] https://shortboxing.com/why-boxers-can-bet-on-themselves-but-not-against-themselves/#:~:text=Fighters%20can%20only%20place%20straight,boxing%20and%20legal%20sports%20betting.

Thanks for providing more information regarding these boxers who bet on their fights, but Mayweather tho, I don't really believe him that he didn't bet on his fights or at least one of his 50 professional fights. He's just keeping his image so shiny when in fact nobody would believe that Grin

It was rumored that he bet on himself on his last professional fight versus McGregor and I somehow believe that the accusations were true because Mayweather could've finished the fight much earlier but he didn't and he just let McGregor do all the actions for the first 5 rounds before Mayweather commenced his plan. Many speculated that he wagered that the fight will last 7-10 rounds because that's really what happened.
2364  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 02, 2022, 07:13:02 AM
Speaking of the Bucks roster, it looks like Khris Middleton will be back in the lineup for them this Friday against the Lakers. It’s been a long time since the Bucks have had their #2 player. It will certainly make them better.

Yes, the Milwaukee Bucks is indeed looking forward to see Khris Middleton again to make his debut this season on their next game versus the Los Angeles Lakers. I remember that the Bucks already listed him to be missing on their first 20 games because of that injury he sustained last playoffs, I bet they could've at least reach ECF if Middleton wasn't injured.

Expect that the Bucks will be much stronger now that Middleton has returned to the scene and Giannis can now move freely again, although, there might be some adjustments to get him in synch but I reckon that won't take long.
2365  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: December 02, 2022, 06:29:56 AM
Ang dami na namang laro bukas, dito muna ako papabor sa mga sure para yung spread nalang po-problemahin ko.
Heat vs Celtics -9 @ 1.91
Bucks -6 @ 1.91 vs Knicks

Congrats kabayan, panalo yong dalawang bet mo kahapon. Muntikan na hindi ma-cover ng Bucks yong spread pero yong Celtics walang kaba dahil two digits yong kalamangan, pati yong bet ko ca Cavs nanalo rin. Kadalasan yong mga nanalo kahapon ay mga llamado sa tayaan, kabaligtaran na naman sa mga resulta noong nakaraang araw.

Mavs -7.5 @1.80 vs Pistons

Isa lang pala yong laro ngayon kaya wala masyadong mapagpipilian.

Salamat kabayan! Naka chamba lang din at naniguro kaunti na mag bet muna sa mga heavy teams hehe. Di ko na nga pinanood ng live dahil parang di ako sine-swerte pagka ganoon hehe. Talo ang Mavericks kabaya kontra Pistons, umabot pa nga sa overtime pero di na pumayag ang Pistons na makuha ulit ng kabila ang lead. Halos si Wood ang Luka lang ang guamalaw sa kanila habang sa Pistons ay halos double digits ang ambag kada players.

Di na ako tumaya kabayan ng nalaman kong iisang laro lang ang mangyayari ngayong araw, pahinga muna dahil mamaya titingin ako ulit kong anong maganda dahil may 11 games para bukas. Good luck kabayan!
2366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia on: December 01, 2022, 06:50:07 PM
I don't know what to say, both are unique fighters. Both have explosively powerful left hands. Ryan Garcia uses a straight guard, but his left hook is very strong. I'm not sure how durable Davis will be if Ryan Garcia hits, but I think he'll be very hard to catch. I think Davis will make more accurate hits. Apart from the hits, according to my analysis, according to the matches I watched, Davis is a unique fighter who fights more intelligently. I bet Garcia will get a TKO this fight.

Ryan was knockdown by Luke Campbell who is not known as a knockout puncher, it just shows that Ryan has a weak spot and a weak chin, and if Gervonta can connect just one punch then the fight is over, Tank can knock out just anybody with a single punch and we have seen that on many of his fight his match with SantaCruz is very terrifying when Leo was knocked out with one single uppercut, Tank can take a big punch, so its Ryan who will be in trouble when they fought.

Well there if you have the whole tree, for me this indicates that if Gervonta Davis can connect Garcia's chin it is something that can be very bad for him, I really don't blame Garcia because I know that a hit there to anyone throws him off, and Of course, in his case I would take care of myself, I wouldn't look for him to hit me there, always in boxing everyone has a weak point, it's where the kidneys are, a blow near the ribs doubles anyone and if he goes with a lot of power because even more so, just like in the genitals, that is something that cannot control the pain and obviously the strength goes elsewhere, however that is why they are boxers, they have to resist all kinds of attacks.

Gervonta Davis will always look to connect, he is known to have power and so it will be a big test for Ryan to survived in Davis connect to this chin. He was able to get up against Campbell, and I do agree that he is not a knockout artist and so Ryan weathered that storm and win that big test of a fight.

But against a hard and power puncher like Davis, it will be a different fight for him. Actually both will have to readjust because Ryan too has that left hook that can knockout anyone if he touches them. So I guess whoever land that first power punch, will gain the momentum in this fight.

Not just power, Davis also got the speed needed so that his foes won't have an easy way reading his movements to predict his next moves. Davis to me is like a puzzle that nobody yet has yet managed to solve that is why he is really a threat on the lightweight division and for Ryan Garcia, he should be prepared enough to face Davis and not just relying on the skill that he possessed now because Davis will just defeat him easily if improve his weakness as Campbell revealed him.
2367  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 01, 2022, 06:14:42 PM


Dimitry Bivol being tired of Canelo Alvarez's excuses just stated that he is willing to fight him at 168lbs.  So Canelo won't have any excuses that it is not his natural weight division.  This is very interesting in the development of their rematch, I wonder if the match would include the defense of Canelo's current title.  Would be exciting if it would be  Grin.

I don't think Eddie Hearn and Canelo will agree to contest the fight at 168 lbs. or that dumb enough to even consider that idea Grin Dmitry Bivol would loved to visit Canelo in his division where he doesn't have any titles to risk whereas Canelo got everything to lose, and if ever Canelo's camp will agree but with no titles on the line, I wouldn't be surprised that Bivol won't give him any attention because what's there to fight or where's the challenge if there will be no titles on the line. I think it will be unfair for Bivol because he also risked his belt during their first encounter.

This scenario might happen as long as it is not written on their contract that a rematch should only be contested at 175 lbs. where the first fight happened. But this case got me thinking, will Canelo accept the challenge and host the fight on his comfortable division? Regarding that his title will be at risk while Bivol don't have any troubles if he will get defeated because he has nothing to lose at 168 lbs. Not sure if it will be worth for Canelo because I bet he just want to take advantage of that rematch clause to make money.
2368  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I want sell my house for bitcoin on: December 01, 2022, 05:03:50 PM
An abandoned house doesn't give you cash flow, you are also paying taxes. If you think BTC can give you more profit since it seems you have already witnessed how it grew during the past halving then invest. However, I am sure that you are aware of the risk of investing in crypto since it is volatile, there's no guarantee that the same growth in BTC price will happen in the next halving. Just invest and don't expect too much.

Yes, the abandoned house is already a liability and not an asset because the OP also provided that its value hasn't increase in the past few years. In the long run, the OP will lose more money because the tax is not cheap anymore and it's not worth it to hold the property as its value is not that changing as well. Selling it and investing in bitcoin is a much better idea, it might be risky, but bitcoin has proven numerous times already that it's really worth it to invest on it.

If I were the OP, I won't waste any time anymore on keeping the property because it won't give me any income at all especially if the OP doesn't have any capital to invest on the property to renovate it and put it on the website so that people can rent it if they want to, like Airbnb style.
2369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3 on: December 01, 2022, 03:19:33 PM
Here you go guys, the betting odds are up.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-john-riel-vs-akaho-ryo-6387073ec8d4e86e60ddb77a

As expected, Casimero is listed as the heavy favorites.

here are the odds.

Casimero - 1.15
Akaho - 5.20
Casimero is being paid less profit but Casimero is a potential player and he is very strong and his fighting capacity is at a very high level.  So I think Casimero will win this boxing match.  Because I've seen him play before and I'm impressed every time I see him fighting . He is a young boxer on the other hand I am a big fan of his body tattoos

That's not a payment structure, it's a betting odds where you will choose to bet on if you are interested in risking your money for this fight. It means if you bet on Casimero, you'll only win 15% of your bet, while if you bet on Akaho, you'll win 420%.
Akaho might get 420% profit but his chances of winning are very low so betting on him is very risky.  Potential bets are better for lower profits than losing real money by betting on huge profits. So I think it makes sense to bet on Casimero in that case . I wouldn't advise anyone to bet on Casimero.  Because each person's thoughts and preferences may be different, it is natural that everyone will bet based on their own opinion and preferences

It's actually not him who will get a profit, but the bettors in case they'll win, and I'm not sure if boxers are allowed to bet on themselves during a fight, I think that's an issue as they can manipulate the fight for them to win, just like losing intentionally to win their bets.

by the way, betting poll looks in favor of Casimero as only 1 voted for Akaho.

Actually, I had the same curiosity whether boxers or fighters are allowed to bet on their own fights. I found out that they are entirely allowed and it is legal to bet on themselves, what's not legal is if they will bet against themselves which is quite confusing why would they do that. Also, if they will decide to gamble, they are only allowed to bet the whole outcome and not specifically like by a way of KO or UD. Seems reasonable enough to put these guidelines because they are the only ones who are controlling the fight.

Back to the fight, few days more. For those risky gamblers who wanted juicy profits, this is your chance to bet on Akaho, although his chances are not that great.
2370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: December 01, 2022, 01:55:11 PM
Terence Crawford: “Jermell Charlo, He’s Not On My Level Nor Errol Spence Level”



I cannot really argue with him about that and I don't see it as boasting as well because clearly, what he is saying is a fact that Jermell Charlo and Errol Spence is really below his level. He could've added more details that the two named champions are also afraid with him, ducking and looking the other way just to prevent a fight with him. These things aren't really that hard to understand because there's no political issues that will be prevent them anymore, it's just that either Spence, Charlo or Haymon is really afraid of the current Crawford.
2371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) on: November 30, 2022, 06:57:45 PM
I mean, I don't know, but it seems like it's impossible for Tank Davis to be portrayed as an underdog, I wish he was, because that would have given me more incentive to bet on him. Regardless, this fight will end in finite and TKO form.

Performance wise, it is clear that Tank Davis has more antiques, he is more skillful than Ryan Garcia. Have you seen how he moves around his opponent making his opponent defenseless?  Ryan Garcia on the other side is all forward, not much of lateral movement and footwork.  Aside from that, popularity and record also shows that Tank Davis is way better than Ryan Garcia, so there is no way Tank Davis will be an underdog here.  Rip your more incentives Grin.

Both fighter are heavy hitter, it is a matter of who will be the lucky one to get the opportunity to land a perfect shot first, that will render his opponent unable to continue.


Davis will keep on moving and attack when Garcia shows unprepared. I like your descriptions and for sure, Davis will
give that entertainment for his fans, knowing him with lots of laterals and footwork in finding the opening.

On the other side, Garcia is more on pushing forward and trying to box his opponent to engage a toe-to-toe exchange of punches. He might
succeed in that style getting Davis in the kind scenario

but if he's not that quick, Davis will take advantage to throw solid combinations, then move away from him.

Before and after I created this thread, my prediction was always Tank Davis will win because he is the better boxer and the tougher man. However, when I was looking at King Ryan's record more closely, I think he has made the much needed preparations to give him a better than expected chance to win. King Ry has very much prepared himself to fight a 5'6" left handed boxer by fighting 2 left handed boxers in his last 3 fights. The last opponent is Javier Fortuna, he is short and can knockout anyone, having much similarities to Tank. I would laugh at King Ry's bettors last week, however, we cannot laugh if we have studied his preparation more.

Well, Ryan Garcia is indeed a tough challenger for Tank Davis but I really don't see any advantages that Garcia might use to the latter except his size. If we say speed and power, surely Tank Davis also got that and even much better compared to Garcia. I know Garcia is good but when it comes to Tank Davis, I think he's just a bit too overrated because he hasn't fought any serious boxers yet unlike the regular champion. Don't know why either Ryan Garcia is too interested in Davis when in-fact he won't be fighting in this division anymore in the years to come, he just can't make the weight needed anymore.
2372  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 30, 2022, 05:44:13 PM
The comment above was right, Lakers problem is when LeBron try to take over and hold the ball, his teammates are all waiting for him to call the play and will end up throwing a force shot, unlike when he's not around, all the guards are aggressive, and they are finding an open man to take the shots.

Why it became a problem when in the first place, that was Lebron's way of playing? The whole team just become sucks at the end and it's not right to blame their loss on one player. That was a 17-point lead and if you are talking about Lebron's way of holding the ball then that's the offense side. The problem with why they lost against the Pacers and blew that lead is a lack of defense while at the same time, the Pacers are really draining those shots even with a proper defense by the Lakers.

That was a tough loss and was supposed to be 3rd winning streak for the Lakers.

The Pacers just give their best and they should be the topic here, not the Lakers.

Yes, he is good at the offensive side but the question is, does the team really need his offense in-exchange to be so bad at defense? The team is also doing everything they can, but it seems that Lebron is just a stumbling block that gives them struggles to properly do their posts. At the Pacer's game, I bet you saw that there were so many times that Lebron could've block that shot or at least give them struggles when they are trying to shoot the ball but no, he is already old to be aggressive again. Just look at them when Lebron's not around, they can move a lot and do a lot because they are not following his lead and wait for his actions.
2373  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: November 30, 2022, 03:18:22 PM

Trip ko lang mag-parlay against sa mga Favorites. Walang halong analysis but pure gambling lang lol.

Detroit Pistons @ 2.65
Dallas Mavericks @ 2.05
Los Angeles Clippers @ 2.36

Total odds: 12.82

Katuwaan lang at nakakainis kasi iyong mga parlay ko nung nakaraan na maganda ang analysis pero nganga haha. Ang reason pa ng pagkatalo is iyong Favorite sa pre-game. Tinatamad ako mag single bet ngayon e. More on handicap sa live betting ang trip ko ngayon tapos parlay naman sa pre-betting.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5091185.msg61368273#msg61368273

Kung nakisama lang yung Piston sarap sana nyang panalo mo, kaya lang 30 points tinambak ng Knicks walang nagawa yung Piston, sayang yung dalawang underdog akalain mo yun talagang pumalag si Luka para malusutan yung defending champ, kung ganito ng ganito ang magiging timpla ng Mavs medyo malayo pa talaga maabot ng team na to.

Dun naman sa Clippers, lupit ng pagkabuhat ni Powell talagang palong palo wala ung tinuturing na big 3 ng Clippers pero hindi naging problema para makalusot sila sa Blazers.

Muntik na yon ah, laki sana ng panalo kung nagkataon na nanalo yong Pistons.

Ito ang dahilan kung bakit ayaw ko sa parlay, ang hirap ipanalo lalo na kung ang ipa-parlay natin ay yong mga underdogs, malaki nga ang returns pero slim naman ang probability kaya stick muna ako sa isa-isang laro bawat araw pero mataas naman ang chance ng profit.

Para bukas, Cavs -3.5 @1.90 vs Sixers. Kulang sa tao ang Sixers sa ngayon kaya magandang bet to para sa akin.

Pwede naman din kabayan pero naka depende lang talaga sa atin kung ano sa tingin natin ang mas pabor sa atin, syempre, at kung ano ang trip natin. Lalo na ngayon at mas madamin tayong palya haha, medyo nakakahingal din tong season na 'to. Hirap talaga hulaan.

Ang dami na namang laro bukas, dito muna ako papabor sa mga sure para yung spread nalang po-problemahin ko.
Heat vs Celtics -9 @ 1.91
Bucks -6 @ 1.91 vs Knicks
2374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3 on: November 27, 2022, 02:28:51 PM
I believe he needs to fight more boxers and even a rematch with Tete and beat him.  That maybe put Casimero to the ranking again.
Did you mean Zolani Tete? Casimero won via TKO against him on 2019, I don't think there's much hype of boxing fans want a rematch between Casimero vs Tete. Casimero need to challenge a champion if he want to gain his popularity, right now either Casimero and Akaho are still unknown boxer out there.

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I agree, a KO is a good win, or a dominating performance that will give him a mile score in UD if the fight lasted till the final round.
I doubt he can win via KO, his previous match against Guillermo Rigondeaux is really close, although he still win via split decision.

I understand that there's too many questions up in our mind that needs answer, currently, all we can do is wait for Casimero to finish his bout against Ryo Akaho and after that maybe we can get some answers to it. It seems impossible to do but Casimero in the bantamweight is already an old news because he is now entering the super-bantam, so it's pretty much better if we just forget what he did in that division because he is now starting from the bottom again.
2375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) on: November 27, 2022, 02:03:39 PM
-cut-
That means that oddsmakers think there is 64% chance of Davis winning while giving Garcia a 36% chance.
I will agree with these odds and bet for Tank.

Compared to Garcia, his combos and movement seem way more composed and technical, and being a southpaw doesn't hurt his changes. While Garcia seem to rely on his natural unpolished talent, and just raw aggressive fast style, using surprisingly quick and powerful attacks even as a defence. Even though those look clumsy compared to Tank, he seem to get ton of power under them somehow.

My guess is that Garcia's style of defence won't work agaisnt technically skilled combos by Tank. Garcia's aggressive style is intimidating but very much defeatable and while his height and reach seem to do add to that and give him confidence, it's all appearances and something that can be taken away fast.

If we are going to be in the technical side, I will say that Tank is more polished, but if we are talking about raw talent, Garcia could be the man here. So it's close but yeah, if the odd markers are going for Tank at 64% then could be true.

Nevertheless, Garcia has been asking for this fight years ago and in several interviews, prior to this one that he will going to beat and knock Tank Davis out. So let's see if that confidence of his will be enough when they face in the ring because he will be the underdog.

I don't feel that Garcia is the underdog because if you look at his fights, he is still very dominant just like Davis. So I view this fight as an even fight, but of course, Bookies are just doing their job so they have to make someone the favorite and the other is the underdog. Anyway, if you bet on Ryan Garcia, I think you should bet now as odds might change as the fight is getting closer.

I think it will be good if Garcia will be the betting underdog? for his backers this is a chance to win, so we will see who's going to be on top as per betting. And this is going to be interesting, not just on crypto sports bookies, but in Las Vegas wherein it is the center of all betting. We might see some whales putting big money on either side as the fight gets closer.

I have yet to hear the tune up fight for Ryan though, as compare to Tank who already has a fight in Hector Garcia in January.

There are a lot of 135 to 140 lbs that is willing to face Ryan, no doubt, but it should be a cherry pick fight, in my opinion.

Both, depends on who are you longing for. If Gervonta Davis will be listed as the underdog here then there will be a lot of bettors who will take advantage of that and it will be the same if Ryan Garcia will. Although, I'm more inclined that Davis will be the favorite because he is the champion and this is his division.

Ryan Garcia haven't announce it yet on who will he take on before their match-up with Tank Davis. He just said that it will be up ahead Davis's tune-up fight.
2376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: November 27, 2022, 09:35:19 AM
^^ Yes, even in the Pacquiao fight, his training or at least when he do the his drills, he is somewhat very slow and not that agile. Maybe that's how Thurman's training is, not focusing on the speed but power because he want's to try to knockout his opponent, and even before he was knock down or lost the fight to Manny, he is known to have that punching power.

So there's no difference it training at all for him, but I think he is more faster that Ugas that Spence recently beat. But has more power behind it. He had Manny in trouble in the later rounds, it's that his weakness was a body punch and when Manny hit him in the stomach, he somewhat wince, meaning he is affected.

For sure Spence team knows that, and Spence also throws a lot of body punch in the Ugas fight and we can see that it has power behind because Ugas will react and then tuck his elbow under him for protection.

So Spence is a good to decent body puncher, base on his stats against Ugas:

216 punches thrown, 70/784 = 27.6 %

So maybe a couple of body shots might hurt Thurman here. But still though, this is going to be a very close fight that might go to the scorecard.

Thurman survived against Pacman despite that 1st round knockdown, so I don't think Thurman here will allow Spence to exploit his weakness. Thurman has probably recovered already from his injury and has prepared for his comeback, so I don't really think that Spence aiming at Thurman's body would be a great strategy.

There's no way that Thurman haven't at least improved from that loss against Pacquiao. I reckon that he might have won that fight if not because of the early knockdown he experienced, that was the driving point why the judges favored Pacquiao and not him. This time, I know that Thurman will not take the same path because he will be predicted by Spence and surely he doesn't want to be in that position again.

If Spence will eventually defeat Thurman, I guess this will be the end of his career because I don't see him competing again if he will be defeated. That is why this fight is interesting enough to see because both boxers cannot afford the consequence that they will deal when they get defeated.
2377  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: November 27, 2022, 09:00:47 AM
Toronto vs Dallas - Dallas
Rockets vs OKC - OKC
Spurs vs Lakers - Lakers

So all ML lahat, ang odds ngayon eh 4.71.

Grabe ang risky ng parlay na ito brader pero goodluck na rin baka maka-tsamba tayo ngayon.

Yong bet ko kahapon sa Magic vs Sixers ay talo rin, kahit wala yong mga stars ng Sixers ay nakaselat pa rin sila, di ko inaasahan yon pero bawi nalang tayo ngayon.

Lakers -2.5 @1.90 vs Spurs

Naglalaro na ulit si James at si AD ay nasa kondisyon pa sa ngayon kaya palagay ko kaya nila itong ipanalo at i-cover yong napakaliit na spread.

Aray! Bawi ka ulit next kabayan @Baofeng, tanging ang Lakers lang ang pumasok sa parlay mo. Pati yung Lakers muntikan pang mahabol ng Spurs sa 2nd half, buti nalang hindi sila gaanong pumalya ngayon at halos double digits lahat lalo na at biglang di nakapag laro si AD dahil sa injury. Congrats sa mga nanalo!

Ito muna sa akin ngayon, iwas muna sa mga malalabong laro hehehe.
Warriors -1.5 @ 1.91vs Timberwolves
Sixers ML @ 2.20 vs Magic
2378  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 27, 2022, 08:26:53 AM
A lot of games today but sadly none that I will be able to watch. I would think the day after Thanksgiving will probably provide some interesting gambling results as you never know who was being good and who had a few too many helpings of pie.

I’m also curious how Anthony Davis is going to play once LeBron James is back in the lineup. If he could keep his recent numbers with LeBron along side him then the Lakers might again be a problem.
The same will happen to me, I believe I won't be able to follow most of these games.

I confess that I'm also curious to see and analyze how AD and LeBron James will perform together again!
I noticed that with the absence of one of these players, I noticed that the Lakers had a significant performance improvement.
Let's see if the Lakers will stick with that winning streak with the duo (AD + LeBron) playing together again.

Lakers got a back-to-back victory against the San Antonio Spurs, although it is not really surprising because the latter is not that kind of a threat in the league. But regarding those topic between AD and Lebron, they seem to compliment with each other as Anthony Davis himself is still averaging good 20+ points while as usual Lebron is taking the lead for them. That is quite expected that AD's average contribution will decrease once Lebron plays again as the ball and points will also be shared towards the players.

On their game earlier, AD wasn't able to play because of the bruise on his left calf that might resulted from his aggressive play lately. But it's not that serious, he just needed some rest and might play again on their next game versus the Pacers.
2379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3 on: November 25, 2022, 06:03:41 PM
It's good that Casimero is just keeping his mouth shut at this fight.

Casimero has his mouth shut because he has nothing to say, what would he say? what would he boast about? When fighters have one or more belts, they show off and talk a lot to get more attention from the media and also put psychological pressure on their opponent, it turns out that in this case Casimero has nothing to show off for that reason he can only remain silent and wait for fight day and see if he can win this fight, that's all he can do

We can't blame the community if they are not used to seeing Casimero's changed behavior right now as that wasn't his usual. However, you have a point though that it might not make sense to make some noise because he is currently not a champion now. However, that's not the reason I'm thinking but because of those events that lead to being stripped out of his belt, not just once but twice.

Regardless, a bit of trash talk should be nice to start some fire. Seems boring if these 2 boxers won't start making some noise thru trash talks. Cheesy
Or maybe he learned his lessons not to open his mouth, or at least back it up, and since he has no belts right now, he can't boast of anything. He can attack Inoue in social media, but not sure if Inoue will be interested at him since he has no belt at all.

Nevertheless, if he can proved once again that he still has that brandish style and has the knock out power, maybe the super bantamweight including the champion will take notice of him. Right now, it's better for him to really zip his mouth and do the talking in the ring.

Well, right now, Casimero should know his place first as he is a first timer in this division and might be best for him to lower his head first because he doesn't have anything yet to boast. Not sure what happened to him lately after he was stripped because that made him changed but there's surely a reason why or he maybe just learned his lesson because having a bigmouth seems not helping his situation.

After this, if Casimero will successfully defeat Akaho, we might see some speculations regarding him and Inoue.
2380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) on: November 25, 2022, 04:58:43 PM

Not sure if his particular statement can be considered as boasting because Tank Davis is really not that easy to defeat and defeating him by a KO is definitely a difficult task to pull off. I know that Ryan Garcia is a KO artist but that alone won't be an advantage in his favor because Tank Davis is also a KO artist and in fact, the latter got more chances than him.

Well, about the Ryan's capability, he can surely have the skill set to defeat Davis and so does the latter too. This fight will be determined if whoever catches the right timing first to pull that KO punch that will turn the tables to their favor.

So far, Davis would be one of the strongest opponents of Garcia that he has to face with.
This is why, this match if with proper marketing, they can really attract a lot of boxing fans to pay for this fight.
I also believe that Garcia will be the underdog here, though the gap of odds may not be far from each other.
This will tell us what is the caliber now of Garcia in this sports. Is he ready to face high profile boxers in his division?

To answer that question, this might be Ryan Garcia's last fight in the lightweight division before moving formally to the super-light because he cannot meet the required weight anymore and that is the reason why this fight is just a catchweight. And regarding about his readiness, still not sure if he is in fact already ready to face a much stronger opponents because this is his first time fighting with the likes of Davis's caliber which is way more above than his own level, I guess we will find that out together soon on their fight.

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