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241  Other / Meta / Re: Persecution and Deleted Posts on: August 14, 2019, 07:47:42 AM
Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"

It doesn't matter how long the post is, it's still an undeleted bump and these should be removed by yourself when you make a new one.

That brings value to my thread, is not a bump
242  Other / Meta / Re: Persecution and Deleted Posts on: August 14, 2019, 07:46:40 AM
[..] where he was constantly accusing me of scam without any reason or evidence.

I never accused you of scamming.
All i did was pointing out that this offer is sketchy and that there is a possibility of user losing funds.

Especially since you were not able to properly answer questions. Combined with your super logic of 'more people doing the same trade means more money for all of us' that raises flags.

It would be way more profitable to simply gather investments and get rich fast, but you decide to offer this 'service' here, promoting it and wasting your time contributing in bounties which earn you a few $ per hour.
This simply doesn't make much sense.



[..] and continued spamming

If it is spam, report the posts.
I am sure the moderators will delete them if they indeed are just spam.



[..] we roasted him.

Grin Did i miss something ?

Sorry, but i won't engage in off-topic discussions where XRP and EOS are considered to not be shitcoins.



After that i started receiving PMs of posts of mine being deleted. Now i'm fine as long as there are a couple ups here and there, but why would a mod delete something like this:

They got deleted because they violated the forum rules. And no, i did not report each of them.

Funny guy, go ahead and read the whole thing again, all you have been done is yelling scam simply because you have no knowledge in the space. I explained things in detail several times, you simply got roasted and disappear(finally  Grin )
Also yeah sure, you aren't the one trying to rise the number of my deleted post, i wonder how you know that i did some translation bounties in 2018. OPSS  i guess you spent good hours searching in my 900+ post history;D Grin Lucky for me i stopped wasting my time with bounties(how is your signature going btw?) and started working on my bots. But hey i will be waiting you on my next month thread, big things coming  Kiss
243  Other / Meta / Re: Persecution and Deleted Posts on: August 14, 2019, 07:08:14 AM
but why would a mod delete something like this:
Your post may not have been off-topic, but not only off-topic replies gets deleted,.
Your bot looks too good to be true, and the services you claim you it offers is to an extent suspicious, so the mod who deleted probably felt the need to warn others(the unsuspecting ones) from falling for such by removing it.

If your "magic" bot is legit, you do not need to worry about it getting deleted or arguing with users over it's potential, just go ahead and use it yourself alone,they'll be the ones missing out, won't they? Wink Grin

What's suspicious ? 95% of all trading is made by algo bots. why do you think they exits? probably because they manage to make money.
Quant shops, Hedge Fund, are they magicians?
Please do your research on the argument.. on next month thread i will share read only key of test account so everyone can see the performance.
Anyway i'm not here to talk about my service, so please stay on topic. Besides that , the "warning of unsuspecting ones" out of a mod's personal opinion of a business like many others and without any bad reviews, would be the worst of things. so i hope and don't think is this



Maybe the last one is off-topic and not much add to the discussion that's why it's been reported and the mods delete it. Seems those earlier post been deleted are old bumps and maybe one guy reported it as well then deleted it by mods, see the reference of the rule below. So far is that the only posts been deleted on your posts?

21. Old bumps should be deleted. [2]

Yeah probably this was it, even though is pretty stupid to consider post like that equal to a 1 word bump.
Yes only these and 3-4 "ups"
244  Other / Meta / Persecution and Deleted Posts on: August 14, 2019, 06:09:49 AM
Hello Meta.
So i had several discussions with user bob123 about my trading bot service
here and here where he was constantly accusing me of scam without any reason or evidence. I even tried to offer my bot service at special privileges to him so he can test it and see i'm not a scammer but refused and continued spamming until, also thanks to other users, we roasted him.

After that i started receiving PMs of posts of mine being deleted. Now i'm fine as long as there are a couple ups here and there, but why would a mod delete something like this:






Maybe i can understand the last one, after replying so many times to the same nonsense accusations i started to lose my calm, but what about the first 2?
245  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for help in marketing trading bot, monthly pay in BTC! on: August 13, 2019, 10:43:55 AM
Also remember once the deal is closed you get lifetime commission which compounds every month since client's bankroll grows as the commissions
246  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for help in marketing trading bot, monthly pay in BTC! on: August 10, 2019, 09:00:42 AM
There are not a lot people who are ready to work for  % of comission
I can understand that but all affiliations work this way. There's plenty of money to be made in this business, i can't think to both developing and marketin so that's why i opened the affiliation program. Also remember once the deal is closed you get lifetime commission which compounds every month since client's bankroll grows as the commissions
247  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for help in marketing trading bot, monthly pay in BTC! on: August 10, 2019, 08:18:46 AM
Bob why no answer, was it too much to read? Are you too busy reporting my posts?
Congrats man, you went through 900 posts and managed to take down 3 "up"


i hope it was worth it.

248  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for help in marketing trading bot, monthly pay in BTC! on: August 09, 2019, 06:40:14 PM
Gonna have to agree with sparks on this one.  Bob just starts off basically calling this guy a scammer, guilty before proven innocent lol.

Bob is just a minnow, thinks a couple hundred is a lot of money, I feel sorry for him that he has to resort to signature advertising for his money.

Shitcoin is a term that gets thrown around too loosely, many still think bitcoin is a shitcoin because of satoshis coins which is essentially a premine before others joined the network.  Anonymous dev that may come and dump on everyones heads in the future.

Thanks, hopefully he will stop this persecution which is going on since weeks.
249  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for help in marketing trading bot, monthly pay in BTC! on: August 09, 2019, 01:44:56 PM
[...]  as the user bob123 that have no idea how market works [...]

Then, please explain it to me.

Especially this:

1. More bots running the trade equals more support for the trade which equals to even higher probability of success.

How can it be more profitable for an individual if more people use the exact same strategy and make the same trades at the same time?  Wink



If i explain it do you promise you will at least read the whole thing?  Grin

Let's start with saying that Bitmex is a very liquid platform ( compared to the crypto world ), so we can have hundreds of bots managing millions of dollars in the same way and that wouldn't be a problem, that would actually increase bitcoin's price stability , and by stability i'm not speaking about flat line or sideways trading, i'm talking about the massive manipulations going on, and Bitmex is the home of manipulations, strongest the orderbook harder is to manipulate! While developing the bots, the easiest thing was to beat the market. the hardest was how to survive the manipulations while trading 24/24h! Anyway, considering current daily volume on bitmex(4bln), managing millions is not a problem, while managing billions is more difficult but still doable.. allow me to answer with an hypothetical example:
Let's say everyone of the 2646119 bitcointalk Members join the bot's army with 500$ each, that means a TOTAL_INVESTMENT of 1.32 BLN USD.
Now a few assumptions:
- Leverage is dynamically handled by the bot based on probabilities, risk reward, near supports and resistances and other stuff.. is in the range of 0 to 25 and we'll just assume a STATIC_AVERAGE_LEVERAGE of 12.5x in the calculations

This means the bots would trade, on average, 1.32BLN * 12.5 = 16.5BLN contracts per trade!
Since the bot does several trades per day that would be impossible to accomplish with current btc liquidity( this is also why good things are yet to come for our beloved BTC). Since we can't trade all that volume, what can we do with all that liquidity ? well a lot. for example we could average our entry by entering with a grid of multiple entries while creating very big resistances at critical levels with the rest of the funds sitting unused. Or you can use that capital to create liquidity if needed. Anyway this will protect the trade which i repeat, is an ALGO TRADE, which mean many other bots are having same entry zone and same targets. The result would be similar yet somehow opposite of what's happening with BTC right now, where very few individuals control the market, exploiting the algo trades in order to create liquidity in a still relatively young market. With a huge "decentralized" army like that protecting the algo trades would be almost impossible to manipulate like today, if not with a lot more money than the army. But hey, someone needs to lose for anyone to win right? No manipulation doesn't mean that everyone wins. like i said, market is ruled by algo bots. there are many algos and many patters, manytimes there are different algos triggering at the same time with opposite side. one of the side will pay the other and the cycle goes on and on maturing the market.

So now you have all kinds of funny scenarios, do you think that what im doing is somehow special? there are huge companies and smaller quant shops and hedge fund doing this and i've spent the last 7 months working like a mad man all day on my version which after A LOT of efforts is mature enough to scale. But how can i grow a legit business if everytime i open a thread you need to spam with constant and stupid scam accusations?

this thread already costed me a lot of time and stress, which is why i hate marketing. Hopefully someone will catch my message, i will come back on bitcointalk next month with api key distribution, see you there bob!  Kiss
250  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for help in marketing trading bot, monthly pay in BTC! on: August 09, 2019, 12:38:53 PM
The guy seems to have some kind of obsession with my project but he's clearly lacking knowledge

Better try to stay away from personal accusations, he's just trying to keep this a safe place.  Smiley

To kick-off your project i would recommend to do 2 things:

1. Give away vouch copies to highly trusted members at no cost.

This requires some investment from your side.
Open a thread especially for that purpose. You should set up the Bitmex account and VPS by yourself.
Fund the Bitmex account by yourself. Create the keys (ofc without withdraw permission) and give the login credentials to the tester.
He then can monitor and report the activities. (of course this requires some trust, but this is the risk you should take)

2. Open a reputation thread.

Let customers share their experience with you and the bot.
This will clarify your legitimacy.



Thanks for the suggestions, i will create a test account a share read only keys to costumers!!
Didn't thought at that. That only works with geeks tough since most people don't know how to use terminals. But this should finally help me get rid of bob once for all  Grin

As you can see from my post history i do very little marketing at the beginning of every month but that always ends in scam accusations and the only new users joining are referred from previous members.

So this month i thought to just give up marketing so i can only focus on developing the market maker and create a sort of "affiliation", which still stands.

If anyone reading this is interested in creating a passive income without any kind of investment if not some effort, contact me and i promise you will not regret it.
251  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for help in marketing trading bot, monthly pay in BTC! on: August 09, 2019, 12:18:43 PM
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Together with the illogical way of thinking he is trying to defend and the 'test investment' of 500$ (initially 1000$; which could very well also bee 100$ or 50$, since it is a test after all) it raises red flags.

I agree. There should be no price for the bot at all - commissions should be enough.
Also, there should be no "minimum investment". Any balance should be fine.


That's the point, he spreads false info all the time. there's no price for the bot, only commissions and first month is commission free.
there's a minimum investment to avoid dealing with "small fishes" exactly as the user bob123 that have no idea how market works and create only troubles.
So i simply refuse to spend an hour setting a vps and the time to manage it for a guy that has a 50$ bankroll and when we lose 5% freaks out.
252  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for help in marketing trading bot, monthly pay in BTC! on: August 09, 2019, 11:59:08 AM
Your bot could place orders at any pair.
This includes buying some shitcoin you are selling with an other account, basically to dump your shitcoin onto your 'customers' without influencing the price.

Dont't mind me, i'm just trying to clear some things up.

1. Bitmex is not a peer-to-peer exchange. You're buying CFD's there.

2. Supported Cryptocurrencies on BitMEX

    Bitcoin (XBT)
    Cardano (ADA)
    Bitcoin Cash (BCH)
    Ethereum (ETH)
    Litecoin (LTC)
    EOS Token (EOS)
    Ripple (XRP)

Which one of that is considered a shitcoin? Which obviously must be one with low volume / marketcap.

Actually i can't see any fraud going on here (didn't test it).
As long as the API keys have no permission to withdraw funds AND the potential customer is fine with eventually dealing any of the supported coins, there is no problem.
I've tried lots of bots in the past, so i guess i can add some kind of competence here.

Correct me if i'm wrong, i'm just trying to be constructive.
I'm not related to this project, i just want fairness for any forum member.



Points from @bob123 that i can relate to:

- You require high initial investment

The more people using the same strategy, the lower the profit for an individual.
That's how the market works.




Thanks for pointing out! The guy seems to have some kind of obsession with my project but he's clearly lacking knowledge in the space. Any trader that's reading this can confirm it.

I even said to him a couple months ago to test the bot with 100/50 $ but refused.
253  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for help in marketing trading bot, monthly pay in BTC! on: August 09, 2019, 11:25:27 AM

Pretending to not understand what i am talking about doesn't make you more trustworthy.

The following simply doesn't make any sense:
You might ask yourself... if the bot is so great, why sharing?
1. More bots running the trade equals more support for the trade which equals to even higher probability of success.

The more people using the same strategy, the lower the profit for an individual.
That's how the market works.

According to you, everyone could use your bot and everyone would make profit.  Roll Eyes

While you might believe that's how it works, this is not the case in the real world.


Sadly the only one not understanding is you, but at this point is clear to everyone that you are only trolling so won't waste more time on your iq level.

From next month members will have access to even a second bot for market making, but hey i'm here to sell my XRP bags!!

If you keep spamming my threads i will report you, since are now 3 months that this is going on.

254  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for help in marketing trading bot, monthly pay in BTC! on: August 09, 2019, 11:20:12 AM

Your bot could place orders at any pair.
This includes buying some shitcoin you are selling with an other account, basically to dump your shitcoin onto your 'customers' without influencing the price.
Bot only trades XBT and will only trade XBT. this is your only point that can stand up, the rest is all nonsense. I could theoretically create some kind of liquidity in shitcoin markets but is not worth 1% of the effort put into the coding. if that was my intention i could just sell on different exchanges at once or go OTC.
255  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for help in marketing trading bot, monthly pay in BTC! on: August 09, 2019, 10:57:14 AM
So many red flags.

- You offer free spots for profit

- You require high initial investment

- You have full control over the funds

- You pay commission for each sale (for free spots!?)

- Your arguments defending this are not logical at all

- Instead of simply making a lot of money, you reduce your own winnings just to offer 'free spots' for others.


Caution:
If this turns out to be a scam (which is very likely), anyone supporting this will get tagged.


Read the whole conversation with him here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161526

Every month you have to accuse me of scam, yet none of my users ever complained.
I will reply once more to every of your false points once, then i will not lose more time with you again:



- You offer free spots for profit
Bot is free to test 1 month, after that there's a 20% commission on net profit to be paid for joining another month.

- You require high initial investment
500$ is used as testing, most of people deposit much more after the first month and there are currently over $75k managed.


- You have full control over the funds
False again, the USER has full control over the funds since they are the only ones that can access their account. Bot can place and delete orders on XBT market only.

- You pay commission for each sale (for free spots!?)
33% of the 20% commission is paid every month to who brought the client, is an affiliation.


- Your arguments defending this are not logical at all
I explain logically every time yet you don't understand a single thing of what i'm saying. so i assume you are either troll or much worst, just stupid.

- Instead of simply making a lot of money, you reduce your own winnings just to offer 'free spots' for others.
I'm making a lot of money, i'm scaling up, but since 500$ is "high investment" for you i think you have no idea what i'm talking about.
Do you have any idea what an hedge fund or a quant shop is ? i can tell that is a big no


Instead of constantly shitting on other people work without any kind of proof, please grow some skills and build your own. You will go nowhere with your signature campaigns, and maybe one day 500$ won't feel that much for you too!

256  Economy / Services / Looking for help in marketing trading bot, monthly pay in BTC! on: August 08, 2019, 10:49:30 PM
Hello,
i'm looking for people that can boost the marketing for my Bitmex Trading Bot
Pay is monthly and in btc equal to 33% of the commission paid by the client.
Once the deal is closed, this can bring huge passive income.
Contact me on Telegram if interested
@Blob_Crypto
257  Economy / Services / Re: 10 FREE SPOTS for BITMEX TRADING BOT ARMY - 🔥 JULY 2019 🔥 on: July 06, 2019, 01:29:53 PM
Yup, a broken clock
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148727

WHAT IF, i post the trade in here, on your god damn face ? would you believe it?

SHORT
ENTRY:
10923

EXIT1: 10804
EXIT2: 10751
EXIT3: 10725
EXIT4: 10549

STOP: 11369



So, how did that trade work out for you? Seems like you've hit a stop there, didn't you?

EXIT1 never got hit, the lowest it got was 10805.. So much for your bot making all the right trades without risk.. How much did you lose here? I imagine you're quite leveraged up.



Yup you're right, bot missed the first exit by 1$ then here's how it managed the risk



A small loss, i will take it no problem.
Also quote me when i said that my bot wins all trades without risk. I said many times that this is impossible and that it has on average a 80% winning rate and that it MANAGES the risk! As you can see, the stop was much higher, but after that wick, it understood that odds were not in our favor anymore and it stopped the trade way earlier.

That's also why is very difficult to give manual signals, market conditions can change instantly and the bot reacts to it changing exits and stops.

Quote
I imagine you're quite leveraged up.

Based on what you imagine the trade was over-leverage? Check the last trade i posted and you will see the loss has half the leverage of the win... i wonder why...



258  Economy / Services / Re: 10 FREE SPOTS for BITMEX TRADING BOT ARMY - 🔥 JULY 2019 🔥 on: July 05, 2019, 08:33:15 PM
And for those interested,
this is how a bot manages risk and lets you earn 6% of your bankroll in a couple hours while you play with monkeys


6% when bitcoin makes 10-20% movements every day proves absolutely nothing, nada. you could've just gotten lucky.

I will make a website that keeps track of the trades so i don't have to fight every time i open a thread.
Thanks for the suggestion.

Untill then i won't up this thread anymore, if anyone is interested in joining the army can contact me via pm

Ps. my bot uses market orders and hidden limit orders, there's no way to copy it, except if i make it open source. That's not even considering multilevel entry.
Why not use /position in the bitmex trollbox with your actual position sizes whenever you open a trade, then archive.is that, and put it on your website instead of these crumble trades that prove nothing except that a broken clock is right twice a day?

(Although, you could fake that as well. Still, it does show whether or not your bot makes the right trades. (spoiler alert: it won't because no one knows whether BTC goes up or down..))

http://archive.is/h45K3

Oh wait, you won't because you can't. you are a broken clock..


Anyway, there is 0 benefit in you sharing this tool if it were actually generating compound interest for you, so... you're either trying to dump insane risk onto your customers, outright scamming them, or generating compound interest out of the good of your heart?
Which one is it.. hm.


Quote
I'm not here to convince anyone, the bot will do that, i'm offering a chance to invest and gain in a passive way without the stress that comes from leverage trading.
What do you mean..? There's no risk, no stress? ....

Yup, a broken clock
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148727

WHAT IF, i post the trade in here, on your god damn face ? would you believe it?

SHORT
ENTRY:
10923

EXIT1: 10804
EXIT2: 10751
EXIT3: 10725
EXIT4: 10549

STOP: 11369

259  Economy / Services / Re: 10 FREE SPOTS for BITMEX TRADING BOT ARMY - 🔥 JULY 2019 🔥 on: July 05, 2019, 05:16:46 PM
If you come in my thread, accusing me of scamming, throwing shit on my work, i have all rights to defend myself, especially after i replied to every accusation in an educated way.

But unfortunately your 'replies' were nothing but hot air.

The whole concept (a.k.a. your service) doesn't make any sense.
Giving you control over funds so that you can make us rich, is retarded.


And you argument that the winnings are higher if more people follow the same strategy is just absurd.
Why not make it public so that every trader can use it? I guess everyone would win then, right? No more loser  Roll Eyes

If that really would be the case (which technically is not possible), the best you could do is to open source it so that a big amount of people can use it.. "more passive income" for you  Roll Eyes


You are delusional if you believe you can catch someone with this obvious scam attempt.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Go spam the forum so you can earn your signature bounty
260  Economy / Services / Re: 10 FREE SPOTS for BITMEX TRADING BOT ARMY - 🔥 JULY 2019 🔥 on: July 05, 2019, 05:14:56 PM
@bob123 raises some excellent points.

I analyzed the proposition by @CryptoSparks at great length on his previous thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148727.msg51286489#msg51286489

while CryptoSparks' attitude can use a lot of improvement, he also makes some intelligent comments, so I really would like to give him the benefit of the doubt, so here is what I propose:

@CryptoSparks you need to find a way for people to track the performance of your bot, for free, for let's say 2-3 weeks, where no one has to give you their API keys; they'll just get the signals on their e-mail / telegram etc. and decide whether to trade or not of their own accord.

I guarantee you, if your bot is indeed consistently profitable at the benchmark defeating levels you suggest, many people would volunteer themselves, after observing the results, to invest much greater amounts than 500-1000 USD you are looking for...

Finally, the argument that more people making the exact same trades leading to higher profits for all is just completely false, you have to change that line of thinking Smiley If indeed your bot were a huge success and you had millions of dollars of capital resting on the same order, most of it wouldn't even get filled on the desired price, and diming bots would emerge just copying the apparent whale on the market but 1-2 ticks better, ( so an identical profit profile cannot be replicated for a high number of customers; that's why most of this style algorithms use the clients' orders to improve the probability & alpha of the trades in their proprietary accounts )...

That's just basic game theory and introductory market dynamics, so you really need to come up with better arguments and a 100% secure proposal for the customer, at least for the trial period.

I will make a website that keeps track of the trades so i don't have to fight every time i open a thread.
Thanks for the suggestion.

Untill then i won't up this thread anymore, if anyone is interested in joining the army can contact me via pm

Ps. my bot uses market orders and hidden limit orders, there's no way to copy it, except if i make it open source. That's not even considering multilevel entry.
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