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241  Economy / Economics / Re: Imagine Bitcoin recognized around the world. on: January 09, 2018, 07:50:53 PM
it is already hit every corner in the world but for sure when the price of one bitcoin hit 100 k $ then be prepared for advance hacking methods .
advance hacking methods?
are you talking about taking down the decades old (by the time bitcoin (if) reaches 100k) publicly maintained ledger running on millions of loads?
Or are you talking about cracking private keys?
because none of the two seem doable to me.
As for stealing login credentials or private keys from local media or exchange servers, its something that won't depend on the price of bitcoins. Potential hackers with enough skills would do it whenever they can irrespective of the price of bitcoin.


and trust me, bitcoin is still unknown by MANY
242  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do we need to gamble? on: January 09, 2018, 07:38:46 PM
Because they think that gambling is the easiest way to earn money.

i really agree with this. People think gambling is easy to do and easy to earn money too, that's why many people trapped in gambling. When you lose so much money on gambling you will keep gambling, because you think you can winning back your loses.
Everyone will agree on why we need to gamble. There's no other reason that we can speak out but only because we want to earn money in the easiest way. And this is how all it works, we do all prefer to gamble as if we experienced the essence of having good luck in gambling. We really don't care and think about the loss, what matters is that we are going to win no matter what happens.
First I need to gamble to have some fun then I want some great money out of gambling. Moreover if I lose some money in gambling I try to recover back that money, so this is why I gamble.
All gamblers are same like you 1st they start to get some fun later after earning a small amount of money, they will think to earn more money and spend more time. Suppose if they lose money they again play to get back that lost and finally they will addict to this gambling. So my suggestion is better don't run behind your lost. It won't come back, and you will suffer a lot.

Occasional gamblers do exist, they gamble with the surplus money they have, the money they don't care about loosing. 
They know when to quit and when to stop, this comes with experience.
What you said is very true for newbie gamblers, they would keep running after getting back their losses, will keep gambling more during win streaks just to get back to square one and loose all they gained. Profit/loss set apart, people love the adrenaline rush associated with this, its fun!

243  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin dead? on: January 09, 2018, 07:33:13 PM
Most of the people that are talking that way when dips or corrections are happening it's like the end of bitcoin for them. They don't get it why bitcoin needs to go through these dips and they are describing it as something that makes bitcoin dead. Don't take those FUDDers seriously when they keep on saying that bitcoin is dead or it is about to end, they lack of experience when it comes to those times.

Exactly. That usually happens with many people who are new to crypto land, as they believe that a huge decline in price is a result of the coin's death. Most of them just panic sell, while others hold onto their coins for the long term as they believe that Bitcoin has a huge potential of becoming an extremely valuable asset in the future. To determine whenever Bitcoin is dead or not, is if it has enough support from its development team, community, and miners. As long as there is a single node and miner on the network, the cryptocurrency would stay alive.

We have seen that over the course of time, Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies have experienced a huge increase in user interest from around the world. Nodes have risen, as well as the network hashrate, making it the strongest cryptocurrency in existence today. All of this is sign that Bitcoin is far from becoming dead anytime soon, and will continue to make strides in the mainstream world for years to come. Whenever someone spreads FUD about Bitcoin, its price starts to decline but makes it a huge opportunity to buy coins at cheap rates as it will likely rise back up again in value making profits to most holders. Just my opinion Smiley

Only if panic sellers knew, "they only loose if the price they bought for". Meanwhile some are happy with just 10% of profit, they can't seem to get past their little stock-investing game.
It's hard explaining bitcoin investments to a conventional investor, they just don't seem to get it, i wish they would open up their mind more and accept the wide horizon of bitcoin.
as for, Death of bitcoin? it makes me laugh so hard! Crypto-era has just begun, its just a beginning, how can bitcoin die when its just a child, a child with a huge future potential.
As long as freedom of speech exists, an impeccable means of economic freedom won't ever die.
244  Economy / Economics / Re: What do you think about bitcoin interest in the near future? on: January 09, 2018, 07:28:06 PM
Bitcoin would be successful! With its popularity rising up almost every day I can see that it has great potential and it would be utilised well in the future.
It sure will ! Even with what all those economists are saying today which I am sure it is because they are so butt hurt, they cannot imagine how blind they were to miss the great moment and then wish they can do everything to get bitcoin back to that moment which unfortunately for them, they cannot.

The interest is growing hugely each and every day and that is something that would keep making the value of bitcoin to keep rising as it is today. Bitcoin has grown past what no one can imagine and it is still growing, the future is great and that is one thing I am sure of.

The truth is no one can really know how far bitcoin is going to go or how things would end up being in the future, but one sure truth is that bitcoin is a coin with a future that is worth waiting for as so many people here today will be happy they got in later in the future just as those who invested far back in 2010.

Trust me, those butthurt economists, the greedy power holders along with their hold on government decision making would never let bitcoin reach its zenith of potential. The liberalization, the economic freedom associated with it scares them, makes them insecure of their influence and power.
I just really hope bitcoin would survive as the top crypto and the government won't launch its own lame cryptos with no decentralization and anonymity, just a minute usage of blockchain and they would call it the "SAFE" and "LEGAL" bitcoin replacement.

245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many Bitcoins would it take for you to Quit Gambling Forever? on: January 09, 2018, 03:41:47 PM
It's impossible to stop gambling especially if you've won so much Bitcoin. On the other hand, most people only stop when they have got nothing left.
You are right, I don't think that people they didn't have any greed about money, even too bit greed. So even a gambler win a huge amount that he can live with it in the whole life, they want more.

Yeah, it is impossible that people stop or quit gambling if they already achieve their desire from it. Even i think gamblers play gambling more becasue they have earned from it and in gambling usually gamblers have no limitation to quit gambling in the winning stage. The reason Gamblers have no least stage of greediness.
Yes, no one can stop to gamble even he had achieved what he wanted to achieve from gambling in his life because the greed for more never allows them to sit at their place and they rely upon gambling to meet their basic life needs and for that, they simply move forward to gambling when they face financial crisis. I have also seen gamblers who are at the last stages of life but still they play gambling to earn money.
That's the thing that we need to work on if we are gambling all the time. The greediness inside of us is the only thing that comes between profit and loss. If you know how to control it and limit yourself it would be beneficial for yourself and also for your bank account. What do you even mean by last stages of life? Are they dying? Probably losing all of their money would result to that.
I think greed can never be erased as it is natural thing. But as you said, one can control his greed if can’t finish it at all because control is something that totally depends on the person himself.

If you will be the man of strong will power, then controlling greed for yourself would not be a big deal but if the case is opposite then no one can save you from meeting disastrous ends in the end of your life.
I agree with you my friend as it’s a natural thing also the people rely on gambling for meeting their basic life needs, so it becomes like a natural thing. Greed can never be erased from the person if once gets in him because he never becomes happy when he sees others very happy from their lives and he is not. This increases the greed of a person to get bigger things than he has instead of reducing it.

Who relies on gambling for basic life needs? Who makes a living out of gambling? It hardly happens outside movies and is extremely stupid to rely this much on gambling. As for greed, it varies with people, some wont ever be satisfied, some would be done with a single win and almost never return back to gambling again.
True, Gambling is a leisure activity. Relying on Gambling for basic life needs is foolish, will lead into bankruptcy and what next? *Suicide*?
Chasing your loses is  the worst thing to do while Gambling. Gamble what you can afford to lose.

I remember a whale 'AKCoinMiner' who has a whole farmhouse setup for Bitcoin Mining and there were stories that he mined 0.5 BTC a day, He lost 800+ Bitcoins on a rally over Primedice and was never seen again. I feel bad for him (He gave me a 0.5 BTC Rain Smiley )

AkCoinMiner! This name brings back memories. He was a huge whale, rich rains, good old times.
I think gambler, even a little active knew about him. He was famous, back when i joined this forums.
Maybe he changed his PD handle, or just left gambling (or just PD?) for his own good. Crazy gambler.
246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many Bitcoins would it take for you to Quit Gambling Forever? on: January 09, 2018, 07:29:28 AM
It's impossible to stop gambling especially if you've won so much Bitcoin. On the other hand, most people only stop when they have got nothing left.
You are right, I don't think that people they didn't have any greed about money, even too bit greed. So even a gambler win a huge amount that he can live with it in the whole life, they want more.

Yeah, it is impossible that people stop or quit gambling if they already achieve their desire from it. Even i think gamblers play gambling more becasue they have earned from it and in gambling usually gamblers have no limitation to quit gambling in the winning stage. The reason Gamblers have no least stage of greediness.
Yes, no one can stop to gamble even he had achieved what he wanted to achieve from gambling in his life because the greed for more never allows them to sit at their place and they rely upon gambling to meet their basic life needs and for that, they simply move forward to gambling when they face financial crisis. I have also seen gamblers who are at the last stages of life but still they play gambling to earn money.
That's the thing that we need to work on if we are gambling all the time. The greediness inside of us is the only thing that comes between profit and loss. If you know how to control it and limit yourself it would be beneficial for yourself and also for your bank account. What do you even mean by last stages of life? Are they dying? Probably losing all of their money would result to that.
I think greed can never be erased as it is natural thing. But as you said, one can control his greed if can’t finish it at all because control is something that totally depends on the person himself.

If you will be the man of strong will power, then controlling greed for yourself would not be a big deal but if the case is opposite then no one can save you from meeting disastrous ends in the end of your life.
I agree with you my friend as it’s a natural thing also the people rely on gambling for meeting their basic life needs, so it becomes like a natural thing. Greed can never be erased from the person if once gets in him because he never becomes happy when he sees others very happy from their lives and he is not. This increases the greed of a person to get bigger things than he has instead of reducing it.

Who relies on gambling for basic life needs? Who makes a living out of gambling? It hardly happens outside movies and is extremely stupid to rely this much on gambling. As for greed, it varies with people, some wont ever be satisfied, some would be done with a single win and almost never return back to gambling again.
247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: January 09, 2018, 03:17:00 AM
That was another easy win for Australia and that made it 2 test matches where they only had to bat the once to win the match. I really thought England would of been a lot better this series but Australia were just too good for them even though England were in 3 of the games but couldn't go on with it. If Stark was playing in Melbourne I think Australia would of won 5-0 as he is the match winner for Australia even if he doesn't take the wickets most of the time but he roughs the batsman up with his bowling and opens the door for Lyon or one of the other bowlers to take the wickets. Congrats to Australia on winning the Ashes and now we move onto the ODI series where I hope England will be more competitive.

I absolutely agree with you. Even I expected England to be more competitive and this series to be a cracker. But as it turned out it was not that competitive. England were there in three of the matches, but familiar collapses haunted them. I also agree with your fact that Starc is a match winner for Australia. He is the one who opens the gates for Cummins, Lyon and others. I am also excited for the ODI series
248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling with altcoins on: January 09, 2018, 03:06:01 AM
Bitcoin transaction fees is starting to get more and more expensive for gamblers to deposit into their account on gambling sites, so I believe the market for altcoins will grow bigger in future on the gambling community, and we can surely expect to see more players wagering with altcoins.
In altcoins market we have a lot of choices and I hope more casinos will accept altcoins so it will give us a chance to gamble all the time.
Bitcoin is good but not this days due to the transaction fee and you cannot just bet small amount as the fee alone will already kill your bankroll, still majority are accepting only bitcoin but sooner they will realize that it will attract more customers when they start accepting altcoins.

I personally don't understand why all Bitcoin / cryptocurrency casinos don't accept the top 10 cryptos and just convert them into their own crypto and then you could exchange or use the equivalent value of the one you deposited (such as BTC, LTC, Monero, etc.) and cash out in one of those.

The days are over where BTC is the only player in the game. Now there are cryptos coming out left and right and nothing is going to stop that. BTC just needs to improve and hopefully soon because fees are through the roof (obviously).

One of the reason houses avoid allowing deposits in alts and let you cash out in some other crypto is because it often overhadows the purpose of the house, users would often use it as just another quick exchange for their cryptos.
I have a fair idea why house would try to avoid this but not much insights on this, I just read this on this very forums quite a while ago.
249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why people are sharing tips? on: January 09, 2018, 02:06:04 AM
I think people share tips either because:

1) They genuinely want to help other people;

2) They indirectly want to solicit better tips from more skilled people;

3) They want to make a difference by sharing their knowledge;

4) They believe they can gain more from it;

5) They want to check how well others do by getting a glimpse of their statuses;

6) Others.

How about others? Any more that you can add up to this? I am no expert but I am surmising these are the very reasons why some people share tips when in fact they should value what they call 'trade secrets'.
Tips and trade secrets are different things. Tips are general points that may or may not be applied to one's lifestyle, trade secret on the hand could be a 'method' to earn better money.
People would only share there methods if
1) Their method stopped working for them and now they want to earn money/respect/reputation by giving away the method
2) Their method is flawless, they earned too much and are now feeling philanthropic (a common trait of the rich).
250  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your first betting? on: January 06, 2018, 02:42:34 PM
I did my first betting on a csgo (counter strike global offensive) skins betting site which was csgopolygon.com. At first I think I probably won my first bet because I really got impressed by gambling after that. I think that my win on the first bet was the reason i started to gamble on such sites more frequently. After that I came to know that it was pretty addicting and harmful as I lost alot of money there and I actually tried to recover that money by betting even more which resulted into even greater loss.


That would really the trigger, mostly now in newbies if they tried to gamble firsttime and they win the game they think that they will win all the games, that it would be easy to win it but when you try it  then that would you notice that it is hard to win and  really fraustrating to loss a lot of money. Now because we are lossing and end up really bad is because we play for profit and not for fun

Complimentary to this is also true, if a newbie gambler looses his first bet, he takes it personally and gets deeper into gambling to win back his loss. Without realizing or overlooking the possibilities of loosing again, he keeps betting. Gambling is a whirlpool which would always succeed in pulling greedy minds towards it, no matter what the outcome is.
Be it wins or losses, greed can never be fulfilled.
251  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time for Bitcoin to shine again on: January 06, 2018, 06:48:17 AM
Keep holding, bitcoin will rise a lot by year end.
Ripple lacks community support, centralized scum it is. Glad to see the coinbase announcement relating to it. Good to see alt coin market caps going down, a good sign for us, good sign for bitcoin.
The mempool will be fine soon rather is getting better with every hour. Last few weeks were the right time to invest into bitcoins, i am sure many people did, they're going to reap the fruit for it in long run.

252  Economy / Services / Re: 🌟🌟🌟 [FULL] JETWIN Signature Campaign 🌟🌟🌟 on: January 06, 2018, 06:32:52 AM
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I am migrating some of my bitcoins to an exchange.
253  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Flat earth on: January 05, 2018, 09:48:38 PM
It's just a joke extended too damn much, don't take is seriously.
I mean, you're stupid if you take it seriously.
An intermediate science student here in India could explain why planets including earth, need to be spherical and not flat.
How do you know Earth is round? Is it because you were told about it in School? Do you trust everything that was taught in school?
There has been this debate for quite a long now, I know that its bullshit theory but they have really made all those who blindly trusted this fact think twice.
I think many of them supporting this theory are doing that precisely, while challenging how most people simply accept what they are told.

So tell me, How do you know the Earth is round? Is it because you own an Atlas or a globe? Or have you actually traveled around it? And if you think you did, did you really look out the window and verify that you were always traveling in the same direction?

I don't wish to live in doubt, i don't wish to be a skeptic maniac questioning everything taught in cool by very respectable people. For if they lied to me, my life has no meaning.
While you, you seem to take pride in doubting everything, being a skeptic maniac.
I was taught sequentially why earth has to be round. I was taught how gravity works, i was taught how spinning objects behave, i was taught how centrifugal and centripetal forces work, i was taught how spinning objects take spherical shape due to these forces (analogous to a simple ice-cream which is spun to make it round). And i was taught all this by live demonstration, if i trust my eyes, i trust my life, i trust this.
And since most of the population was not interested in studying this much just to understand why spinning planets have to be round, they were simply told this as fact.

You sir, can continue living in doubt while being "smart" and denying what's taught in school. As if there aren't enough reasons for kids to act edgy and hate school.



 
254  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casino Faucet on: January 05, 2018, 07:55:23 PM
can you suggest me a good casino site that offers high claim of satoshi when claiming to their faucet?
i want to try different sites


If your plan is to get satoshi and then gamble it you will basically waste your time.

 Faucets are very much time consuming with a very little reward. Each claim will just give you less than a cent.

If you really want to gamble just deposit a few bucks and try your luck.



in a gambler's POV faucets seem like a mere waste of time
but as for the house, they play a very important role in the gambler's psyche, they're a small part of a possible path leading to an addiction of regular gambling. I too got into gambling years ago by gambling faucets on primedice, i did it so extensively that it replaced my daily need to play video games.
Not only this, i use faucets to test my strategies which are always a hoax towards false hope of winning  Grin
255  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 20 Billion Bets | 111+ BTC Jackpot! on: January 05, 2018, 07:49:11 PM
http://www.upsieutoc.com/image/44R8Wm

yeah i pulled 8.8btc from primedice and they told me that there was a blockchain memo error something. i want to ask primedice when i lose then does this error happen Huh
primedice is lack of trust
username: thanhbathien primedice
This is nothing but a baseless and possible false accusation
The linked image doesn't prove anything nor does your post provide enough insights to what you're trying to accuse PD of. 
Considering your trust i would only call this a false accusation. If it's not, please make a proper post in the right section.
I hope your problem gets resolved (if there is any)
256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Simple way to earn Bitcoins through Gambling and Casino games. on: January 05, 2018, 07:24:12 PM
Yes I think Gambling and casino games is a simple way to earn bitcoins if you are always lucky but luck is not always in our side so have some strategy before betting because gambling is also can be the fastest way of losing your money.
How could you think gambling is an easy way to earn money after typing and realizing the "if" condition?
Your definition of easy in above context comes with unsustainable means and false hopes, a very bad attitude to approach towards money making because it reaps regret and sense of failure in most of the cases.
What's more certain and fruit bearing is handwork, investment in self, investment in developing skills, be it trading skills or any other technical skills. In my opinion, pleasure of gaining money after extensive handwork is much more appealing and yields more happiness than "quick" ways.

Yet i associate with gambling and am posting in the gambling section, what an irony.  Grin
257  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BTC getting too expensive to gamble with on: January 05, 2018, 12:14:07 PM
What other cryptocurrency are you using and which casino are you playing at? BTC is getting to expensive to be depositing and playing in just BTC.
Actually bitcoin , was really expensive. Why ? Because of its too high price that's makes it more expensive. Aside from that bitcoin was the main coin use in gambling because if you won using this coin , then you actually won a huge amountbof money.  But as you can see even if the value of bitcoin was too expensive its many gambler are still using it and believe that bitcoin will give them a huge income.

Bitcoin expensive because of its price value is high. Yeah, it is right, when we play with bitcoin then we take a big risk with our big money but if we win then no doubt we have double bitcoin. But instead of it that bitcoin is going to expensive but still people like to play with it and continuously gamblers are playing bitcoin gambling. Because bitcoin has more online gambling sites other than coins.     

Bitcoin is not expensive because of its high price value, websites allow as low as 0.001 to gamble, you don't always need to gamble thousands of dollars worth Bitcoin. Bitcoin gambling is expensive because of high transaction fees.
Even the regular fees now varies from $30-40 which is the amount most of casual gamblers start with. I believe if the Bitcoin-exclusive websites want to survive then they should start depositing alt coins with low fees too.
258  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fair online casino? on: January 05, 2018, 12:07:19 PM
A casino that has survived for 3+ years and has a large userbase would generally be a very trusted casino website. These websites are very transparent and take responsibility in proving themselves fair. Neither would they ever exit scam since they have a huge playerbase and could easily keep earning more.
There customer service is good too, take for example primedice, the website stated off this forums and has a very good customer service.
Don't be too worried about probabity fairness of a website. An unfair game is an extremely stupid idea becuase it would only drive the players away and not captivate them to come back again and again which is a very important factor for any gambling platform.
259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Frustrations: Losing Streak on: January 05, 2018, 10:35:10 AM
It always sucks to be on the losing end of a bet but then again you're supposed to take it on the chin and walk away as if it never happened. Even though it's pretty hard to do so, just think that it wasn't your day and take the L. It's common for gamblers to rage bet in these scenarios, in an attempt to make back the lost fortune but most of the times ends up to be a bigger loss.
We can't do nothing more after losing streak and God's knows that I has so manybof them, except accepting the fact that its not my day and waiting new day and new opportunity. Making raging bets means that your brain is tilted and you can make reasonable decisions anymore, you are going with everything and you can lose all or win a lot, in most cases we lose all. Man should be strong personality fo be able to walk away when it feels that streak will be catastrophic, I'm jot that strong, still.
you should take it easy , even i know it won't! considering there is no good things but regret when you in super annoying moment to get lost a lot of times consecutively , at least just do nothing during that period as it is so risky making decision at that moment, think about the next time you play it will have a better luck.

usually people have a desire to win back what they have lost and that is worst idea.
On this kind of situations then self control would matter on here because if we dont have that control then we would really end up on making even more worse actions specially when we are on rage state. Frustrations is always there because gambling is more on losing than on winning which we think off that its really normal to experience such thing. Just accept the fact or reality so that you wont be surprised or depressed to much on yourself.
that is true , self control are something that what people needed in gambling to avoid you do dumb action.

losing streaks usually makes you under pressure to get back your money as you think it won't happened continuously but the reality shows you the different result, it keeps getting red like something impossible happened, stop it before you lost everything , i have experienced something like that.
I would say win streaks are if not equally, then at least very annoying.
Regret is real after losing all what was won in a win streak and reaching back to square one. Although the only thing that is lost in this case is time and confidence.

Indeed, very important to know when to stop in regards to both win and loss streaks.
260  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When do you know its time to Stop? on: January 05, 2018, 09:16:53 AM
If you have a high tendency to not stop until busting, then I came across these tips which do help:

  • Don't put all your available bankroll directly in the game (in case you're using deposits). Leave always at least half outside as a security measure if you go bust.
  • One must stop after reaching a certain goal, The goal should be predetermined and shouldn't be changed during the play.
  • If you're doing really good, withdraw part of your earnings (if you can, ofc) to avoid losing it all in one go.

Having a big bankroll can make you feel falsely safe in that "oh I'll just keep increasing my bet until I win" but alas, the 30 reds in a row do exist, and will come. Do not let them take it all.

The goal you make should be realistic and firm, Don't change it or else be prepared to face bad consequences.

You gotta fight back the voice that screams inside your brain "Come on, double again and we recover!".

Nice tips, but all the tips in the world don't work until one seriously wishes it to work. Gambling requires some serious self discipline especially whenever things don't go your way, it's at this point where a gambler is at his weak spot, whether to play or quit. I have always advocated for a budget based gambling and having someone close to you who can control you is needed.


Indeed a limit is always a good way to gamble with your money. I would not advice anyone to deposit large amounts of money that they do not really intent to gamble with, this way you remove the urge to bet more than what you intended to bet with. For example, you just intend to bet with 1BTC but you deposited 10BTC (probably thinking this is to save on fees), but really if you lost the 1BTC there is that 9BTC there that you will likely be tempted to use and bet with.

having a limit could help us to stay away from losing too much money and we can leave the games as soon as we can. we don't have to spend all the money and I think with the limit, we actually know when the time for us to stop. but if we cannot control our emotion then I think no matter we have a limit or not, our chance to lose more money is still big.
What about a limit on winning?
It's much easier to quit while losing, quite after reaching the limit of the loss you can afford than to quit while winning because you are not restraint by budget, all you see is possibility of winning more.
It's important to know when to win quit. It's hard to do but better than reaching back to the square one.
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