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2421  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Scarcity is one of the leading factors of Bitcoins value on: November 14, 2019, 06:44:06 PM
Yes scarcity, as in limited supply, aka. deflationary coin. There is of course the way it works, how it runs code and not just obey the whims of an individual or a group of individuals that could change the rules at any point to fit their "needs". Node decentralization.

In short, the "no surprises" is an integral part of Bitcoin's value, along with limited supply. And of course, its technology that ensures its both safe and available; where there is no central authority that could be toppled to make it disappear.

Bitcoin complete is the sole reason it has the highest value in the market. Some people still don't get this, they cannot comprehend a non regulated coin is more valuable than a regulated one, precisely because there can never be surprises.

Your government can make you very poor overnight, as long as they wield the power to do so. Bitcoin takes that power away.
2422  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Cash Advocate Roger Ver Calls Veterans ‘Retired Hitmen’ on: November 14, 2019, 06:36:41 PM
first world war?

was america even under threat of invasion during the first word war? was it really 'defence' they were involved in
was america really at such a danger that the military was in 'defence' mode defending its border. or in 'offence' mode going into other countries borders

funny part is america was in the 'offence' mode when it went into the ottoman empires borders and started clashes there, which ripples into the anger, revenge resentment and holding a grudge that lead to the whole 'terrorist' attacks this millenia

but lets just be quiet about that and pretend america are peaceful and doing it all just as a 'defence' for its people.
much like lets avoid school shooters who terrorise kids being referred to as terrorists and just call them 'lone gunmen' just to avoid bad press.

i personally do praise veterans. not for their actions. but their bravery to risk their lives. even if the cause was unjust.

Hey, it was called Department of War not Defense, until 1947. To their defense (pun), they had a more honest nomenclature back then...

Of course they meddled even more in foreign affairs under the pretense of the cold war and "communist expansion", and by then it was already Department of Defense (against communism terrorism).

And they still did a lose job...
2423  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Informed is Your Country's Police About Crypto? on: November 14, 2019, 06:24:46 PM
In my country the cops used to extort crypto miners by seizing their equipment and charging them with "terrorism funding" or some other bullshit. The courts always dismissed those charges, but miners were losing their precious time while their equipment was arrested, so it was cheaper to pay a bribe to the cops and keep mining. But now there's less news about it, and the central bank has softened their stance on crypto, so I assume cops don't bother miners as much as they did before.

That's terrible these cops are just bully, instead of going after the cheaters they are extorting money from miners who hardly makes any profit due to market situation and also I believe we should be keeping our mining rigs away from public view and try mining secretly. In my country police are least bothered about crypto and don't have much knowledge about it.
Cops have different way of thinking and level of perception so if they think that it can be a good opportunity for them to get benefits then they will literally grab it without even thinking, too bad that some of them aren't able to suffer the consequences of their actions. I just hope that the cops in my country are not like that even though they don't have enough understanding about digital currency because we do have some laws and people have to act reasonably, I also think that they won't bother ruining their own reputation because of that.

That's the norm here as well, they loved extorting miners because, unlike the typical drug traffickers, they were mostly unarmed "nerds" with "too much money for their own good". Indeed later the government did some regulation and ordered to stop the seizing of equipment, but the way things works here, it is not very reassuring unless you somehow have very good ties with someone in power.

Justice here is more about who you are friends/related to, and little about whatever the actions and the written law say.

There is a place where you are supposed to get a mining equipment import license, and exchanges are also supposed to register there and obey their rules, which of course the cops know nothing about, but if their superiors tells them to stop they do it (their superiors also get a portion of the spoils, so the unregistered people are "free game"). Doesn't necessarily mean you get spared if you are registered...
2424  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banks do not control my bitcoins - Zimbabwe News! on: November 14, 2019, 06:14:56 PM
So, everyone should already have heard that Zimbabwe has issued a new currency, because most of us look at Zimbabwe as an example of what goes wrong with Fiat currencies when they fail.  Wink

The problem is that they have a huge shortage of the new currency, so people are only allowed to withdraw a limited amount of it and then there are already people selling it on the street at a premium to people that desperately need it.

So imagine this, you rock up at the ATM and you want to draw $500, but all the ATMs tells you that you can only withdraw a maximum of $100 per day.  Tongue

Luckily for us Bitcoiners, nobody can tell us how much we can use, because we control our own currency.  Wink This is just another reminder of what true Financial freedom are supposed to be.  Grin

Another coin that the government can turn to dust overnight. Zimbabwe should have learned the lesson...

Hmmpf, they should learn from us, 1 bank note per person per day, the socialist way of redistribution of wealth: quotas and lines, LONG waiting lines, so many and so long, you won't have time to do anything else which fits perfectly with their system, as there won't be any full jobs worth doing anyway.

100$ per day at the ATM? Try 2$. That's the reality here. And guess what, the money only lasts about 15 minutes, the ATMs get refilled about twice a day. Your best hope is to do the line at the bank for your daily banknote. Of course, most transactions are done with debit card, physical money is only rarely used in things like the obsolete (private) public transport city services.

To me, the only reason any government has to issue a coin, is to manipulate it and do things like printing to fit their ill conceived budgets, rather than reduce expenses.

Rather than creating fiat currencies, they should be abolishing them and just adopt bitcoin. Otherwise they are planning something shady, that only ends with MORE poverty. Indeed if you start adopting Austrian school of economy ideas, first thing you do is abolish fractional reserve banking and CLOSE the central bank. This forces the ever corrupt politicians into more transparency, no garbage budgets anymore.

Well, lets just see how long they take to repeat history. One would think 40 centuries should be long enough for humans to learn, but alas...
2425  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We should answer the important questions to increase Bitcoin adoption on: November 14, 2019, 05:33:33 PM
~~ Is Bitcoin more convenient to use?
Yes.
~~ Is Bitcoin cheaper to use and where will that solve problems?
Online.
~~ Is Bitcoin safer to use than traditional payment options? Where will it be safer to use?
Yes, online.
~~ Is Bitcoin easy to use (How can we make it easier to use?)
Improve the help section of the wallet so new comers understand it.
~~ Is Bitcoin faster than other payment options? (Where can we apply it to solve problems with other slow payment options?)
Yes, in things like wire transfer or online payment.
~~ Are we using Bitcoin for the correct applications? (Trading or Currency) What should we focus on?
Currency. You can always trade your currencies (ie. forex), but that is besides the point.


There are some issues regarding "instant" use in physical situations (the infamous pay for coffee use case), which is what LN is attempting to address. The success of this idea will largely depend on the wallets implementing it. But for most common uses, the way traditional bitcoin is, is quite good enough.

If it were me, i would default the wallets to 1 sat/B tx fees. And optionally add some button or setting in case the user rarely needs the transfer to process "fast" (and with RBF you can always do that after the initial broadcast, ie. later). If you honestly and seriously analyze your online transactions, most can easily wait a day or two. I know some traditional methods involving bank wire transfer can take longer than that and merchants usually wait until that is cleared before shipping. Compared to that Bitcoin is instant. And most of the time, 1 Sat/B transactions get confirmed within an hour or two... At some point they will allow 0.1 sat/B, when that comes i would switch wallets defaults to it.

I don't like the wallets that try to guess network traffic and pick a fee that would "probably" get confirmed within a block or three. Some at least give you the option to manually input your tx fee, which to me, should always be the smallest non zero value. Especially after LN comes in widespread use for the "instant coffee payment" scenario.

This is to debunk the myth that "Bitcoin transactions are too expensive", no they are not, you just didn't set the proper fee, silly. If you are tipping someone some satoshis, you DON'T want your wallet picking a fee for you...
2426  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Permission to Use Bitcoin Logo on: November 14, 2019, 05:12:16 PM
Even if the Bitcoin logo was indeed copyrighted, would you need permission if its only for personal use? I think if you are only going to wear this t-shirt and not sell it for a profit then I don't think you need the permission from the author.

Like the above poster has mentioned. The @Bitcoin twitter is not actually promoting Bitcoin but Bitcoin Cash instead. It was bought out by Roger Ver. The logos there might be the BCH logos which might be copyrighted instead of the BTC which shouldn't.

I've seen people wear these T-shirts everywhere pretty much and I am pretty sure they aren't infringing copyright, its actually good because it promotes cryptocurrencies and a good conversation starter.


EDIT: Did some research after this thread and it turns out that its illegal to print anything that is copyrighted even if its for personal use. Never knew this. However I am pretty sure the BTC logo is not copyrighted.

According to US law, anything you make is immediately copyrighted. In the past, it was necessary to use the © (Copyright) symbol, but its not the case anymore. This is the very reason Lawrence Lessig came with a legal way to "Opt out" of this and that is Creative Commons.

I'm not sure who and where the bitcoin logo was made. The Symbol made it to unicode in 2017, so its just like another letter: ₿ (BTC).

This work is ineligible for copyright and therefore in the public domain because it consists entirely of information that is common property and contains no original authorship.
2427  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do Hong Kong protesters use Btc for anything? on: November 14, 2019, 04:56:55 PM
Honestly haven't seem news like Hong Kong-ers dumping their Hong Kong Dollars for bitcoin or something like that, and I don't see any "help HK protests by donating bitcoin" articles either. The help they're asking is mostly by signing petitions and such.

With that said, I can see bitcoin being really helpful if certain Hong Kong citizens are wanting to leave the country. They can temporarily buy bitcoin, and convert it back to the local currency of the country they're moving to.

The HKD is probably too good a coin for them to bother, but your comment is the best. If you have a family fortune, rather than bother with banks, move it all to bitcoin while keeping the spare minimum for the trip, and at destination only exchange what you really need for daily expenses.

Leaving is the wisest option, the central government isn't going to back out, protesters have no chance in China, just see the rest of the country*, this is where HK is headed and they can't stop it.

* Except in Taiwan, because there are Americans in the way.
2428  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: An investor lost $24 million worth of bitcoin on: November 14, 2019, 04:49:35 PM
A Crypto investor Michael Terpin lost roughly 1,5oo bitcoins on January 7, 2018, after falling victim to a SIM swap attack, The Wall Street Journal reported.

January 2018? Talk about ancient...

SIM attacks are nothing new, it is but another attack vector. People should act smarter, but its quite the opposite. One tells them to stop using windows our put wallets in smartphones, and yet they keep doing it, until they get hit and blame it on Bitcoin, when in reality it was their attitude that prompted it.

Google dependency also didn't help, maybe if he just used another email provider...
2429  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Daily Living on: November 14, 2019, 04:41:01 PM
I have been living (surviving) from what little bitcoin income i managed to obtain online for the last couple of years. Living with bitcoin is simple: You only spend what you must, and keep (hold/save) the rest. Since almost no one accepts bitcoin directly here (despite misleading news), this means exchanging it prior to going out to buy.

This is probably unsuitable for most people, unless you live in a "subsidized" environment such as with your family where you wouldn't need to pay for food or rent, or a country with a broken economy...

Ideally a "proper" job (hundreds, instead of tens of USD equivalent a month) with bitcoin payment would suffice, or fiat paid and you exchange all you can. Yes i know in rich countries you are supposed to earn thousands of USD/month to live, but lets ignore the rich...
2430  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should Bitcoin lower its carbon footprint? on: November 13, 2019, 07:18:52 PM
It is 2019, there are climate protests nearly every day all around the world. Meanwhile bitcoin is consuming more energy than a small country

In my opinion the bitcoin network needs to take responsibility and change so that it has a smaller footprint, it just isn't responsible to burn such a large amount of energy for such little utility. I honestly felt a little ashamed when I read that for a single transaction Bitcoin uses the amount of energy that could power an US home for 22 days! [1] This number will only be going up as the price rises.

Yes, I know this energy is securing the network, which is of course very important.
But shouldn't we try to find a way to minimize this energy consumption. Shouldn't we be looking for alternative methods? Maybe even something like Proof of Stake? There has to be a better way.

Or do you think that electricity consumption is not bad in itself, just the way it is made. eg. If all of bitcoin was powered by solar, it would be fine.


Bitcoin is not consuming anything, it is the miners hoping to reap the last profits, while the whole mining ecosystems gradually becomes less and less profitable, which fixes "the problem" by itself (no intervention).

Furthermore not all mining is using energy from carbon emissions. Many farms are using hydroelectric power, which in some places is plenty and overabundant.

There is no need to "take responsibility", and no one can, its code running a program as intended, and its working beautifully even outside its scope of execution. Bitcoin doesn't care if many or few people mine it, humans do, because its profitable, and they will stop, when it isn't (soon). Then you'll end with a lot of unused electrical capacity, which will come handy for the next stage in electric vehicle use...

And, if/when humanity manages to conquer fusion nuclear generation, price of energy will drop so hard the economy will have to reshape itself (and may even bring bitcoin mining back to becoming profitable for a little while).

Anyway you shouldn't be thinking "intervene" and just wait it out. The market is solving the issue by itself. Besides, Bitcoin was designed so it can't be "intervened" so easily, those very miners and nodes have a say on the matter, for every tiny little change done to its code.
2431  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China’s Digital Currency Will Allow Consumers ‘Controllable Anonymity’ on: November 13, 2019, 07:09:40 PM
Obviously not true, "control" is the one thing they don't want losing, much less to indentured peasants... This is a talk like it was monero, most people seem to be unaware that with Monero your transactions are not anonymous unless you use a specific (cli only wallet) setting. If China adopted XMR then yes, it would be true. I don't think they cloned Monero, but even if they did they would have to release the code with their modifications for the community to verify it, as most likely such "anonymity" can't possibly include "The State". Which renders the whole thing useless in the first place.

Venezuela has yet to release the modifications done to Dash for Petro. It is an obligation by Venezuelan law, but they are ignoring it (laws are overrated here anyway, what the leader says its obeyed, period). Take Dash, change its name, run a couple of nodes in a single datacenter and, oh, make sure it has infinite supply, and you get an idea of what that coin is. Oh and no wallets, only a single online wallet.

One would think the Chinese would do better, and i think they probably will, but not in that regard. Anonymity is not something a police state needs, or is willing to concede giving. Back in my country, anonymity is forbidden (in the constitution, no less), imagine that... You'd think the Chinese have more freedoms in their "communist" constitution?

Right to Anonymity i think is even a constitutional right in America, but unconstitutional here. What is it in China?

Speaking of controlling anonymity, you can already do that with Bitcoin. Disclose your wallet address if you want. Maybe politicians should, or NGOs, or anyone that would want their wallets audited for whatever reason.
2432  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it possible that Bitcoin becomes quiescent? on: November 13, 2019, 06:54:21 PM
In the year 2130 all of the Bitcoins will have been mined and the only reward at this point is transaction fees,if most people are using Bitcoin just as a store of wealth, then there are very few transactions, which means there is very little reward for mining and so a lot of computers would pull out of the Bitcoin network. Would this be a problem? If large Bitcoin transactions occured sparingly in 2130 and beyond, would the Bitcoin concept still work?

This is again the incomprehension of working with deflationary currency, it is the disease the Chicago school of economy has installed in most people brain's, so they can fear it and let "their model" "work.

Well no.

Deflationary money is money that doesn't lose value over time, therefore you don't need "a bank paying you interest". What you keep yourself, increases its purchasing power overtime, so you get an automatic incentive to NOT spend what you don't need (contrary to consumerism).

Once you DO decide to invest or spend, the money comes from a solid source. In the current dominant mentality, they'd rather you get in debt to buy as many things as you can, and then slave yourself paying it all back many times higher than if you had waited and saved to buy the thing.

One thing with deflation is you don't need banks as much, and banks should not be operating under fractional reserve, ie, fictional money that doesn't exist anywhere but is counted as it it where (90% of fiat money doesn't exist. maybe more, its a legalized ponzi scheme).

In the end, without the banks or the debt, you save your own money earned working, and trust that i will hold its purchasing value no matter what. And if you decide to spend it, you spend it and that's it. Austrian economists don't need fractional reserve, and therefore no central banks, and of course no fiat currency. They originally advocated for gold, but i think Bitcoin fits even better.

Fiat currency you want to get rid of it ASAP, as its constantly losing value. Bitcoin you keep as much as you can. and only use what you must.
2433  Other / Politics & Society / Re: POPULATION on: November 13, 2019, 06:28:29 PM
you think that the complex machines of nature that are far more complex than the ones intelligent mankind makes, are made by "blind unthinking evolution."

Yes. Evolution. The thing that often throws people is the timescale involved. The evidence is that life on Earth started at least 3.7 billion years ago. And it has been subject to natural selection (plus countless random, mostly negative but occasionally positive) mutations since then. It's not as if, as someone stated on one of these threads 'man came out of a monkey's ass'.

The problem with your kind of thinking about the age of the earth and universe is, there is all kinds of evidence that the universe is much shorter. Some of the evidence points at 10,000 years. Since you can do Internet searches that show this, and since you can get deeper by studying the young-earth evidence with those who explain it, believing in a old-universe view is a choice... not reality of an old-universe.

In other words, whatever looks good, and however you want to apply the evidence, is like making a choice to believe whatever you want.

The only way to know how old the universe is, is to believe the witnesses who were there, and recorded their witnessing.

The first two chapters of the Bible were witness records copied by Moses from text in Egyptian libraries about 3,500 years ago. These texts probably have crumbled away with age long ago. But they might still be hidden in some lost Egytian library somewhere... hidden under the desert sands of Egypt.

You can't apply today's evidence without knowing the past parameters that the evidence needs to be applied by. Maybe they are applying the evidence in a wrong way. We won't know until we have witnesses or a time viewer/machine.

Cool

You have such a machine, its called a telescope. Yes, indeed, whatever you see in the sky is already very. very old, much older than 10 thousand years. And the more you "zoom" in, the farther in the past you pry (not just further away).

Time and Space is relative. You think you could make things simple for you to understand it, but the universe does not care, it simply is.

Humans have this bad habit of destroying written history, from the old Chinese emperors, and the typical invasion armies, they can't simply stand seeing thousand years old stuff. Even modern Americans destroyed humanity's oldest writings when they ransacked and destroyed Baghdad's library "for lulz" (and some profit), just like the medievals, and the barbarians, or the romans of the past. It is a miracle "something" remains, as distorted as it may be, from impulsive selection, and several mistranslations (and even oral tradition).

What little remains is because it got buried before conflagration, such as Pompei, which unfortunately was uncovered and is quickly disappearing.

10 thousand years is nonsense. The Earth alone may be 20 million years old, of course most of its history it has been a barren lifeless planet incapable of sustaining life. Formation of this "Solar" system is estimated to be 4.5 billion years old, and where and when was this system formed?

Humanity existence is but a glimpse in the history of "this" universe. We could again ask the question of, where and when this universe got formed... And it doesn't matter what you believe in, those things won't be changing, at least not "here" on this "Universe".

Besides watching, there is also a proven method of time travel, you can travel to the future, but there is no returning. Simply travel to speeds close to the speed of light. Its already known and documented, Einstein's theory worked, as alien as it sounded.

Do you think reality starts with humans and ends with humans? Yours maybe (in your lifetime for that matter), but not the Universe's.

We know Earth is going to be destroyed about 2 billion years from now. I doubt there will be any "humans" left to witness it, either we would have evolved or most likely gone extinct. Dinosaurs lived on this planet, probably much longer than humans ever will. They lived around 200 MILLION years, where puny "humans" have barely been existing for 200 THOUSAND years at most, but you say its just 10, so i guess the other 190 thousand years they were too busy throwing sticks and stones at each other and living in caves etc. The nearest predecessor to humans took a couple of MILLION years to evolve into "human".

We don't know why things work the way they do in this plane existence, but they do.

10 thousand years of recorded history, but only because the Jews were more zealous to keep their oral tradition going, AND escaped being wiped by others. A sect from them ended funding Christianity, which in turn compiled (the parts they liked) into that book already coming from oral tradition from different languages than the ones used by whoever wrote them, and then again translated, and translated, and translated... and re-translated...

Did you ever stopped to ask what language that Moses actually spoke? If you want to get a bit closer, get to the source, the jews, don't be dismayed by the contradictions you may uncover. Remember this, the bible is not the source, its the copy, a really, really bad copy. Its valuable, but to a limited extent. Even the jew scripture is already altered, by their oral tradition since the times of Moses to the times of "Jesus", AND language changes (or do you think thousands of years would preserve the language intact?). And what language you think the contemporaries of Jesus were speaking? and their followers? Which was the official language (roman empire, remember?) Greek? Latin? Aremaic? a mixture? What about Hebrew?

Read this:
The name Jesus is derived from the Latin Iesus, a transliteration of the Greek Ἰησοῦς (Iesous). The Greek form is a rendering of the Hebrew ישוע‎ (Yeshua), a variant of the earlier name יהושע‎ (Yehoshua), or in English, "Joshua", meaning "Yah saves". This was also the name of Moses' successor and of a Jewish high priest in the Old Testament.
If they made this giant mess with just THE name (everyone calling him Jesus is misnaming him) imagine what they did with the rest...

Have you ever tried reading the other books that were taken out from the bible, written by the same authors? Have you ever read Jesus "Lord's prayer" translated from Aramaic? You are in for a shock, given that Christianity is supposed to be based on it... But what's written (current) bibles, is VERY distorted. Jesus gave good teachings, and once you read a more faithful translation, you can understand how Christianity came to be. But the Christians that came after, well, history repeats.., just a century or two later whey were feuding over their founder coming in the flesh or in the spirit. That pissed the roman emperor, the "trinity" was born and that schism was solved...
2434  Other / Politics & Society / Re: a society question about prison time on: November 13, 2019, 06:39:43 AM
having seen prison systems fail to punish people due to re-offend rates
having seen prison systems fail common sense by giving smaller crimes harsher times.. and harsher crimes smaller times

knowing the costs of incarcerations costing alot ($£30k a year per inmate in many cases)

what views do people have for a better system
would it be instead of putting people with drug/alcohol issues where no other person was harmed. put into rehab
would it be for financial crimes people made to repay financially.
EG made to do volunteer work for just $500 a month social security($£6k) and the other $£24k going back to victims

i think what im basically saying is if you know it can cost $£30k a year for punishment. how many years would a particular crimes punishment deserve being spent on it. and what 'service' (cells,rehab,community,other) would you spend the funds on

so imagine you had your own island/continent and had the ability to write the laws and consequences. what would they be

What to do with the extreme crimes? Did you know my country has a theoretical maximum penalty of 30 years? You could pull out a terrorist attack killing thousands, and you would still get 30 years. I remember a case of a man who raped and killed a woman, he got the same sentence, but after 16 years he was released on "good conduct". First thing he tried to do was rape a prostitute (prostitution is not a crime here), back to prison for some months i guess...

I think there are cases where both forced labor and perhaps capital punishment is required. For the lesser crimes your ideas are not bad at all. We have absurd things like people getting years imprisoned over downloading some movie, that is ridiculous.

For those that get "life sentences" capital punishment could be considered. Rape could be dealt bible style with some good old fashioned castration, perhaps only for repeat offenders (or more than one victim without doubts).

I don't know if "penal colonies" could have some use in certain circumstances, for "medium" or "light" crimes. I know in some Nordic country they have what essentially looks like a resort, they are sent to some island and live kinda like that Prisoner sci-fi show (without the interrogations). On the opposite you get countries like mine where the prisons are so hellish, you either become super criminal in there or die, period. So get caught in a protest and your chance of coming out like a blood thirsty killer is high. And yeah, they throw everyone together in conditions that would be too extreme to tell here.

Perhaps some are suited for rural labor, tending a farm and things like that.

I don't know if people could truly rehab or not given different conditions, in the first place they should be separated from society to prevent them (physically) harming people, then comes the next part of what to do with them. Some things like tax evasion should not be putting people behind bars, that is plain stupid (same as copyright infringers).
2435  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ulrich Klopfer found with 2246 preserved fetal remains on: November 13, 2019, 06:07:51 AM
I mean when an abortion happens I highly doubt that many states classify this as remains and force the medical provider to give them back in some sort of way. Even found an article on the matter titled "Dead Featuses are not 'Remains''' -
You see, apart abortion and human aspect of it, there is case of ownership of those parts.
Legal definitions are clear, everything your body produces, belongs to you. It is your physical possession.
If at some point, you are being misled about the future fate of those pieces than a widow for a legal case can be opened.
That's why some states decided to introduce those cremation laws, to prevent legal chaos.
That's how it is when people mess with basic rights, like the right to live. Hard for me to think more about all this.
If hell exists it resembles our world... like a mirror. 

So he was keeping the (discarded?) fetuses, but burning them would somehow make it better? Maybe its for the best that he kept them all, as a message reminding others. No one will never know how many abortions do occur in this world, as they are "erased" from people's mind.

This was a better registry than some cold numbers written in paper. In fact it would make for a nice decoration in the entrance of an abortion clinic, maybe that would change people's mind before going thru...

The State allows the procedure, it seems he just skipped some red tape and got suspended from that. 18 hours of mandated education? Hmmpf leave it to politicians to dumb out things...

There are countries that allow this, any practicing medic would technically be carrying an execution. What to do with the "remains?" is probably a legal loop hole he found and used. Taking it on him when the system allowed it in the first place is hypocrisy at best.

If you ban abortions, abortions will be performed at even shadier and more dangerous conditions, or with proper organized crime already selling the "product"...

True, they should have not gotten pregnant in the first place. But that education seems to need to start when they are 12 years old, and that in itself sparks another controversy. Don't teach them anything and things like this happen...
2436  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin Faucets and mining websites are really paying? on: November 13, 2019, 03:40:31 AM
I just wanted to chime in my 2 satoshi's...
The average faucet seems to be paying out <50 sat (source: a quick browse trough the list of faucethub, coinpot, freebitco.in,...).

This means you'll have to make about 2 million claims to "get" 1 BTC.
If you incorporate the fact that at least half of the faucets are dry, scams, dissapear, or have hidden their claim button so good nobody can find it), you'll need to visit at least 4 million faucets to get 1 BTC.

Opening the faucet, filling in all those captcha's, you addresss, claim, popups, even more captcha's.. I estimate it takes 2 minutes to make a claim.

So 1 claiming 1 BTC would be equal to spending 8 million minutes =~ 133.000 hours.

So, with the current BTC rate, you'll make about ~7 cents per hour... If the minimum wage in your country is higher than 7 dollarcents per hour (substract the energy you used for that hour of claiming, substract the cost of decent internet, substract the cost of the device you use to claim), it would be wiser to get an IRL job and convert some of your wages into btc rather than spending your time claiming from faucets.

That being said: there are "real" online faucets that aren't a scam (they "pay" 7 cents per hour)... I wouldn't trust those telegram bots tough, i don't get their businessmodel, i don't see where they get their money from, so i don't think they can operate without scamming people.

Sometimes i wonder if humans solving the captcha isn't more valuable to them than what few satoshis they give? Yes i am aware of services that pay humans to solve captchas, which defeats the whole point... I guess the whole captcha thing just increased spamming costs a bit.

Unfortunately i live in that country you mention... It makes for a hard choice when a full time job will net you 2¢ per hour (not a joke).

But yes, you can earn more doing some other things rather than faucets. I know people that try to do all they can with their internet, still better than the alternative... Try microtasks, or even ad clicking (again another model that feeds back itself...).

I wouldn't bother with "mining" websites, at all. The only good mining is asic mining, and maybe gpu mining for some altcoins, but thats about it. You can probably make more buying and holding, if you have spare money to invest that can be put aside for a long time.
2437  Other / Off-topic / Re: Apple Announces iOS 13 !! Here are the features on: November 13, 2019, 03:24:39 AM
It took them 13 MAJOR versions to add a dark theme? This is definitely not innovation, more like involution. Gates is not there Woz is not there, what remains? A brand? Inertia from their followers who can't look elsewhere?

And, several people report these updates just make their existing devices do less than if they kept their old versions, so yeah, its just bloat. I don't think this company has any hopes, its only a fashion brand thing in America, everybody else uses Android.

It is sad because with this wimp competition the likes of Google don't really try hard anymore either, they have no need to, no threats in sight...
2438  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Small Mining farm on: November 13, 2019, 02:55:53 AM
Hi, thanks for your personal sharing  Cheesy

The location at West Malaysia. Yes, Malaysia have a tropical climate everyday  Sad
We did a good insulation and exhaust system in our farms to maintain a good environment for the machines.

Wink Wink Wink

Its not that hard once you learn how to control humidity. Hint: The exhaust of the miners...

Another way to ignore the humidity problem entirely is going with immersion, but that's a whole bag of expertise.

Ambient temp is overrated, i have seen it working with ambient 40°C, so 30°C ish or so is just fine. Its just a matter of moving air, and preferably filter it to reduce maintenance (or just do periodic scheduled cleaning maintenance, if your labor is cheap).
2439  Other / Off-topic / Re: Self-sufficiency is the real prosperity. on: November 13, 2019, 12:28:36 AM
Many who live in "real rural areas" are self sufficient in alot of things:
— They produce their own foods, such as meat, milk, seeds, fruits, vegetables etc..
— Many use natural water like, well water, streams, rain etc.
— Most are homeowners and many build their homes themselves.  
— They seem to live long. Rural areas tend to have too many old people. The short lifespan in rural areas is probably myth.
— They don't joke with environmental cleanliness. Everything appears to be changing recently.
— Most young people have migrated to urban areas or cities. I guess it's due to greed and laziness. Tv, movies, radio have taught them that sitting lazily in offices/shops for hours is easier and better.





Over dependence on government is not really prosperity in my opinion.

I am seriously considering rural living or something in between (rural and nomadic lifestyle)


Well you can now have TV, movies, radio... computers, internet, and telecommuting in rural areas, its not like you have to live in the city, but i guess its a matter of choice. If you live in a city but manage to find a source of income that doesn't need constant physical presence, you can take the chance and move out.

The government is another matter.
2440  Other / Off-topic / Re: Electric Cars and The Future on: November 13, 2019, 12:17:34 AM

You better get ready to see a huge lot of very luxurious EV on the road because all it's going to take for someone to pick between a Model S and a Porsche Taycan 4S is to sit in the two cars. Actually, it's going to be soon super easy to see who never sat in a Porsche Taycan: those driving a Model S.

The more the merrier. This is all in accordance to Elon Musk's plan to move humanity into electric cars. He did release his own electric motors for everyone, even Porsche, to use.

That said you have to take a look at how long it took Porsche to come out with something pure electric. The Model S is kinda old already, been out for 7 years already, it was meant as a Sedan type, nothing even remotely resembling a sports top of the line car (that's what the Roadster is for). The fact that even today the S can still compete with that new Porsche should tell you something about Tesla... Lets see if that Taycan can hold its flag 7 tears from now.

Yes i know Porsche, i like its classic sports car line, not its SUV line (i find those aesthetically horrible, actually).

Tesla has followed a top to bottom approach, from the most expensive speed cars to something cheap enough for the masses to commute "in style". It's still getting there, and i bet the bare bottom will be dominated by Chinese electric compacts anyway.

Perhaps then all the Tesla line will lower in price. An used Tesla S can be found sometimes cheaper than new model 3s.

I expect the other luxury sport car makers to chime in. A Ferrari with its signature whistle would be very nice, especially now that its quiet enough to hear it clearly.

Besides, Porsche did not send a car to Mars. Smiley That was an actual Tesla Roadster, the very thing that started it all...
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