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I made a comment about this in another thread and I'm somewhat shocked that nobody responded specifically to my post by calling me an idiot.
I believe in evolution in itself is true as demonstrated by an overwhelming amount of evidence, including ring species. I would allow a caveat for something I would dub 'involution.' Whereas evolution assumes that evolved physical states lead to evolved conscious states, involution would be the reverse, where evolved conscious states lead to evolved physical states. I personally believe that the simultaneous occurrence of both (i.e. evolved conscious states and evolved physical states manifest in tandem) is the most likely.
But speaking in terms of evolution, I think humans are out of place. Yes, I recognize that our genome is very highly correlated with primates' genomes. But, I can't help but think that humans might not fit in with natural selection.
Humans are weird. We're almost hairless, for example, and we are unlike any other species in the sense that we don't live in harmony in our niche. We're parasites. Yes, I know there are other parasites, but other parasites don't seem to pose a threat to virtually every living thing on this planet.
Going back to the hairless thing...
Apes, chimps, and other primates live outdoors. Their hairy coats provide them protection from the elements and give them warmth. So, why are we virtually hairless? Yes, we have hair, but not in any suitable amount to protect us from the elements.
Being virtually hairless would suggest that primates lived indoors before they lost their hair. If primates could sustain themselves indoors long enough such that they didn't need their hair to protect themselves from the elements, then the hair would lose its necessity. But, WTF? Why? It seems very implausible that a group of primates would travel to such cold environments, find and/or create shelter indoors, survive that way for so many generations and were able to sustain themselves for so long that generational intellect developed to the point where they could, for example, create fire and no longer need their hairy coats. And, if they didn't travel to such cold environments, then why would they lose their hair anyway? They'd be in warm enough environments where they didn't need to move indoors, didn't need to develop the intellect to make fire, etc.
The various Ice Ages that have occurred throughout history could be a possible explanation for this need to adapt. If the world became so cold that even primates with hairy coats were threatened by the elements, then the need to move indoors would arise. But, would they really have survived for so long (generations upon generations) that this evolved intellect would have developed anyway?
I dunno. It all seems very weird to me. Discuss. All "idiot" comments are welcome. All I know is that DNA/RNA replication is like working a copy machine. A copy machine attempts to make an identical copy, but inevitably, every 'copy' has a few noticeable changes here and there, and when you make copies of copies, and then copies of copies of copies, these changes become more apparent over time. And, it takes many, many, many generations (excluding something like a frame-shift in DNA) for radical changes to become apparent.
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I tell people to take $25-$100, buy some bitcoins with it, and act like its a lottery ticket for the future but with very good odds.
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Above $10 for sure folks.
It is inevitable ... people hoarding. Reward dropping, ASIC coming showing huge faith in BTC system and its viability etc.
When ASICs hit, I expect the price to drop hard until we reach a point where the value gained from mining with ASICS makes ROI about 100-200 days. |
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gensen,
I think you're the scammer buddy.
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I just had a newbie pm me to confirm that gensen was a scam. I will wait before posting the pm publicly, but I did write back to him to suggest that he post his evidence in this thread.
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I have tons of junk silver but sadly I dont take LTC
Do you have an account on btc-e.com? 6 confirms would take approximately 15 minutes. I could deposit straight to your LTC deposit address and you could convert to BTC and withdraw. I could do the same myself, but I want to buy something with LTC. Crazy eh?  I know me, and I know if I converted to BTC I'd just stash them considering what I dropped on BFL's new products. |
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Bump. C'mon, nobody wants some LTC?
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As far as I'm concerned, you're both "conspiracy nuts". Do you speculate that the moon landings didn't really happen as well? I speculate that no one is anywhere near creating a large scale, practical quantum computer. At best, I'd say they're at the level of the pre-ENIAC computers. Another 10 years, maybe we'll have the quantum computing equivalent of ENIAC (e.g. you have to hand program it for each calculation, it will be massive in size, requiring cooling and power that are insane, and various portions of the device frequently fail and need to be replaced/fixed). In fifty years, when I'm a freaking old man, perhaps I'll be reminiscing about how "back when I was young, we had 256-bit encryption and thought it wouldn't get cracked in our lifetime!"
Call me a 'conspiracy nut' if you will. But, I think the difference between me and a typical conspiracy nut is that although I believe in what you might call 'nutty' stuff, those things truly don't bother me, nor do they give me a negative perspective on the world, nor am I easily influenced by the opinions of others. E.g. "OMG! A YouTube video on aliens! This means it must be true!" I form my own assumptions, thanks. I'd like to remind you that the only reason that you believe in quantum computing is because you've read or heard about it, not because you actually understand exactly how it works, and not because you've ever seen one. Great evidence -- word of mouth. "OMG a 128 qubit quantum computer! That means it must be the most powerful quantum computer in existence! They even said so!" Give me a break. You're guessing as much as I am. As far as the moon goes, I believe we went there. But, I do find it highly 'interesting' that we haven't been back there since. Here's something else that's 'nutty' that I believe in. I believe in evolution, but I do not believe humans evolved from primates. Humans appear to be a unique case that defies the logic of evolutionary theory. Call me 'stupid' or 'retarded' or 'nutty.' I truly don't give a shit. So, by all means, call me a nut. See if I care. I think you're closed-minded and making more nutty assumptions than I am. Do you care? No? I guess we're at an impasse then. I just find it quite ironic that the stranger we find reality to be, the more likely most people are to assume that they know it all. Let me put it this way, what's more likely: The USA government has quantum computers and are breaking any mainstream encryption whenever they feel like it. Meanwhile, no other country has come close (because we rock here in the US and are WAY better at this stuff -- never mind that DES was based off a dumbed-down Lucifer cipher that was mostly created in South Africa by IBM employees, IIRC). And the only people who have done anything with quantum computing and published something about it are doing stuff like factoring 15 into 3 * 5. So the US gov't is basically several orders of magnitude ahead of anyone else. Also, quantum computing would require some seriously advanced manufacturing and other technology, and most of the manufacturing is no longer even done in the US (e.g. cars, motors, injection molded plastic, motherboards, etc. are nearly all done somewhere else where it's cheaper, to the point where the US basically has no real ability to do the necessary work on their own). There are a ton of other things that would also have to be in place for a real QC to exist, but let's just stop for now. OR: no one is anywhere near having created a fully functional quantum computer that can be used for actual work like cracking 256-bit, 128-bit, 2048-bit, etc. encryption. Everything being done right now is at a very theoretical level, with a few attempts at practical applications that haven't really been too useful so far. I do not say that it's absolutely impossible for a super secret quantum computer to exist somewhere that is so classified that the only people that know about it have said nothing (and of course none of the espionage groups from other countries know about it). However, I do think that such a scenario is HIGHLY unlikely. You would have thousands (or more) people working on the creation of this secret quantum computer, or at least the various parts of it, and either everything is so compartmentalized that only a very select few know about the real purpose of the design, or everyone is being very good about not talking. The Manhattan Project was the biggest "secrete success" of the US in many ways, and yet the Soviets and most other advanced nations basically had everything they needed to know within a few years. Quantum computing has the potential to be bigger than the Manhattan Project. It's just like the moon landings. For those to have been faked is technically possible, but the number of people involved that would have to have kept their mouths shut is ludicrous. Of course, I've also got a brother who works in the aerospace industry who told me that everything he knows/does in that area suggests that the moon landings were indeed real. Oh, and there are reflectors set up on the moon that scientists aim lasers at to test distance and some other stuff. So why haven't we gone back? Because it turns out the moon is a pretty darn boring place. The dirt on the surface is largely worthless, and the cost to get to the moon is prohibitive. I think we'll eventually go to the moon again, but not for a while yet. A manned voyage to Mars would be much more interesting, IMO. Nice false dichotomy. Also, with regards to the moon and it being a "pretty darn boring place," let me ask you this. Have you actually seen pictures of the moon? Like, you know, in color? With all the blues, greens, browns, and earthy tones? The moon is simply not a boring, flat, pale-gray sphere. There's a little phenomenon called 'whitewashing' that happens when the sun shines on the moon. Photographers and astronomers have known about this for a long time. The moon is immensely colorful with chasms and mountains many miles deep/high. And shit, if the cost to get to the friggin' moon is prohibitive, then what do you call the cost to get to Mars? |
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Friend of mine was military intelligence with top secrete clearance. While he did not divulge anything to me (rightly so) he did say the world was a lot more mundane than what people would like to believe...
The truth right there. There is no secret society or aliens controlling everything, it's just us brothers and sisters. That's what they would like you to believe ... government / military technology is MUCH more advanced than civilian tech. They have quantum computers by now already for like 10 years I would speculate. Nice troll thread BTW. Looks like the joint has someone else smoking his product that creates a "sci-fi is real TODAY" mindset. When Intel starts releasing quantum processors, that's when the government will have had quantum computers for a few years. Right now, no one is even close to real-world QC "chips".  to you as well. As far as I'm concerned, you're both "conspiracy nuts". Do you speculate that the moon landings didn't really happen as well? I speculate that no one is anywhere near creating a large scale, practical quantum computer. At best, I'd say they're at the level of the pre-ENIAC computers. Another 10 years, maybe we'll have the quantum computing equivalent of ENIAC (e.g. you have to hand program it for each calculation, it will be massive in size, requiring cooling and power that are insane, and various portions of the device frequently fail and need to be replaced/fixed). In fifty years, when I'm a freaking old man, perhaps I'll be reminiscing about how "back when I was young, we had 256-bit encryption and thought it wouldn't get cracked in our lifetime!" Call me a 'conspiracy nut' if you will. But, I think the difference between me and a typical conspiracy nut is that although I believe in what you might call 'nutty' stuff, those things truly don't bother me, nor do they give me a negative perspective on the world, nor am I easily influenced by the opinions of others. E.g. "OMG! A YouTube video on aliens! This means it must be true!" I form my own assumptions, thanks. I'd like to remind you that the only reason that you believe in quantum computing is because you've read or heard about it, not because you actually understand exactly how it works, and not because you've ever seen one. Great evidence -- word of mouth. "OMG a 128 qubit quantum computer! That means it must be the most powerful quantum computer in existence! They even said so!" Give me a break. You're guessing as much as I am. As far as the moon goes, I believe we went there. But, I do find it highly 'interesting' that we haven't been back there since. Here's something else that's 'nutty' that I believe in. I believe in evolution, but I do not believe humans evolved from primates. Humans appear to be a unique case that defies the logic of evolutionary theory. Call me 'stupid' or 'retarded' or 'nutty.' I truly don't give a shit. So, by all means, call me a nut. See if I care. I think you're closed-minded and making more nutty assumptions than I am. Do you care? No? I guess we're at an impasse then. I just find it quite ironic that the stranger we find reality to be, the more likely most people are to assume that they know it all. |
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"Fan-funkin'-tastic"
"Get up or go home"
"Get up or get down"
"Where every bit gets a little bit better"
"It's about damn time!"
"Hosting on steroids"
"We ROFL at the competition"
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Friend of mine was military intelligence with top secrete clearance. While he did not divulge anything to me (rightly so) he did say the world was a lot more mundane than what people would like to believe...
The truth right there. There is no secret society or aliens controlling everything, it's just us brothers and sisters. That's what they would like you to believe ... government / military technology is MUCH more advanced than civilian tech. They have quantum computers by now already for like 10 years I would speculate. Nice troll thread BTW. Looks like the joint has someone else smoking his product that creates a "sci-fi is real TODAY" mindset. When Intel starts releasing quantum processors, that's when the government will have had quantum computers for a few years. Right now, no one is even close to real-world QC "chips". |
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Free bump for you. You're making me wish I didn't use my for-spending BTC for BFL's new ASICs. I would give you an opening bid in a heartbeat!
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Smoothies super awesome silver for LTC auction https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=90199.0 (had to give him the bump, I love seeing LTC stuff in the marketplace section) makes me want to buy some silver with LTC. I have 2866 2916 2966 LTC and am mining solo with .07m/hash to give you an idea of the rate at which I acquire them. I'm interested in silver dimes, quarters, morgan half-dollars, etc. If anyone somehow has 1/2g of gold they'd like to part with, I'd actually be more interested in that. ShireSilver, I'm lookin' at you! Unless you're extremely reputable, I will expect the seller to ship first. I will be the judge of "reputable." So, whatcha got for me? |
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lry.
Personally, I'm not familiar with much else beyond top secrete clearance. My own clearance was Secret. A cursory search though does not reveal 14 levels above top secrete.
Maybe those levels are secret. In which case you aren't supposed to know about them. Your friend sucks at his job.
He got out of government work about a decade ago. He said he wouldn't tell me anything that he knew was supposed to be kept confidential because he knew I would likely tell someone sooner or later. But he did say that it was because of the things he couldn't tell me that he got out of government work. Btw, I'm sorry about your buddy, the driver  Gardner? Don't worry that retard survived. Amazingly no one was injured, but had he been driving a bit faster it would have gone off under the cab instead of under the engine. Glad to hear! |
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lry.
Personally, I'm not familiar with much else beyond top secrete clearance. My own clearance was Secret. A cursory search though does not reveal 14 levels above top secrete.
Maybe those levels are secret. In which case you aren't supposed to know about them. Your friend sucks at his job.
He got out of government work about a decade ago. He said he wouldn't tell me anything that he knew was supposed to be kept confidential because he knew I would likely tell someone sooner or later. But he did say that it was because of the things he couldn't tell me that he got out of government work. Btw, I'm sorry about your buddy, the driver |
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I'll buy one for 2866 LTC. That cleans me out. I'll offer 3,500 LTC if you want to wait a week or two for me to mine the rest.
Well for 1 I would probably want something more along the lines of 9,000. I dont set the market prices for SLV or BTC or even LTC. ...~9 BTC in LTC for 1 oz.? You realize that's like $50+ Sorry my math is off...more like 4700. Ay, fair enough. Too rich for my blood. Good luck with the auction! |
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I'll buy one for 2866 LTC. That cleans me out. I'll offer 3,500 LTC if you want to wait a week or two for me to mine the rest.
Well for 1 I would probably want something more along the lines of 9,000. I dont set the market prices for SLV or BTC or even LTC. ...~9 BTC in LTC for 1 oz.? You realize that's like $50+ |
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I'll buy one for 2866 LTC. That cleans me out. I'll offer 3,500 LTC if you want to wait a week or two for me to mine the rest.
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