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2461  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 07, 2013, 08:37:26 AM
Thanks.  Reason for asking is that a bulk of the remaining funds have passed few a few stateside wallets, but if the I.P(s) are inaccurate this line of investigation will be fruitless..

I heard that the IP addresses are the miners that relayed those transactions or the node's IP that relayed the transaction to the miner that confirmed the transaction, either situation would not show the IP of the person who actually moved the coins unless they connected directly to the miner which is a rare thing.

I could be wrong.
2462  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 07, 2013, 08:23:31 AM
Does anyone know how accurate the "Tree view" is on blockchain.info

http://blockchain.info/tree/82917927

Well the country flags can be very inaccurate, but the transaction path is known as its just reading the blockchain. (If you are asking, "is the transaction tree accurate?" then yes its 100% accurate)

EDIT: However I am not sure that is Labcoin's coins. It looks like its a gamblers coins. I think you are tracing the wrong person.
2463  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 07, 2013, 06:33:55 AM
Good luck buying expensive Labcoin stock (anything above 1 satoshi is expensive for this stock)

Quick reminder, trade is stopping in less than 24 hours.

2464  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should miners collude to steal funds from wallet confiscated by US government? on: October 07, 2013, 06:30:37 AM
Could you explain it two ways (in both detail and layman's terms)? I thought a 51% attack would be able to do this. If it can't, what can a 51% attack do?

51% attack allows you to double spend your own coins (by rewriting the blockchain where you sent coins originally (to a merchant for example))

So last week you me 100 bitcoin, today you 51% attack and resend those 100 bitcoins from last week to another address. Now those 100 bitcoins I got from you last week are double spent / invalid and you got whatever product I sent you for free.

I think this is somewhat what happens. Also a 51% attack allows you to deny anyone else transactions, so you can stall the network.
2465  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 07, 2013, 05:45:51 AM
I think now people buy shares just to bet there's a slight chance they will buy back all shares with remaining BTC, if they are pushed hard enough.

Do we know who holds the 7,000 bitcoin or what's left of it?
2466  Other / Off-topic / Re: DPR is a hero! on: October 07, 2013, 05:42:36 AM
SR was a good site, just a guy gone mad with bitcoins.

If he kept a lot of profit from commision, he may have half a million bitcoin stashed away somewhere.

If he goes to jail, he might become the richest person on Earth whilst incarcerated.

Incredible.
2467  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 07, 2013, 05:40:10 AM
Someone just bought 10,000 shares.

Not sure what illness that person has, its probably serious.
2468  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should miners collude to steal funds from wallet confiscated by US government? on: October 07, 2013, 05:38:20 AM
Also I am sure if the miners do this the Bitcoin nodes will reject the block making a hardfork. I might be wrong about this though.
2469  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should miners collude to steal funds from wallet confiscated by US government? on: October 07, 2013, 05:36:50 AM
Should miners collude to steal funds from wallet confiscated by US government?

are the any other situations where this is encouraged?

If this ever happens, Bitcoin dies that day.

Its really that simple, not sure why people think this could be done with no repercussions.

Bitcoin works because of its trustless nature, Satoshi himself made a big point about that. However if we allow the movement of funds without knowing the private key then Bitcoin becomes a trusted system, we now have to trust the miners not to move funds and now Bitcoin is the absolute opposite of what Satoshi intended.

So if this happens, the trustless foundation is no more and people will lose faith and the value of a Bitcoin will become less than a dollar.
2470  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 07, 2013, 05:28:55 AM
ActM has killed my Bitcoin value moreso than Labcoin - just saying.

ActM has been the worst investment I have ever made.
2471  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 07, 2013, 04:02:02 AM
Labcoin now almost 10 times less than IPO.
2472  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Interesting Hacker news discussion about the silk road situation on: October 02, 2013, 04:07:45 PM
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6482992
2473  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: October 02, 2013, 03:26:19 PM
I'm really liking the vote idea. Between 0.2% and 1%, vote weight is based on amount invested for what period of time.

EDIT: this vote is for max bet profit.

This would require dooglus to build a system to track vote weight per account in real time.

However an additional thing to add would be a time half life. So older time is less relevant past a certain point, perhaps after 3 months each month on has halfing effect.

An example: days 1 to 365 (site open for a year)

Example involves person A and person B.

Day 1: A has 100 bitcoin invested, B has nothing invested
Day 275: A divests, B now invests 100 bitcoin.

Day 365 vote weight:

A should have half the vote weight that B has, and every month more that B stays divested the time should half off instead of degrading like normal, because its old irrelevant time.

If no half life is implemented, then at day 365 A will have 3x the vote power of B even though B has been far more current.

I think the half life should not be too close to the current day because whales can just invest for a short period of time, but if after 3 months the time invested past that point becomes worth less and less, it will give current investors a better vote.

The site will need to count vote weight all the time, if B divests 10 bitcoin for 1 day this needs to be continuously monitored and weighed.

EDIT 2: The downside is that this is very complicated for something that is currently 1 variable that dooglus has set and most people are happy with.
2474  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 02, 2013, 02:43:49 PM
Today's Dividends

Today's Dividend will be delayed until next Wednesday

This is due to the ongoing transfer of shares from BTC-TC to Bitfunder.  So, before dividends are paid out on Wednesday of next week all transfers of shares to bitfunder will have to be completed.  The dividend on Wednesday will be larger than normal and also we will start paying the dividend on Wednesday of each week.

Also, note that trading in ActiveMining on BTC-TC will be frozen after September 30th on BTC-TC.

Thats why I expected the dividend today.
2475  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 02, 2013, 02:37:56 PM
yes dividend has been paid. ฿ 0.00000147 per share.

Where is this?
2476  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 02, 2013, 12:13:46 PM
...Damn, so the chips need fixing? How were they hashing at 800GH/s? I missed the Q&A because this thread grows 20 pages a day.

Drawingthesun, don't tell me you've put money on this too, this late in the game?

I got my last shares out at 0.002

But its a shame because I was holding a lot at one point and really liked the idea to hold shares in a new mining company. At the moment the money I have made from Labcoin has offset my loss in value from ActM.

So my investments in Lab and ActM have made the whole thing breakeven, which sucks because of the time invested.

EDIT: I had been looking for an excuse to get back in, but I don't think that is ever going to happen.
2477  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: 500,000 hashers gone? on: October 02, 2013, 12:11:29 PM
According to Coindesk the mining function was removed from botnet in April

http://www.coindesk.com/zeroaccess-botnet-stopped-bitcoin-mining/



This makes sense, especially considering high CPU usage might raise suspicions and the payoff (bitcoin mining) is not worth it. I think they were saying the click fraud and such were generating 100x the money bitcoin mining was generating.

Its not economical to run a botnet for Bitcoin mining.
2478  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: October 02, 2013, 12:06:52 PM
Was nakowa invested when mechs won?

He had 20% of bankroll, which means he would have lost over 400+ to mechs

Great, that just means Nakowa will come and win another 400 from us to make it up...
2479  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 02, 2013, 12:01:02 PM
Pankkake, do you think there is any chance this was not a scam but rather a badly run company?
I thought it was badly run and a bit suspicious but now I think the scam is to have a badly run company. I am pretty sure of it, especially after looking at the previous scams from the people who seem to be related to Labcoin. When you run a scam, the big part is to get away with it.

In the latest Q&A Labcoin did not want to do a refund but said he would spend the bitcoins he still has to fix the chips, as an excuse to not refund the coins left in the company. The chips are now way too late so even fixing them will not be cost-effective. Even if they are legit, they are doing something that will be less profitable for their investors than a refund... so... scam anyway.

Damn, so the chips need fixing? How were they hashing at 800GH/s? I missed the Q&A because this thread grows 20 pages a day.
2480  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: October 02, 2013, 11:49:03 AM
dooglus wants out, he can't stand the variance and the ONLY reason the site remains is to be fair to the people who are still invested.

Dooglus is making good money by taking 10% weekly commission on ALL the profits made on his site. That's a good, risk-free business model for him, so let me strongly disagree on your statement quoted above.

Except he can't stand the massive loses the site has made, even if its not his money being lost. Please read dooglus's posts. He has mentioned wanting to shut the site down quite a lot.

dooglus cares a lot about the investors and the losses they are incurring does not sit well with him.
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