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2481  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 28, 2015, 10:48:28 PM
Asianconnect88 no longer accepts bitcoins.
2482  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 28, 2015, 06:40:24 PM
Guess we can't say we're the only Provably Fair Casino with a Sportsbook now, huh?

Maybe Nitro will be listed on Havelock next   Cheesy

There aren't any worries with Nitrogen. I trust the casinos and poker rooms at Anonibet, Nitrogen, Betcoinsports and Casinobitcoin.
2483  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 28, 2015, 05:35:53 PM
Nitrogensports just added blackjack.
2484  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 28, 2015, 08:14:55 AM
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
NitrogenSports A- (2012)

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)
Cloudbet B- (2013)
Jetwin B-(2013)

"C" rated books
BetVIP C (2014)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Betmoose D+ (2014)
Fairlay D+ (2013)
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
OLEBitcoin D+ (2013) *

"F" rated books
BetCas F
BTCBook F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014)
Bitbm F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
1player
7Bit
altbetfair
Asianconnect88
Betabit
Betbanks
Betbtc
Betmoose
betxcp
BetXCP
Bitcoinvegas
Bitesports
Coin178
Cointeller
Darkbet
Evolvebets
Fairlay
finalstake
Flutterclub
Planetofbets
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
Premiumtradings
tdsports
xbet.io


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
2485  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 28, 2015, 06:54:55 AM
PLAY WITH THE ESTABLISHED BOOKS AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR.

Now is not the time to play at new books. It 's best to stay with highly rated books. After the Super Bowl is a popular time for books to run with player's funds. There have been many horror stories in February.


Just to repeat, only play at a top rated books for the Super Bowl as well as some time shortly after the Super Bowl. Many books have gone under after the Super Bowl. One book offered no juice for the Super Bowl. Another book had an off line giving them one way action. They lost the bet and went under.
2486  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 28, 2015, 06:51:10 AM
crazy573 regarding BTCBook

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Do not use this sports book!

I am waiting 2 weeks now to make a withdrawal, they don't answer my emails anymore.
There are 3 options:
They are completely incompetent to run a sportsbook
It's a scam
they don't have BTC to payout anybody

Either way, do not use this sportsbook!

I will edit this post if found untrue. With newer books it's sometimes best to get out a claim without a thorough check. With an established book, the claims are checked prior to an accusation or warning.

Another reason for posting this today is that the NFL conference championships are today and they are giving away a 20% bonus with a 2x rollover. This is unsustainable with the margins that they are using.

BTCBook
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crazy573,

We are looking into your account now and it should be resolved shortly.

BTCBook
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All issues have been resolved. Deposits and withdrawals are working instantly again.

We will be running a great super bowl promo starting soon as an apology to our users!
2487  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 26, 2015, 05:08:12 AM
DirectBet- I don't want to be unfair to you but it does seem that you are too spread out and have to put out a lot of fires.

Is there an explanation for what happened here?

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Reply with quote  #3267

site broken, my bet win not settled n my bet not placed, please check my inbox thank you
2488  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 26, 2015, 04:58:42 AM
DirectBet - Here is a recent problem. I realize that the problem is with Dark Coin wallet but this doesn't help the player.


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Is your site having issues taking parlay bets?

I placed this bet over 10 minutes ago, DRK coins already left my wallet but you still haven't confirmed my bet

http://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=XmhrbaUZFvmm4BiqjVL422CL1hH8fRBXVv

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I too have experienced this sort of thing ..

but only shifted slightly ods her.
2489  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 26, 2015, 02:47:38 AM
DirectBet has been notified in case they would like to reply to any of the remarks above as long as they follow thread guidelines.
2490  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 26, 2015, 02:42:41 AM
Has anyone tried out BTCbet . And why is there odds difference on Nitrogen and Directbet.
DB seems to offer better odds a lot of times. But overall which sites are better for odds ?

Nitrogen is one of the best books as far as margins are concerned. DirectBet is one of the worst. Nitrogen, Betcoinsports, Casinobitcoin and Cloudbet are all reduced juice shops.



Ive been using Directbet for quite a while now n havent faced any problems yet. Could you tell me y is it one of the worst? I have used Nitrogen before..!! they take ages to grade games. Quite a lot of the time I see on chat users asking mods to "please grade xyz game". But I like Nitro too other than that. I generally have seen better odds for favs in directbet than nitro. the only complaint I have on Directbet is that they hardly worked on their look. It looks like some amateur made that site.

Why don't give it a try on BetBTC? Our events are automatically settled (graded) when event finishes.
The only inconvenience at the moment is that as we are a new site, we still don't have many liquidity. However as we work as a Bet Exchange you can ask the odds you want (price) and your unmatched bet will eventually be taken by another user, turning it to a matched bet at a good price for you (like on betfair)!

We would like to get some feedback about betbtc on this topic
If anyone is playing at BetBTC, please post experiences to help with an initial rating.
2491  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 26, 2015, 02:41:33 AM
Looks like Nitrogen may be adding live betting.

Nitrogen
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Hi Wendigo,

There is a live betting feature in the pipeline! We get requests for live betting all the time, so it very much is a feature we're going to be adding. It is coming!

Thanks,
-TJ

2492  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 26, 2015, 02:38:14 AM
Has anyone tried out BTCbet . And why is there odds difference on Nitrogen and Directbet.
DB seems to offer better odds a lot of times. But overall which sites are better for odds ?

Nitrogen is one of the best books as far as margins are concerned. DirectBet is one of the worst. Nitrogen, Betcoinsports, Casinobitcoin and Cloudbet are all reduced juice shops.



Ive been using Directbet for quite a while now n havent faced any problems yet. Could you tell me y is it one of the worst? I have used Nitrogen before..!! they take ages to grade games. Quite a lot of the time I see on chat users asking mods to "please grade xyz game". But I like Nitro too other than that. I generally have seen better odds for favs in directbet than nitro. the only complaint I have on Directbet is that they hardly worked on their look. It looks like some amateur made that site.

Posters here at Bitcointalk are tech savy. They understand bitcoins and alt coins and like being able to bet with them. Posters here also like the free small contests. Ignoring the gimmicks and solely evaluating DirectBet as a sportsbook, they come out as one of the worst.

There is a Las Vegas sports forum that will soon be posting the rating's guide used here. If a poster there asks me for my personal opinion on DirectBet, the below would be my reasons for not recommending DirectBet.

1. Under no circumstances should a book be able keep a bet open without accepting/rejecting within a few seconds. Some books delay action a few seconds to prevent accepting steam plays. With DirectBet, it's not that unusual for bets to be held for an extended period of time. This alone would keep me from recommending DirectBet to any gambler.

2. The theoretical hold (margin) is above industry standards.

3. The live betting is almost non-existent in American markets. "Negotiate" is not putting up a line.

4. The interface is one of the worst, fiat or bitcoin book.



2493  Economy / Gambling / Re: When did Bitcoin Gambling started? on: January 24, 2015, 07:16:29 AM
What was the first bitcoin casino and when did it start?
I'm not sure about casinos but the first sportsbook opened in 2011.
2494  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 23, 2015, 10:52:59 PM
Has anyone tried out BTCbet . And why is there odds difference on Nitrogen and Directbet.
DB seems to offer better odds a lot of times. But overall which sites are better for odds ?

Nitrogen is one of the best books as far as margins are concerned. DirectBet is one of the worst. Nitrogen, Betcoinsports, Casinobitcoin and Cloudbet are all reduced juice shops.

2495  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 23, 2015, 09:46:32 PM
Nitrogen is offering the highest limits on Super Bowl prop bets bitcoin or fiat.

6 BTC max on Super Bowl prop bets.

Please post any other Super Bowl information that sticks out.
2496  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 23, 2015, 05:43:22 AM
Looks like some posts are missing now the bitcointalk is back up. Reminder that BTCBook is having payout problems.
2497  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 20, 2015, 08:59:44 PM
Where is Direct bet on the list?? I bet on Nitro n Direct bet..n like Direct bet a lot.!! just needs lil improvements n quality look.!! N it could be the best..!!

This was posted a little while back
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They are tough to rate since some say they are the best and others say the worst. They have more problems and complaints than any other book. It's tough to recommend a book with Directbet's high theoretical hold.

Many guys like getting free bets. Those betting higher shy away from a book that can hold your money without being able to cancel a bet. It has taken longer than 20 minutes for Directbet to accept/reject a bet . Since they are a non-deposit book, you're at the mercy of your wallet, DirectBet's wallet and software problems on the part of Directbet. They have more down time than any other book.

DirectBet was asked not to spam this thread or he would be deleted from the ratings. He continued to do so with the handle "DirectBet and ghost account "Legend" forcing the first thread to be closed at the request of others frustrated with DirectBet clogging the thread.

The only rule for books when posting here is that they only talk about their own book. Books are welcomed to post any information on their own book since most books are professional enough to not abuse this privilege. This is a players thread and we can praise or bash books. Books are disallowed from posting negatively about another book. Allowing book vs. book fight is unwanted. DirectBet refused to abide by this rule continually trying to discredit competitors.

Most posts are deleted concerning DirectBet since he can no longer reply. DirectBet topics are the only topics censored here. Since I'm letting your post stand as well as my reply, in fairness to DirectBet, they can post one reply
2498  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 20, 2015, 08:32:01 PM
webetcoins is randomly replying to emails and saying he is going to payout. What is this? Only certain people he will respond too? I thought this site was one of the oldest sportsbooks?
Replying to those with small balances that they want back and ignoring bigger balances ?
2499  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 20, 2015, 08:27:53 PM
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
NitrogenSports A- (2012)

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)
Cloudbet B- (2013)
Jetwin B-(2013)

"C" rated books
BetVIP C (2014)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Betmoose D+ (2014)
Fairlay D+ (2013)
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
OLEBitcoin D+ (2013) *

"F" rated books
BetCas F
BTCBook F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014)
Bitbm F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
1player
7Bit
altbetfair
Asianconnect88
Betabit
Betbanks
Betbtc
Betmoose
betxcp
BetXCP
Bitcoinvegas
Bitesports
Coin178
Cointeller
Darkbet
Evolvebets
Fairlay
finalstake
Flutterclub
Planetofbets
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
Premiumtradings
tdsports
xbet.io


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players

2500  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Input from players and books wanted. on: January 20, 2015, 08:25:33 PM
BTCBook downgraded from "D+" to "F"


BTCBook still not paying crazy
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Do not use this sports book!

I am waiting 2 weeks 16 days now to make a withdrawal, they don't answer my emails anymore.
There are 3 options:
They are completely incompetent to run a sportsbook
It's a scam
they don't have BTC to payout anybody

Either way, do not use this sportsbook!


edit- They have been replying to communications but have not paid.

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