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1741  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 25, 2016, 01:49:48 AM
1742  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 25, 2016, 01:48:51 AM

"A" rated books

NitrogenSports A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B+ (2013)
Jetwin B+ (2013)
Bitcoinrush B (2013)

"C" rated books
Anonibet C+ (2011)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
DirectBet C+ (2014)
Betbtc C (2014)
Fairlay C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)


"D" rated books
Premiumtradings D+ (2014))

"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
altbetfair.com
betbanks.com
betmbtc.com
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
bitsportsbook.org
BTCBook
Coin178.com
coinbet24.com
Flutterclub.com
lvaction.com
Planetofbets.com
tdsports.com
xbet.io


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
1743  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 25, 2016, 01:45:04 AM
I tried using vitalbet deposited took 2-3 conf before it went it and after betting i tried withdrawing yesterday when i woke up after 8hrs  it got rejected and now i requested another withdrawal will update this post about the status.

update : I received an email from support saying before you could withdraw you need to do 2x rollover of the amount you deposit didnt saw any notice about this one beware guys.

Was there a bonus involved?

If not, there is no excuse for a book to demand any rollover for a btc withdrawal.


Peeps - This should be flagged as an "F" Do Not Use book if there was no bonus involved.
Wow. That definitely should be written in the rules. Give me a little time to look a little deeper.

VitalBet isn't going to be part of the rating's guide since they are a fiat book that accepts bitcoins. That said, it's nice for the warning for us to see.
1744  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 25, 2016, 01:40:51 AM
I read every book's thread and all books have complaints. Players with a complaint are much more likely to post than those with praise.

We haven't found any complaint about BetBTC since 2014. Please point us something.
Thanks



BetBTC - You added a lot since the last upgrade. For the NBA you now have spreads, money lines, totals as well as first halves. Everything looks great.

I hate to say anything negative about you because there are so many positives. You still need more liquidity to get into the "B"s. Upgrades go one step at a time.

BetBTC upgraded from "C-" to "C"
1745  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 24, 2016, 02:42:22 AM
Is any btc book offering Nascar?

I don't see anything up now but I think Betcoinsports offers Nascar.
1746  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 23, 2016, 05:45:18 PM
Very interesting and very good. Here we can see the sites that move in the sports match and we can see which sites the better and most preferred by the gamblers. And this is very helpful for me and all of us who want to look for the best and trusted site. But I see this thread is no longer functioning, and because of what this thread is not running again ..??


Why do you say this thread isn't running?
1747  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 21, 2016, 08:18:01 PM
It's time to cash out of Cloudbet for anyone who hasn't done so yet.


It seems pointless to bet there. Bets aren't being graded, withdrawals aren't being made, cs always terrible and almost non-existent is now totally non-existent.

Turning out the lights soon?



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Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino
Today at 12:50:57 PM
   
Reply with quote  #2710
Quote from: Heloumajd on Today at 07:37:10 AM
Before 12 hours I won.. And It still showing me PENDING! I contacted you, you told me that sportbooks team will contact you shortly... But NOTHING happened!!! I resent another tons of emails and also nothing happened..... I'm waiting for you like idiot, and you dont respect that!

It's really not nice!!
I'm still waiting to get my win in order to bet on new games. The games have started and I'm still waitinggg!

Dissatissfied from this support!!!
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"You have luck, at least is pending, my bet was granted as win but balance has not changed...

May be is a new tweak!! Who knows ?? Cloudbet has changed nowadays ..."

Every weekend Cloudbet has problems. Cloudbet has stated numerous times that they added extra help to man the weekends but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Anyone have opinions on the new odds provider that Cloudbet is using?

1748  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 21, 2016, 08:16:02 PM
I tried using vitalbet deposited took 2-3 conf before it went it and after betting i tried withdrawing yesterday when i woke up after 8hrs  it got rejected and now i requested another withdrawal will update this post about the status.

update : I received an email from support saying before you could withdraw you need to do 2x rollover of the amount you deposit didnt saw any notice about this one beware guys.

Was there a bonus involved?

If not, there is no excuse for a book to demand any rollover for a btc withdrawal.


Peeps - This should be flagged as an "F" Do Not Use book if there was no bonus involved.
Wow. That definitely should be written in the rules. Give me a little time to look a little deeper.
1749  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 21, 2016, 12:22:39 AM
Jetwin site is down:

    
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Re: JETWIN.ps - #1 BITCOIN SPORTSBOOK / LIVE CASINO
Today at 04:28:17 PM
   

 Gogo ppp on Today at 04:22:51 PM

I just tried and got that error also.

Can anyone get in?

Jetwin - what's going on?"
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"Its long time and no one replying or giving any updates about this support is not active like others sports betting sites which are giving all updates very quickly"


Peeps - Can you find out anything?

They are not responding to their thread at bitcointalk, which should be one of the first things any site does when there's an outage.
in right now.
1750  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 20, 2016, 03:37:29 AM
Hi everyone.  We have released our Daily Fantasy platform and we currently offer Daily NBA contests.

Please check us out: https://www.mvplineup.com/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1368239.0

@Peeps Place and community: We would appreciate your support.

Thanks!
 More and more states are banning DraftKings and Fanduel. It's nice to have a bitcoin site.
1751  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 20, 2016, 03:34:28 AM
May I ask when the first post was last updated? Is the info there still accurate and up to date?

Every time there is a rating change it is reflected on the first page. All of the ratings are current.
1752  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 11, 2016, 10:45:16 PM
Any praises or complaints on withdrawals subsequent to the Super Bowl for sportsbooks?
1753  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 10, 2016, 11:06:29 AM
sbrzol- When you placed the bet at Fairlay that moved the line at Pinny, what market was that? I'm not playing any overnights or small markets where it's easy to move the line to check.


I think it was handball,  you can move the price with 100-200 EUR  (if the stake limit is only 100-300 EUR )

Here everybody can check that there is only a few  bettor at fairlay.   The first one is probably fairlay itself the so called market maker.  
https://www.fairlay.com/highscore/


In the long-term everybody has negative roi at pinnacle who plays on dropping odds or sharp lines , so i can understand fairlay/nitrogen/betcoinag goal to take a bite from the cake. (by using pinnacle markets and lines)

Probably fairlay satisfied with their income so they stopped developing/(bug)fixing their site.

They have 38 users that played in the last 7 days?
1754  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 10, 2016, 10:35:04 AM
sbrzol- When you placed the bet at Fairlay that moved the line at Pinny, what market was that? I'm not playing any overnights or small markets where it's easy to move the line to check what's going on at Fairlay.
1755  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 10, 2016, 10:28:43 AM
Fairlay can cancel your bet at anytime.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673475.msg13814311#msg13814311

They have 2 types of customers:   the so called market makers and the simple users.
If a market maker makes an error ( on copying pinnacle lines/prices) then fairlay will cancel those matched bet.
If you, as a simple user, make an error (offer swapped prices) then your matched bet never will be cancelled.

But you will never know that the price you bet on were offer by a market maker or a simple user.

I am sure that the so called market maker is fairlay itself.  They (re)place all matched bets on pinnacle sports to "cover" their  bets .
Earlier i saw this, when i placed a bet on fairlay (at low stake limit) then the pinnacle odds on the same market immediately changed, as if  i placed my bet on pinnacle directly.


Fairlay bugs :

"If you place bets on both side (lay, back) on the same market that is unmatched then fairly subtract both amount (back amount and lay liability) from your account. "
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673475.msg12679065#msg12679065


bet fully partially matched bug :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673475.msg13530525;topicseen#msg13530525

It's dangerous if Fairlay seeds the market and then has the ability to cancel in game or post game. That's not a true exchange. I would guess that only a small percentage of the wagers are player vs. player.
1756  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 10, 2016, 01:02:08 AM
I'm happy that gogo is posting all problems, even in the poker room, so that we all have information on the various books. For the purposes of ratings, as has been stated before, only the sportsbook side of a book is considered in the ratings.

Betcoin.ag is currently making payments on the sportsbook side with no problems as far as I know and from what I have read. This is why the rating is unchanged.
1757  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 07, 2016, 03:32:12 AM
Nitrogen has a variation of Super Bowl squares where you can bet on the numbers that you want.

https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/football/superbowl-squares
1758  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 07, 2016, 03:25:02 AM
A lot of Broncos money has come in.

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The early betting action on Super Bowl 50 in Las Vegas was lopsided toward the favored Carolina Panthers.

That is changing. So much money has been showing up on the Denver Broncos recently that some sportsbooks are beginning to wonder if they'll be rooting for the Panthers come Sunday.

On Saturday, the Panthers were consensus 5.5-point favorites. They had opened as low as 3.5 favorites and attracted the bulk of the early money -- as much as 90 percent at some Nevada sportsbooks.

But a midweek flurry of big bets on Denver from respected players, followed by weekend money on the underdog Broncos, evened out the action.
http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/14727630/super-bowl-50-late-money-denver-broncos-not-carolina-panthers
1759  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 06, 2016, 07:42:31 PM
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Betcoin Sports Super Bowl 50 - 1 BTC Guess The Score Promotion

Enter the Betcoin Sports Super Bowl 1 BTC promotion by selecting a winning prematch wager and accurately predicting the score of the game. Details below!

Betcoin Sports is excited to introduce the Betcoin Sports 1 BTC Super Bowl 50 promotion, simply place a winning wager of 0.015 btc or more on any Super Bowl prematch selection and accurately predict the score of the game and you will be entered for your share of 1 btc.

In order to enter this promotion you must place your Betcoin Sports betslip in a comment on this thread https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-super-bowl-50-1-btc-guess-score-promotion along with your predicted score of the game. You can enter this promotion up to 5 different times with 5 different wagers. By way of example:

You can select Carolina to win -5 and a score of 26-17 in a comment on this thread https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-super-bowl-50-1-btc-guess-score-promotion. You must include your ticket. Should multiple players win the wager and predict the score, the 1 BTC will be split among the winners.

We wish everyone the best of luck and enjoy the game!
1760  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 04, 2016, 06:22:28 PM
Is there anywhere that compares the prices of most books for the superbowl? 

Any info appreciated, but particularly looking for the props.  (I always like taking the bridge jumpers like no safety, no overtime, no 2 pt conversion thinking they are so unattractive to the average gambler they must have decent value)

Just looking over the ML and point spread at 5dimes, jetwin, nitrogen and Betcoin and finding a some bigger discrepancies than I thought. 

For example:

If you want Carolina Moneyline, Nitrogen has the best price at -221 and Jetwin the worst -250.  (5dimes, Nitrogen and Jetwin all have Denver +195, Betcoin +188)

But if you want to bet denver with the spread (+5.5), Jetwin offers the best price at -105.




I haven't seen anything that compares prop prices for the bitcoin books. I agree that the average gambler will be on, "yes" for will there be a safety.
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