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1681  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: May 24, 2016, 02:02:53 AM
Not sure if Hungerstyle is innocent, but I am sure that Directbet is guilty of handling this situation very poorly.  Feel free to repost this wherever if anyone likes.



Last fall for about a month maybe 1 out of every 20 transactions from my electrum wallet  were showing up as double spends and it was completely unintentional (eventually realized i needed to update software)  There were no big problems because they were all involving individuals or sites that require 1 confirmation.  

In the end, one would confirm and the other was eventually deleted from the block chain.

If I had deposited on DirectBet, could I have ended up getting freerolled like Hungerstyle?

There are two still in my Betcoin transaction history with invalid transaction ids:

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This transaction is unknown.

You might have used wrong transaction hash, or the transaction you're looking for hasn't yet propagated through the network. It can take a while for transactions to get to blockchain nodes.

My point is, obviously I don't think any site can justify not paying out a winning bet after the fact because of a double unconfirmed transaction and a suspicion.  


If they have enough evidence to justify seizing 36 bitcoin from a player, they should be prepared to defend their decision to the player and the public (if player chooses to make it public)  Can't just say "fuck this guy, I think he's trying to scam us" and expect to maintain a reputation.  



Have you tried to double-spend?
If yes and there are proves, everything seems legit (except you)

Does your comment reflect how BetBTC would handle a similar situation?

BetBTC- Do you have any comment on TwitchySeals question?
1682  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: May 24, 2016, 02:00:26 AM
Have you tried to double-spend?
If yes and there are proves, everything seems legit (except you)

Does your comment reflect how BetBTC would handle a similar situation?

Definitely it wouldn't be a good idea to try double-spend on us.

Do you agree with DirectBet in that they should confiscate 36 BTC? This is the second time that DirectBet has confiscated player's funds. It's one thing to void winnings, it's outright theft to take deposits.
1683  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: May 23, 2016, 06:51:33 PM
DirectBet confiscated 36 BTC claiming the player attempted to double spend. DirectBet will not return the funds unless the player provides a copy of his passport.

https://imgur.com/a/qn6gF






Yes I consider lost cause.

I buy btc bet and lose cash + coin. They probably sweating heat.


As stated in the email they ignore. They claim double spend after nadal loses 1st set but TXID they provide as the DS has input that is spent  24 hours + before match even started. Spent input proves both that tx came long before nadal and what they claim as a hack was never valid tx that could confirm


They ignore support email and I provide all screens & co operation.

Probably misunderstanding on DB half but as of writing this they have still not responded to email support since "Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:23 PM"  

Their forum people just say "Management is looking into it"  and bury with their promo posts.

End of day small potatoes but serious players proabbly should look to another book

This is the second time that DirectBet has confiscated funds. 36 BTC is a substantial amount for a book to take from a player. A top book isn't going to steal 36 BTC from a player. Keep us updated.
1684  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: May 23, 2016, 01:25:28 PM
Sportsbet.io to open June 10th.

It's not a good sign to see this type of offer from a new book.

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To celebrate the official opening, we are raffling 2 EURO 2016 final game tickets among all pre-registered members, while there will also be only 1 lucky winner who gets the ultimate prize - the amazing trip package to France, the country to host this year’s EURO Championship. Others will have a chance to win various BTC prizes during EURO 2016 events, with the total prize pool amounting to the jaw-dropping 300 BTC.
1685  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: May 23, 2016, 02:59:59 AM
DirectBet temporarily taken down from the rating's guide.

"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
betcoinsports.com B+ (2013)
jetwin.ps B+ (2013)
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books)
.betbtc.co C (2014)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
fairlay.com C (2014)
betmoose.com C- (2014)
olebitcoin.com C- (2013)*
predictious.com C- (2013)


"D" rated books
http://anonibet.com/  D+ (2011)
premiumtradings.com D+ (2014))

"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
2bet.io (2016)
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
coinbet24.com
lunarbets.eu
1686  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: May 23, 2016, 02:37:31 AM
DirectBet confiscated 36 BTC claiming the player attempted to double spend. DirectBet will not return the funds unless the player provides a copy of his passport.

https://imgur.com/a/qn6gF


1687  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: May 20, 2016, 02:20:40 PM
"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
betcoinsports.com B+ (2013)
jetwin.ps B+ (2013)
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books)
directbet.eu C+ (2014)
.betbtc.co C (2014)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
fairlay.com C (2014)
betmoose.com C- (2014)
olebitcoin.com C- (2013)*
predictious.com C- (2013)


"D" rated books
http://anonibet.com/  D+ (2011)
premiumtradings.com D+ (2014))

"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
2bet.io (2016)
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
coinbet24.com
lunarbets.eu

1688  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: May 20, 2016, 02:19:59 PM
Is it possible to have Anonibet as D- or something, like that , they have been sitting on my 12,2 BTC withdrawal for 17 hours now, and the support don't seem to care

They are currently a "D+". At one time Anonibet was a top book but they have really gone down hill. Keep us updated on your withdrawal.
1689  Economy / Gambling / Re: List of Bitcoin sportsbooks # Collection on: May 20, 2016, 02:36:56 AM
Pretty nice list you've got already, but I think it would be good to also add which sports you could bet on.
Are you planning on adding additional information in the future or just keep the list as is?

1690  Economy / Gambling / Re: List of Bitcoin sportsbooks # Collection on: May 20, 2016, 02:35:08 AM

The list not complete. Feel free to post other sportsbook sites here. I will check and add them to the list.[/size]

"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
betcoinsports.com B+ (2013)
jetwin.ps B+ (2013)
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books)
directbet.eu C+ (2014)
.betbtc.co C (2014)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
fairlay.com C (2014)
betmoose.com C- (2014)
olebitcoin.com C- (2013)*
predictious.com C- (2013)


"D" rated books
http://anonibet.com/  D+ (2011)
premiumtradings.com D+ (2014))

"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
2bet.io (2016)
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
coinbet24.com
lunarbets.eu
1691  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: May 12, 2016, 06:57:52 PM
It seems that I do not see Vegascasino.io on your list I suggest you add www.vegascasino.io if you need more information I will give


That would be great if you could PM me information or post it. Thanks
1692  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: May 11, 2016, 03:54:30 AM
lunarbets.eu refund 50% (almost all winnings) of my bets without any explanation. I bet a lot last 10 days, around 50 bets on 45 different events.

Withdrawals and deposit works (for now).
They refund and bets after the start of the event (of course only if your bet have a chance to win).

Over/Under bets is not use standard Asian handicap rules: for example - if you bet over or under 100 and the final result is 60-40 your bet will be loose (European handicap). For point speared they use standard Asian handicap rules (but this can be change immediately without any announcement).

For tennis point speared (+1.5/-1.5) some of odds are for set handicap some are for games handicap. lunarbets.eu will decide after the finish of the event. Stay away from this site.

D-- or F is my rating for lunarbets.eu 
 

Can you post a couple examples of bets that were canceled? Did they give reasons for the cancellations?
1693  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: May 08, 2016, 09:48:31 PM
It seems that we will be the arrival of the new sports betting sites as provided in my signature www.sportsbet.io
but this site will work in June later I predicted this site will become one of the major sites in bitcointalk I will report on the performance of these sites let's wait for their presence.
gl. Keep us updated.
1694  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: May 08, 2016, 09:45:52 PM
Any problems with a book?

Yeah,  cloudbet limits are now in ridiculous category.      (NBA  under 0.3 BTC , all other between :  0.01-0.05 BTC)

I think cloudbet is D now.

I can give access to my account. Feel free to test it. Wink  (with an account balance 0.3 BTC)
I believe you and those limits are awful.
1695  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: May 05, 2016, 11:50:16 PM
Any problems with a book?
1696  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 25, 2016, 05:23:39 PM
Update
1697  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 19, 2016, 04:26:33 PM
"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
betcoinsports.com B+ (2013)
jetwin.ps B+ (2013)
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books)
directbet.eu C+ (2014)
.betbtc.co C (2014)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
fairlay.com C (2014)
betmoose.com C- (2014)
olebitcoin.com C- (2013)*
predictious.com C- (2013)


"D" rated books
http://anonibet.com/  D+ (2011)
premiumtradings.com D+ (2014))

"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
2bet.io (2016)
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
coinbet24.com
lunarbets.eu




* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
1698  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 19, 2016, 04:25:39 PM
Leljke - Sorry that I missed this but I see that you were finally paid.
1699  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 17, 2016, 07:46:50 PM
CLOUDBET IS A PURE SCAM. THEY WONT PROCESS MY BET SLIP. It just keeps saying pending even though the games are over 8 hours ago. I have proof and everything and customer service doesn't want to answer me or help me

Any update on this?
1700  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: April 15, 2016, 02:44:19 AM
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