When God created the universe, He gave mankind control. However, since everything operates by cause and effect, the things that man want are the things that come into being. Then man gave his control over to the devil. So God operates things according to the control of the devil, because God is over all. But... All the evil of this universe will be destroyed right along with the universe. Afterward, it will never be remembered or brought to mind. So, evil will be destroyed. God will bring about this destruction. Do you get it? No more evil. When you die, your evil is essentially gone from you, except if you are found to be against God at the time of the final judgment. If you are, you will be evil, and will be destroyed along with the universe. When you consider all this with understanding, you will find that even the apparent evil of God is still goodness.  |
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It's frightening to think this thread is 222 pages long.
Here is a better question, who cares if the earth is flat or round?
You care about the size of a thread?  Yes, it's astounding  I was in the fabric department at Walmart the other day. Some threads over there were thicker than others. |
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I love World War 2 documentaries. It sure must have been scary as shit watching those flak shells explode all around you. The bravery we seen back then is long lost. I agree, back then they had the hearts of 10 men. I couldn't do half the shit they could. With that said, notbatman is still a utter dumbass for believing the world is fucking FLAT Yes, but. They try to talk nicer to those wretched people in funny farms. I mean, funny farm residents have to put up with themselves way more than we do. We should show a little respect.  |
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It's frightening to think this thread is 222 pages long.
Here is a better question, who cares if the earth is flat or round?
You care about the size of a thread? |
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Isaiah 45:7, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
God is evil, as well as good. Every disaster that has killed people has been done by god, as well as every good thing. Go read the bible.
When God created the universe, He gave mankind control. However, since everything operates by cause and effect, the things that man want are the things that come into being. Then man gave his control over to the devil. So God operates things according to the control of the devil, because God is over all. But... All the evil of this universe will be destroyed right along with the universe. Afterward, it will never be remembered or brought to mind. So, evil will be destroyed. God will bring about this destruction. Do you get it? No more evil. When you die, your evil is essentially gone from you, except if you are found to be against God at the time of the final judgment. If you are, you will be evil, and will be destroyed along with the universe. When you consider all this with understanding, you will find that even the apparent evil of God is still goodness. |
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People create anti-gravity effect when they jump. |
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BADecker principle 1 - if the proof isnt good enough ignore it and request real proof. Your links are not proof nor do they lead to proof of a god... please provide proof. Poor little stats. Since the science law listed in my proofs is something that can't be refuted, all that people like stats use political science to attempt to out-talk the proof, or else, simply, to stick head in sand like ostrich. Thanks for your support of God. But then, you can't help it, can you? There is nothing that can go against God. God is such a solid rock, that any who try to go against Him, will only find that they are harming or destroying themselves. Sorry mate..... im still waiting for you to provide proof. Your attempt to provide proof lacks the evidence needed. When this is pointed out you revert to comments to shift away from the reality that you have no proof. It shouldnt be hard BADecker..... if your god is ao powerful surely he can show himself. I say rocks are real and i can pick one up. There is your proof. Keep with your word games young fella.... ill keep denouncing them. Providing proof isn't what you are waiting for. The proof is there. If you were shown other proof, you would figure a way around accepting is as proof, just like you don't accept the proof provided. The rock you are talking about is proof for the existence of God. How? Make one. Not only can't you make one, but neither you nor anyone else has any knowledge of how a rock came about. But when you examine the make-up of the molecules and atoms and chemistry of a simple rock, you find that it is marvelous. Sure, a rock isn't as marvelous as life, and far less marvelous than intelligence, but the rock is a miracle of existence. The only thing powerful enough to make a rock, fits our definition of God. |
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I believe. The question is if God believes in me  God doesn't have to believe in you. He knows everything about you... E V E R Y T H I N G. But, He does have hope that you will come to salvation. You sound like the guy who wrote the piece about how Jesus spent time alone in the dessert and nobody saw it. Yet he wrote about it. You know what God knows. Maybe because God and his wishes and wants are all in your head. The Spirit of God told that guy, through miraculous revelation... and told him to write it down, as well. |
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I read somewhere that There is a reason for everything in this universe. The discovered are known as science and the unknown are called religion. I'm a strong supporter of the belief that during evolution, the rapidly developing mind of humans, which was filled with curiosity regarding every undiscovered thing caused restlessness. Although this curiosity helped in further development of culture and new discoveries, some of the complex stuff that couldn't have been explained lead to the formation of an entity known as GOD! I agree that there is some superior power that controls all that is living and dead, but I'd rather believe in an atom nucleus than an unseen entity.
There is no evolution. Why? Because... First, count all the molecules and atoms in a living cell. Then figure out how all these atoms could accidentally fall into the correct places to imitate a living cell. It's impossible that these atoms and molecules could accidentally line up into cell form perfectly. Probability math says it's impossible. Second, even if these molecules and atoms all existed and lined up properly, then they would have to start moving in just the right ways to make the potential cell alive. The probability math against this being able to happen makes this impossible, as well. Third, before the cell comes to life, some of the molecules will automatically work chemical actions on some of the other molecules, which will change the potential cell so it can't come to life. Fourth, the surrounding chemicals that lent some of their atoms and molecules to the potential cell would destroy it before it lasted 1 second. Fifth, even if all these impossible things happened, and a living cell formed by random activity, before the cell had enough time to gain the additional molecules and atoms that it would need so that it could divide and propagate, the surrounding chemicals would have destroyed it, or it would die of old age. Further, cause and effect works in everything. So, the cell would not have started through any random activity. Why? There is no random activity. It is all cause and effect... programming. So, life was programmed by some Power great enough to overcome all the probability math odds. None of our current realistic models show how to overcome any of this so that life could happen by evolution. Evolution is out of the picture. There was no evolution. Find something else. |
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You want to say that the Russians are in collusion with the Americans and lying to fly to the international space station? Why would they do that? Steal money? Don't you watch TMNT? They're obviously after the pizza.  What? You are promoting pizzagate, now?  Are you promoting the idea that all the politicians aren't blackmailed? Is that idea too much for you to handle? 
notbatman, you are disgusting.
Those poor kids.  |
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You want to say that the Russians are in collusion with the Americans and lying to fly to the international space station? Why would they do that? Steal money? Don't you watch TMNT? They're obviously after the pizza. What? You are promoting pizzagate, now? |
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And You Fuck Off.!
Yep! At the end of the day, all these FE people have is anger and foul language. They are like animals in a cage, wanting to get out, but denying themselves access to the knowledge that can get them out. And the knowledge isn't difficult. All they have to do to unlock the cage of their cult is to get out of the cult. Then they could be free, and start to find happiness in the truth. |
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If you do not embrace any religion in this world, then you are living in this world for what? what the purpose of your life in this world if you do not believe in any religion?
The most basic purpose of life is to pass on your genes to the next generation (or not). The purpose of any lifeform is to live and see their offspring live. That is how life sustains itself. You can make your life useful to others, you can enjoy it. You might as well. You only got one life after all. whether you believe in the existence of heaven and hell? The nature does not care if you believe in hell or heaven. Earthquakes and hurricanes happen no matter what you believe. Species survive or go extinct no matter if you believe in Ra, Zeus or more recently in Jesus. what you ever have a problem? how do you solve the problem? Do you not care with the problems you are currently facing? problem is a test, so earthquakes etc it was is a test. then why there Mosque, Church, Temple, Shrine, Pagoda, Synagogue. What are they doing there? what they expect there? if they are not expecting paradise? then why there a place of worship if you do not believe in the existence of heaven and hell? Do you know the "faith"? If you have a problem, you use that thing between your eyes to solve it. People came up with the concept of 'God(s)' to fill up the gaps in the understanding of how the nature works. This need to have answers to everything is well ingraied in all of us. Some of us fill this need with imaginary concepts, others sit down and try to investigate, reason out the solutions. The sad reality is that there is no heaven or hell. I wish they were. Some of the fucked up Muslim followers (ISIS or Sharia Law sympatizers) or Christian pedophiles should definetly go to hell. But unfortunately we all die and decompose, whether you are a saint or an ISIS executioner. People came up with science to console themselves that they will never be able to fill in the gaps. |
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86 mile high volcanic plume on Io, one of Jupiter's moons. Taken by Galileo.  ^^^ why are there no stars? This image is so obviously CGI. There are stars. There is one there, another there, and there and there and there, etc. Why can't you see the stars during the day? Go out and look for them during the day. They are still there, even if they are FE stars. CGI has nothing to do with it. |
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I believe. The question is if God believes in me God doesn't have to believe in you. He knows everything about you... E V E R Y T H I N G. But, He does have hope that you will come to salvation. |
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I know there is a God. I am a Catholic but some stories on the bible I don't believe. Sometimes I ask myself, is God a powerful being or is it just like a metaphor for the universe. Still I have too many questions about God that I know that there is no answer.
How do you know? Thanks, af_newbie. You are helping people to pinpoint the thing that proves to them that God exists: nature and the universe. Many people haven't put into words exactly why they know that God exists. But you are making them think. They will finally put it into words for themselves. So, thanks. |
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Religion is the greatest deception. However, people want to deceive ourselves. Maybe it's because they're cowards and want to shift responsibility for their lives to someone else?
However, when you state this, especially if you know the definition of religion, you have a deceptive religion going there for yourself. You need to unite with others who believe the same as you do, and make your religion strong. |
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Hatred might be too strong a word, especially if the criticism of religion (and I mean here organized religion, not any simple belief), opposing it and decrying its evils, can be demagogically conflated with hatred towards believers, a fallacious identification many use in order to create an emotional confrontation beyond facts, arguments and evidence.
So rather than "hating" I would say "strongly oppose". And some (or many) atheists oppose, criticize and expose religion for the same reason that many theists do. Belief or unbelief in a deity is not a prerequisite for being aware of the many wrongs and evils of religion, the hatred it induces in people and its sad results.
Atheism is a philosophical and rational stance: atheists cannot believe in any deity because of the lack of evidence on its existence. Anti-religionism or the criticism of religion is also a moral stance based on the harm that belief has on people's lives, on societies and on human dignity, on the worst teachings of religion and on the suffering both of the faithful (as in the case of children raped by priests) and of the faithful's victims (as in the massacres of Rwanda and the genocide by ISIS/Daesh).
A "belief in what isn't science" is not a good definition of religion. My love of Bach and Hieronymus Bosch is certainly not science (at least as of now), but it is not religion. Mysteries to be solved by science are not religion, either. Religion implies the belief beyond reason of a set of preternatural statements, obtained through divine revelation and which are not subject to criticism and which are imposed upon the faithful and/or the unfaithful.
It isn't hatred of religion. It is opposition to organized and formal religion. However, when atheists say that they themselves don't have religion in their atheism, they are either ignorant of the dictionary definition of "religion," or they are liars. |
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BADecker principle 1 - if the proof isnt good enough ignore it and request real proof. Your links are not proof nor do they lead to proof of a god... please provide proof. Poor little stats. Since the science law listed in my proofs is something that can't be refuted, all that people like stats use political science to attempt to out-talk the proof, or else, simply, to stick head in sand like ostrich. Thanks for your support of God. But then, you can't help it, can you? There is nothing that can go against God. God is such a solid rock, that any who try to go against Him, will only find that they are harming or destroying themselves. |
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