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1. Publish the list of tickets and who has which ticket, a bit before the actual draw. Make sure that tickets are numbered.
2. Wait for a specific block hash for the drawing. Once the block comes, take the last few digits of the block hash (maybe 7?) and convert it to a decimal, by using it as a hexadecimal. Next, use the number that you get and apply modulus (number of tickets - 1) to that number. You should get a number between 0 and the number of tickets, minus one. Add one to the number, and you have your first winner. You can get the other winners in other blocks, or if that takes too long, use the last 8 digits, than 9, e.t.c repeating the entire process I just outlined.
- snip - Here is an example of the method I outlined:For this example, I will be using the block that was mined right before this post (block 426230). Normally, a block that hasn't been mined would be used, but for convenience, I will use an already mined one. The has of the block 426230 is 000000000000000000dd8a7bb73190bd8574df5f18966347a2094049e28c8cab The last 7 characters are 28c8cab, and when converted to a decimal gives 42765483. Here is my imaginary ticket list (published before the block is mined) 1: darkstar
2: person2
3: person3
4: person4
5: person5
42765483 % 4 gives 3. 3+1 = 4, so person 4 would have won the 1 BTC prize in this case. Am ok with this method. In my opinion now it's needed a clear specification on how this method will go on for all the prizes paid (26 places if I remember correctly) It has the features needed to silence all the controversy and speculations that have been raised (also by me to be honest) : fairness and trasparency. This is way better than the rudimental one I suggested (video recording of random.org draw). How does everyone else feel about this method? |
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Let's try not to attack each other and figure out how we can make the lottery system more transparent, fun and fair in everyone's eyes.
Once we find a solution the majority agree on, we'll make it a reality.
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+1 to the post above mine, But I think this should be done in the future with future lotteries because we don't want any delay or change in the lottery of tomorrow "and no changing to the block number too". A big fan of the site and their betting options specially on live, keep doing great  ! Agreed. We won't stop or slow down what we currently have. We'll build this in parallel |
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Coding illitterate here. Imo you should just assign a progressive number to every ticket issued and display a page , costantly updated , with players name and respective tickets' ID received. Then just use sites like random.org to draw winners and record a video of the drawings. PS: heard there is grammar police around....if there are mistakes in this post they are due to my cell phone automatic corrector  We want to make sure WHATEVER we go with, the community agrees it's fair and transparent. So let's get a consensus. Regarding live video drarwing, this isn’t very efficient, we want an automated provably fair lottery, like we tried to build! You cant make everyone happy at the same time. There will always be someone that put a disgrace at your sites no matter how hard you try, it is part of the process and people know that this site is honest though. Well I kinda agree with darkstar's idea however I would like to propose to wait for the blocks that will be mined around 6 hours after the countdown of the raffle stop to prevent something like the previous incident of the drawing starts first before the countdown ended PS : Im one of the few winners from the past lottery and Im happy with it As long as we can get a majority that agree. I know we can't make everyone happy, but we damn sure want to try! |
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It is indeed far from the reality, so far I got around 200 mbtc of profit only from the badminton olympics game and of course my bet is not 1 mbtc otherwise I wont be able to get that amount, well he can go figure it himself that. Lotteries is not the only think that keep this sites alive, it is one of the sportsbooks that stand out quite high here
*Thing. [get your grammar right before coming up with useless lines] This website is nothing but a scam run by BTC-Agency [Antonio] like their other grand kids,bitcasino/vegacasino.Directbet and Nitrogen sports are 1000 times better than this crap.Fooling users with fake lotteries and odds lesser than every other site in its domain.I'm about to post a long explanation why their lottery is fake and not based on the blocks as they've put it.I'm just losing my mind over the fact,how they try their best to make up stuff and convince people its all fair. I never thought I'd see better odds and directbet in the same sentence. Have you even checked out their odds, and compared? Sportsbet.io is better a lot of the time, since they operate on a lesser margin compared the DirectBet. The Sportsbet.io players, we are going to try something no one has ever tried before.
Due to players not thinking our new lottery is provably fair, we are looking for help from this community. We want lotteries and we want it to be crystal clear and externally verifiable that it's provably fair.
Are their any aspiring coders on here who would like to build it for us?
We will pay for the complete dev costs. If the community can come together and decide what it would take for the lottery to be proven fair and get it spec'd out and coded up the way you want to see it.
If you are NOT a coder or no coders step up, PLEASE spec out exactly what needs to be done and we will then get it programmed ourselves. Let's start the discussions!
Again, see my previous posts. I'll restate it again, with some changes that would probably be easier in this post: 1. Publish the list of tickets and who has which ticket, a bit before the actual draw. Make sure that tickets are numbered. 2. Wait for a specific block hash for the drawing. Once the block comes, take the last few digits of the block hash (maybe 7?) and convert it to a decimal, by using it as a hexadecimal. Next, use the number that you get and apply modulus (number of tickets - 1) to that number. You should get a number between 0 and the number of tickets, minus one. Add one to the number, and you have your first winner. You can get the other winners in other blocks, or if that takes too long, use the last 8 digits, than 9, e.t.c repeating the entire process I just outlined. Honestly, did you even read my previous posts? If you don't understand it, I will give an example later. if everyone agrees with your example and that this would be put an end to the debate, then yes! Let's proceed. Let's see what the rest of the community says |
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Coding illitterate here. Imo you should just assign a progressive number to every ticket issued and display a page , costantly updated , with players name and respective tickets' ID received. Then just use sites like random.org to draw winners and record a video of the drawings. PS: heard there is grammar police around....if there are mistakes in this post they are due to my cell phone automatic corrector We want to make sure WHATEVER we go with, the community agrees it's fair and transparent. So let's get a consensus. Regarding live video drarwing, this isn’t very efficient, we want an automated provably fair lottery, like we tried to build! |
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The Sportsbet.io players, we are going to try something no one has ever tried before.
Due to players not thinking our new lottery is provably fair, we are looking for help from this community. We want lotteries and we want it to be crystal clear and externally verifiable that it's provably fair.
Are their any aspiring coders on here who would like to build it for us?
We will pay for the complete dev costs. If the community can come together and decide what it would take for the lottery to be proven fair and get it spec'd out and coded up the way you want to see it.
If you are NOT a coder or no coders step up, PLEASE spec out exactly what needs to be done and we will then get it programmed ourselves. Let's start the discussions!
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It is indeed far from the reality, so far I got around 200 mbtc of profit only from the badminton olympics game and of course my bet is not 1 mbtc otherwise I wont be able to get that amount, well he can go figure it himself that. Lotteries is not the only think that keep this sites alive, it is one of the sportsbooks that stand out quite high here
*Thing. [get your grammar right before coming up with useless lines] This website is nothing but a scam run by BTC-Agency [Antonio] like their other grand kids,bitcasino/vegacasino.Directbet and Nitrogen sports are 1000 times better than this crap.Fooling users with fake lotteries and odds lesser than every other site in its domain.I'm about to post a long explanation why their lottery is fake and not based on the blocks as they've put it.I'm just losing my mind over the fact,how they try their best to make up stuff and convince people its all fair. I can assure you we are not a scam. We have many satisfied customers and we will have many more to come! If you have any personal grievances, I would be happy to help you. Please send me a private message and we'll get them worked out. |
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How long does the olympic bets to be settled? Some of my bets that I placed few days ago still not settled I know some of them have lost already. How long does the olympic bets to be settled? Some of my bets that I placed few days ago still not settled I know some of them have lost already.
You should contact their Live Chat if some bets are stuck. It will get solved pretty fast then. Already talked with their live support. Thanks for the suggestion. Can you confirm all your bets were settled now? |
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Compiling a list and asking what we can do with the rest of the team.
Thank you for your feedback.
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How's everyone doing?
Any outstanding questions I can answer?
Anyone having any issues or suggestions?
Thank you
SportsBet.io
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Why was there a redraw ? Wasn't there a draw just day before yesterday ?
Are the winners of the first draw still getting their prizes to keep ?
Yes the winners of the first draw are still getting their prizes to keep. |
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Read it through, and it isn't provably fair. I'll provide a more detailed explanation soon. Let me know what you find as we want to be as transparent as possible. |
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Hi On the 09:08 to 12:08 Olympics Lottery (4 days), I have 6 tickets?!  The total number of entries is 814 which is also high. Please check to make sure all participants got only 1 ticket a day for a fair lottery. Which time zone is used for determining which day the bet was made? UTC? Hello You missed out on 2 tickets from the previous raffle, which were added to the next one. This is why you have 6 instead of 4 if I am looking at the right account that is! |
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Anyone received a lottery ticket for the 9th-12th today? I placed a bet on Olympics game yesterday, but I do not received ticket for it? Any delays or is it because I receive other ticket for the re-draw lottery so I do not get the ticket for the 9th-12th lottery?
Assuming your account is also called panjul07, In order to get a ticket you need to bet on Olympic games. It appears your bet was on an ITF event Can you confirm that to be the case? |
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Hi everyone!
We would like to apologize to all the users who missed out on the first Olympics raffle due to it being drawn too early.
To compensate for that we have created a new raffle which will be drawn on the 15th of August. All users who made a bet on the Olympics from 05.08 to 08.08 will receive one ticket for an equal chance of winning a prize.
We are still looking to improve the provably fair in order to have more accurate draw times. We appreciate all of your feedback and will definitely take it into account as first and foremost we build for the community.
The current system uses unique hashes from the blocks, and, when creating a raffle, we predict what block should be discovered around the same time when the raffle should be drawn. Upon the discovery of that block the draw is made.
On average, a block is discovered every 10 minutes or so, but it can skew by a lot, a good example is our first Olympics raffle where it was drawn 9 hours earlier due to multiple blocks being discovered hours apart from each other.
As always, any feedback and suggestions are highly welcome either here or for example by e-mail to our support.
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We will look into all options. At the end of the day, we want you guys to trust our lottery and that it is fair, and it is random.
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About the lottery it will be good if sportsbet make it live while choosing the winner
Just not possible but we're working on a guide to show users how it works and hopefully show that it's fair. or just use an escrow.  The purpose of the escrow would be to ensure that prizes will be paid but no one here ever doubted about it. Main concern seems to be the fairness ot the method winners of those prizes are chosen : and esxcrowing prizes wouldn't help thet way. quite complicated, I think this is just a reward to attract users. I think if you like to bet, do not think too much about the gift of the Raffle. but it's good everybody wants to see the justice of it. I think sportbet.io will not do the cheat for this lottery, because I myself was getting Raffle. although not often, only 1-2 times Indeed the main purpose of the lottery is to attract players to bet on their site and I also believe that sportsbet will not cheat, but since it is called a lottery so it should be provably fair. I also won few times during Euro and I happy with it, but it would be even better if we can verify the drawing. It is currently provably fair. We should instructions soon to make it easy for you to verify the drawing Thank you! |
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About the lottery it will be good if sportsbet make it live while choosing the winner
Just not possible but we're working on a guide to show users how it works and hopefully show that it's fair. |
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For the issues with the Lottery that everyone is looking for answers to:
The draw times are based on the block discovery times. We use an average discovery time to estimate the lottery draw time. For some reason currently the estimations are not so accurate therefore the lottery draw times are skewed more than we would like.
We were aiming to have the draw time maybe +- few minutes or less.
We are looking into why the estimated time of block arrival at the creation of the lottery is vastly different from the reality of when it is actually discovered.
We will compensate all users who have missed out on their tickets due to the lotteries being drawn too early. Before we do that though, we need to fix the underlining issue.
We will update you again as soon as possible.
Kind Regards
Sportsbet.io Support
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