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25061  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Historic price data on: October 09, 2017, 02:50:37 PM
I'm looking for a website that gives me the Bitcoin price for any date, in such a way that it can't be debated.
Usage: I want to make a prediction contest, in which the price on November 1 at a certain time(zone) has to be predicted.

Coinbase allows me to export data, but it can be debated. If I compare the CSV for 1w to 3m, it is inconsistent: at the same time and date, the price can vary slightly.

Bitcoinaverage has a graph that I can read the price from, but it uses my local time zone, and depending on how far I zoom in, it gives a slightly different price again.

What website can produce this? I know there is of course no "exact" Bitcoin price, but as long as the site gives a clear answer and nobody can influence it directly, it's fine by me.


No spam
All my threads are now self-moderated to stop signature spam. I will remove all irrelevant posts. If you quote the entire OP, your entry will be deleted.
25062  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: 1 BTC for sale in London. Will meet in person - trade for cash or bank transfer on: October 09, 2017, 10:28:29 AM
Been trading BTC since 2012 well trusted and reliable.
That's what they all say. Any proof?

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Or will do Bank Transfer if you go first.
Lol.

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I have a relationship with a number of miners who want to sell from time to time.
Give me one reason why they can't use an exchange.
25063  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] MIXER.TO - High Privacy Bitcoin Mixer on: October 09, 2017, 10:20:49 AM
WARNING! MIXER.TO HAS SCAMMED!
Read the rest of the thread for details (warning added October 29, 2017).

After bitmixer.io's announcement of stopping their operationg. There are a lot of new mixing services that are popping out.
Many scammers used websites similar to bitmixer's domain to lure people. They advertised on Google to trick people into using the fake website.
Since bitmixer closed, they're all popping up with different names now. On the one hand mixing is big business, bitmixer mixed more than a million coins last year, just 1% fee means they earned millions of dollars, so it's  an attractive market for new players to enter. On the other hand, they'll need to work hard on being trusted. Any Newbie who asks for a 0.01 BTC loan instantly gets red trust, but any mixer saying you can deposit 25 BTC can just do so.

The last mixer I criticized claims to own 2000 Bitcoin, but refuses to sign a message. Let me try here too: please sign this message:
Code:
Hi LoyceV, this is MIXER.TO on October 9, 2017, proving I have the funds I claim to have
If you send this by PM, I will publicly confirm the amount you signed from, without disclosing the address.

Our Bitcoin reserves have been increased.
From how much to how much?

October 29: I never received any reply from MIXER.TO. They haven't even been online again after October 8.
25064  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Where can you keep your BTC to get the free airdrop of BTC gold? on: October 09, 2017, 09:38:48 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Bitcoin Gold's snapshot has already been taken (and they're premining now). That means you could be too late if you still hve to move your Bitcoins to an address for which you control the private key. But this is just speculation, caused by the lack of information from the Bitcoin Gold team.

Before you import your private keys into a new wallet, make sure you move your Bitcoins to a new address first, for safety reasons.
25065  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Strategy for the next fork on: October 09, 2017, 08:46:52 AM
My strategy is simple: don't care too much Tongue

Think of it this way: first, there was Bitcoin. Then, people felt they "missed the train" to get it cheap, so they created altcoins. They hype their altcoin, make it go up in value 1000x, and sell it. That wasn't enough, so the newer altcoins used a premine: 5%, 10%, or even 90%. They earned a lot, until people started complaining about the premines and calling it shitcoins. Then, they created ICOs: instead of just premining and keeping it for themselves, they don't even create coins anymore, it's now "tokens" based on some other coin. The creator starts with not 5, not 10, not 90 but a full 100% of everything! And you can buy them. Take a moment to remember what you're buying: you're buying tokens created out of thin air with some unclear promise on future needs from a few unknown guys. I read ICOs earned $1.7 billion this year alone, it's the biggest hype in crypto ever! It's a great business model: earn money, forget about it, create the next ICO!
Now back to Bitcoin forks: it's the logical next step from people who want a quick buck: create something you have an advantage with, and convince people to buy it.
[end of short cynical altcoin history - by LoyceV]

Bitcoin Gold seems even less trustworthy than the rushed Bitcoin Cash fork. There's not much information about it, but there's only one reason to create any altcoin: make a PROFIT! I've read speculation about it, and wouldn't be surprised if it's true: the creators already took a snapshot, and have been premining ever since. When they finally announce their official fork, they'll be loaded in altcoins to sell off to anybody who buys them.
25066  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin core and bitcoin abc on the same computer? on: October 09, 2017, 08:22:27 AM
I did install it in a different directory, I even installed it on a different user.
On a proper Operating System, user directories shouldn't be able to touch eachother.
I don't trust many wallets, and keep most wallets in their own Virtual Machine. If you have enough disk space to add another full blockchain, and have some RAM to spare, I recommend to use VirtualBox for all (untrusted) altcoin wallets.
25067  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Chinese traders soon to be found on BISQ https://bisq.network/ on: October 09, 2017, 08:08:03 AM
They can't close this one: https://bisq.network/
Roadmap:
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Alpha Version 0.3.5
Released March 11th 2016

    New payment methods: National bank transfer, Transfer with same bank, Transfer with specific bank
And there's the problem: what good does trading crypto do you, if you can't transfer to and from your local bank? Because there's no doubt the government can close that connection.
25068  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Airdrops & Forks: An ongoing, updated list of Altcoin Giveaways on: October 08, 2017, 09:03:30 PM
Can you add an estimate of the value of each airdrop? I like airdrops, but I find it hard to keep up reading so many threads to see which ones are worth anything.
25069  Economy / Services / Re: Pretty Addy Giveaway - part 2 on: October 08, 2017, 08:47:24 PM
About the two other address, can you just delete or close that address 1PPSM and 1PAUL5? thanks again!
You can't "close" an address. When you put it like this, it sounds like you're talking about a bank account.
Just ignore the addresses you don't use, they don't influence the address you choose.
25070  Other / Meta / Re: Proposing a new ANN rule! on: October 08, 2017, 08:41:19 PM
What you're proposing just gives a higher work load for forum moderators, if they have to check hundreds of threads on complience.
Wouldn't it be easier to require them to buy advertising on the forum? That way Bitcointalk actually benefits from the many ICO-threads, while it proves dedication to their project. And since likely scams aren't allowed to advertise, they're instantly filtered out.

Minimum requirement i guess should be:
1 - Website up & running for the coin / token
ICO-websites all look the same nowadays, as if it's the same team pulling the same trick over and over again.

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2 - Posting coin / token then run away after collection members datas = BAN from bitcointalk
They don't care: new account, new name, new shitcoin with scamICO. They can do this over and over again.

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3 - Air Drop should be done by an old member in BCT for credibility of the air Drop.
Although this increases the chance of the airdrop actually happening, it doesn't turn a scamtoken into a real token. I for one wouldn't want to manage any campaign I don't believe in by myself.
25071  Other / Meta / Re: Connection problems. Too many RTOs on: October 08, 2017, 04:56:03 PM
Most of the day, I couldn't access Bitcointalk (like yesterday). But when I check http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/bitcointalk.org, it says "It's just you. bitcointalk.org is up.".
Does that mean the DDOS cuts off traffic from certain geographical areas only?
25072  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Should Address expiration time be added to BIP-173 ? on: October 08, 2017, 01:32:18 PM
Sometimes we have problems when an old address is used by someone who pays us frequently and we could just not want to use that address anymore.
When someone pays frequently, you wouldn't forget to inform him about his new deposit address, so I see no problem there.
When someone pays infrequently, and after 2 years just decides to make another payment without confirming the address with you, that's just dumb Tongue
Personally, I don't need it. Although I don't follow Satoshi's advice to never delete a wallet to the letter, the only way for someone to ever re-use an address I don't use anymore, is if he randomly finds an old used address on the blockchain and deposits to me. I doubt that will ever happen.

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If you want to read about BIP-173 this is the link to it:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0173.mediawiki
The article is quite technical, but while quickly scanning through it, the word "expiration" isn't mentioned even once. This one does:
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-September/015112.html
25073  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Find address with a certain number of bitcoins on: October 08, 2017, 01:10:49 PM
Yes you can. See How to read/parse blockchain and get bitcoin addresses having balance. for software that can do this.
But you'll need to download the full blockchain, and have quite a lot of RAM to run it. It might help if you say what you're trying to accomplish.

Much easier: use an older snapshot. Bitcore took a snapshot on April 23 this year. If you download the 140 MB .rar-file you have a list of all addresses holding 0.01 BTC or more on that date.
25074  Economy / Services / Re: Pretty Addy Giveaway - part 2 on: October 08, 2017, 12:42:57 PM
Public Key:
04961F2E2F3DD2BA9660C09D4926EBEC3DE0729C31DA190D19C71A9B3CB49C825E18EC67B94F3C4 29CF57688C07E2011B55104F46AEF20256C5A9F1B1CC2E82990

Prefix: 1PPSM or 1Paul5
Lower case L isn't possible. That leaves these options, pick one:
Address: 1PauL5ig66XNwW1LGcbvrJBPv96SaGNKj4 (Balance: )
PrivkeyPart: 5K473hPryYjzccmqJ96HvE6c71wKPPkAxJpys6iUvHdoehJk86m

Address: 1PPSM1zNStmq6bSjPyCpSPFD9e3cvovX7e (Balance: )
PrivkeyPart: 5Kb9G1GvsNTBq9kDKo7wSMhU3iL6EgkQzJSEgc6GQABWv6BhDH7

Address: 1PAUL5NPPAHtvjRHmx8Y1ScRiA2Xwmuba8 (Balance: )
PrivkeyPart: 5KBguTwTy9tXkz58heTCXJYxFKkYqZVUj9UiVtRAdYy9i5PqHVU

You can also use more than one, but if one would get compromised, they all are.
25075  Other / Meta / Re: Find text in a large thread on: October 07, 2017, 08:43:19 PM
Play around on Google a bit. Example:
Code:
site:https://bitcointalk.org asba "World’s First Blockchain Accounting Platform"
I found a long thread in your history, your post pops up on this search.
25076  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Signature Campaigns: New Rule Suggestion on: October 07, 2017, 06:24:06 PM
~ then campaign managers should aporove or denie within a day or call a date ~
Are you this worried to go a day without signature campaign?

You're looking at this from the wrong perspective. First, don't post crap. If you have decent posts, you can pick a campaign that will run long. I've been in my first signature campaign until the site closed, for about 18 months. Even though it didn't pay as good anymore at the end, I liked the site, which is worth a lot too.
When the site closed and the campaign ended, I took a few weeks to find a new campaign. No rush.

Let's put it this way: if you get rejected a lot, you shouldn't be in any signature campaign. Maybe that could be a new rule Cheesy
I take pride of being in a campaign who's manager rejects shitposting. My former campaign even offered a reward if you'd report spam to him.

Applicants on a signature campaign (which shouldn't be around in the first place) shouldn't rush the managers in any way since they're the ones who need something from the campaign.
Agreed. My (our Cheesy ) campaign manager easily takes 2 days to select 2 out of 20 applicants. This way he can cherry pick the best possible candidate.
25077  Other / Meta / Re: How to keep forum clean from similar and crap threads. on: October 07, 2017, 03:20:45 PM
Just a suggestion that if there would be some restrictions for "Newbie" and "Brand New" members that they can't start a new thread on the forum except "Beginners and Help" section then i think this will help to keep clean the forum.
I disagree! And this is coming from someone who hates spam. The reason: this will also take away any chance to create a thread from a knowledgeable person who doesn't spam the forum, while those are the people who create true value by posting.
You can't expect him to first spam enough posts to be Jr. Member before being able to open a real thread. I know these are a minority, but discouraging them takes away the last chance to get decent posters.

Most of replying users are involved in Sig campaigns , that's why such shit threads recieve thousands of replies .
Deleting entire threads is a much better solution. It seems this happens more often recently, as I've seen many recent threads from people complaining their post count went down. Assuming their signature campaign pays based on the total number of posts, that hurts them financially.
Sure, they'll open another thread, but if a moderator can trash 2000 posts with one click, I'd say it's an easy solution.

A much better solution is of course stricter rules for signature campaigns. I recently checked the post history of a few people enrolled in a certain signature campaign, and most of them were posting in Spam Megathreads*. This is just a small example, in my opinion they should all be deleted:
Is this for real? I could be a millionaire?
Teach Bitcoin in schools!
How to be rich in gambling?
Do you know anyone who became rich because of bitcoin? [deleted]
How does bitcoin helped me financialy [deleted]
how can we make PROFIT from Bitcoin?
How do you Panic?
Does your family know that you gamble with cryptocurrencies? [deleted]
How many ways are there to earn bitcoins?
are people using bitcoin really to buy things? [deleted]
Why is Bitcoin so expensive? [deleted]
How big is the influence of bitcoin on your life? [deleted]
How do you deal with loss?
What is Bitcoin to you?
How do you earn BTC? [deleted]
WHY DO PEOPLE DEPEND ON BITCOIN [deleted]
Who can destroy Bitcoin ?
Bitcoins To Cause Unemplyoments [deleted]
can we use bitcoin for buy a house ? [deleted]
Is Bitcoin giving HOPE to us? [deleted]
If campaign managers would do a better job, they wouldn't pay for these posts.

* I'm not sure who came up with this term, I saw it first used by DarkStar_
25078  Other / Meta / Re: Connection problems. Too many RTOs on: October 07, 2017, 02:59:48 PM
It's a large DDoS.
That's what I expected indeed.

Pages have barely been loading for me since today only, the rest of the week it worked fine.
Now it varies from "performing a TLS handshake" to "busy try again (504)". And in between I can post.
25079  Economy / Economics / Re: The Great Reflation Is Underway on: October 07, 2017, 02:34:02 PM
I had to search the meaning of the word Reflation. Wiki:
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Reflation is the act of stimulating the economy by increasing the money supply or by reducing taxes, seeking to bring the economy (specifically price level) back up to the long-term trend, following a dip in the business cycle.
While the European Central Bank largely increases the money supply, our national government (the Netherlands) has raised several taxes and increased the government's spending as a share of GDP since 2008. They also increased VAT, which further increases inflation. So they're doing one thing according to Wiki's definition, and the exact opposite on the other thing.

I totally understand, 9 long years after the global financial crisis, the elites just can't seem to get inflation going.  Every time there's any sign of it, the hope is quickly crushed.

Or so they say...  The truth is that the elites can *always* get inflation if they want it.  All they have to do is print money and issue public debt until they get the inflation.  So it's a matter of 'won't' rather than 'can't.'
As a family with some savings, we don't need inflation. ECB is still printing enough money to slowly inflate away savings, banks give very low interests, taxes on savings alone are 5 to 30 times higher than the interest the bank pays. We don't have a capital gain tax, which is very beneficial if you're rich and own a lot of assets, but the common man sees his savings slowly evaporate.

We'll see high inflation for a while, but probably lower in the US than in Europe and Japan.  We'll also see good job and economic growth, and lots of stimulus and redistribution to the poor from governments and central banks to keep social tension low.
This leads to the poor being okay, the rich being okay, and the middle class paying the bills.

Your post was very quickly buried by spammers inhabiting this section.
I like reading BobK71's point of view, but indeed, it barely pops up without actively searching for his posts.

What this system is not is a true free market.

This is all by design.  The modern system is designed to take wealth automatically from savers, to push them into risky assets, so they help sustain all the asset bubbles that benefit the elites.
So what can we do to change this? I see this happen around me indeed. The low savings interest, high tax, and increasing inflation forces people towards risky investments with money they can't afford to lose.
The one difference we have in recent times, is much more free information. But most people (me included) don't get much further than watching the occasional documentary about it, agreeing to what I just watched, and going on with my life because I can't change it.

Is it possible that even things like social security were engineered with an intent to divide the family unit under an illusion that the state & social security will provide for people, degrading families and communities in some subtle way?
Social security is meant to keep people in line: give them enough not to protest, and enough to keep make them depend on the system so they don't attack the system.
25080  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 07, 2017, 09:44:29 AM
Without a roadmap, no investor knows where the journey is going (and the developers themselves probably don't know either).

The community also sees this coin as nothing more than a non-performing income. It is completely irrelevant that this currency should have any utility value.
For months now, you literally only post in Byteball-threads, and you only complain about it. May I ask why? If you don't like it, that's totally fine, leave it and forget about it.
What's in it for you to keep telling over and over again how you don't like Byteball?

So, are you going to sell me your bytes.  Seems like you don't want them.  Smiley
Why should I do that? There is a good chance that something will come of it.
However, I will not change a single €uro to Bytes. As much as I'd like to.
So you're only complaining because your free Bytes went down in value?
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