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2541  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: October 11, 2016, 04:12:00 AM
Bitcoin or gold i would pick the gold off course because i know for sure that gold will hold his value till the end of the world off cousre and i know for sure that lots of people are not knowing that because they are only here to get information about the bitcoin and not the gold.

Not all the people are able to purchase gold so instead of investing with gold we are seeing bitcoin as a good alternative investment with gold.
And good thing that we are able to invest with bitcoin for it is just had the same characteristics with bitcoin. Even you are just going to wait for its price increase for a long time you will get profit.

For me, bitcoin is really a good investment than gold. Fact is, gold has no other way to transcat online just like that of fiat money - bitcoin does. Bitcoin can be used for gambling online, gold can't. Bitcoin can be easily traded even in a very small value and can be get anywhere easily just like through faucet or signature campaign - gold just can't. Bitcoin can also be use as salary for a work or job - you cannot easily work or do some services and the compensation is gold.
2542  Economy / Economics / Re: How good are you at managing your money on: October 11, 2016, 03:51:32 AM
I'm just spending/wasting most of earning (BTC only) for paying mobile bills only. Other expanses will be based on my day work and at the end nothing left to save for the future use. After my father's death, i'm the one who have to run my whole family. So, I can't afford to save. Still i'm trying my best to save pennies.
Paying for you mobile billing is not wasting money, you have use the services so you benefited on it, what I am trying to emphasize here is that we should have the capacity to determine the difference between wants and needs so we can manage our money well as what is important is to prioritize our needs over our wants.

That is correct. As long as you uses certain services on important things, then that is a need. Each individual had really different level of wants and needs - to some, owning a car is a necessity because they travel a lot and they use it to gain credibility in their business dealing; while others, car is just a want especially if their work is just online and they seldom go outside.
2543  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: October 11, 2016, 03:49:14 AM
You shouldn't quit trading after trading for such a while you probably gained a lot of experience and know where most of your mistakes are.
It's a waste to waste all this experience by just stopping cold turkey maybe try trading with low amounts of btc.
His weak from trading his just lost big amount of bitcoin but for me it is just an experience in trading so you would know where to use it properly and mistake is for learned and you will know what to do next , If he just waste his experience and just simple quit trading he can't just find another way to earn more bitcoins in the future NO MEANS NEXT OPPORTUNITY. Failure means you tried and you will be succeed soon Smiley just don't lose hope

Nicely put there mate. In trading, we either lost or learned. The most important thing is that you learn from your previous losses and continue trading in a more different approach. I for one, have some losses in trading and I learned a lot to not buy when the pump is halfway through. I would rather wait until the price settles and that is the time I execute my trade strategy.
2544  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 11, 2016, 03:45:54 AM
No I dont think what else is my reason to gamble if I already have a huge money. Maybe for I going to invest in some conpany fir the future of my children. The other way is build business building in some area of my country. Manage it so that more income of my children will come.

That is a very wise decision. Never ever put your hard earned money at greater risk in gambling. If you don't have any strategies, you will surely lose because of the casino house edge. That is how casinos are designed - to profit. Now, if you are good enough like that of the professional gamblers, then you are good to play on but if just started to gambling, then better think many times.
2545  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 11, 2016, 03:43:03 AM
I have brought them in some limits and rules whatever I play in gambling. My main reason still is the same but with different point of view which I got on experience. Now I have long term targets that makes me to go slow and place small bets most of the times now. Fun is secondary reason for me but I am not doing madness anymore like was before.
That's what you get when you are too experience, the ability to control our self in gambling can be learn and with that kind of attitude towards gambling we will surely enjoy gambling in the long run, although we cannot deny the fact that we still lose.

There are really people, whether experienced or not to gambling that is just very lucky enough and can easily win and at the same time have self control to stop when needed and not exposing themselves to house edge. They play and win easily and they stop betting just right on time with precision and discipline.
Well maybe those people are lucky thats why they can make a good profit.. honestly they are just few.
Just like us they are just playing for fun not for making profit but the result they are making a good profit..

Yah, gambling depends on luck so I don't think we can all expect a good profit.Basically, I gamble for just fun but I want profit also.if I don't get profit I don't get upset because I tell  my mind that I am gonna lose.So for this I don't bet big,always  bet small which I can afford to lose.

well i think it's not the case all the time. people who have experienced winning would most likely go on betting again this time not for fun anymore but to try to increase what they've won. same thing happens with those that lost, as they try to get back their losses they gamble again until they're let with none. it's hard to have self control when you're already thinking of the profit that you'll earn even if you are an experienced gambler
They maybe attracted to gamble because they think they have a shot in the long run but just later when they realize that they can never win in gambling in the long run, this people have already read more comments here regarding the experience of people in gambling which is mostly negative, but still they want to try it on their own.

They will still try it and they will eventually learn the negative things happened to their financial status the hard way and expensive way. Unless they are just playing for entertainment then they are good but the moment they will try their luck to play for profit and they have no any strategies in place, then they are really doomed to encounter losses.
2546  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: October 11, 2016, 03:32:47 AM
I don't know why but I always get a feeling to gamble, after then losing my money, I quit for some time and then continue, but I know I will lose my btc Sad

Why is it so addictive?

Its not addicted any way it is just that you get curious that you are going back your which is lost in your previous game. Hoping to coneback is real and get profit also. But if you do it several times in just one day being bullheadedness because of your badluck it is a probably addiction.

It's already addiction, since OP says that he/she "always" get a feeling to gamble after losing money, therefore he's been doing this for a long time now... I could conclude that  with those statement he/she is already addicted and I think it is because of those losing and the urge to gamble again with the sole purpose of winning...  Smiley


it may not be an addiction but just chasing of previous losses. However, this may really lead to gambling addiction when the chasing takes long and whether the gambler finally get back its losses or losses more, the gambler stills continue - this will then become an addiction and may mess up that gamblers life.
2547  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: October 11, 2016, 02:57:22 AM
Yes Girls do gamble i had seen a lot of girls gambling when i was playing poker in some gambling casino here in our country. Some of them we're part of the table i was playing and some are better than me on playing poker. And if you are talking about girls on online gambling casino my answer is also yes because i know some girls who are playing dice , poker and sportsbet in online gambling casinos

it is true about girls playing dice online casino. You can meet them at the chatrooms of these online casinos.. Some of them have really balls than me in terms of betting big amount of money. Although I have days where I am betting .1 to .5 in one session but those were the days and I am no longer returning to betting that kind amount of money now Smiley
2548  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 11, 2016, 02:53:23 AM
hi

i am getting addicted to gambling.And i am loosing a lot of money.I am loosing what i can't afford to lose.its sad that when you start loosing its just busted me again and again.at last i gamble for fun but now when i am getting addicted i am loosing too much.

Any suggestions are welcome  Smiley

Regards

Try to get more attraction than gambling. Well for me it is getting attracted in trading because theres is a lot people who is trading you see live. While when you are in gambling its you and the house only. Getting in the group of trading makes you get profit because there are so many of you trader. Team work either just follow the principle of trading.

I agree about trading that it is cool and somewhat profitable to trade cryptocurrencies in a group. However, I currently trading alone and I am interested also to mingle with group and see some group trading strategies.. May I know how to join or is there any existing group that you recommend? I wanna join. Thanks in  advance!
2549  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: October 10, 2016, 02:10:29 PM
Why is someone get addicted to gambling once he gamble ?
Once he gambled and win or lose he is going to play gambling again the excitement and the thrill whenever he plays gambling is always make so much fun evendo where loosing such money in gambling sites and if you are lose your going to deposit again because you want to back your money but you cant

Yeah, when he lose on gambling, he will bet more to win back his loses and when he win, he want win more and become greedy. Gambling is really addictive.
maybe it's true. The more you play the gambling game, you will be hooked. Well, maybe you do not feel it directly, but if you lose money in the game, you will continue to deposit money you have and keep playing in the hope that the lost money back again, but it would be very difficult to happen.

That is right and here is my humble piece of advice: If you really don't want to become a professional gambler and spend most of your days gambling and you are after to profit from gambling, then better stop that attempt to strat gambling. It is a ver risky game and you are better off working hard than gambling hard.
My opinion is gambling is only for those who are already earning some decent amount of income from their job or business then they can plan that playing 10-20% on their earnings on gambling and a loss wont affect that much.But depending only on gambling can be destroy the life.

That 10%-20% of your hard earned income is quite big already if you just let it be risk in gambling. For me, I would rather play 1% of my entire income and I will be happy whatever the outcome would be - win or lose. But with 10-20% loss, that is quite big and I am no way of risking that kind of percentage of my entire money.
2550  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 10, 2016, 02:07:24 PM
gambling is just fun and what you do in your leisure time and during vacations,do you think that the people who come over to vegas are poor chaps ,if i wake up with $50 million it would vanish when i open my eyes since it will be a damn dream

haha.. you are funny mate but really make sense. People who play in physical casinos, majority of them are rich and just pay there for fun and not really for profit. Of course, there are also other people in there that are playing seriously for profit and these are the professional gamblers. But overall, mostly rich gambles for socialization and entertainment.
2551  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: October 10, 2016, 02:05:03 PM
It will be hard to quit on gambling if the people already lost much money on gambling and they become addictive into gambling. It will be more harder to quit on gambling.
Yes it is really hard to quit on gambling right now people are want to have fun always and make some entertainment when they are playing gambling loosing money are making them more addictive into gambling if they play more there are big chance that they are going to hard player and hard to quit.
gambling has a very great interest, so if you've played it, you'll easily influenced and maybe you'll be hooked. addicted to gambling it would be hard if you do not have the money, and it will make you owe. a lot of people who want to get out but it was very difficult. but if you bsia changing patterns of life, ranging from hobbies, social, and others, perhaps you could get out of gambling slowly

Gambling is really an entertainment game and when you play it, you will surely be entertained and you want to play more. Your money that you bet aggravates more the excitement that if will not be controlled by us will lead to gambling addiction. If you lose and don't know what to do, you will keep on chasing your losses and ended up losing more.
2552  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: October 10, 2016, 02:02:23 PM
There is one thing i would never do and that is quitiing my day job to go full into the bitcoin you know there is allot of money to earn with the bitcoin and going all in is never
a good idea so when you want to make money with the bitcoin make surte your job is not affecting it.

I could not agree more. You were right there mate. I made this mistake before and it will never happen again. I am now working back with my clients and I just earn bitcoins as my side income and not really the main source of my income. I am now feel much secure and happy at the moment compared to few months ago.
2553  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 10, 2016, 01:56:49 PM
Not rich actually but I guess i am getting profit in gambling unlike in investing. I am so disappointed because I will always be scam at this program that is why I hate this program than in gambling. Most I love is trading.
Not only you but no one is rich from gambling,all those who commented here no one has become rich with the gambling and even many are in loss overall after gambling so its good to know that you are getting profit in the gambling because theere are not many like you.

He is a lucky man. Maybe he has his own method of winning not relying in bot or script. Because if he is relying on that formula he is totally hating also gambling. And not playing gambling in his whole life. Ha ha. Share your thoughts in gambling man and I will go for it. Test it if I can win also. Thanks!

Bot takes away the emotion part of gambling but exposes a lot to house edge. The reason is that it keeps on playing on and never be able to predict a certain occurrence that the odds is already going on the other side. Hence, it is still the experienced gambler that wins in the end of the day. The once that get rich to gambling are the professional gamblers and the very lucky guy.
Bot won't work in gambling where there is a house edge, that should be understand by every gamble who are just trying to fool themselves, in dice games where we are mostly using both we will still lose in the long run so that would not really work. The only people who can be rich in gambling are those playing a skilled based games.

That is correct. The fact that there is a house edge in the casino only means that is not a fair fight. You will surely lose more than you ever win. So, if you bet big amount of your hard earned money and lost, you will tend to chase it  and lose more - unless you are lucky enough and you win it back easily by betting a very risky odds.
2554  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 10, 2016, 01:54:30 PM
I also feel very difficult to leave the gambling we already addiction. but still no way to leave the gambling. you can do a new hobby more interesting so that you will forget gambling

If you have nothing to do and just gamble all day long, then it will really be hard for you to leave that gambling addiction because your attention and focus are still at gambling - you have no diversions. It is really better to go outside and socialize with people and maybe do some volunteer work for charity and that way, you will get to meet new friends and enjoy life outdoor.
thats a good advise making your time worthy and placing your mind into something profitable and not just thinking about going back to play gamble again, its an addiction thats really hard to removed from our minds specially when something is really engaging us thinking that we really knows what we are doing trying to defeat the house.

as long as we have fixed and determined decision to stop gambling for good, then there is no reason for us to finally get rid of gambling to our lives. I can say this personally because I just stopped heavy gambling and just play sometimes with the amount that I personally know that could not affect my entire life if I will lose it.

Correct as  long  as you have the will to quit gambling for good  then for sure  you would really do it  , Its all depend on your mind and willingness to stop gambling if you really want to quit you could really quit anytime you want.

That is definitely right. It is just a decision away. If you truly decide with all conviction to stop gambling then you can do it even without any medical or professional interventions. Try to check the people on the third world countries, there are some of them that get addicted to gambling and yet, they were able to overcome the addiction by themeselves.
2555  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: October 10, 2016, 01:51:37 PM
'm save my money on bitcoins. with hold bitcoin this will be a good trading this are long-term investment, but for short-term i do it on trading ALTcoin. why not with a take a part for some chance there
its good idea to save money in bitcoin because bitcoin is very secure and safe investment and you are right that that trading in bitcoin with long term investment then we can get a big profit from bitcoin and there is a lot of people are going to buy bitcoin in huge amount and then hold their bitcoin for long term investment .
Yeah you are right that saving money in bitcoin is very good because bitcoin increasing its price too much faster and bitcoin is really very safe investment and we can get a good profit from bitcoin in the near future if we hold our bitcoin.

I am with you that bitcoin is really a good investment and its price will eventually go high as time goes by.. However, I would rather not allocate most of my money to bitcoin alone - I prefer to diversify my assets just to mitigate any for of risks - which there are many risks out there really. Invest only what you can afford to lose also.
2556  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: October 10, 2016, 01:48:57 PM
Gambling is sickness if you re addicted gambler , losing your hard earned money and still coming back despite this. But if you gamble with small amount just for fun i don't think its so bad.

With gambling at the beginning everyone decides of placing small amount, but if winning take place then automatically mind becomes greedy and makes the gambler to go for big amount. This at times described as sickness as well addiction when the person doesn't have a mind to concentrate upon other activities similar to a day job.

Everyone start gambling with small amount only, but once they began to win their bet yes automatically they will increase their betting amount. Yes in that time everyone will become greedy, so in that time nothing will stop them, for this kind of people gambling is considered as sickness.
That is what you called being greedy in gambling, normally those who are looking for money in gambling become greedy and we know with that kind of attitude will not bring success, when you win you still want for more and when you lose you will really chase your bets.

That is right about us never stopping when we win and bet more hoping to win more and when we are losing, we try to always chase our losses. That is precisely what professional gamblers are capitalizing with their techniques also - they just know when to stop when they are winning and do it with discipline. If they lose a session, they don't tend to chase their losses and just keeping their cool.
Maybe if we have that self discipline in gambling that is the time we can get serious in gambling and put a bigger bankroll, with lack of discipline our bankroll is in danger as we are playing with our emotions and when you are in sports you cannot be successful as odd makers are good in making the lines appear to be winnable for the public but in the end it will not win.

If you play on a longer period and heavily play with emotions, then you are going to lose. Of course, there are times that you will win but the chances of losing more is very coming due to house edge. Hence, if you really want that emotion fills in in your gambling, then better only bet an amount that you can willingly afford to lose.
2557  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 10, 2016, 01:46:43 PM
If I were rich, I would make one crazy highroll session and never return again, there are much more better ways to spend excess money, like charity or donations on some projects you'd like to see, or you can support your favorite artists. I think those things would mean much more than gambling for most people.
Because you're not going to problem your money , money are going to down you if you are going to do high roll session and if you lose then are going to make cry try to donate that yon chapels and you will feel much more happy like charity on what you are said on the comment if you want to gambling just bet low

I know you are not English native speaker just like me - I was really touched and understood well what you are saying about instead of gambling, we should rather go and donate to chapel and charity - that is really true, the feeling it gives is immense and it feels like you are in cloud 9- you will also be blessed more.
2558  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: October 10, 2016, 01:44:27 PM
Why is someone get addicted to gambling once he gamble ?
Once he gambled and win or lose he is going to play gambling again the excitement and the thrill whenever he plays gambling is always make so much fun evendo where loosing such money in gambling sites and if you are lose your going to deposit again because you want to back your money but you cant

Yeah, when he lose on gambling, he will bet more to win back his loses and when he win, he want win more and become greedy. Gambling is really addictive.
maybe it's true. The more you play the gambling game, you will be hooked. Well, maybe you do not feel it directly, but if you lose money in the game, you will continue to deposit money you have and keep playing in the hope that the lost money back again, but it would be very difficult to happen.

That is right and here is my humble piece of advice: If you really don't want to become a professional gambler and spend most of your days gambling and you are after to profit from gambling, then better stop that attempt to strat gambling. It is a ver risky game and you are better off working hard than gambling hard.
2559  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 10, 2016, 01:42:03 PM
I don't see gambling just in perspective of making money only. There are other thing which can be seen in it. As of money I also have wasted lot of money in gambling so far. I have gained experience in change or I can say I paid for this process of experiencing. Gambling has cleared many imaginary thoughts and I see good effects overall on my life as whole.

We either lose or learn. The good thing is that even though we lost, at least we learn from it. Today, my take on gambling is just really for fun (which is really what it was design for) and also my way of releasing stress. The reason being is that, I am not really afraid to lose because I only bet a certain amount of my money that I can really afford to lose.
2560  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 10, 2016, 01:37:44 PM
For 1btc, I think better to Gamble or to Invest...
find some tipsters here and follow them for some profit 1st...
For 1 bitcoin ofcourse there are always be a dumb ass who are going to gamble that because he always want to be richer in minute but if im going to ask what am i going to do with that bitcoin im going to trade that into another currencies it is much more safer and we can double it from there safety

Even in trading, there is always a risk but not that high as in gambling. Therefore, even in trading you will also have the risk of losing all of your bankroll if you are not a good trader - even if you think that you are buying low and will be selling it high and only to find out that the price will going down big time.
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