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1581  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: July 25, 2017, 03:22:57 AM
Bitcoin or gold ?
How about, both ?  Smiley
Yep! That would be nice strategy to invest in both. But as compared to bitcoins, gold is nothing. Gold is very much steady for last many years. We have not witnessed any sharp increase in its value where as bitcoins have given ride to moon to its supporters within few years. Bitcoins have the potential to make you rich within short time spam which obviously gold lacks. In short, bitcoins are best.

If you invest to both gold and bitcoin, it is just like buying two cars - both cars are quality high-end cars. The first one (which is gold) is only used for party and especially occasions; while the other one (which is Bitcoin) is for a long hour drive and for racing. They are both good cars and they are both cool to have.
1582  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to earn Bitcoin without investment on: July 25, 2017, 03:15:52 AM
I joined a campaign and after I earned I used it for trading
I never actually really invest real money in here.
Just time  Cheesy

That is the wise decision to make especially if you have much time in your hand. Once you accumulated many coins and money, it is time to leverage and buy time for money - this is the only way we will become truly satisfied - buy time for money and enjoy more time, quality time with the very important peo.ple in your life.
1583  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do YOU sell? on: July 25, 2017, 03:13:33 AM
This time I will write for ether trade. Ether prices are pressed between 0.11 and 0.08 zone. I'm currently doing arbitrage to make profit and it works. Buying from 0.08 zone and selling it between 0.10 and 0.11 zone. This pattern keep going now for ether trades.

I remember that I did this before trading with monero - it was really profitable and seems not going to end. But when it goes down, my coins were imprisoned for a couple of months until I give up on it and venture another coin - I did have winning trades here and there but not as good with monero during its prime days.
1584  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: July 25, 2017, 03:10:05 AM
What are the things to do to succeed in trade? What are you doing to make your business bigger?
How can we make more money?
First you should know clearly about the market or product in which you are going to deal.You should do your own research instead of following the market blindly.You should have patience in trading and you should not get panic under any conditions.Finding the most under valued asset is the key to gain more profits.

Aside from being patience in trading , I think the other quickest way to make a lot of money is Betting, which is something that we know a lot about. It's a completely legal, it's tax free, and if you follow the instructions, it's guaranteed to make you money, but be careful and limit yourself on betting.

There is really no guarantee with betting or any for form of gambling because it is a high risk games - the reason is that online and offline casinos have this house edge advantage that at the end of the day they will going to profit against the entire gamblers combined playing on their casinos.
1585  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Criminality and Bitcoin on: July 25, 2017, 03:07:37 AM
I'm really sad that now bitcoin has started to get bad reputation because it is a easy way of doing illegal things and with some many accessories being introduced to bitcoin it keeps getting easier for to use bitcoin network for illegal purposes and I'm scared that because of this bitcoin doesn't get banned

Fiat currencies like the US dollar are used every day to perpetrate crime but they don't get banned so why lump thus on Bitcoin now? It just doesn't make sense to think Bitcoin is going to be banned because people use it for illegality, we can't control how people should use their money, can we?

That is true mate. There is no way to ban a certain fiat or any form of currencies like Bitcoin if its main features are for the convenience of the consumers and offer a lot of value. The people who will have the bitcoin or fiat money is responsible for his actions of using it and it is not the fiat or bitcoins that will get blamed of any illegal transactions whatsoever.
1586  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: July 25, 2017, 03:05:13 AM
Playing Blackjack and/or Dice - the easiest way to make a profit from gambling! Wink

Right but we need to be careful because there is a great risks along with the great potential gain - please be aware that dice game is a game base on pure luck - although you can mitigate those risks by bankroll management, creating many sessions, solid plan to bet and stop according to your pre-planned betting and the like.
1587  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: July 24, 2017, 05:52:40 PM
Lost in both: Altcoin speculation and bitcoin casinos. But the difference is obviously. Bitcoin casinos make more fun but you can nothing do to make secure winnings. So depends on luck. You also could win if you could play martingale without restrictions, what is not possible. The success of altcoin speculations depends on luck and knowledge.

I suggest going either on trading or buying some shares to ICO site. If you have full knowledge about the business and you see some potential, then you are up for a good gains in the last quarter of the year I guess.
1588  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Alts fall, Bitcoin falls ... where is the money going? on: July 24, 2017, 05:48:21 PM
Hi

Thread title says it basically.

Almost all Altcoins are currently falling, which means they are dumped for Bitcoins.

So Bitcoins should be bought and therefore rising => but they are also falling.

Why is that?
Its not really necessary for those who sold their alts just to buy bitcoins since some of those holders do tend to sell off for cashing out on fiat without the plan on putting or buying again on bitcoin and they are not always been correlated which means random dips and rises would really be seen. If you see reds either on bitcoin or alts then just one thing to be say on which people are switching out to fiat.
yes you are right the bitcoin is not same for those of sellers and the investors. Personally I think the panic selling can give you loss instead of profit but the reason behind selling bitcoin is common by all now as there are some traders they look for the fast profit and they want to get rich as fast as they can they don’t wait for the price to get more high.

It potentially goes to people that have bought on panic selling and sell when people are greedy. This is easier said than done though.
1589  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: July 24, 2017, 05:44:08 PM
Trading is like a gambling that you need to bet. Because you don't know what coins were gonna raised up. However it easy to project the coins than to predict the fluctuation of coins.

Yes there are the same. Trading is like you will wager your bitcoins and will wait if your bought coins are going to increase its value. Like in gambling you will wager and you don't have an idea if you are going to win.
You bet on a coin in trading to go up or down but you will not lose directly when you are wrong because you can still wait for it
to go up but in gambling you are given a chance to choose and if you are wrong you will have to pay for the play.
That's the difference, also there is a house edge in gambling but there's none in trading
Gambling and trading are poles apart. Gambling is a game of risks and there is no gray area in gambling, either you win or lose badly. But in trading, things are totally different. Here you can buy and sell coins according to your will and if you lose some money, that’s definite to recover soon. Trading involves proper research but gambling is not like that.

In trading, you need to also use your technical skills in order to have some successful needs.
1590  Other / Off-topic / Re: Would you give bitcoin as a wedding gift? on: July 24, 2017, 05:38:39 PM
If the person getting married is a bitcoiner then he would love accepting his gifts in bitcoin. Personally, I would too accept bitcoin as a gift for my wedding but some people who dont know about bitcoin would not prefer it. Anyways its a gift so cant refuse. Bitcoin can really be used for retirement, securing future, education, etc

I am most likely certain that most of the communities in different countries know already the value and potential of bitcoins and for those who have not learn yet in the wedding area, you will get them excited and be able to help them in investing to one of the best investment online so far.
1591  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: July 24, 2017, 05:36:00 PM
I think that gambling is not a good way for a stable earning, only if you do not become the owner of gambling sites, because there is no strategy, there you can rely only on luck.

But own a gambling also required so much hard work to keep it running in healthy environment and make it attractive for people to use this site on daily basis or when they have time to play there. Nothing easy to make profit in gambling world. On this point I am agreed with you gambling is just based on our luck in most games.

You are true there that gambling is most likely a game of luck. There are other few also that are aside from luck, there is also corresponding skills that you are going to learn in order for you to win more than lose.
1592  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to earn Bitcoin without investment on: July 24, 2017, 05:33:59 PM
The fact is that there is nothing that you're going to get for nothing you have to consider that your time is investment also. You have to consider that the electricity that you used to generate any kind of coins is an investment. You have to consider that the wear and tear on your PC is an investment. Even if you download the simplest easiest lowest difficulty coin out there in mine a million of them and then sell those million at a dollar a piece there still was and investment in the beginning there was an investment in electricity there was an investment in time and there was an investment and wear-and-tear on your computer they may have been virtually nothing but there was investment.

Literally yes. but I think what the OP was trying to say is that she already has what it takes to earn Bitcoin and is willing to spend some time in order to accumulate bitcoins. That is why connection doesn't seem to really affect the person who asks this question because he/she can even manage to post here Smiley
1593  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: July 24, 2017, 05:30:30 PM
Why is someone get addicted to gambling once he gamble ?

I think that the fact that you can easily get your money instantly and the chance of doubling your money in an instant makes gambling addictive. It's true that gambling is entertaining, but it can also take away all of your money. I think that nobody wins in gambling, even if you win today if you'll compute the money that you've spent on gambling you'll still end up losing.
The chance of winning makes you want to do it often especially if you are winning. The feeling in your head and your body produces more dopamine and makes you want to play more but when the greediness kicks in, you should stop. Put limits to yourself in order to stop the greediness.

Because gambling can make you happy and humans will always want to get happy. That is one of so many reason why people get addicted to gambling.
It's Normal but good for you if you are not get addicted and greedy.

If we are not in control of our emotions when we are gambling, then there is really a big chance that we can get greedy. That is why, we need to master first how to control our emotions so that we can think clearly when we are going to stop or still go gamble.
1594  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Criminality and Bitcoin on: July 24, 2017, 05:28:00 PM
Bitcoin has nothing to do with increase in criminality ratio.Criminality existed even before bitcoin was created and it would even exist in future if bitcoin disappears.Even if criminals want to use crypto currencies and hide their identity,they would go with mo nero or zcash which are fully anonymous and would not use bitcoins since bitcoin is pseudo anonymous.Bitcoin transactions could be easily traced unless sevices liking mixing bitcons is used.

spot on! criimnalities are already in existence even before the creation of bitcoins. Hence, criminals can get away with using either fiat money or cryptocurrencies like bitcoin, monero, and more coins. Bitcoin, just like fiat money, has really no control over the mind hold it.
1595  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: July 24, 2017, 05:25:42 PM
as I know experience is important in some gambling games such as poker, but how about the other games like dice game or roulette, do you gain any advantage from your experience, can you used your experience to win the game? or maybe because of your experience you know whether to bet low or high in dice game

So Does Experience matter to you?
It depends on the type of gambling game, if it requires skills, then experience is needed, but if the gambling is just based on just luck, then experience will not be usable on this kind of gambling game. Some of the gambling games that i've played is the gambling game that doesn't require that experience in order for you to win, most of the gambling games i've known is based on luck and not experiences.

games like slots and dice are games that are base on pure luck. although you can strategies the session games, bankroll management, and pre-planned bettings, it is still very risky because there is no skill involve like that of poker games and sportsbetting.
1596  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some people prefer Bitcoin over fiat ? on: July 24, 2017, 05:03:20 PM
Because of its acceptability and credibility...
Bitcoin has already created versatile criteria regarding use it, not only that it is being accepted in many sources. bitcoin has also gained huge value in recent years, especially in the recent few months. so there are a lot of reasons to choose Bitcoin rather than any other crypto currency.
yes thats it, and we can say that we want more the bitcoin rather than fiat because of its value, why? bitcoin value is very huge now compared to others we may also say that we want it more because of its anonymously , we can make transactions without the knowing of others thats why i like it too. thats the thing that i wanted most.

Except cash is 100% anonymous where as bitcoin is only partially anonymous. Bitcoin is not popular despite its value, at least not as a currency. Bitcoin is only popular as an investment.

I get the impression people spew out crap in poor English only to fill the blank spaces for their own monetary rather than actually thinking about or even caring about the discussion at hand.
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Bitcoin is not popular despite its value, at least not as a currency.
Bitcoin is popular as a digital currency that's why more it's being used as a payments anonymously and without a high fees like taxes.
Well cash in hands is 100% anonymous compared to the money in the banks and debit/credit cards but it has huge taxes fees.

this is what really makes bitcoin gain a popular approval of the people using it. There is just so much convenience in bitcoin than just with fiat money. Bitcoin is promising and can increase its value in a long period of time.
1597  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: July 24, 2017, 05:01:11 PM
as i am a newbie.. i know nothing about trading... what should i do to start trading and multiply my btc.. guys please help me

The great thing about altcoin trading is that you can start very small, the ones that make it grow in Value thousands of percent. Kind of like Penny trading.

With altcoins, it is really a good idea to research on an ICO. This is really one of the most profitable ways to earn more compared to just gambilng our money and investing to scam sites.
1598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: July 24, 2017, 04:38:09 PM
I think that gambling is not a good way for a stable earning, only if you do not become the owner of gambling sites, because there is no strategy, there you can rely only on luck.

Yes, i agree with your point that gambling is not a perfect way, where we discuss that how we get easiest way to make rich.
Because we are wrong in one point because gambling is easy to play but earn wise, it is hard and gambling not give us easy way to win and earn money.
If gambling give us easiest way than why we think that gambling is full of risky way?

Gambling is not perfect and too risky because of the house edge advantage. The casino, whether it is online or offline have long been setting up the turn around of the bets and that they are going to have more chances of winning than losing over the gamblers - although there will be  quite a few that will win out of luck but overall, it is the casino that is going to win.
1599  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 24, 2017, 04:28:30 PM
I suggest you to just store most of your bitcoin in cold storage and print out the private key in paper and store it safe. This will make you unable to send bitcoin easily. I was also addicted to gambling before, and also delete bookmarks of gambling sites and clear the cache. Cool

It is like taking drugs and heroin too. I don't know one most probable reason is the money that is involved. When you win once, you want more so you try more to win more. When you lose, you want to try harder all the more for a hope that maybe this time you are going to win, but you lost again so another try maybe this time you will be lucky until you finish all that you have in a hope that you will get more. So better not even try gambling at all.

In everything, once we get hooked on it and already part of our daily habits, then we think that it is just normal that is why most of the people that get addicted to gambling most likely are not aware that they are already addicted to it because they think that it is just  normal.
1600  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: July 24, 2017, 03:48:28 PM
What are the things to do to succeed in trade? What are you doing to make your business bigger?
How can we make more money?
We need to have a lot of patience with it comes in trading to get succeed, because for me when you start to trade today, in the next 5 to 10 years your investment will increase for sure. We can make money to have a stable job and at the same time, earn bitcoin, trade, gamble or work under signature campaign. It’s up to us on how we can settle things at the same time.

I feel this. At the moment, I am really having a hard time in managing myself to do my client projects, trading, sports betting, and a signature campaign. But I always remind myself that this is a good problem to have because either what you do you are making money compared to not having any opportunities at all.
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