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2561  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: October 10, 2016, 01:35:04 PM
It will be hard to quit on gambling if the people already lost much money on gambling and they become addictive into gambling. It will be more harder to quit on gambling.
Yes it is really hard to quit on gambling right now people are want to have fun always and make some entertainment when they are playing gambling loosing money are making them more addictive into gambling if they play more there are big chance that they are going to hard player and hard to quit.

It is like being addicted to video games, you seem to always wanna play even if you are outside the house, your hands are really itchy and want to start playing already. Much more that losing money to gambling aggravates the entire situation and we tend to chase those losses and ended up losing more and more in the process.
2562  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: October 10, 2016, 01:32:58 PM
I do not gamble to much but it always seems that when I do, I take the loss big time.  For example, I have lost over 3 BTC in the BustaBit game online.  It is fun and I like to play but I always get greedy with it.  I have won about 2.2 BTC back, but I lost more than what I have won.  For some odd reason, I keep coming back over and over.  I do not know why I do it, why do you?
Me too im not gamble that much i always keep my money or bitcoin for my future needs like buying some clothes and etc because lossing big its gonna broke you forever if you lost over 3 bitcoin in gambling for sure you will never played gambling for sure but if you are going to chase that you are just comming back to lose bitcoin again haha

That is the reason why I quit gambling already - except that I play sometimes with sportsbetting. I realized that it is not really easy to win the casino - not easy to fight a game that is unfair at the beginning because house has the edge over you. The hardest part is that you alloted much of your time playing and it turned out that you are only breaking even and you lost much of your time already without any good return.
2563  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: October 10, 2016, 01:29:58 PM
gambling addiction is a horrible thing, because it will make you lose a lot of money, you might think that you have unbeatable strategy but it is impossible

making strategies  in gambling doesnt make sense since theres no strategy on gambling  and  you would definitely lose money when you play gambling because of the house edge. Gambling addiction is  so hard to remove  from yourself especially when you are already got  hooked into it,
I also never understand why people think that there is a strategy that will never be beaten in the world, because strategies are just going to maybe make you survive longer in the run, but the actual winnings depend only and only on luck. Some guys do prerolls lol in dice haha

That is really true and I could not agree more. Strategies are there to make professional gamblers get a chance to be more lucky and play on for a longer period of time. They have these calculations and amount of sessions in place. Also, professional gamblers know when to stop when necessary and not chasing any loss.
2564  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 10, 2016, 01:27:12 PM
Gambling is never fix my life, it's make my life become worse and wreck my life so bad. I already lose so much money on gambling. I hope all my money that i lose on gambling can return.

That's normal, gambling works like that, it will just get all the money that you fund in your bankroll. I think you should not expect to win back what was gone in gambling, that would just double your burden and probably would just cause another problem.
which needed to make more attention because since you already got lost with your money you will make more moves to regain loses ending it up to make more loses and started to collapsed your finances and wrecked your life.

It is always a generally accepted advice when in terms to gambling that, never ever chase your loses. Take a breath and play again next time because when you chase your loses, there is a big chances that you will get wreck because the house edge is already currently working against you at the moment.
Maybe it is just a matter of self discipline, in gambling we need to learn how to manage our bankroll properly and if we are really a real gambler we have to make a real game plan and we should implement it when gambling and no method shall be use but only what is in the game plan.

this is true - this is what really the professional gamblers does. They have a careful plan and pre-planned bets coupled with discipline and proper bankroll management.. They always play base on numbers and all their bets are well calculated so as to mitigate the risk. Their strategies is not to win all the time but to mitigate risk and to win more than losing.
I think professional gamblers do not use their emotions and they are like a machine who only implement their game plan, I wish I could be like them in the future as it is good to earn income in gambling as you do not need to work hard just to earn regularly.

That is right, they are like robots playing without emotions - they only let emotions come in when they cash out. Regarding not working hard regularly, I guess it is not really the case. Because professional gamblers do hard at work in terms of calculating and preparing their plans and as well as testing out their plans. They really are doing the hard work in their preparations - there is really no easy money at all.
2565  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: October 10, 2016, 01:23:41 PM
hello, I would like to try my luck from gambling.

what kind of gambling that you think is easy to make a profit? and what strategies are you using?

I'm not sure whether you are joking or not but your question about "the easiest way" to make a profit from gambling looks like a joke to me, because it's impossible to name even a hard way.

Well of course I can tell you that you can go on a reputable dice site, make a bet 0.01 BTC with 0.01% winning chance and you will win 99 BTC risking only 0.01, but the probability of this is very slim.

that is so true. House edge is our enemy when we gamble - casinos are designed to win over the gamers. We should only take gambling as for fun and entertainment and only play a certain amount that it won't really hurt us when we lost certain bets. And as what many gamblers are saying and advising, if it ain't no longer fun, stop betting already.

That is what it is told that Dont play high in gambling casinos as you cannot win against the House Edge. It is better that you can bet on sports betting. As their you can win with analysis and doing reports of the teams and their past performances.

So their is not easiest way of making profit in gambling casinos but you can do it in sports betting where if you do some work of preparing reports of the matches and teams you can win easily.

That is so true. It boils down to the basic that in order for us to make a good amount of profit or money, we need to work hard and smart for it. Let us not be like some of the gamblers you just bet randomly and cross their fingers that they will win big amount of profit - this is laziness to the highest level - better work and earn a descent living that is based on hardwork.
2566  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: October 10, 2016, 01:20:46 PM
I wouldn't quit my day job to go full time on bitcoin I don't have the money to sustain myself if I don't work fulltime.
I wonder how people could make 2-3k usd by just bitcoin every month, I don't think trading could earn this much or does it..

People are earning a best living only from trading but the fact is to earn that amount you also need to have huge capital to invest and if you can manage that then you can get full time into it.

yeah i think bitcoin can very well support you as long as you have a good capital and you know how to read how stakes work. i myself am trying to study bitcoin trading because i m planning on going full time around next year so hopefully this works out good for me

good luck mate. You are right, as long as you have quite good amount of bankroll, then it is ideal to trade bitcoins with other altcoins. The reason is that, the profit in small amount bankroll is not significant and will only make you bored of trading. Hence, when you trade, better trade with desirable amount of bankroll and try to know the strategies their as well.
2567  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: October 10, 2016, 01:18:22 PM
Why is someone get addicted to gambling once he gamble ?
Once he gambled and win or lose he is going to play gambling again the excitement and the thrill whenever he plays gambling is always make so much fun evendo where loosing such money in gambling sites and if you are lose your going to deposit again because you want to back your money but you cant

That is because gambling is made for entertainment. That is really the basic reason why people get to play more in gambling. Now, the money thing aggravates that excitement. Hence, we should only gamble money that we can afford to lose because gambling is a very big risk if you want to profit from it, better stop at once unless you want to become a professional gambler and spend most of your time gambling.
2568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 10, 2016, 01:15:28 PM

The problem for those people they are looking for instant profit that he didnt know that they can make a good profit gambling is for fun not for source of making money for free.. but people thinking that they can easily make money in gambling..
That's true and that is really one problem of some people, they cannot manage their greediness. And their greediness is the key of their being addiction in gambling.
Some people are really greedy on wealth where there are looking for the money and they don't really know the risk that they are facing off already people can't make profit that easy they think that bitcoin gambling is like an atm machine hahaha that reason why all gambling website are rich because of this kind of people
There is always a price for being greedy in gambling and they have bear more loses if they will choose to gamble for money. That is the risk that every gambler should understand so they will not blame gambling for their misfortune if case they fail, they should learn that gambling is risky and our chances is lesser compared to gambling sites.
There always be price for being greedy on gambling ofcourse you will be lose forever and you will not win Tongue as you can see on the gambling sites there are so much trick there once you are going to bet low you are going to win but once you bet high your going to lose the risk you always take are imposible to make you win.

Regarding your last statement about we win when we bet low and lose when we bet high - in my humble opinion that is not true. There is always odds when we gamble and the amount of money that we bet is not the deciding factor of the odds. If this is the case, then all of the high rollers will be on the red.
2569  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 10, 2016, 01:12:37 PM
You can buy bitcoin, and then wait for it to rise, you can also see the signature campaign, so that it can get bitcoin.

Buying and holding bitcoins is not an steady way of earning bitcoins because you don't know what will happen in coming time, sometimes it grows and sometimes it drops so that cannot make you steady earnings, signature campaigns can do that though as their rates are fixed.

Yeah holding will never give you steady income in fact holding can bring loss if price drops in future and now the days are gone when price used to fluctuate in quick session, price is getting stable now.
Sometimes it was misinterpret with our fellow brothers here, they think that holding can give them steady income but in fact you cannot expect that as the price of bitcoin is not only going in one direction, maybe for the long run it can be good but it is still good to have an active income regularly.

that is right. When we say steady income, that is constant and regular cashflow - with regads to holding, there is some kind of suspending the cashflow for a period of time to have potential earnings in the near future. But it does not qualify to the steady income aspect - in order for us to have steady income is to have some business or work that we have some money in regularly from time to time.
2570  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: October 10, 2016, 01:09:17 PM
I do not gamble to much but it always seems that when I do, I take the loss big time.  For example, I have lost over 3 BTC in the BustaBit game online.  It is fun and I like to play but I always get greedy with it.  I have won about 2.2 BTC back, but I lost more than what I have won.  For some odd reason, I keep coming back over and over.  I do not know why I do it, why do you?
i think it can't be our fun thinking that make it again a betting lover at gambling site to gamble . but it is only our greediness that make use very greedy to gamble some btc without hardwork .
Gambling is not good for the poor people because they tend to shift their interest in gambling. At first they will play it for fun and later when they lose already they will not allow to be defeated by a gambling house, what they do is they chase their loses until they accumulated a bigger loses.
Its not recommended to poor people and yeah they will try to chase back their loses that can result to desperate  in money problem..
Thats why many poor people are not riches because of this attitude they are treating gambling as their hope to be a millionaire or to be rich..

That's true. It's the nature of common men trying to compensate his loss in one or the other way. With such hope alternative winning and failure in events leads to addiction which makes users come back even at very worse scenarios of loss.

I agree that is our innate nature to recover and redeemed ourselves from any failures and misfortunes. But in the game of gambling, you are fighting against uneven battle - the casinos has their big advantage which is the house edge. Hence, it is not worth a fight chasing your loses in gambling.
Exactly, and not all the time being brave is good, we need to choose our battle and we need to be smart and in gambling where there is a big house edge the outcome is always lose because that is how it is design, your enemy has no emotion so you cannot beat it.

That is correct. I always sing the gambler song by kenny rogers when I used to gamble - just to keep myself reminded that we win some and we lose some and we should know when to fold and when to stop betting. That song really helps me most of the time but when I already have the strategy shared to me, no songs and emotions dugring game - just bet the pre-planned bets.
2571  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: October 10, 2016, 01:06:42 PM
If you will give me 10 Bitcoin here's what ill do. First, ill send 2-3 BTC on an exchange site like c-cex and start altcoin trading there to make some profit out of that amount. Ill withdraw 1 Bitcoin and convert it to fiat and the ones that will be left, Ill hold it and wait for a price to rise, then sell it then wait for the price to dump. That's how ill generate more bitcoin out of 10 Bitcoin but sometimes it won't go that smoothly.

i agree with your last statement that sometimes it will not go smoothly. In trading, there are always some surprises that alot of traders never anticpated. Try to look at monero, it was just a small price coin before and it just suddenly went up its value and now quite down. The best thing to trade is when there is some volatility and you just try to profit like 2% everytime.
2572  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 10, 2016, 01:03:17 PM
best idea, i think, is to hold on that 1 bitcoin and wait for the price to go up.
if you don't want to take any risk then yeaa better to holding forever.
but we are talking about taking risk here and choosing between gamble or invest.
and of course people who love to play a game and making money also taking high risk will choose to gamble , but the safest between them is investing.
But holding bitcoin itself must be a type of investing. Because, he had invested his money/hard work into bitcoin and now holding one of the best investment of our generation. Instead of taking risk holding bitcoin must be highly clever way of getting easy benefits.

Both gambling and investing might not guarantee for your capitals to be intact always. You may get profits as well as  losses. The profit/loss of ratio may vary based on your luck/skill against gambling and investments.
Yes comparing to gambling, investing will have less risk also holding bitcoin itself an investment type, we need not to go for another one if you do not want to multiply our bitcoins. Holding bitcoin will not guarantee for growing number of bitcoins, we will be holding. Holding will fetch high profits in future but investing will get more bitcoins without any long waiting.

This is true that other forms of investing is less risky than gambling. The reason is that, casino are designed to win while in investing, the moment the company you are investing with grows (which they try hard to achieve), your investment will also grow. The company will do everything to make it successful with the leverage they are getting from the money that you have invested to them.
Investing in a casino are less risky I guess because as you said, casinos are design to win all the time so if you have your money there, certainly your can grow your investment as you also have the advantage like the casino.

You are correct that it is preferable to invest in casino than gambling to that casino. But it is not always true that you will always get profit of you invest in these casinos. There will always be times that you will lose especially when there are big sharks that are lucky enough to win big amount of profit - you will gonna lose but if you keep invested, then nothing really to worry.
2573  Economy / Economics / Re: How good are you at managing your money on: October 10, 2016, 01:00:49 PM
With a lot of gambling that is taking place plus the sigs are almost all gambling sites it is really hard to control it when you know you have a bitcoin to use. It is good for bitcoin economy but not for people. I guess managing is really that hard when temptation is near you.

That's right but you should try harder. I'm sure you know already from your own experience that you can't make money with gambling. Gambling is a good distraction so I think it's nothing wrong with spending/losing around 1% of your earnings on that, but you will never earn with gambling.
Losing a small percentage of your total income is just good if you are also enjoying in gambling, but with lack of discipline your loses may aggravate into a serious loses so you also need to be cautious to play on in gambling for fun and nothing else or more.

i could not agree more to that. It is ok to gamble sometimes and lose some amount of money that you can afford to lose. But even if you are only losing money that you can afford to lose and you are playing regularly, then there is a big chances that you will lose more than you can afford to lose at the end of the day.
2574  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: October 10, 2016, 12:58:14 PM
Why is someone get addicted to gambling once he gamble ?
The gambit is able to influence people , especially beginners . Because when they won their first gambling return them back because they enjoy them . Until they not realizing it becomes entangled in gambling and they keep on gambling for they want to win. So many people can control their self to go in gambling.
You are spot on, when I was also new I used to gamble a lot and I for some reason was winning also lol.
But after 1 month I felt like gambling all the day no matter if its dice or sports, I could not resist myself from betting on a live sports and all, finally I am away with this addiction thanks to my determination.

I can relate to this. In the advent of technology and bitcoin where we can easily create and fund an online casino account in matter of minutes, people tend to get addicted to gambling because it can be done very easy and fast. I for one, was playing dice almost 12 hours a day before but I get rid of that habit anymore and focus on the most important things in life.
wow 12 hrs a day really a long time for just doing gambling how much is your loses? i think it more possible to lose more and more if we play that long me personally i also play gamble and get addicted but thinking about my 2 kids and for there future i realized that even im not really placing my own money just a campaign earnings if i only save it maybe its already almost 1 btc realizing that i did quit and stop.

That is true, I played an average of 12 hours a day before. It was when I study certain strategies shared to me by my friend who is a professional gambler. He is really well-known to a certain dice site game and I was amazed by his winnings. Before that 12 hour a day game, I lost more than 2BTC but when I play the 12 hour game, I just break even - aI realized that even if I break even, I lost much of my time that I should have spent to my beautiful wife and son.
2575  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 10, 2016, 12:53:41 PM
Gambling is never fix my life, it's make my life become worse and wreck my life so bad. I already lose so much money on gambling. I hope all my money that i lose on gambling can return.

That's normal, gambling works like that, it will just get all the money that you fund in your bankroll. I think you should not expect to win back what was gone in gambling, that would just double your burden and probably would just cause another problem.
which needed to make more attention because since you already got lost with your money you will make more moves to regain loses ending it up to make more loses and started to collapsed your finances and wrecked your life.

It is always a generally accepted advice when in terms to gambling that, never ever chase your loses. Take a breath and play again next time because when you chase your loses, there is a big chances that you will get wreck because the house edge is already currently working against you at the moment.
Maybe it is just a matter of self discipline, in gambling we need to learn how to manage our bankroll properly and if we are really a real gambler we have to make a real game plan and we should implement it when gambling and no method shall be use but only what is in the game plan.

this is true - this is what really the professional gamblers does. They have a careful plan and pre-planned bets coupled with discipline and proper bankroll management.. They always play base on numbers and all their bets are well calculated so as to mitigate the risk. Their strategies is not to win all the time but to mitigate risk and to win more than losing.
2576  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 10, 2016, 12:51:14 PM
I do gamble for fun
It is wrong when gamblers didn't know how to handle themselves, you play just for fun but how does it long? Do you play when you have still money? Because it is still better if you just have to use money that you can afford to lose when you want to have fun in gambling.
You are right, just play only the money that you can afford to lose so it wont hurt you that much if you are not lucky enough to win. gambling itself is not wrong, the players became addicted because of no limitation when playing.
Yes, the gambling is not wrong, but the choosing gambling for the wrong purpose is wrong. Yes if you play gambling just for fun and entertainment then it's not wrong. Those who play gambling for fun they can afford their loss. But those who play for money I think many of them are not afford their loss but still they will play, so for them this gambling is wrong.

That is correct. Also, when we make gambling as the solution of our financial difficulties, it is also the reason why there are broken families due to undisciplined gambling and the gambler loses everything even family properties. If you are not really careful about gambling and not treat it as just for fun and not profit, then you will eventually have a mess life.
2577  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: October 10, 2016, 12:48:20 PM
Gambling is sickness if you re addicted gambler , losing your hard earned money and still coming back despite this. But if you gamble with small amount just for fun i don't think its so bad.

With gambling at the beginning everyone decides of placing small amount, but if winning take place then automatically mind becomes greedy and makes the gambler to go for big amount. This at times described as sickness as well addiction when the person doesn't have a mind to concentrate upon other activities similar to a day job.

Everyone start gambling with small amount only, but once they began to win their bet yes automatically they will increase their betting amount. Yes in that time everyone will become greedy, so in that time nothing will stop them, for this kind of people gambling is considered as sickness.
That is what you called being greedy in gambling, normally those who are looking for money in gambling become greedy and we know with that kind of attitude will not bring success, when you win you still want for more and when you lose you will really chase your bets.

That is right about us never stopping when we win and bet more hoping to win more and when we are losing, we try to always chase our losses. That is precisely what professional gamblers are capitalizing with their techniques also - they just know when to stop when they are winning and do it with discipline. If they lose a session, they don't tend to chase their losses and just keeping their cool.
2578  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: October 10, 2016, 12:45:06 PM
hello, I would like to try my luck from gambling.

what kind of gambling that you think is easy to make a profit? and what strategies are you using?

I'm not sure whether you are joking or not but your question about "the easiest way" to make a profit from gambling looks like a joke to me, because it's impossible to name even a hard way.

Well of course I can tell you that you can go on a reputable dice site, make a bet 0.01 BTC with 0.01% winning chance and you will win 99 BTC risking only 0.01, but the probability of this is very slim.

that is so true. House edge is our enemy when we gamble - casinos are designed to win over the gamers. We should only take gambling as for fun and entertainment and only play a certain amount that it won't really hurt us when we lost certain bets. And as what many gamblers are saying and advising, if it ain't no longer fun, stop betting already.
2579  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 10, 2016, 12:41:54 PM
i will always gamble because... its fun!

fun is fun. just dont make it your money making method

Than it can bring some problem into your life if you have enough amount and after this have this kind of thinking. I don't think losing money can be fun for anybody because we can lost our control and can put big amount risk. So that I think better to avoid if we had big amount.
Seeing gambling as for fun only is good to be entertain, do not follow other people who are gambling and hoping that they can make fortune from gambling. That is a hard job to do and not all people are lucky to be successful, so we need to play safe.
right its better to be safe than sorry, house is not a charity its been design to sucks money and it will not allowed us to win every time because if we does no casino or gambling house will stay stand it should be treated just source of enjoyment and avoid placing a huge amount into it because you will engage in the long run.

That is really true. Gambling are design to win and is just for entertainment. With this in mind, we should be realistic enough to think that we cannot really beat the casino unless we have a very thorough and well--planned plan to get more lucky and what the professional gamblers are doing. But you know what, it really takes time, money, and effort before you can really achieve what the real professional gamblers are now at the moment.
2580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: October 10, 2016, 12:36:29 PM
Gambling is sickness if you re addicted gambler , losing your hard earned money and still coming back despite this. But if you gamble with small amount just for fun i don't think its so bad.

With gambling at the beginning everyone decides of placing small amount, but if winning take place then automatically mind becomes greedy and makes the gambler to go for big amount. This at times described as sickness as well addiction when the person doesn't have a mind to concentrate upon other activities similar to a day job.

Everyone start gambling with small amount only, but once they began to win their bet yes automatically they will increase their betting amount. Yes in that time everyone will become greedy, so in that time nothing will stop them, for this kind of people gambling is considered as sickness.

That is really the case. People who gambles start from small and they tend to get bored with small profit in case that they are winning. Chances are, they will bet bigger amount gradually and they tend to get used to it and the real game is then started - this time, house edge is right on their face and before they knew it, they already lost all of their bankroll.
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