Knowing what's in the network packets that folks don't want them to know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_enemy_of_my_enemy_is_my_friend

I've verified it works in Chrome, Chromium, Coolnovo and I think it even ran in Dragon, but i fell asleep before I could process what was going on haha.

Thank you for beating me to that.. everytime I see someone post the "half load efficiency" stuff it makes my eyes twitch

I don't understand why folks don't simply get a really nice 1kw psu even if they only plan to use 800. It's a little bit more change, but what's a few dollars to ensure you have growth room, especially compared to the price of the miners?

This isn't a knock on you btw, I just keep seeing the PSU discussion.


I constantly run math, and while my heart is entwined with the KNC system, I have to say the math isn't showing promise for anyone getting machines after october. At least if you're looking for btc->usd roi. A better bet, using TGB calculations, is Cointerra's 2TH unit. The December $14k pricing and January $6k pricing are pretty much parallel to each other with regard to btc->usd roi.

This is why I'm on edge wondering if KNC will offer more hash power for the 1st quarter for less money. The price drop on the Jupiter was nice, but it's not enough.

The only other idea which comes to mind is leasing shares from the miners, to get 51-75% of your investment cost back to you up front. This would offload the burden.

KNC insider betting? Could even be a ruse to get people to jump on the yes side lol

That... wasn't really rude. Kinda just drolling on.

Had to resend code, it worked that time. Thanks.

11 hours and counting.. with the value of BTC now vs when I ordered, I figured you guys have made $2.43USD with my pending coinage.

Well played. 

Order 14775 still waiting to be sent the link (or funded, whichever). Any clue? Placed about 8 hours ago. For the premium paid, I wish it was a smidge quicker.

What country you in? Shift your order to me, I might buy it

I don't make bamt, but I'm curious to know why you need a 64 bit version?

The big dogs who bought the rigs have no other CHOICE but to wait. Few idiots would buy their preorders at this point in the game, they'd be better off going with any other OEM. I know of at least 30 people who demanded refunds on 30 and 60gh units. Majority compared to total orders? No. But on the rise, definitely, along with reselling of the preorders at a loss to the original purchaser.

Yeah, they're getting rigs out. The better question, ignored by BFL, is where's the promised full production line execution? It's not in play. Jody appears out of excuses, or simply doesn't post them anymore, which is fine, it's not her fault. This week was one of several "promises to clear backlogs", but this one was the real deal according to Josh, thanks to their 7 day a week 2-3 shift a day multi-line production execution plan. I'm an understanding guy, but there is a point where a line is drawn. Keep in mind, I'm not a customer, I'm just someone who's looking into the situation out of a curiosity piqued by one of the most poorly executed business systems I've ever come across.

The issue is either parts supply, manpower or mismanagement. If it's parts or manpower, file it under mismanagement. That leaves.. mismanagement. Fancy that. And that's the best part! Some folks just want to know what the deal is with production, and what the holdup is. They don't even care it's behind, but BFL sweeps it under the carpet.

Maybe they're packing up a bunch of 18 wheelers as we speak, and will update the ship log all at once with 283,942 outstanding orders. I mean, right? It's a possibility.

Surely not a probability though.

It's getting better. If you follow my thread, or some of the newer ones, there's an uptick of customers with the same "messages being deleted" issue, ones even not related to this but simply "order delays".

A couple customers haven't received their products at all despite being a month past the queue and such.

The benefit of the doubt side of me says maybe there's a holdup at BFL but there'll be some huge, multi-18-wheeler shipout in the next day or so. The realistic side of me says, there's a growing issue far worse than ever before.

We'll see I guess.

FWIW, I don't even have BFL products nor did I order any. I've got no skin in the game, I just analyze things and look for patterns. Probably half the reason I enjoy the mining hobby.

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You speak as if it's a real product. I highlighted the 2 most important portions of your response.

If BFL doesn't have its doors closed by legal authorites, and if they don't go bankrupt, and if they don't split up and run off with folks' money, and if the product does come to fruition, if it doesn't fall to the wayside regarding specs, promises and delivery like all of their other products (they can't even keep the hats or coffee mugs shipping), if they ever deliver the item while bitcoin can still be mined.. then maybe it'l hash some coins.

That's a lot of wagering right there, considering their production line has pretty much ceased for the past 12 days (minus a couple rigs), and they're telling customers to piss off when asking about it.

KNC will be on their own Gen2 products by the time all these "ifs" pass, which will likely be even better than the mythical Monarch.

I think it's likely they'll at least make sure the boxes connect to the pools and hash for a minute or 2 without HW errors. They're programming the mining info into the boxes prior to shipment, so I'd imagine it wouldn't take much more effort to test. Unless they're using SD cards or similar storage to hold the mining stuff, and someone will simply be doing that ala text file

Could be a really good move, especially for the HDMI-out as another member pointed out. This would definitely put this into a high class mining group. If I had money I'd order Jupiters haha, I love the simple/efficient design, and it seems like every change is always for the better. This is why I love working with engineers so much.. it's always an improvement.

I question if BFL will be open in a year's time to even be taking orders, though I'm sure they'll do their best to continue taking preorders from court even while sitting at their hearing. Enough complaints are piling up that it's reaching the right legal ears. More folks need to file official complaints to break the dam. Their entire production line has all but come to a halt over the past 13 days (minus a rig or two), and it's gotten even some stalwart BFL supporters worried.

Maybe I missed it, but there shouldn't be a bitbet on KNC delivering, it should be on how long until the folks at BFL are hauled off to court, and their location shut down.

Better question: Will BFL be around in a year? It's looking unlikely. There's mounting legal force against them in their state, and they're already being monitored. They can delete my posts about it on their forum, but they can't do it here. Easily. LOL.

Their production lines have almost come to a halt over the past 12 days minus a few large items (go check their daily work log). That's always a good sign right?

Could surprise us all and ship out like 200 things tomorrow, so who knows right?

I'd imagine SPI for the interfaces. BUt that's just a total blind guess.