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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: mcxNOW Fee shares : Cryptocurrency daily earnings on: November 04, 2013, 06:58:37 AM
Are customer funds stored in cold storage?
262  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: November 01, 2013, 11:33:11 PM
Say what you want about Gox, but the other markets are terrible. The APIs give the impression as they have been designed by my 12 year old nephew.

Agreed. Also, in spite of a poor record on this in the past, Gox is now easily the fastest to execute trades, particularly when things get busy.

As far as the upstarts go, Kraken has a damn sexy API, although no streaming stuff yet.
263  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to inexpensively acquire bitcoins in USA now that dwolla support gone? on: October 29, 2013, 06:17:25 AM
anyone try kraken.com?
264  Economy / Exchanges / Re: www.BITSTAMP.net Bitcoin exchange site for USD/BTC on: October 27, 2013, 04:32:43 PM
Transactions API is again 404'ing:

https://www.bitstamp.net/api/transactions
265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: October 01, 2013, 09:05:12 PM
I don't like the investment fee, I think investment should be encouraged by being totally free.

On the contrary, I'm entertaining the idea that a divestment fee applied on profit only could be good for the long term investors and thus the Casino. It would be a fee independent from the weekly one, and it could be redistributed between investors that did not divest, being a reward for maintaining a stable roll for the Casino. At first sight it seems to me a nice way to minimize the risk of "bank run", which was the main concern during nakowas winning streaks.
I like a divestment fee and it should only kick in if you divest more than once every 10 days. 

Investment or divestment fee, it doesn't really make a difference to long term investors, though I slightly prefer the investment fee as it's expected to be a lesser amount for long-term investors.

I think it would be interesting to have the fee be paid directly to the site bankroll, i.e. currently invested investors. This creates a nice incentive for folks to stay invested for the long term.
266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: October 01, 2013, 07:22:59 PM
I will tell you for example that I am 25% down and I invested back in July and I stayed invested throughout


Wow.
Man, good luck to get positive again, with all people investing when it is low (like now) and divesting when it is high.
It will be harder :/

These guys are IMO Gamblers that have found a way to dodge the house edge.

There should be something implemented to discourage this like f.e. a higher commission on high turnover invests, divests. Or a instant fee on every invest (that has to be made up before an invest has to pay any commissions of course).

I very much like the idea of an invest fee.
267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: September 29, 2013, 01:32:49 AM
Why would I invest 500 BTC at 0.25% when I can just invest 125BTC at 1% then and not have the CP risk for the othet 375 BTC?

Because you would get less variance.

Suppose a whale bets max bet and wins 20 times.  If you invest 500 BTC at 0.25%, you'll still have 95% of your bankroll left:

>>> a=500
>>> for i in range(20): a *= (1-0.0025); print "%.2f" % (a*100/500,),
99.75 99.50 99.25 99.00 98.76 98.51 98.26 98.02 97.77 97.53 97.28 97.04 96.80 96.56 96.31 96.07 95.83 95.59 95.36 95.12

But if you invest 125 BTC at 1%, you'll have only 82% of it left:

>>> a=125
>>> for i in range(20): a *= (1-0.0100); print "%.2f" % (a*100/125,),
99.00 98.01 97.03 96.06 95.10 94.15 93.21 92.27 91.35 90.44 89.53 88.64 87.75 86.87 86.01 85.15 84.29 83.45 82.62 81.79

Your risk of ruin is much greater if you invest at 1% than if you invest at 0.25%.

Not sure that's true in the second case - as their BR is what they have left of the 125 plus the untouched 375 they have in cold storage.

Broadly speaking having the two risks is similar to (but not quite the same) as if the people wanting low variance did what they should have done in the first place - and withdrew 3/4 of their BR.  But as they can't do BR management themselves, you're having to do it for them.

For those who want to avoid massive losses, the amusing thing is that a high risk level SHOULD be their friend.  Their optimal strategy if they want to avoid large downswings is to invest a small percentage of their BR at a very high level risk level - giving them tiny CP risk AND a stop-loss to curtail losses if a whale hits a large winning streak.  Of course they then also give up a lot in situations where a large down-swing is followed by a large up-swing - but until they accept they can't get the benefits of massive variance in an upward direction without accepting the reverse nothing is going to make them happy.  Unless you were to specifically cater for them by allowing them to only cover small bets (where their money isn't needed) out of some sense of charity.

My analysis agrees with Deprived. If you have 500BTC to invest, and your options are either to put it all on the site at 0.25% or 1/4 of it at 1%:

20 wins for 500BTC investor @ 0.25%:

>>> a=500
>>> for i in range(20): a *= (1+0.0025); print "%.2f" % (a),
...
501.25 502.50 503.76 505.02 506.28 507.55 508.82 510.09 511.36 512.64 513.92 515.21 516.50 517.79 519.08 520.38 521.68 522.98 524.29 525.60

20 wins for 125BTC investor @ 1% (+375 coins kept in storage):

>>> a=125
>>> for i in range(20): a *= (1+0.01); print "%.2f" % (a+375),
...
501.25 502.51 503.79 505.08 506.38 507.69 509.02 510.36 511.71 513.08 514.46 515.85 517.26 518.68 520.12 521.57 523.04 524.52 526.01 527.52



20 loses for 500BTC investor @ 0.25%:

>>> a=500
>>> for i in range(20): a *= (1-0.002500); print "%.2f" % (a),
...
498.75 497.50 496.26 495.02 493.78 492.55 491.32 490.09 488.86 487.64 486.42 485.20 483.99 482.78 481.57 480.37 479.17 477.97 476.78 475.58

20 loses for 125BTC investor @ 1% (+375 coins kept in storage):

>>> a=125
>>> for i in range(20): a *= (1-0.0100); print "%.2f" % (a+375),
...
498.75 497.51 496.29 495.07 493.87 492.69 491.51 490.34 489.19 488.05 486.92 485.80 484.69 483.59 482.51 481.43 480.37 479.31 478.27 477.24



10 wins followed by 10 loses for 500BTC investor @ 0.25%:

>>> a=500
>>> for i in range(10): a *= (1+0.0025); print "%.2f" % (a),
...
501.25 502.50 503.76 505.02 506.28 507.55 508.82 510.09 511.36 512.64
>>> for i in range(10): a *= (1-0.0025); print "%.2f" % (a),
...
511.36 510.08 508.81 507.53 506.27 505.00 503.74 502.48 501.22 499.97

10 wins followed by 10 loses for 125BTC investor @ 1% (+375 coins kept in cold storage):

>>> a=125
>>> for i in range(10): a *= (1+0.01); print "%.2f" % (a+375),
...
501.25 502.51 503.79 505.08 506.38 507.69 509.02 510.36 511.71 513.08
>>> for i in range(10): a *= (1-0.01); print "%.2f" % (a+375),
...
511.70 510.33 508.98 507.64 506.31 505.00 503.70 502.41 501.14 499.88



alternating win/loss for 20 bets, 500BTC investor @ 0.25%:
>>> a=500
>>> sign=1
>>> for i in range(20): a *= (1+(0.0025*sign)); print "%.2f" % (a),; sign=(-1)*sign;
...
501.25 500.00 501.25 499.99 501.24 499.99 501.24 499.99 501.24 499.98 501.23 499.98 501.23 499.98 501.23 499.98 501.22 499.97 501.22 499.97



alternating win/loss for 20 bets, 125BTC investor @ 1% (+375 coins held offline):
>>> a=125
>>> sign=1
>>> for i in range(20): a *= (1+(0.01*sign)); print "%.2f" % (a+375),; sign=(-1)*sign;
...
501.25 499.99 501.24 499.98 501.22 499.96 501.21 499.95 501.20 499.94 501.19 499.93 501.17 499.91 501.16 499.90 501.15 499.89 501.14 499.88



Maybe over the long term there's more of a big difference?

If there's essentially no difference, then this new feature is just a fancy way of divesting a portion of your balance.
268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: September 25, 2013, 07:43:22 PM
I want to have a no-limit casino to invest , like you can bet all the investment , which was like 30k or something , be able to bet 30k than. Thats more fun , casinos should take some courage to run , even if its not your money to run , even better if its like that.

Could not agree more. The fearful investors are messing this up for everyone. If there's no/little chance for the house to lose, then there's little/no chance for the players to win, and the whole thing loses its luster.
269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: September 25, 2013, 07:40:18 PM
18:36:09 (153338) <percent> I'm DONE. pulling back 2976 coins. NEW RULES KILLED ME.


UTTERY STUPIDITY  TO CHASE THE WHALE AWAY.

WE WOULD HAVE BEEN +10,000 TODAY.
You want to invest in a site which can swing 10,000 BTC per day on a 30k bankroll? Most do not nor was that the intended design.

Too many chicken investors! Yes, that's exactly what I would like to invest in. Heck, I'd take the house side at 2% max profit. Ready to lose everything. C'mon y'all, lighten up and "invest" less if you're scared.

Maybe the problem was the word "invest", which disguises the fact that you are just making a bet by taking the house side (albeit a slightly positive expectancy one).
270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: September 25, 2013, 07:10:50 PM
No warnings: you beg, you banned.
Begging is way too common both in bitcoin forums and in some online games, and it should definitely be stopped, without warnings.

Anything else shouldn'd be censored imho: censorship is a bad thing. If we "censor" anything, it's just because we have to prevent spam from happening, or the chat becomes useless. So, as long as you aren't spamming (begging included in spamming), that's fine.
Advertisements are the only exception, for obvious reasons.

Can't we just implement an easy to use ignore filter? One-click ignore & leave it up to the users. Self-censorship doesn't hold the same kind of risks of centralized censorship.

There might even be people who enjoy throwing a few coins at the beggars.
271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: September 24, 2013, 04:54:34 PM
As for the calls to "change something", if he's cheating then limiting the maximum bet won't stop him winning, and if he isn't cheating and is just lucky then limiting the maximum bet will only slow his inevitable losses.  I don't see how it helps in either case.

One thing that I can change that will protect investors is whether the site is up or not.  If I take it down they won't lose any more.  But I suspect that most investors wouldn't like that decision.  They want the site to stay up so they can win their coins back again.  The ones who want this to end have the option already of divesting.

I'm quite tempted to just give up on this whole thing.  It looks like the site is simply at nakowa's mercy.  He's promised me in the past that he won't play any more, but never sticks to his word.  So what do I do?  Continue to let the investors take these horrific losses?

Dooglus, if you can find ways to demonstrate / reassure yourself and investors that the RNG is good and the site has not been compromised, I think that's all you can do.

This event sucks in the short term, but in the long term, assuming the site/RNG are secure, all this publicity could work out in favor of the house.
272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: September 23, 2013, 05:48:51 PM
holy %$*!sticks volatility

fun!
273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: September 18, 2013, 06:49:24 PM
I like the idea of achievements, or something next to their name. How about levels? Level 50 could have bet more than 100 bitcoin in 1 bet for example.

A leveling system and different badges for the gamblers, even small timers can become level 1, 2, 3 and get a few badges but the real juice comes at higher levels. (which require more whale like bets)

Hey, you can even offer powerups! Dooglus you know how there is a 3 second delay for 0 btc bets. How about if the person has bet over 30 bitcoin at once enough times they can get a powerup that lets them do 0 btc bets instantly, giving them the ability to do 0's with no penalty.

Smiley

Make the whales feel warm and fuzzy!

Just wanted to throw in my support for achievements. I do think it requires some care, however. The "throw everything in and see what sticks" approach could really turn people off. I would instead try and build in a few well thought out achievement-y features with both badges and real rewards, either monetary or feature-based.
274  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Havelock Investments - Exchange feedback/comments on: September 16, 2013, 05:18:33 PM
Is there a way to view the trades that happen on a given security via the API? I have found the book and the ticker, but no trades. E.g. this call from btct:

Quote
Trade history for a specific asset   https://btct.co/api/tradeHistory/COGNITIVE (optionally add: ?range=all)
275  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has the NSA already broken bitcoin? on: September 07, 2013, 10:44:19 PM
You guys are missing the point here.  NSA Social engineered back doors into the algorithms.  They placed back doors in the encryption.  Thus you do not need to brute force your way in in you just need an appropriate key.

Thats quite a feat with open source.
At least when you compile yourself.

https://www.ece.cmu.edu/~ganger/712.fall02/papers/p761-thompson.pdf
276  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: ICBIT Derivatives Market (USD/BTC futures trading) - LIVE on: September 07, 2013, 08:05:09 AM
Is it possible to download a list of all transactions made on our account in a programmatic fashion? Full history access in a programmatic way, including time of trade or settlement, price, size, fee paid, etc.

This is a requirement for us to deploy an algo on your system.

Just a heads up that we are implementing this at the moment, will share specification soon.

awesome, glad to hear it.

I just deployed the draft version of the API, and it would be great to listen to your feedback. I am not publishing specs on the API page because the syntax may change after testing here.

To get all or part of your trades, you need to send the following command:
Code:
socket.emit('message', {
    op: 'get',
    type: 'user_trades',
    limit: 0,
    since: 0
});

where limit is the max number of trades to include in the reply (it's currently limited to 500 if you don't specify it), and since is the timestamp after which you want to get trades. It's possible to omit timestamp or set it to 0 to receive data starting from the very first trade.

Reply will come as
Code:
	channel: 'user_trades',
op: 'private',
private: 'user_trades',
user_trades: [array of user trades]

Please try it and let me know if something needs to be changed. For example, if you dislike the since/limit approach.

Since/limit is great, it's how some other exchanges work and it will work for us. This looks like it will probably be good, but can you also share an example of an entry from the array of user trades?

It may be a little while before we can get to implementing this. We haven't had icbit high on our priority list before now because we knew it didn't have this feature. Since then we've dug ourselves into a few other projects. I will let you know if we have any probs when we actually do get around to it.
277  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has the NSA already broken bitcoin? on: September 07, 2013, 07:36:43 AM
This would be pretty easy to test. Just get a bunch of friends to start exchanging encrypted messages about bombing an embassy or govt office. If these douche-bags can break it, they'd be on you like white on rice.

can anyone think of a lower risk way to test...?

no body going to take this risk even its end of a life

send the NSA a  letter and see if they answer your question Roll Eyes

ooh I like the way you think. Direct and to the point!
278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] simple litecoin price widget for android on: September 06, 2013, 03:25:11 AM
version 25:
 - get cryptsy data via cryptsy.phauna.org to save bandwidth
 - add support for the BTC / CAD price on cavirtex.com
279  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has the NSA already broken bitcoin? on: September 05, 2013, 09:26:14 PM
This would be pretty easy to test. Just get a bunch of friends to start exchanging encrypted messages about bombing an embassy or govt office. If these douche-bags can break it, they'd be on you like white on rice.

can anyone think of a lower risk way to test...?
280  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: CoinJoin: Bitcoin privacy for the real world on: September 02, 2013, 03:36:45 AM
Is there a website similar to pastebin where I can do that for pdfs? I also have a more detailed description of the network that might be of interest here that is also in pdf format.

Dropbox?
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