Science does not say "God created the heavens and the earth". Show me those words please in a scientific journal.
I am not inappropriately applying things at all. The OT says in Genesis how the world was created, yet you have numerous times stated the OT is not relevant anymore. Therefore, Genesis is wrong.
Show me examples of my dishonesty and lying. I have pointed out inadequacies in what you say and asked for you to explain (as I am only a man and require simple explanations) but you cannot do this. You simply go back to quoting yourself which has been proven time and again to be irrelevant.
I have no cult... I have no followers, I am a simple man who seeks knowledge. However when the answers given are flawed and leaves more questions then the knowledge is not gained.
It appears you become nasty and agitated when cornered. If you do not have the faith in your answers why do you continue? Does it make you feel better calling people names? If so, I pity you!
You keep telling me what I want, are you in my mind? Do you have some magical power which you can do this with?
I'll tell you right now, there is no such a combination of words in any of scientific journals that are legit, maybe in some dodgy religios "scientific" journals. Also, like always in arguing with a religios person, OT will not be relevant unless it suites the argument, then it suddenly is relevant. Just like the facts and verses from the bible, interpretation and understanding of the bible will be such to suite the need and cause. Just twist them and turn them to your need. None of the answers are clear, all they do is give a vague answer and let you with it so you get out of that what you want. There are loads of things that exist, that scientists use regularly, that have not been written about in science journals, or that the journals are lying on some dusty old shelf in an obscure library somewhere that you will never find them. Just because they have not been written about in detail, doesn't mean that they don't exist, scientifically or otherwise.  And just because a book is written does not make it real and truthful. But when it matches the truth as the Bible does, you can see when a book is the truth. The Bible does not match Truth, therefore you can see that the book is false. Too many inconsistencies for it to be truth. As I have told you before, the seeming inconsistencies of the Bible are like your inconsistencies... when you walk into the kitchen and then out again. Make up your mind. Oh, that's right. We need to look at the little details of why you did what you did... not just the fact that it seemed you couldn't make up your mind. |
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Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime. And there you go again BADecker, choosing to belittle those of us who challenge you. Tell me, what is wrong if people do have a mental illness and require therapeutic interventions for help? Are you so perfect that you feel the need to highlight their "failings" in your eyes? The problem that you have is that you are so self indulgent that you believe the bullshit which you write. That is not a problem for the rest of us, but when questioned you become aggressive and insulting. Yes I do question you for I seek knowledge. Is there a problem with this? I spend my days working with people with Disabilities and Mental Health issues, yet you, by your comments above choose to believe that they are lower than you and condemn them. Personally, I would rather spend my days working with these people than an afternoon with you. You BADecker, are not a very nice person and I hope you wake up and see the person you are before it is too late. What? Here you go again, belittling me when all I was doing was agreeing to what you express about yourself. I don't have anything against you at all. But when are you going to wake up to the reality of the truth that God esixts? But all I have done is agree with the way in which you represent yourself. I have nothing against you, but you seem to have lots against those less fortunate, why? When are you going to wake up to the reality that God doesn't exist? The problem isn't the less fortunate. The problem is when the less fortunate like to stay in their less fortunate position. At the judgment, if you haven't changed, God won't consider your less fortunate position, because you had the chance to calculate out the proof for His existence, but rather decided to remain intentionally ignorant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. |
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FACT: I am. I was also planning on moving if Hillary became president, because fuck this.
You do not have the liberty to emigrate. As an American you can only become an expat. You'll have to pay taxes to the IRS regardless of where you live. Your children (if any) have to pay too. Refusing to do so will get you in deep shit. p.s. throw away account  ) You have the liberty of renouncing your American passport, which is a very simple process (if you don't have any pending tax payments). The IRS is not going to tax the non-citizens. You don't have to renounce your passport. Your passport isn't you. The "person" of your passport is one of your persons. This person isn't you, because you breathe and have flesh and bones; it doesn't. The person of your passport is a tiny representation of you. It isn't you. Answer truthfully if asked if that is you on your passport. But answer wisely. The passport is only a representation of you, and not a very good one. |
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Science does not say "God created the heavens and the earth". Show me those words please in a scientific journal.
I am not inappropriately applying things at all. The OT says in Genesis how the world was created, yet you have numerous times stated the OT is not relevant anymore. Therefore, Genesis is wrong.
Show me examples of my dishonesty and lying. I have pointed out inadequacies in what you say and asked for you to explain (as I am only a man and require simple explanations) but you cannot do this. You simply go back to quoting yourself which has been proven time and again to be irrelevant.
I have no cult... I have no followers, I am a simple man who seeks knowledge. However when the answers given are flawed and leaves more questions then the knowledge is not gained.
It appears you become nasty and agitated when cornered. If you do not have the faith in your answers why do you continue? Does it make you feel better calling people names? If so, I pity you!
You keep telling me what I want, are you in my mind? Do you have some magical power which you can do this with?
I'll tell you right now, there is no such a combination of words in any of scientific journals that are legit, maybe in some dodgy religios "scientific" journals. Also, like always in arguing with a religios person, OT will not be relevant unless it suites the argument, then it suddenly is relevant. Just like the facts and verses from the bible, interpretation and understanding of the bible will be such to suite the need and cause. Just twist them and turn them to your need. None of the answers are clear, all they do is give a vague answer and let you with it so you get out of that what you want. Just because they have not been written about in detail, doesn't mean that they don't exist, scientifically or otherwise. That's the same thing religious people tend to do with god. Probably somewhere in the desert, deep beneath the sand in some secret chamber lies a script, a true word from God indeed and it says:" Fuck you, you were all a mistake, I'm out of here. You're on your own." But it is so well hidden that nobody ever read it but it is there. See? I did the same bullshit as you did. Now, all of a sudden, you know that God exists? No, that was just an assumption that god is real since that would make your faith pointless, not wrong but pointless. Also, I'll repeat, that was just assuming that god truly exists. Do I know that you exist? Yes, because you keep responding to my posts (and the posts of others, as well). Do I really know anything about you? No. But if you or others tell me something about you, I have to take it on faith, or simply not believe it. Same with God. He exists. But I have to take on faith at least some of the things that He or others tell me about Him. So, what does this have to do with pointless faith? |
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.... The point is, God wrote His own Book by causing the writers who actually penned it to write what they did. The second point is, since God wants freedom for us, while at the same time He wants to remain in control, God actually causes the things that we think we freely do and write, to often happen according to our wishes... and without us even realizing that He is behind it all... until we examine the way things work, scientifically. So HE decided to 'inspire' 40+ writers over the course of 2500 years!!! Please, you do not really believe that!!! Talk about lazy and unsure God. The real reason this book was written was to provide some guidance on how to manage social interactions. Around the time when the agricultural revolution started, first cities were formed as people did not have to wonder around for food. Agricultural revolution allowed for the fast expansion of the population. This created problems. It is very easy to manage a group of 40-50 hunters & gatherers. But it is nearly impossible to manage a group of 5000+ people. So myths and 'God laws' had to be written down so that the ruling class could reference them and implement the laws by killing the violators. This helped to reduce crime. That is the real reason why this book was written, by people for other people. First you express that God doesn't exist. Then you suggest that I don't really believe that He did something He did. Then you suggest that He is lazy and unsure when you know that He created the universe to operate by cause and effect, which is way beyond anything we can even imagine doing. Then you seem to suggest that He wasn't behind the writing of the Bible at all. The thing that is amazing is that you, somebody who doesn't seem sure about the existence of God or not, haven't gone out and expressed your own personal volumes of knowledge about the workings of nature and everything else. I mean, a funny farm resident might do just that. And you can see by the humble videos of Graham Hancock and others, that archaeology shows us that there really were no hunter gatherers thousands of years ago that were any different than ours today in various parts of the world. In addition, there were great technologies in the prehistory, just like there are today, as shown by these same videos. Consider Gobekli Tepe. Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime. Göbekli Tepe is from 10th millennium BCE, way outside 'your creation date' of circa 4000 BCE. You were there back then? You know somebody who was there back then? When you look into the papers and books from many of the scientists who date things, they express that their dating is just a guestimation, and that they really don't know.
Graham Hancock is a writer. So you like his novels; I'm not surprised. Not sure what this has anything to do with reality.
The Graham Hancock videos show that standard archaeology is way off in their idea that ancient peoples were simple hunter gatherers. The standard hunter-gatherer stuff is made up, just to cover up the idea that people of prehistory were far greater than we think, and even than we ARE. It is also made up to downplay the knowledge that God exists. There is enough accurate history in the Bible.There we go again. You have just hanged yourself again. Neuroscientists know where your God exist. Call any university that has a strong Neuroscience research program, they should be able to locate God in your brain without any problems. Try to read from more than one book. Perhaps when you get to the starting point, then you will be able to move ahead in your understanding. The starting point is recognizing that God exists, through the science proof, and through the fact of the existence of the universe. Until then, you are always going to remain mixed up in your thinking. |
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Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind?  Those who don't believed in god then don't bother those who believed in him and keep faithful to him i am one who believing in him not because church taught us when you experience his kindness and his blessed you always remembered him that he still exist on this world and keep wathcing on us. Ok, lemme ask you one question that no one will answer me for some reason. Were you born in a country where christianity is the main religion or is your father/mother a devout christian? The question is kinda irrelevant. Why? Because the atheism religion is strong enough that those who were brought up in atheism often maintain their religion just as those who were brought up in another religion. Unless a person does the studies himself/herself, any religion is based on what a person hears someone else express. One of the strangest anomalies exists in the scientific community. The basis for all scientific investigation is cause and effect. A scientist sees something, wants to know the whys and hows of it, and looks to see what caused it. Cause and effect. The greater the scientist, the more he has looked into the cause and effect of things. People and their intelligence exist. They are the effect of some or many causes. Whatever caused the greatness of life and intelligence and reasoning, must have had this in itself way ahead of time. Yet many scientists try to figure out ways to claim that everything was randomly done, when there essentially is no such thing as random, and when cause and effect is evidenced in billions of things all over the place. This anomaly in science and scientists is one of the things that turns science, and particularly atheism, into a religion... but more, a cult. So, you answer your own question about yourself and your atheism religion first. If your answer makes enough sense, someone might play the game of answering you about his religion. What scientific investigation? Thank you for prompting me to emphasize, so that everybody is clear about it... all. The ones that you posted and share them as evidence? hahaha I'm still not clear about that, lemme see some links that are not from some christian "science" website.... You are asking me to let you do something? I don't have much of any control over your life. If something or someone is stopping you from researching or using your brain, it isn't me, not to my knowledge, anyway. No, I asked you to provide some links. Well that's the reason I don't believe in any of the gods or fairy tales, I've started thinking on my own and didn't want some book from the sand people dictating my life. Well, you said, " lemme see ..." I don't have any control over your life. I'm not stopping you from doing some research. And I'm not your stepping stone, either. Go right ahead and let yourself see some links if you want. No, I want you to provide some links because you're claiming something and since you didn't, that means that what you said was bullshit. But in this case, the links are so abundant, that they are almost self evident. This means that if I provided them to you, you wouldn't look at them anyway. If you would, you would have done the simple research and found the info already, long ago. |
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So please, put away your flat, 6000 years old Earth, the Great Flood and that 'a man created from dirt, a woman from a rib bone' nonsense to rest.
Since there is nothing but theory that contradicts the Bible record, and since theory is not known to be fact, go with the Bible record rather than the unknown. Appealing to biblical authority with people who don't accept the bible as authoritative is pretty silly. It's the worst sort of pointless circular logic. The problem with this is that it is actually known  90% of the stuff in the Bible is plainly untrue, it is not methaporicaly said, it is not an allegory It's just stuff that isn't true The whole Old Testament was written prior to 2400 years ago. The fact of the age of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are from about 400 B.C., shows that the O.T. is similar today, to what it was back then. Using scientific extrapolation, odds are that the O.T. is similar all the way back to the times that each book was written. Yet, there is a symmetry in the whole thing that makes it look like it was written at the same time, even though it was written over hundreds of years. The point is, for this to have happened, means that there was a Guide to making it happen - God. In addition, The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately shows that it was real enough so that they understood the importance of it. The Bible is true. If it weren't, it would have perished long ago, and if we had any copies at all, they would be museum pieces. Rather, because of the greatness of the Bible, the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it. God has made them great because they respected Him enough to hold His Word important and sacred in their hearts. "The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately" wrong, simply because it's very hard to really accurately translate and copy a certain book or text through more than 1000 years, so who knows what has changed and what the original bible chapters looked like. and why is the bible as a book so great? is it maybe because christianity is the biggest religion in the world and there's influence of it on every continent? and before you ask, christianity wasn't spread around that peacefully, specially on Nordic peninsula and Americas and Africa which was colonised. "the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it." Name one. +1 I do not think BSDecker types studied the history of their cult. Most of Europe was 'Christianized' by force, sword and fire. Never mind Africa and Americas. How many native Indians (North and South American) had to die for the rest of them to accept Christ :-) What ISIS is doing is nothing comparing to what the Christian crusaders did to native populations around the world. BADecker, you want to learn what your Christian comrades did to the natives, read: https://www.amazon.com/Peoples-History-United-States/dp/0060838655The method that many peoples of the past used to spread the knowledge of Christianity was a wrong method. But at least Christianity was spread. Your life is a recipient of the great things God did and does for His people, even if you receive it incidentally. Fortunately for all of us, the atheism religion that attempted to spread itself through 150 million or more deaths in the 20th Century, has proven to be the failure that it is, whereas Christianity has proven its greatness by being a big success. |
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Science does not say "God created the heavens and the earth". Show me those words please in a scientific journal.
I am not inappropriately applying things at all. The OT says in Genesis how the world was created, yet you have numerous times stated the OT is not relevant anymore. Therefore, Genesis is wrong.
Show me examples of my dishonesty and lying. I have pointed out inadequacies in what you say and asked for you to explain (as I am only a man and require simple explanations) but you cannot do this. You simply go back to quoting yourself which has been proven time and again to be irrelevant.
I have no cult... I have no followers, I am a simple man who seeks knowledge. However when the answers given are flawed and leaves more questions then the knowledge is not gained.
It appears you become nasty and agitated when cornered. If you do not have the faith in your answers why do you continue? Does it make you feel better calling people names? If so, I pity you!
You keep telling me what I want, are you in my mind? Do you have some magical power which you can do this with?
I'll tell you right now, there is no such a combination of words in any of scientific journals that are legit, maybe in some dodgy religios "scientific" journals. Also, like always in arguing with a religios person, OT will not be relevant unless it suites the argument, then it suddenly is relevant. Just like the facts and verses from the bible, interpretation and understanding of the bible will be such to suite the need and cause. Just twist them and turn them to your need. None of the answers are clear, all they do is give a vague answer and let you with it so you get out of that what you want. Just because they have not been written about in detail, doesn't mean that they don't exist, scientifically or otherwise. That's the same thing religious people tend to do with god. Probably somewhere in the desert, deep beneath the sand in some secret chamber lies a script, a true word from God indeed and it says:" Fuck you, you were all a mistake, I'm out of here. You're on your own." But it is so well hidden that nobody ever read it but it is there. See? I did the same bullshit as you did. Now, all of a sudden, you know that God exists? |
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Science does not say "God created the heavens and the earth". Show me those words please in a scientific journal.
I am not inappropriately applying things at all. The OT says in Genesis how the world was created, yet you have numerous times stated the OT is not relevant anymore. Therefore, Genesis is wrong.
Show me examples of my dishonesty and lying. I have pointed out inadequacies in what you say and asked for you to explain (as I am only a man and require simple explanations) but you cannot do this. You simply go back to quoting yourself which has been proven time and again to be irrelevant.
I have no cult... I have no followers, I am a simple man who seeks knowledge. However when the answers given are flawed and leaves more questions then the knowledge is not gained.
It appears you become nasty and agitated when cornered. If you do not have the faith in your answers why do you continue? Does it make you feel better calling people names? If so, I pity you!
You keep telling me what I want, are you in my mind? Do you have some magical power which you can do this with?
I'll tell you right now, there is no such a combination of words in any of scientific journals that are legit, maybe in some dodgy religios "scientific" journals. Also, like always in arguing with a religios person, OT will not be relevant unless it suites the argument, then it suddenly is relevant. Just like the facts and verses from the bible, interpretation and understanding of the bible will be such to suite the need and cause. Just twist them and turn them to your need. None of the answers are clear, all they do is give a vague answer and let you with it so you get out of that what you want. There are loads of things that exist, that scientists use regularly, that have not been written about in science journals, or that the journals are lying on some dusty old shelf in an obscure library somewhere that you will never find them. Just because they have not been written about in detail, doesn't mean that they don't exist, scientifically or otherwise. And just because a book is written does not make it real and truthful. But when it matches the truth as the Bible does, you can see when a book is the truth. |
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As society develops there is more need for currency in circulation to get regulated. Back in the day taxation didn't give anybody anything, nowadays this is the opposite... It can even save your life later in the elder days when you need it.
If wanting to get the most out of paying into any government system, aim for applying as much as possible into the offered services. Retirement or annuities open up as well as bonuses from expenses or new era technological expansions around your house (think green.)
Overall, with more gained it does seem like something you should do if not current with it.
That's what I say. Make robots to do everything for us for free. Then give us all the tax money back. Then, finally, drop the taxes completely. |
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.... The point is, God wrote His own Book by causing the writers who actually penned it to write what they did. The second point is, since God wants freedom for us, while at the same time He wants to remain in control, God actually causes the things that we think we freely do and write, to often happen according to our wishes... and without us even realizing that He is behind it all... until we examine the way things work, scientifically. So HE decided to 'inspire' 40+ writers over the course of 2500 years!!! Please, you do not really believe that!!! Talk about lazy and unsure God. The real reason this book was written was to provide some guidance on how to manage social interactions. Around the time when the agricultural revolution started, first cities were formed as people did not have to wonder around for food. Agricultural revolution allowed for the fast expansion of the population. This created problems. It is very easy to manage a group of 40-50 hunters & gatherers. But it is nearly impossible to manage a group of 5000+ people. So myths and 'God laws' had to be written down so that the ruling class could reference them and implement the laws by killing the violators. This helped to reduce crime. That is the real reason why this book was written, by people for other people. First you express that God doesn't exist. Then you suggest that I don't really believe that He did something He did. Then you suggest that He is lazy and unsure when you know that He created the universe to operate by cause and effect, which is way beyond anything we can even imagine doing. Then you seem to suggest that He wasn't behind the writing of the Bible at all. The thing that is amazing is that you, somebody who doesn't seem sure about the existence of God or not, haven't gone out and expressed your own personal volumes of knowledge about the workings of nature and everything else. I mean, a funny farm resident might do just that. And you can see by the humble videos of Graham Hancock and others, that archaeology shows us that there really were no hunter gatherers thousands of years ago that were any different than ours today in various parts of the world. In addition, there were great technologies in the prehistory, just like there are today, as shown by these same videos. Consider Gobekli Tepe. Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime. Göbekli Tepe is from 10th millennium BCE, way outside 'your creation date' of circa 4000 BCE. You were there back then? You know somebody who was there back then? When you look into the papers and books from many of the scientists who date things, they express that their dating is just a guestimation, and that they really don't know.
Graham Hancock is a writer. So you like his novels; I'm not surprised. Not sure what this has anything to do with reality.
The Graham Hancock videos show that standard archaeology is way off in their idea that ancient peoples were simple hunter gatherers. The standard hunter-gatherer stuff is made up, just to cover up the idea that people of prehistory were far greater than we think, and even than we ARE. It is also made up to downplay the knowledge that God exists. There is enough accurate history in the Bible. |
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Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime. And there you go again BADecker, choosing to belittle those of us who challenge you. Tell me, what is wrong if people do have a mental illness and require therapeutic interventions for help? Are you so perfect that you feel the need to highlight their "failings" in your eyes? The problem that you have is that you are so self indulgent that you believe the bullshit which you write. That is not a problem for the rest of us, but when questioned you become aggressive and insulting. Yes I do question you for I seek knowledge. Is there a problem with this? I spend my days working with people with Disabilities and Mental Health issues, yet you, by your comments above choose to believe that they are lower than you and condemn them. Personally, I would rather spend my days working with these people than an afternoon with you. You BADecker, are not a very nice person and I hope you wake up and see the person you are before it is too late. What? Here you go again, belittling me when all I was doing was agreeing to what you express about yourself. I don't have anything against you at all. But when are you going to wake up to the reality of the truth that God esixts? |
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So please, put away your flat, 6000 years old Earth, the Great Flood and that 'a man created from dirt, a woman from a rib bone' nonsense to rest.
Since there is nothing but theory that contradicts the Bible record, and since theory is not known to be fact, go with the Bible record rather than the unknown. Appealing to biblical authority with people who don't accept the bible as authoritative is pretty silly. It's the worst sort of pointless circular logic. The problem with this is that it is actually known 90% of the stuff in the Bible is plainly untrue, it is not methaporicaly said, it is not an allegory It's just stuff that isn't true The whole Old Testament was written prior to 2400 years ago. The fact of the age of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are from about 400 B.C., shows that the O.T. is similar today, to what it was back then. Using scientific extrapolation, odds are that the O.T. is similar all the way back to the times that each book was written. Yet, there is a symmetry in the whole thing that makes it look like it was written at the same time, even though it was written over hundreds of years. The point is, for this to have happened, means that there was a Guide to making it happen - God. In addition, The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately shows that it was real enough so that they understood the importance of it. The Bible is true. If it weren't, it would have perished long ago, and if we had any copies at all, they would be museum pieces. Rather, because of the greatness of the Bible, the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it. God has made them great because they respected Him enough to hold His Word important and sacred in their hearts. "The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately" wrong, simply because it's very hard to really accurately translate and copy a certain book or text through more than 1000 years, so who knows what has changed and what the original bible chapters looked like. and why is the bible as a book so great? is it maybe because christianity is the biggest religion in the world and there's influence of it on every continent? and before you ask, christianity wasn't spread around that peacefully, specially on Nordic peninsula and Americas and Africa which was colonised. "the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it." Name one. Again, outside of the shape of the letters of the alphabet, the Hebrew Isaiah at the time of the printing press is essentially the same as that in the Dead Sea Scrolls from 2,000 years earlier. The minor changes don't change the meaning in any way. Check it out. Btw, the reason most of the people came to North America back when the United States was formed, was for religious freedom, to get away from religious persecution in Europe. And the religion was Christianity. |
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So please, put away your flat, 6000 years old Earth, the Great Flood and that 'a man created from dirt, a woman from a rib bone' nonsense to rest.
Since there is nothing but theory that contradicts the Bible record, and since theory is not known to be fact, go with the Bible record rather than the unknown. Appealing to biblical authority with people who don't accept the bible as authoritative is pretty silly. It's the worst sort of pointless circular logic. The problem with this is that it is actually known 90% of the stuff in the Bible is plainly untrue, it is not methaporicaly said, it is not an allegory It's just stuff that isn't true The whole Old Testament was written prior to 2400 years ago. The fact of the age of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are from about 400 B.C., shows that the O.T. is similar today, to what it was back then. Using scientific extrapolation, odds are that the O.T. is similar all the way back to the times that each book was written. Yet, there is a symmetry in the whole thing that makes it look like it was written at the same time, even though it was written over hundreds of years. The point is, for this to have happened, means that there was a Guide to making it happen - God. In addition, The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately shows that it was real enough so that they understood the importance of it. The Bible is true. If it weren't, it would have perished long ago, and if we had any copies at all, they would be museum pieces. Rather, because of the greatness of the Bible, the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it. God has made them great because they respected Him enough to hold His Word important and sacred in their hearts. Sorry I disagree, the Bible has changed. The wording has changed. Just like a good fashion outfit it changes with the season and fashions of the time. If it were true and correct this would not have happened. The changes in the O.T. are so minor that they change the meaning of nothing. Dead Sea Scrolls attest to this. N.T. changes do not exist since about 350 A.D. The few fragments that we have found from the 1st century A.D. show that nothing has changed. Of course, simply stating it here means nothing more than to give us a starting point if we are really interested in doing research. |
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I've heard it said "the grass is always greener on the other side". I would omit the word "always" since this is not necessarily true for each individual case.
But, it would be fun anyway, just for taking a look at other parts of the world. Wanna meet in Belize? |
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The right to bear Arms is the right of everyone but not everyone should be entitled to bear arms. Background checks should be mandatory for anyone who wishes to acquire a firearm and laws should be put in place that stipulates that should your firearm be used in any criminal activity irrespective of your knowledge, The person should be held culpable.
For a while I was in favor of 'reasonable' measures such as gun owners carrying a bond. After all, it is not in my interest for dirtbags to be armed either. Over the last half-decade or so it has become abundantly clear that the Leftists in particular don't give two shits about gun violence and public safety and 'saving the kids' and what-not. Nope, this is about monopolization of force in the hands of the government. Period. Sure, many of the progressive drones are indoctrinated and actually do believe the propaganda, but that doesn't make it valid. At the end of the day, gun circulation is not really all that big of a problem in the first place, and any realistic programs to 'solve' what problems do exist will simply result in fewer armed good guys and a lot more violence. I've mentioned it before here, but back in the day when thinking people in the government really did want to address what problems did exist, they implemented a workable solution which worked well. That is, punish the shit out of criminals who used firearms in the commission of a crime. If it works, don't fix it. I went from being 'reasonable' to not wanting to hear another word from these slime. Not even such things as high capacity magazine limitations. It's just the camel trying to get more of it's nose in the tent door and is not worth the risk. The best way to teach these fuckers a lesson about why it's counterproductive to be a sneaky and disingenuous fuck in the U.S. is by rolling back a bunch of the bullshit that is already achieved. e.g., 'gun free zones' and such. FWIW, we now see exactly why the big push to castrate the public in a manner which is the direct opposition to what the founders wrote into the 2nd. As I tap this out we've got a bunch of treasonous globalist scum brainstorming about how they could possibly avoid having the person we voted for take power. The fact that we are a heavily armed population is throwing a serious monkey-wrench into the gears of some of the otherwise possible mechanisms they might be able to use. Exactly as the founding fathers planned. If you and I never agreed about anything else, we agree here. This is why the message of Karl Lentz is so important: 1. The 9th Amendment says we have all the rights we did before Government came around; 2. The 6th and 7th Amendments say that we can have a jury trial in anything; 3. Government is paperwork - can't do anything; if Government harms us, it is people doing it; people can be sued man to man for any harm they have done to us, even if they are government people, but they have to be sued as people; 4. Federal district courts are courts of record in common law, this means the judge is separate from the court operation... an operation which includes a claimant, a wrongdoer, the jury... called a tribunal; 5. If you are represented by an attorney or anybody (even yourself), you have given up your rights as a man/woman. 6. Without these 4 things, there can be no court, and these things have to be attested to under oath or affirmation from the stand: a. An accuser; b. One being accused; c. Injury that is evident injury to some man or woman; d. Witness and evidence that proves the one being accused did it. Just some of the stuff that has been in the law all along. And people rarely use it. |
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So please, put away your flat, 6000 years old Earth, the Great Flood and that 'a man created from dirt, a woman from a rib bone' nonsense to rest.
Since there is nothing but theory that contradicts the Bible record, and since theory is not known to be fact, go with the Bible record rather than the unknown. Appealing to biblical authority with people who don't accept the bible as authoritative is pretty silly. It's the worst sort of pointless circular logic. The problem with this is that it is actually known 90% of the stuff in the Bible is plainly untrue, it is not methaporicaly said, it is not an allegory It's just stuff that isn't true The whole Old Testament was written prior to 2400 years ago. The fact of the age of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are from about 400 B.C., shows that the O.T. is similar today, to what it was back then. Using scientific extrapolation, odds are that the O.T. is similar all the way back to the times that each book was written. Yet, there is a symmetry in the whole thing that makes it look like it was written at the same time, even though it was written over hundreds of years. The point is, for this to have happened, means that there was a Guide to making it happen - God. In addition, The people who wrote it and copied it so accurately shows that it was real enough so that they understood the importance of it. The Bible is true. If it weren't, it would have perished long ago, and if we had any copies at all, they would be museum pieces. Rather, because of the greatness of the Bible, the greatest nations on earth have become great through following it. God has made them great because they respected Him enough to hold His Word important and sacred in their hearts. |
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.... The point is, God wrote His own Book by causing the writers who actually penned it to write what they did. The second point is, since God wants freedom for us, while at the same time He wants to remain in control, God actually causes the things that we think we freely do and write, to often happen according to our wishes... and without us even realizing that He is behind it all... until we examine the way things work, scientifically. So HE decided to 'inspire' 40+ writers over the course of 2500 years!!! Please, you do not really believe that!!! Talk about lazy and unsure God. The real reason this book was written was to provide some guidance on how to manage social interactions. Around the time when the agricultural revolution started, first cities were formed as people did not have to wonder around for food. Agricultural revolution allowed for the fast expansion of the population. This created problems. It is very easy to manage a group of 40-50 hunters & gatherers. But it is nearly impossible to manage a group of 5000+ people. So myths and 'God laws' had to be written down so that the ruling class could reference them and implement the laws by killing the violators. This helped to reduce crime. That is the real reason why this book was written, by people for other people. First you express that God doesn't exist. Then you suggest that I don't really believe that He did something He did. Then you suggest that He is lazy and unsure when you know that He created the universe to operate by cause and effect, which is way beyond anything we can even imagine doing. Then you seem to suggest that He wasn't behind the writing of the Bible at all. The thing that is amazing is that you, somebody who doesn't seem sure about the existence of God or not, haven't gone out and expressed your own personal volumes of knowledge about the workings of nature and everything else. I mean, a funny farm resident might do just that. And you can see by the humble videos of Graham Hancock and others, that archaeology shows us that there really were no hunter gatherers thousands of years ago that were any different than ours today in various parts of the world. In addition, there were great technologies in the prehistory, just like there are today, as shown by these same videos. Consider Gobekli Tepe. Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime. |
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What makes [religious] beliefs extremely dangerous, is its ability to override common sense, and then to enforce its own illogicality as non-questionable law on each and every believer, whilst fostering discrimination against all non-believers.
Right on sister. There is danger in believing science theory as truth. It turns the idea of science into a religion, when science should only be the gathering of knowledge. Then all those science theory religion believers discriminate against believers of other religions, because they are non-believers to them. Religion is based on Arts (literature). Religion exists because people have a natural knowledge of God in their hearts, because nobody knows the future, and because people are trying to find out more about God and their future.
Science is based on Mathematics (statistics, calculus, algebra, probability, geometry etc.).
These things you list do not exist naturally. They are language(s) created by people, that people use to attempt to bring the fantastically complex things of the universe, down to a simplicity where we can understand them. Because they are not complete, and because they do not show everything, they are limited, and often wrong.
Scientific theories are developed using Math. They are validated (or invalidated) in the lab. There is no faith involved.
Faith is involved until theories have been tested out enough so that they can be proven factual or not factual. The theories that are not factual are dropped as theories. So are the theories that can never be proven one way or the other. This last point is why Big Bang Theory should have been dropped as from the list of theories long ago. It can never be proven one way or another, even if its model can be proven possible. Religious dogma was developed by people to control other people. In the case of the religion of believing science theory to be fact, and in the case of the atheism religion, you are right.
I urge you to learn more about science before you speak about it.
LOL. Are you this ignorant about science theory? Or are you simply trolling?
New scientific theories are being developed as we speak.
And this is good. The thing that is bad is turning them into religions by believing that they are factual before they have been proven to be factual.
If your belief system is based on the fact that something is mysterious and unknown therefore it must be God, get ready for this belief system to be shaken to its core.
If you think God is behind the Big Bang, be prepared to move your God concept further into unknown.
Earth is spinning on its axis, it goes around the Sun, Solar system is a vortex and it moves through space, our galaxy is moving away from other galaxies, the whole universe is
expanding at ever increasing rate, it is being pushed away by Dark Energy. All of that has been observed and confirmed.
That these things have been observed is factual. The explanations of what they are is only theory. Close to 100% of this is explained only in theoretical form. You can hope the theory is fact, but you don't know it is fact. So, stop proclaiming that your religious belief about this stuff is reality.
So please, put away your flat, 6000 years old Earth, the Great Flood and that 'a man created from dirt, a woman from a rib bone' nonsense to rest.
Since there is nothing but theory that contradicts the Bible record, and since theory is not known to be fact, go with the Bible record rather than the unknown. |
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FACT: I am. I was also planning on moving if Hillary became president, because fuck this.
You do not have the liberty to emigrate. As an American you can only become an expat. You'll have to pay taxes to the IRS regardless of where you live. Your children (if any) have to pay too. Refusing to do so will get you in deep shit. p.s. throw away account ) Wrong. Form a tax-free church under IRS Code 26 508(c)(1)(A), and donate all your earnings to "your" church. The IRS doesn't even look at a 508(c)(1)(A) church if you do it right. See http://www.theultimateinassetprotection.com/?ref=SWC and particularly http://www.theultimateinassetprotection.com/taxlaw/. |
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