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2621  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Will it working? on: November 15, 2016, 10:11:18 AM
Do you have such bot?

I don`t trust auto trading bots.I`ve never found a bot that really works.

I think that there is a transaction fee for every trade,so the profit will be smaller.

Because you don't trust them, no one should use them?
There are bots that work and make huge money still, but nobody will actually tell you the way they work.
You need to have a check on them and what they are trading, prices, difference, etc.
And about transaction fee, you are going to get it charged even if you go manual, so what's so different there?
2622  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Want to buy and then sell $30k in BTC on: November 15, 2016, 10:06:15 AM
Guys, thank you for the replies.
And can someone recommend me a company from the European Union which buys BTC and I can pay by bank transfer?Huh??
Again, buying btc and then sell them for cash can help you transfer money from one country to another avoiding smuggling. Also coins shuffeling would protect you anonymous.
Thanks!

Regards,

Gondel

I think Kraken is the best option for your needs as it has option for trading with euros using which you can have your coins be bought and sold in your currency itself (if you belong there). Coins shuffeling is not a problem unless you leave any evidence about any address you used.
2623  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What would be your recommendations when trading crypto? on: November 15, 2016, 10:03:07 AM
The most effective coins are those which have tremendous developers involved, so the first thing to look for is that only.
Next, you need to know about the roadmap and follow them and have faith in them, but important here is that, devs should deliver or coin will be nowhere but will remain on the ground only.
2624  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: November 15, 2016, 10:01:12 AM
Nah. Trading is not 'unpredictable job' you can still predict a move or pattern of a coin by reading some news about that crypto-currency example, Bitcoin will be accepted as a secondary currency in US (Example only) then you can conclude that bitcoin price will be high because of the incoming demand of the US people, So the move that you will do is to buy or save more bitcoins and wait for that event to launch and you can earn good profits Grin. That is only my opinion Roll Eyes.

Every time, a news that is shown is not what it is behind the scenes, so it won't affect the coin in a positive but rather in a negative way.
Trading is an unpredictable job because mostly, markets tend to go against you and you are helpless, what can you do instead of closing your bet for loss or waiting and seeing swaps being carried over your balance in negatives?
2625  Economy / Speculation / Re: So USA seems to have picked Donald Trump. Help or hurt btc prices. on: November 10, 2016, 02:26:57 PM
I don't see a huff-n-puff in the price of Bitcoins and don't expect the same because it's the nation's politics which as nothing to do with bitcoins and it's values. All I see as a reason behind the price following up is its demand that is increasing daily, and it might only affect the price of bitcoins if Trump himself takes some interest into it and allows free trading of it in US.
2626  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Want to buy and then sell $30k in BTC on: November 10, 2016, 02:02:56 PM
When you are talking cash, that means you are trying to hide everything so there definitely won't be a need of tax.
But when he wants to buy, he might use some of his family members' and friends' bank accounts and divide the money and then buy the coins, that way he would be able to save tax somehow.
2627  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: November 10, 2016, 02:01:13 PM
In real life, I never had a need arose to buy bitcoins because whenever I gambled, I managed to get the most out of my bets and got lots of coins to spend, so didn't need my real money to put into Bitcoins, but I am currently holding my coins and supporting it by doing that as that way, I am not dumping.
2628  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: November 10, 2016, 01:59:15 PM
it's a good way to growing our money, holding bitcoin is part of my life Smiley
but trade it with profit is better than holding bitcoin.

Why limiting yourself to doing one thing, when you can do both long term holding and short term trading at the same time? I do exactly that. I have a certain amount of coins in my cold wallets that I will not touch in the coming 5-10 years (I have been holding them since early 2013). This is my long term investment.

Alongside that, I have a certain number of coins combined with a certain amount of fiat that I use to do my trading. That's how I get my profits. It doesn't really matter for me if the price goes down significantly, or goes up significantly. I make profit whilst trading either way. It takes plenty of my time, but it's definitely worth it.
Exactly, why not do both.. having both in your investment plan would minimize the risk in investing. There is no assurance that you can make profit in the future, but with short term investment there's a big possibility that you will make profit as you can monitor the price.

Yeah there is no guarantee that long term holding will give only profits to you, if price drops dramatically then holding will be useless so its always good to take benefits from short term fluctuations to make quick profits and that can be done if we are investing our money in trading bitcoins or altcoins.
Of course, there's no guarantee that is why we are here in investing as the risk is present, with what I see with bitcoin, I believe it's profitable investment and would be more profitable in the future, so I will definitely invest with the future of bitcoin but not all my money.

We are talking about holding bitcoins for a long time being a better opportunity or not, but not about going all into bitcoins, so let's stay connected with the topic here. Wink
And it is definitely a better way to hold it without the risk of trading it if you have bought it at lower prices, because it will definitely boom up in the future.
2629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Hot Tennis Picks by 2Double0 [ W - 96| L - 63 ] on: November 10, 2016, 01:29:21 PM
Pick 1 (Yet to start)

Lacko v Stakhovsky

My Pick : Lacko 2 - 0 (Set Betting)

ODDS: 2.22


Lacko lost the match and that was terrific how Stakhovsky managed to win both the sets while Lacko trying his best to win the game.


Pick 2 (Live)

Ignatik v Gerasimov

My Pick : Gerasimov 2 - 1 (Set Betting)

ODDS: 4.1


Gerasimov won the match but with 2 - 0, so lost on both the bets for yesterday.
Today's bets:

Pick 1 (Yet to start)

Knowle/Melzer v Raja/Sharan

My Pick : Knowle/Melzer

ODDS: 1.74



Pick 2 (Yet to start)

Albot v De Minaur

My Pick : De Minaur

ODDS: 2.5
2630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online gambling and local laws on: November 09, 2016, 03:09:26 PM
Gambling is illegal in most countries, but the place where I live allows me to do it so I don't have to worry about it.
People who are not aware about gambling on such sites should know that when they convert their coins into Fiat, they actually need to pay taxes on them and hence, need to show where the money came from.
2631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: November 09, 2016, 03:07:03 PM
Let me be honest here. I had been gambling long enough and I have made more than losing, not rich though, but I can say that I am in profit currently.
I think we should play it smooth and with calm mind, because playing it all of a sudden could end up in great loss and will get us nothing.
2632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win? on: November 09, 2016, 03:03:58 PM
i think its difficult to say how often gamblers win because we can not predict when we are win or not and its depend on our luck on the games itself even for pro gamblers, they can not give the right answer because they only playing gambling and win the games so i think i am not sure about this.
Yeah, Agreed that it's difficult to predict how often gamblers win since gambling is a luck based game. But for me, it's still depend on what kind of gambling game you are playing since there are other game that can be based on strategy too but still it needs luck. So yeah there would be no right answer to this. But remember that not all people care if they win or not since some of them just gamble for fun.

There are ways to determine this by classifying your bets and times if you are not lazy.
Seriously, you can do that by taking your profits and losses on one side and dates on the other, and see that which week made you how much profit/loss and you can see and decide that where and how you win or lose.
2633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: U.S Presidential Election || Discussion and odds on: November 09, 2016, 03:00:32 PM
I do not mind the economy of the US or whatever Trump will bring, one thing I am sure is that I am happy that I am on the right side. People think it's an easy bet and clinton would win but it's really true that the only way to make money in gambling is to fade the public.

Yeah most users had the same thinking of profiting as it seems to be a easy betting. More users have lost huge amounts, because most users with cent percent hope placed betting odds on Hilary.

Just think as to what the bookies have lost in this. The odds for Trump were almost 47 times the odds for Hilary, this was a historical moment for the people of US as such a result shook the entire nation.
2634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Going all in on a Hillary win bet on: November 09, 2016, 02:56:05 PM
Exactly like this man who bet with 1 BTC for Trump:

https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1BndLqvSuDZd1Snku6d9RVDmcAHTMrj1yz

Congrats to him.


That's insane. Now that's what I would call a win, a big win on something completely unexpected.
I too made a bet on Lay, I mean against Hilary and I won on 3.8 odds, but it was totally unexpected.
2635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: November 09, 2016, 02:51:14 PM
No, I'm not rich from gambling! because i am not so lucky.
I have a nice history of losses. Then i stopped gambling.

I make some profit with some trades and some work in internet.

Good decision has been made by you because you stopped and you knew that you needed to.
It is hard to stop when gambling becomes so hard on our minds and we can't control ourselves from playing hard.
2636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Hot Tennis Picks by 2Double0 [ W - 96| L - 63 ] on: November 09, 2016, 02:47:43 PM
Pick 2 (Live)

Ignatik v Gerasimov

My Pick : Gerasimov 2 - 1 (Set Betting)

ODDS: 4.1
2637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Hot Tennis Picks by 2Double0 [ W - 96| L - 63 ] on: November 09, 2016, 02:45:34 PM
Pick 1 (Yet to start)

Lacko v Stakhovsky

My Pick : Lacko 2 - 0 (Set Betting)

ODDS: 2.22
2638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: November 09, 2016, 02:12:42 PM
I do gamble for profit but i have a short time of fun doing it, in the general i do believe people does gamble with the purpose to win, wich mean they does risk their bitcoin for profit.

Mostly all of us are gambling for profit and if a person says that he is just gambling for fun then maybe he is already rich and he doesn't want to have profit anymore.

And maybe they are hiding something for telling that they do gamble for fun, because it is humiliating when they are saying that they are gambling for profit.

But upon checking their gambling history, they are on losing streak.

It's not like that, I also gamble for fun but I am not rich and it is never like that I don't want profits or not interested in the same.
But, I take it lightly and do it in a smart way, not like those who get greedy when they loose and try to get back the loss.
I stop when I lose and wait for the next right opportunity.
2639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting On US Elections... on: November 09, 2016, 02:10:47 PM
Had a bet against Hillary as I saw a change coming because Trump was in everybody's talks with his extreme decisions that he announced he will take after becoming President, and he finally won.
2640  Economy / Economics / Re: Is gold better than Bitcoin? on: October 28, 2016, 01:41:30 PM
Bitcoin used to be called Gold in cryptocurrencies, but I think both are different and have their own limitations.
Gold is physical and tangible asset, while Bitcoins are virtual and have less value currently compared to Gold.
Even both have a huge difference between their market cap, so comparing both doesn't make sense IMO.
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